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  #16  
Old July 30th 18, 02:33 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Fokke Nauta[_4_]
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USB both working ok.


Yes.

Both audio channels completely dead?


The headphone output is. Can't check the microphone input as I have no
microphone (or another sound device) with a 3.5 mm output jack.


The headphone is 35 ohms. Perhaps I can use it as a microphone, to see
what the mic input does.


Tried the headphone at the mic input at the rear. Can't even find the
mic channel somewhere in my system. No signal. The same when I plugged
it into the front panel mic input.
I can find the rear line input though.
But the Realtek HD audio driver shows a window where I can see whatever
is being put into the sound connectors. It shows when I put in an audio
out, line in or mic in 3.5 mm plug into the rear connectors. When I put
a plug in one of the front panel connecors, nothing is to be seen.

This is way too complicated ...




Or recognised by Realtek?


How can I check that?

Neither microphone nor headset work?


As I said, can't check the input.
The head set output is dead, I don't hear even a click when I put its
plug in. The head phone itself is OK.

Are you trying it with major speakers when it can only handle
low-powered things?


It has the head phone symbol next to the output. So I assume a regular
head phone should work. But I can measure its impedance.


Ed


Fokke



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  #17  
Old July 30th 18, 02:35 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default No audio output on the front panel

Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 30/07/2018 14:18, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 30/07/2018 14:09, Ed Cryer wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 30/07/2018 13:31, Ed Cryer wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote:
Hi all,

This has got nothing to do with Windows 10, but perhaps you may make
me think into the right direction.
This is the case:

Recently purchased a front panel audio connection bay 3,5". The make
is Delock. There are two USB 3.0 connectors and a HD Audio in- and
headphone output. There are no electronic devices in this thing, it
has connectors and cables only. USB cables are connected to USB 3.0
connectors (20-1 pin) on the motherboard, works fine. The audio cable
ia connected to the front panel audio connector (AAFP, 10-1 pins) on
the motherboard.

Motherboard is Asus Prime H270 Pro. System is W10 Pro 64b.
Audio chip is RealTEK ALC 887, default audio output is Realtek High
Definition Audio (on the motherboard). In the BIOS the audio chip is
enabled.
Driver is correctly installed, when playing a music file there is an
audio signal at the rear audio output on the motherboard. But
there is
no signal at the audio output of the front panel.
In the Realtek Audio Manager these are ticked: Make front and rear
output devices playback different audio streams simultaneously. And:
HD Audio front panel. This is what the front panel is, no AC97.

So I think there should be a signal on the front panel output, but
there isn't. As the frontpanel contains no electronic devices,
chances
are zero this panel is at fault.
But what can it be? Do you have any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

Fokke Nauta

This is Delock's site;
https://www.delock.com/
Find your device and send us the URL.

Ed

Thanks! I found it:

https://www.delock.com/produkte/674_.../merkmale.html

Fokke

USB both working ok.


Yes.

Both audio channels completely dead?


The headphone output is. Can't check the microphone input as I have no
microphone (or another sound device) with a 3.5 mm output jack.


The headphone is 35 ohms. Perhaps I can use it as a microphone, to see
what the mic input does.


Or recognised by Realtek?


How can I check that?

Neither microphone nor headset work?


As I said, can't check the input.
The head set output is dead, I don't hear even a click when I put its
plug in. The head phone itself is OK.

Are you trying it with major speakers when it can only handle
low-powered things?


It has the head phone symbol next to the output. So I assume a regular
head phone should work. But I can measure its impedance.


Ed


Fokke



If I read it all a-right, you have no proof that either of the two audio
channels is working. And that doesn't rule out the possibility that the
connection with the mobo is faulty.
Added to that, there's no indication from any software (Windows or
otherwise) that the channel is recognised.

Ed

  #18  
Old July 30th 18, 02:36 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Fokke Nauta[_4_]
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Default No audio output on the front panel

On 30/07/2018 15:31, GlowingBlueMist wrote:
On 7/30/2018 5:19 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
Hi all,

This has got nothing to do with Windows 10, but perhaps you may make
me think into the right direction.
This is the case:

Recently purchased a front panel audio connection bay 3,5". The make
is Delock. There are two USB 3.0 connectors and a HD Audio in- and
headphone output. There are no electronic devices in this thing, it
has connectors and cables only. USB cables are connected to USB 3.0
connectors (20-1 pin) on the motherboard, works fine. The audio cable
ia connected to the front panel audio connector (AAFP, 10-1 pins) on
the motherboard.

