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  #16  
Old July 25th 12, 07:02 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Per ...winston:
Imo. Home Premium based on the info you've provided would probably be
sufficient (if those are your only needs) and possibly a better choice.
Personally I prefer the Pro version.


Ok, you've talked me out of Basic.

What does Premium do for you that I might want done for me?
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  #17  
Old July 25th 12, 07:21 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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In message , ...winston
writes:

[snip Pete Cresswell's bit - I think; ...winston is using WLW15 without
http://www.dusko-lolic.from.hr/wlmquote/, so I'm not sure who said what]

Basic is primarily intended for emerging market countries and
correspondingly has less geographical availability which also means
geographical restrictions on activation.

[]
I presume you mean as an aftermarket add-on. It's certainly widely
available here (UK, not I wouldn't have thought an "emerging market")
installed on basic netbooks.
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Old July 25th 12, 07:23 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 13:24:59 -0400, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 12:22:22 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)"
wrote in article ...

Per Bruce Hagen:
You may never need it, but with Pro or higher, you can use XP Mode. It
has
come in handy for me.

Which begs the question that's been in the back of my mind since
first seeing "XP Mode"....

Is "XP Mode" something global - i.e. where one boots up the
system in "XP Mode"?

Or is it on an application-by-application basis where an
application can be started in "XP Mode" while the rest of the sys
is running normally?


It is a VM (virtual machine) that you run inside of Windows 7 that
looks and works almost exactly like running XP natively. Video isn't
as good (no 3d as far as I know), performance is a little lacking, and
hardware is virtualized but otherwise it is just like running XP.

From what I understand, you can also run it on an application-by-
application basis as you describe, but I've not run it that way so I
can't really comment or offer advice.


My understanding is that the application-by-application basis is a
matter of configuring the VM to be invisible except for the application
you are running.


Yes, the VM runs invisible and applications are presented to the host
desktop via an RDP connection to the guest.

As anecdotal evidence(?), when I tried to run an application that way,
the program took nearly as long to start as if I had booted the VM first
and then started the program :-)


Depends on how the VM is configured. Default behavior, when no applications
are running, is to hibernate. So launching an application will include the
time it takes to boot the VM up from hibernation. If you have the system
resources you can configure it to stay running so apps will launch quicker
but it will slow down shutting the host down as it will first have to send a
shutdown\hibernate command to the VM and wait for that to complete before
the host finishes its shutdown process.

I didn't use XP Mode for very long, since it was not a match to my apps,
so I didn't learn very much, sorry.




  #19  
Old July 25th 12, 07:23 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:54:09 -0400, "...winston"
wrote:

Basic is primarily intended for emerging market countries and
correspondingly has less geographical availability which also means
geographical restrictions on activation.

Home Basic is only capable of joining a network. Home Premium is able to
create and join a network.


I believe you mean to replace 'network' with 'Homegroup', right? As
in, "Home Basic is only capable of joining a Homegroup. Home Premium
is able to create and join a Homegroup."

Since most people don't use the Homegroup feature, (in my experience),
this isn't a serious limitation.

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  #20  
Old July 25th 12, 08:16 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Gene E. Bloch[_2_]
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 14:23:19 -0400, Seth wrote:

As anecdotal evidence(?), when I tried to run an application that way,
the program took nearly as long to start as if I had booted the VM first
and then started the program :-)


Depends on how the VM is configured. Default behavior, when no applications
are running, is to hibernate. So launching an application will include the
time it takes to boot the VM up from hibernation. If you have the system
resources you can configure it to stay running so apps will launch quicker
but it will slow down shutting the host down as it will first have to send a
shutdown\hibernate command to the VM and wait for that to complete before
the host finishes its shutdown process.


The VM was not running - or hibernating - until I explicitly started it
(or an XP-Mode application), since I always closed the VM when I was
finished.

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  #21  
Old July 25th 12, 09:00 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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I use Win7 Pro not Premium since it provides XP Mode and Presentation Mode.
- you can Google or Bingle for explanations for both of those Pro (or
higher) options.
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"(PeteCresswell)" wrote in message
...

Per ...winston:
Imo. Home Premium based on the info you've provided would probably be
sufficient (if those are your only needs) and possibly a better choice.
Personally I prefer the Pro version.


Ok, you've talked me out of Basic.

What does Premium do for you that I might want done for me?
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  #22  
Old July 25th 12, 09:07 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
...winston[_2_]
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Correct.

I've seen both. Users with Homegroups and those without. If only one pc,
then Homegroup isn't really a variable.



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"Char Jackson" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:54:09 -0400, "...winston"
I believe you mean to replace 'network' with 'Homegroup', right? As
in, "Home Basic is only capable of joining a Homegroup. Home Premium
is able to create and join a Homegroup."

