Increase the performance and lifespan of your SSD

I did with this troll said, I searched for

"static wear leveling" "pagefile.sys"

And received a total of four results, none of them useful.

I wonder why so much interest from the UK.

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"John Doe" wrote on Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:59:55 +0000 (UTC):

Just because wear leveling
is done by firmware, doesn't mean it does it all.

Actually that's exactly what it means. Instead of just guessing, why
not look up "static wear leveling" and read about it? Don't waste
your time deleting and moving files in hopes that you will by accident
do something better than your SSD is designed to do on purpose and by
default.

Look at it this way: let's say you have an almost-full SSD with a PE
cycle limit of 10,000 (to pick a number), how many times do you think
you have to "move" your page file to effectively handle wear leveling
on your own over, say, three years?

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On 1/17/2013 1:31 PM, John Doe wrote:
If
you are computer illiterate, you should stick to asking questions.

That's why you ask so many questions, then. Even the same question in
two threads, starting the second thread because you didn't like the
answers you were given in the first. You're clueless.

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some troll

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On 1/17/2013 1:31 PM, John Doe wrote:
If
you are computer illiterate, you should stick to asking questions.

That's why you ask so many questions, then. Even the same question in
two threads, starting the second thread because you didn't like the
answers you were given in the first. You're clueless.

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In the last episode of , John Doe
said:

some troll

And now you've forgotten how to quote. That's special.

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Silly troll

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In the last episode of kdasib$s0k$1 dont-email.me, John Doe
jdoe usenetlove.invalid said:

some troll

And now you've forgotten how to quote. That's special.

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"John Doe" wrote on Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:22:11 +0000 (UTC):

I did with this troll said, I searched for

"static wear leveling" "pagefile.sys"

You don't get it. pagefile.sys is just more data on your drive. Why
would you expect your SSD to treat it differently than all of the
other data it automatically manages?

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En el artículo , Brandon
Staggs escribió:

You don't get it.

Quite.

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On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:59:55 +0000 (UTC), "John Doe"
wrote in article kd9s8q$rje$1@dont-
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Firmware shmirmware. Back when I bought an IBM PC, using some
instruction from a Peter Norton book and the C programming
language, I wrote directly to video memory. The operating system
deals directly with hardware drivers. Just because wear leveling
is done by firmware, doesn't mean it does it all.

OS talks to drivers, drivers talk to, wait for it, the firmware. In
the case of SSD wear leveling, it is all done by the firmware which is
*the only way you can write to the disk* so it handles it for *all
writes to disk*. Get a clue, man. Google SSD wear leveling *without*
throwing in your precious pagefile.sys term and read, and learn.

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If I had two heads like you, Zaphod,
I could have hours of fun banging them against a wall.
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On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 06:56:27 -0600, Brandon Staggs
wrote:

"John Doe" wrote on Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:22:11 +0000 (UTC):

I did with this troll said, I searched for

"static wear leveling" "pagefile.sys"

You don't get it. pagefile.sys is just more data on your drive. Why
would you expect your SSD to treat it differently than all of the
other data it automatically manages?
I don't think that any SSD handle page files or swap files or
hibernation files in any special way, but it is possible that an
operating system could use a TRIM operation to say that the current
contents of the file didn't matter before each time such a file
was opened for its normal use. [I'm not saying that this would
improve performance, but the idea might be used as a basis for
improved performance and it does ensure that normal access to the
SSD, even by privileged programs, couldn't see old data that was
in the various files.]

On 1/17/2013 1:31 PM, John Doe wrote in part:
Rene Lamontagne klamont shaw.ca wrote:

John Doe wrote:
....

Anybody else consider the possibility that periodically moving
the swap file on an SSD might help prolong its life while
reaping the benefit of an SSD swapfile?

In other words... Instead of putting the swap file on a
conventional drive, keep it on your SSD. Every once in a while,
but just the swap file so that Windows moves it to another
location...
Seems like the numbers now-a-days are such that the operating system
should schedule paging file writes in multiples of a few MB to match
the erase size ("page") of the SSD, rather than ignoring the SSD
characteristics completely or typically using sizes closer to the
write site of the SSD ("block"), which might 8KB.