Motherboard is Asus Prime H270 Pro. System is W10 Pro 64b.
Audio chip is RealTEK ALC 887, default audio output is Realtek High
Definition Audio (on the motherboard). In the BIOS the audio chip is
enabled.
Driver is correctly installed, when playing a music file there is an
audio signal at the rear audio output on the motherboard. But there is
no signal at the audio output of the front panel.
In the Realtek Audio Manager these are ticked: Make front and rear
output devices playback different audio streams simultaneously. And:
HD Audio front panel. This is what the front panel is, no AC97.

So I think there should be a signal on the front panel output, but
there isn't. As the frontpanel contains no electronic devices, chances
are zero this panel is at fault.
But what can it be? Do you have any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

Fokke Nauta


You need to find out which audio standard the audio panel is wired for.
Is it wired for HD-audio-compliant pin definition or is it wired for
Legacy AC'97 Compliant definition?


On the panel it says HD audio.
See the specifications:
https://www.delock.com/produkte/674_.../merkmale.html

So it definitely must be HD audio.

Factory default has the motherboard configured to use the
HD-audio-compliant front panel. I'd suggest going into the motherboard
configuration and change it to the AC'97 standard and see if that gets
things working for you.

As it claims to be HD aaudio, I don't think this would make sense.

Fokke


  #19  
Old July 30th 18, 02:38 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Fokke Nauta[_4_]
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Default No audio output on the front panel

On 30/07/2018 15:35, Ed Cryer wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 30/07/2018 14:18, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 30/07/2018 14:09, Ed Cryer wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 30/07/2018 13:31, Ed Cryer wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote:
Hi all,

This has got nothing to do with Windows 10, but perhaps you may make
me think into the right direction.
This is the case:

Recently purchased a front panel audio connection bay 3,5". The make
is Delock. There are two USB 3.0 connectors and a HD Audio in- and
headphone output. There are no electronic devices in this thing, it
has connectors and cables only. USB cables are connected to USB 3.0
connectors (20-1 pin) on the motherboard, works fine. The audio
cable
ia connected to the front panel audio connector (AAFP, 10-1 pins) on
the motherboard.

Motherboard is Asus Prime H270 Pro. System is W10 Pro 64b.
Audio chip is RealTEK ALC 887, default audio output is Realtek High
Definition Audio (on the motherboard). In the BIOS the audio chip is
enabled.
Driver is correctly installed, when playing a music file there is an
audio signal at the rear audio output on the motherboard. But
there is
no signal at the audio output of the front panel.
In the Realtek Audio Manager these are ticked: Make front and rear
output devices playback different audio streams simultaneously. And:
HD Audio front panel. This is what the front panel is, no AC97.

So I think there should be a signal on the front panel output, but
there isn't. As the frontpanel contains no electronic devices,
chances
are zero this panel is at fault.
But what can it be? Do you have any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

Fokke Nauta

This is Delock's site;
https://www.delock.com/
Find your device and send us the URL.

Ed

Thanks! I found it:

https://www.delock.com/produkte/674_.../merkmale.html

Fokke

USB both working ok.

Yes.

Both audio channels completely dead?

The headphone output is. Can't check the microphone input as I have no
microphone (or another sound device) with a 3.5 mm output jack.


The headphone is 35 ohms. Perhaps I can use it as a microphone, to see
what the mic input does.


Or recognised by Realtek?

How can I check that?

Neither microphone nor headset work?

As I said, can't check the input.
The head set output is dead, I don't hear even a click when I put its
plug in. The head phone itself is OK.

Are you trying it with major speakers when it can only handle
low-powered things?

It has the head phone symbol next to the output. So I assume a regular
head phone should work. But I can measure its impedance.


Ed

Fokke



If I read it all a-right, you have no proof that either of the two audio
channels is working. And that doesn't rule out the possibility that the
connection with the mobo is faulty.
Added to that, there's no indication from any software (Windows or
otherwise) that the channel is recognised.