Since most people don't use the Homegroup feature, (in my experience),
this isn't a serious limitation.

--

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  #23  
Old July 25th 12, 10:21 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"...winston" wrote in message
...
Correct.

I've seen both. Users with Homegroups and those without. If only one pc,
then Homegroup isn't really a variable.



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...winston
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"Char Jackson" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:54:09 -0400, "...winston"
I believe you mean to replace 'network' with 'Homegroup', right? As
in, "Home Basic is only capable of joining a Homegroup. Home Premium
is able to create and join a Homegroup."

Since most people don't use the Homegroup feature, (in my experience),
this isn't a serious limitation.


I've found Homegroups to be a major retrograde step and I've set up my
networked PCs to use "old fashioned" XP/Vista style networking, with
servernames and sharenames (\\servername\sharename\folder1\folder2 etc).

One thing to be aware of is that, certainly for Vista, Professional didn't
include Windows Media Centre which Home Premium did. I *think* the same
distinction is true of Win 7 as well, but I've not tried Win 7 Pro so I
can't be certain.

  #24  
Old July 25th 12, 10:46 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Per ...winston:
I've seen both. Users with Homegroups and those without. If only one pc,
then Homegroup isn't really a variable.


Has MS moved the furniture around again, and "HomeGroup" is
really what "WorkGroup" is under XP?
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Old July 25th 12, 11:00 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 22:21:08 +0100, "Mortimer" wrote:

"...winston" wrote in message
...
Correct.

I've seen both. Users with Homegroups and those without. If only one pc,
then Homegroup isn't really a variable.



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"Char Jackson" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:54:09 -0400, "...winston"
I believe you mean to replace 'network' with 'Homegroup', right? As
in, "Home Basic is only capable of joining a Homegroup. Home Premium
is able to create and join a Homegroup."

Since most people don't use the Homegroup feature, (in my experience),
this isn't a serious limitation.


I've found Homegroups to be a major retrograde step and I've set up my
networked PCs to use "old fashioned" XP/Vista style networking, with
servernames and sharenames (\\servername\sharename\folder1\folder2 etc).


I tried the Homegroups feature with a couple of Win 7 machines and it
worked perfectly. Very easy to set up and use. Absolutely no problems
at all. Of course, the trouble comes if you want to add an XP machine,
so you're right back at 'old school' networking. You can do both, of
course, but I figured why bother.

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  #26  
Old July 25th 12, 11:17 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 17:46:02 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)"
wrote:

Per ...winston:
I've seen both. Users with Homegroups and those without. If only one pc,
then Homegroup isn't really a variable.


Has MS moved the furniture around again, and "HomeGroup" is
really what "WorkGroup" is under XP?


No, Homegroup is a new networking feature that exists in addition to
Workgroup, not instead of it. You can ignore it if you like.

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Char Jackson
  #27  
Old July 26th 12, 12:13 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Per Char Jackson:
No, Homegroup is a new networking feature that exists in addition to
Workgroup, not instead of it. You can ignore it if you like.


It's sounding more-and-more like Basic is the one.

Having said that, my gut says there's about a 97% chance I'll be
sorry if I go with Basic.... There's probably something behind
Winston's general assertion that's going to bite me.

But so far, I have not seen any specifics - in fact, the closest
thing to a specific is the thought that it is designed for
less-powerful machines and, by implication, may be less
resource-intensive.

I guess now I'm trolling for somebody who has both (or even all
3: Basic, Premium, and Pro...)
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Old July 26th 12, 12:33 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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(PeteCresswell) wrote:

Per Char Jackson:
No, Homegroup is a new networking feature that exists in addition to
Workgroup, not instead of it. You can ignore it if you like.


It's sounding more-and-more like Basic is the one.


I read somewhere that with Basic, you can only run a couple of apps at a
time. If'n I was you, I'd look into that. I think you should get at least
Home Premium. After all, it's only a few bucks more than Home Basic. Skip
your latte for a day.
  #29  
Old July 26th 12, 12:45 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Per Sam Hill:
I think you should get at least
Home Premium. After all, it's only a few bucks more than Home Basic. Skip
your latte for a day.


Point taken.

But then I'm on to obsessing about the OEM versions - which are a
good hundred bucks less.....
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Old July 26th 12, 01:36 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"(PeteCresswell)" wrote:
Per ...winston:


Imo. Home Premium based on the info you've provided would probably be
sufficient (if those are your only needs) and possibly a better choice.
Personally I prefer the Pro version.


Ok, you've talked me out of Basic.


What does Premium do for you that I might want done for me?


Wikipedia has a concise summary of the differences between the various
editions of Windows 7:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions

Joe


 




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