If this were how the OS "paging" was handled, then the normal
garbage collection would probably be able to run faster.

I think we can stop kicking a dead horse already.

Don't post something as if you knew, when in fact
yours was pure speculation.

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"John Doe" wrote on Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:22:11 +0000 (UTC):

I did with this troll said, I searched for

"static wear leveling" "pagefile.sys"

You don't get it. pagefile.sys is just more data on your drive. Why
would you expect your SSD to treat it differently than all of the
other data it automatically manages?

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Kicking a dead horse, as if it's Luddite speculation
was sure to be fact...

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On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:59:55 +0000 (UTC), "John Doe"
jdoe usenetlove.invalid wrote in article kd9s8q$rje$1 dont-
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Firmware shmirmware. Back when I bought an IBM PC, using some
instruction from a Peter Norton book and the C programming
language, I wrote directly to video memory. The operating system
deals directly with hardware drivers. Just because wear leveling
is done by firmware, doesn't mean it does it all.

OS talks to drivers, drivers talk to, wait for it, the firmware. In
the case of SSD wear leveling, it is all done by the firmware which is
*the only way you can write to the disk* so it handles it for *all
writes to disk*. Get a clue, man. Google SSD wear leveling *without*
throwing in your precious pagefile.sys term and read, and learn.

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Zaphod

If I had two heads like you, Zaphod,
I could have hours of fun banging them against a wall.
-Ford Prefect

On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:29:03 -0500, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:

On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:59:55 +0000 (UTC), "John Doe"
wrote in article kd9s8q$rje$1@dont-
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Firmware shmirmware. Back when I bought an IBM PC, using some
instruction from a Peter Norton book and the C programming
language, I wrote directly to video memory. The operating system
deals directly with hardware drivers. Just because wear leveling
is done by firmware, doesn't mean it does it all.

OS talks to drivers, drivers talk to, wait for it, the firmware. In
the case of SSD wear leveling, it is all done by the firmware which is
*the only way you can write to the disk* so it handles it for *all
writes to disk*. Get a clue, man. Google SSD wear leveling *without*
throwing in your precious pagefile.sys term and read, and learn.

Nice try, but those last three words will not work :-)

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On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 11:24:00 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch" not-
lid wrote in article 31dmfk94gnsz
...

On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:29:03 -0500, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:

On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:59:55 +0000 (UTC), "John Doe"
wrote in article kd9s8q$rje$1@dont-
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Firmware shmirmware. Back when I bought an IBM PC, using some
instruction from a Peter Norton book and the C programming
language, I wrote directly to video memory. The operating system
deals directly with hardware drivers. Just because wear leveling
is done by firmware, doesn't mean it does it all.

OS talks to drivers, drivers talk to, wait for it, the firmware. In
the case of SSD wear leveling, it is all done by the firmware which is
*the only way you can write to the disk* so it handles it for *all
writes to disk*. Get a clue, man. Google SSD wear leveling *without*
throwing in your precious pagefile.sys term and read, and learn.

Nice try, but those last three words will not work :-)

Yup, got that. I'm done here.

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often thought to be completely out to lunch.

Any usefulness this thing's speculation might have had is passé,
replaced with opinions from people who are much smarter and more
experienced.

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On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:29:03 -0500, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:

On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:59:55 +0000 (UTC), "John Doe"
jdoe usenetlove.invalid wrote in article kd9s8q$rje$1 dont-
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Stripped extraneous newsgroups - again...


Firmware shmirmware. Back when I bought an IBM PC, using some
instruction from a Peter Norton book and the C programming
language, I wrote directly to video memory. The operating system
deals directly with hardware drivers. Just because wear leveling
is done by firmware, doesn't mean it does it all.

OS talks to drivers, drivers talk to, wait for it, the firmware. In
the case of SSD wear leveling, it is all done by the firmware which is
*the only way you can write to the disk* so it handles it for *all
writes to disk*. Get a clue, man. Google SSD wear leveling *without*
throwing in your precious pagefile.sys term and read, and learn.

Nice try, but those last three words will not work :-)

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