Ed


  #20  
Old July 30th 18, 02:42 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Fokke Nauta[_4_]
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Default No audio output on the front panel

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My previous post was sent accidentally, without any comment.

If I read it all a-right, you have no proof that either of the two audio
channels is working.


Correct

And that doesn't rule out the possibility that the
connection with the mobo is faulty.


Yes

Added to that, there's no indication from any software (Windows or
otherwise) that the channel is recognised.


That's correct

Ed


So - a faulty front panel?
Basically, I was looking for configuration errors but can't find anything.
And how can a front panel with only connectors and cables be faulty?

I made send it back to the supplyer for further investigation.

Fokke
  #21  
Old July 30th 18, 03:45 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default No audio output on the front panel

On 7/30/2018 6:19 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
Hi all,

This has got nothing to do with Windows 10, but perhaps you may make me
think into the right direction.
This is the case:

Recently purchased a front panel audio connection bay 3,5". The make is
Delock. There are two USB 3.0 connectors and a HD Audio in- and
headphone output. There are no electronic devices in this thing, it has
connectors and cables only. USB cables are connected to USB 3.0
connectors (20-1 pin) on the motherboard, works fine. The audio cable ia
connected to the front panel audio connector (AAFP, 10-1 pins) on the
motherboard.

Motherboard is Asus Prime H270 Pro. System is W10 Pro 64b.
Audio chip is RealTEK ALC 887, default audio output is Realtek High
Definition Audio (on the motherboard). In the BIOS the audio chip is
enabled.
Driver is correctly installed, when playing a music file there is an
audio signal at the rear audio output on the motherboard. But there is
no signal at the audio output of the front panel.
In the Realtek Audio Manager these are ticked: Make front and rear
output devices playback different audio streams simultaneously. And: HD
Audio front panel. This is what the front panel is, no AC97.

So I think there should be a signal on the front panel output, but there
isn't. As the frontpanel contains no electronic devices, chances are
zero this panel is at fault.
But what can it be? Do you have any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

Fokke Nauta


Right-click the speaker icon in the lower right corner, select "Sounds",
click on the "Playback" tab and see if there is a down arrow on the
Headphones icon. If so, right-click it and select "Enable".

Ben
  #22  
Old July 30th 18, 04:03 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Fokke Nauta[_4_]
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Default No audio output on the front panel

On 30/07/2018 16:45, Ben Myers wrote:
On 7/30/2018 6:19 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
Hi all,

This has got nothing to do with Windows 10, but perhaps you may make
me think into the right direction.
This is the case:

Recently purchased a front panel audio connection bay 3,5". The make
is Delock. There are two USB 3.0 connectors and a HD Audio in- and
headphone output. There are no electronic devices in this thing, it
has connectors and cables only. USB cables are connected to USB 3.0
connectors (20-1 pin) on the motherboard, works fine. The audio cable
ia connected to the front panel audio connector (AAFP, 10-1 pins) on
the motherboard.

Motherboard is Asus Prime H270 Pro. System is W10 Pro 64b.
Audio chip is RealTEK ALC 887, default audio output is Realtek High
Definition Audio (on the motherboard). In the BIOS the audio chip is
enabled.
Driver is correctly installed, when playing a music file there is an
audio signal at the rear audio output on the motherboard. But there is
no signal at the audio output of the front panel.
In the Realtek Audio Manager these are ticked: Make front and rear
output devices playback different audio streams simultaneously. And:
HD Audio front panel. This is what the front panel is, no AC97.

So I think there should be a signal on the front panel output, but
there isn't. As the frontpanel contains no electronic devices, chances
are zero this panel is at fault.
But what can it be? Do you have any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

Fokke Nauta


Right-click the speaker icon in the lower right corner, select "Sounds",
click on the "Playback" tab and see if there is a down arrow on the
Headphones icon. If so, right-click it and select "Enable".

Ben


Thanks

But there is no headphone icon. Next to the motherboards sound chip, I
have two soundcards, under which one with multichannel facilities.
Concerning outputs, there are three speaker icons. The Realtek High
Definition Audio is the default playback one. In addition there are
digital outputs and multichannel outputs, but no headphone icon.

Fokke
  #23  
Old July 30th 18, 04:15 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default No audio output on the front panel

Big Al wrote:
On 07/30/2018 07:31 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote:
Hi all,

This has got nothing to do with Windows 10, but perhaps you may make
me think into the right direction.
This is the case:

Recently purchased a front panel audio connection bay 3,5". The make
is Delock. There are two USB 3.0 connectors and a HD Audio in- and
headphone output. There are no electronic devices in this thing, it
has connectors and cables only. USB cables are connected to USB 3.0
connectors (20-1 pin) on the motherboard, works fine. The audio cable
ia connected to the front panel audio connector (AAFP, 10-1 pins) on
the motherboard.

Motherboard is Asus Prime H270 Pro. System is W10 Pro 64b.
Audio chip is RealTEK ALC 887, default audio output is Realtek High
Definition Audio (on the motherboard). In the BIOS the audio chip is
enabled.
Driver is correctly installed, when playing a music file there is an
audio signal at the rear audio output on the motherboard. But there
is no signal at the audio output of the front panel.
In the Realtek Audio Manager these are ticked: Make front and rear
output devices playback different audio streams simultaneously. And:
HD Audio front panel. This is what the front panel is, no AC97.

So I think there should be a signal on the front panel output, but
there isn't. As the frontpanel contains no electronic devices,
chances are zero this panel is at fault.
But what can it be? Do you have any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

Fokke Nauta


This is Delock's site;
https://www.delock.com/
Find your device and send us the URL.

Ed

What does the panel have to do with this. Since it's just an extension
of jacks on the motherboard, isn't this an issue with how to connect to
the motherboard and or use of the OS to manipulate the hardware on the
motherboard?


Not so simple.

http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi...ptember.org%3E

On the Delock cable, the HDAUDIO-labeled end plugs into the motherboard,
the other end into the tray. That's how the other Delock
picture shows it.

https://s33.postimg.cc/lp7shy9hr/delock_cabling.gif

Notice, on the motherboard end, that AGND is tied to PRESENCE#. Delock is
making a point of claiming HDAudio sensing, by doing that. Nobody
has to use PRESENCE# if they don't want to.

Traditional AC'97 Modified AC'97 HDAudio
----------------- (for dual mode) (dual mode or otherwise)

MIC2 AGND MIC2 AGND Port1_L AGND
MICBIAS +5VA MICBIAS ??? Port1_R PRESENCE#
FPOUT_R RET_R FPOUT_R --- Port2_R SENSE1_RETURN
HP_ON ??? Sense_Send
FPOUT_L RET_L FPOUT_R --- Port2_L SENSE2_RETURN

(When not used, had (No jumpers needed (Port names reflect the retaskable
two jumper plugs, to on header. No return nature of the jacks. PRESENCE#
join FPOUT to RET. signals are needed. signal is grounded, if a real
HP_ON and +5VA were Power removed for HDAudio cable assembly is being
for an optional non-existent headphone connected.)
headphone amplifier.) amplifier. Only five (Port1=stereo microphone
wires should really be Port2=32ohm headphones
connected, for fault AGND connects to both jacks.)
free performance! Leave
the return wires dangling.)

The Delock has too many wires into the "2x5 minus 1" for
it to be a five wire, "sense free" HDAUDIO. It's probably
using the resistor sense scheme.

https://s33.postimg.cc/wosztmcsf/HDAudio_sensing.gif

At a minimum, a motherboard that claims to have an
HDAudio header, should be supporting the sense resistor
scheme.

Historically, most trays did not have the side-contact
switch closure feature. This prevented sensing from
working. None of my Antecs have it.

In this case, the *user* must configure the sound
control panel for FP_Audio Headphones

On an Analog Devices codec, those have impedance sensing.
They don't need the side contacts to work. A cheaper
tip/ring/sleeve 1/8" connector can be used on the tray.
The codec injects a 25KHz tone into the jack, and does
AC current sensing to detect the presence of a load.
Even a 10K ohm input stereo can be detected this way.
I've tested this, and the duration of the 25KHz signal
is way too long.

On a RealTek code, around page 150 of the spec, they
will admit they don't have impedance sensing (they hide
the admission that far back, in the hope nobody will notice).
This is not reported prominently in a feature list somewhere.
Analog Devices probably has a patent on their technique,
and of course, no competitor wants to buy a license.

Two recommendations:

1) Use the *RealTek* software, not the Win10 generic driver.
This gives a kooky RealTek control panel. It will
give better control of the hardware. And note that the
software package doesn't do a good job of "exposing"
the control panel. *You* have to figure out the
name of the proper executable file. Good luck Obiwan! :-)

2) Plug headphones into the tray. Perhaps there
is no reaction from the *RealTek* software.
Don't panic. Force it to put audio on Port1,
using the provided RealTek GUI.

Aren't computers fun ?

If I had a dime for every computer industry booboo
like this, the stack of dimes would crush my
computer table.

HTH,
Paul
  #24  
Old July 30th 18, 05:51 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default No audio output on the front panel

Fokke Nauta wrote:
cut

My previous post was sent accidentally, without any comment.

If I read it all a-right, you have no proof that either of the two audio
channels is working.


Correct

And that doesn't rule out the possibility that the
connection with the mobo is faulty.


Yes

Added to that, there's no indication from any software (Windows or
otherwise) that the channel is recognised.


That's correct

Ed


So - a faulty front panel?
Basically, I was looking for configuration errors but can't find anything.
And how can a front panel with only connectors and cables be faulty?

I made send it back to the supplyer for further investigation.

Fokke


Here's a good image of your mobo;
https://ru.gecid.com/data/mboard/201...e_h270-pro.jpg

I have a suggestion, but I don't know whether it's stupid, infeasible or
suitably pragmatic.
If you could plug your new front panel audio into the audio that's
proven working, that might be a test for whether the thing is faulty or not.

Ed

  #26  
Old July 30th 18, 07:50 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default No audio output on the front panel

On 7/30/2018 8:36 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 30/07/2018 15:31, GlowingBlueMist wrote:
On 7/30/2018 5:19 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
Hi all,

This has got nothing to do with Windows 10, but perhaps you may make
me think into the right direction.
This is the case:

Recently purchased a front panel audio connection bay 3,5". The make
is Delock. There are two USB 3.0 connectors and a HD Audio in- and
headphone output. There are no electronic devices in this thing, it
has connectors and cables only. USB cables are connected to USB 3.0
connectors (20-1 pin) on the motherboard, works fine. The audio cable
ia connected to the front panel audio connector (AAFP, 10-1 pins) on
the motherboard.

Motherboard is Asus Prime H270 Pro. System is W10 Pro 64b.
Audio chip is RealTEK ALC 887, default audio output is Realtek High
Definition Audio (on the motherboard). In the BIOS the audio chip is
enabled.
Driver is correctly installed, when playing a music file there is an
audio signal at the rear audio output on the motherboard. But there is
no signal at the audio output of the front panel.
In the Realtek Audio Manager these are ticked: Make front and rear
output devices playback different audio streams simultaneously. And:
HD Audio front panel. This is what the front panel is, no AC97.

So I think there should be a signal on the front panel output, but
there isn't. As the frontpanel contains no electronic devices, chances
are zero this panel is at fault.
But what can it be? Do you have any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

Fokke Nauta


You need to find out which audio standard the audio panel is wired for.
Is it wired for HD-audio-compliant pin definition or is it wired for
Legacy AC'97 Compliant definition?


On the panel it says HD audio.
See the specifications:
https://www.delock.com/produkte/674_.../merkmale.html

So it definitely must be HD audio.

Factory default has the motherboard configured to use the
HD-audio-compliant front panel.Â* I'd suggest going into the motherboard
configuration and change it to the AC'97 standard and see if that gets
things working for you.

As it claims to be HD aaudio, I don't think this would make sense.

Fokke


Since when does anything PC related need to make sense. When two
different companies make the parts anything is possible. I'm just
suggesting trying the opposite setting of what ever the motherboard is
currently set at. If it does not fix things just put it back and boot
again.
  #27  
Old July 30th 18, 08:04 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul in Houston TX[_2_]
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Default No audio output on the front panel

Fokke Nauta wrote:
Hi all,

This has got nothing to do with Windows 10, but perhaps you may make me think into the
right direction.
This is the case:

Recently purchased a front panel audio connection bay 3,5". The make is Delock. There are
two USB 3.0 connectors and a HD Audio in- and headphone output. There are no electronic
devices in this thing, it has connectors and cables only. USB cables are connected to USB
3.0 connectors (20-1 pin) on the motherboard, works fine. The audio cable ia connected to
the front panel audio connector (AAFP, 10-1 pins) on the motherboard.

Motherboard is Asus Prime H270 Pro. System is W10 Pro 64b.
Audio chip is RealTEK ALC 887, default audio output is Realtek High Definition Audio (on
the motherboard). In the BIOS the audio chip is enabled.
Driver is correctly installed, when playing a music file there is an audio signal at the
rear audio output on the motherboard. But there is no signal at the audio output of the
front panel.
In the Realtek Audio Manager these are ticked: Make front and rear output devices playback
different audio streams simultaneously. And: HD Audio front panel. This is what the front
panel is, no AC97.

So I think there should be a signal on the front panel output, but there isn't. As the
frontpanel contains no electronic devices, chances are zero this panel is at fault.
But what can it be? Do you have any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

Fokke Nauta


My thoughts:
Being hardware oriented, I would verify the add on hardware first then work
with the MB settings afterward.
Are the pinouts correct?
Is there continuity on all the wires between the plug that goes on the MB and the
audio jack?

  #28  
Old July 30th 18, 08:33 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Fokke Nauta[_4_]
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Default No audio output on the front panel

On 30/07/2018 21:04, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote:
Hi all,

This has got nothing to do with Windows 10, but perhaps you may make
me think into the
right direction.
This is the case:

Recently purchased a front panel audio connection bay 3,5". The make
is Delock. There are
two USB 3.0 connectors and a HD Audio in- and headphone output. There
are no electronic
devices in this thing, it has connectors and cables only. USB cables
are connected to USB
3.0 connectors (20-1 pin) on the motherboard, works fine. The audio
cable ia connected to
the front panel audio connector (AAFP, 10-1 pins) on the motherboard.

Motherboard is Asus Prime H270 Pro. System is W10 Pro 64b.
Audio chip is RealTEK ALC 887, default audio output is Realtek High
Definition Audio (on
the motherboard). In the BIOS the audio chip is enabled.
Driver is correctly installed, when playing a music file there is an
audio signal at the
rear audio output on the motherboard. But there is no signal at the
audio output of the
front panel.
In the Realtek Audio Manager these are ticked: Make front and rear
output devices playback
different audio streams simultaneously. And: HD Audio front panel.
This is what the front
panel is, no AC97.

So I think there should be a signal on the front panel output, but
there isn't. As the
frontpanel contains no electronic devices, chances are zero this panel
is at fault.
But what can it be? Do you have any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

Fokke Nauta


My thoughts:
Being hardware oriented, I would verify the add on hardware first then work
with the MB settings afterward.


I'm from the hardware section as well. My thoughts as well.

Are the pinouts correct?


Don't know. I guess so.

Is there continuity on all the wires between the plug that goes on the
MB and the
audio jack?


Did not check that.
But in case and the mic input doesn't work, and the headphone output
doesn't work, the chance two wires are defect is too small. Or perhaps a
common wire?

I could also order a new one and see if that works.

Fokke
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Old July 30th 18, 08:39 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default No audio output on the front panel

On 30/07/2018 18:03, Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-07-30 11:03, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 30/07/2018 16:45, Ben Myers wrote:
On 7/30/2018 6:19 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
Hi all,

This has got nothing to do with Windows 10, but perhaps you may make
me think into the right direction.
This is the case:

Recently purchased a front panel audio connection bay 3,5". The make
is Delock. There are two USB 3.0 connectors and a HD Audio in- and
headphone output. There are no electronic devices in this thing, it
has connectors and cables only. USB cables are connected to USB 3.0
connectors (20-1 pin) on the motherboard, works fine. The audio cable
ia connected to the front panel audio connector (AAFP, 10-1 pins) on
the motherboard.

Motherboard is Asus Prime H270 Pro. System is W10 Pro 64b.
Audio chip is RealTEK ALC 887, default audio output is Realtek High
Definition Audio (on the motherboard). In the BIOS the audio chip is
enabled.
Driver is correctly installed, when playing a music file there is an
audio signal at the rear audio output on the motherboard. But there is
no signal at the audio output of the front panel.
In the Realtek Audio Manager these are ticked: Make front and rear
output devices playback different audio streams simultaneously. And:
HD Audio front panel. This is what the front panel is, no AC97.

So I think there should be a signal on the front panel output, but
there isn't. As the frontpanel contains no electronic devices, chances
are zero this panel is at fault.
But what can it be? Do you have any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

Fokke Nauta

Right-click the speaker icon in the lower right corner, select "Sounds",
click on the "Playback" tab and see if there is a down arrow on the
Headphones icon. If so, right-click it and select "Enable".

Ben


Thanks

But there is no headphone icon. Next to the motherboards sound chip, I
have two soundcards, under which one with multichannel facilities.
Concerning outputs, there are three speaker icons. The Realtek High
Definition Audio is the default playback one. In addition there are
digital outputs and multichannel outputs, but no headphone icon.

Fokke


The headphones are included in the speaker. On this system, the icon is
a speaker, the label is "Speakers/Headhones".


No, not here.

I have a Speakers device, ASUS Xonar DG Audio Device, ready. No
headphones. It's a sound card.
There is a Speakers device, Realtek High Definition Audio Device,
default device. This is the mobo audio chip. No headphones.
There is a Speakers device, ESI 1010 Audio, ready. It's a second sound
card, multichannel. No headphones.

Am I missing something?

Fokke



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Old July 30th 18, 08:40 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Fokke Nauta[_4_]
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Default No audio output on the front panel

On 30/07/2018 20:50, GlowingBlueMist wrote:
On 7/30/2018 8:36 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 30/07/2018 15:31, GlowingBlueMist wrote:
On 7/30/2018 5:19 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
Hi all,

This has got nothing to do with Windows 10, but perhaps you may make
me think into the right direction.
This is the case:

Recently purchased a front panel audio connection bay 3,5". The make
is Delock. There are two USB 3.0 connectors and a HD Audio in- and
headphone output. There are no electronic devices in this thing, it
has connectors and cables only. USB cables are connected to USB 3.0
connectors (20-1 pin) on the motherboard, works fine. The audio cable
ia connected to the front panel audio connector (AAFP, 10-1 pins) on
the motherboard.

Motherboard is Asus Prime H270 Pro. System is W10 Pro 64b.
Audio chip is RealTEK ALC 887, default audio output is Realtek High
Definition Audio (on the motherboard). In the BIOS the audio chip is
enabled.
Driver is correctly installed, when playing a music file there is an
audio signal at the rear audio output on the motherboard. But there is
no signal at the audio output of the front panel.
In the Realtek Audio Manager these are ticked: Make front and rear
output devices playback different audio streams simultaneously. And:
HD Audio front panel. This is what the front panel is, no AC97.

So I think there should be a signal on the front panel output, but
there isn't. As the frontpanel contains no electronic devices, chances
are zero this panel is at fault.
But what can it be? Do you have any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

Fokke Nauta

You need to find out which audio standard the audio panel is wired for.
Is it wired for HD-audio-compliant pin definition or is it wired for
Legacy AC'97 Compliant definition?


On the panel it says HD audio.
See the specifications:
https://www.delock.com/produkte/674_.../merkmale.html

So it definitely must be HD audio.

Factory default has the motherboard configured to use the
HD-audio-compliant front panel. I'd suggest going into the motherboard
configuration and change it to the AC'97 standard and see if that gets
things working for you.

As it claims to be HD aaudio, I don't think this would make sense.

Fokke


Since when does anything PC related need to make sense. When two
different companies make the parts anything is possible. I'm just
suggesting trying the opposite setting of what ever the motherboard is
currently set at. If it does not fix things just put it back and boot
again.


I'll give it a try. Change the audio driver setting to AC 97. I'll come
back on this one.

Fokke
 




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