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How to set Remote Desktop policies in Win10
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I use a WinXP device to access Win10 PCs. Win10 lists errors in "Event Viewer". How do I set 'native mode' on Win10. Details please. I wouldn't ask here if it was easy to find on the web. Thanks. |
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How to set Remote Desktop policies in Win10
On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 20:05:09 -0700, "Norm Why"
wrote: Hi, I use a WinXP device to access Win10 PCs. Win10 lists errors in "Event Viewer". How do I set 'native mode' on Win10. Details please. I wouldn't ask here if it was easy to find on the web. Thanks. I just used Remote Desktop to access a Win 10 system from an XP system and I don't see any errors in Win 10's Event Log. What should I be looking for? |
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How to set Remote Desktop policies in Win10
"Char Jackson" wrote in message
... On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 20:05:09 -0700, "Norm Why" wrote: Hi, I use a WinXP device to access Win10 PCs. Win10 lists errors in "Event Viewer". How do I set 'native mode' on Win10. Details please. I wouldn't ask here if it was easy to find on the web. Thanks. I just used Remote Desktop to access a Win 10 system from an XP system and I don't see any errors in Win 10's Event Log. What should I be looking for? Look for 'remote-desktop-services- and 'terminal-services- You should see them in "Administrative Events". My WinXP is WinXP Professional Version 2002, Service Pack 3. Maybe a better WinXP version exists? |
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How to set Remote Desktop policies in Win10
"Norm Why" wrote in message ... "Char Jackson" wrote in message ... On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 20:05:09 -0700, "Norm Why" wrote: Hi, I use a WinXP device to access Win10 PCs. Win10 lists errors in "Event Viewer". How do I set 'native mode' on Win10. Details please. I wouldn't ask here if it was easy to find on the web. Thanks. I just used Remote Desktop to access a Win 10 system from an XP system and I don't see any errors in Win 10's Event Log. What should I be looking for? Look for 'remote-desktop-services- and 'terminal-services- You should see them in "Administrative Events". My WinXP is WinXP Professional Version 2002, Service Pack 3. Maybe a better WinXP version exists? I should mention my WinXP machine is 32-bit. Maybe 64-bit is better? |
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How to set Remote Desktop policies in Win10
On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 22:55:49 -0700, "Norm Why"
wrote: "Char Jackson" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 20:05:09 -0700, "Norm Why" wrote: Hi, I use a WinXP device to access Win10 PCs. Win10 lists errors in "Event Viewer". How do I set 'native mode' on Win10. Details please. I wouldn't ask here if it was easy to find on the web. Thanks. I just used Remote Desktop to access a Win 10 system from an XP system and I don't see any errors in Win 10's Event Log. What should I be looking for? Look for 'remote-desktop-services- and 'terminal-services- You should see them in "Administrative Events". OK, thanks. I see a (harmless) warning letting me know that redirection of USB devices is disabled by policy. That's not a problem for me and I'm aware of the policy. Are you seeing additional or different errors in your Win 10 event logs? Does Remote Desktop work for you? If not, have you tried disabling the option to "Allow connections only from computers running Remote Desktop with Network Level Authentication"? My WinXP is WinXP Professional Version 2002, Service Pack 3. Maybe a better WinXP version exists? No, you're about as up to date as possible, given that you're using XP. And 32 bit is also probably right where you should be with XP. |
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How to set Remote Desktop policies in Win10
On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 20:05:09 -0700, Norm Why wrote:
Hi, I use a WinXP device to access Win10 PCs. Win10 lists errors in "Event Viewer". How do I set 'native mode' on Win10. Details please. I wouldn't ask here if it was easy to find on the web. Thanks. It's your choice, but any reasom why you're stuck in 2001? |
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How to set Remote Desktop policies in Win10
On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 11:27:10 +0100, mechanic wrote:
It's your choice, but any reasom why you're stuck in 2001? The question mechanic asks is... o What is on Windows 10 that he needs that's not already on Windows XP? Those who haven't asked that question might be surprised by the answers. o What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP or Windows 7? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/fJBY472ds3E -- Almost all "new" versions of mature software are mere marketing promotions. |
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How to set Remote Desktop policies in Win10
mechanic wrote:
On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 20:05:09 -0700, Norm Why wrote: Hi, I use a WinXP device to access Win10 PCs. Win10 lists errors in "Event Viewer". How do I set 'native mode' on Win10. Details please. I wouldn't ask here if it was easy to find on the web. Thanks. It's your choice, but any reasom why you're stuck in 2001? He's using an OS that lets him get work done. It's a concept. Windows 10 is just not daily driver material. It's too busy doing its nails and washing its hair, to care about anyone else. Paul |
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How to set Remote Desktop policies in Win10
On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 11:46:31 -0400, Paul wrote:
He's using an OS that lets him get work done. I worked in the Silicon Valley for decades, much of it in software marketing (among other startup endeavors) where I learned first hand how desperate MARKETING is for a "new version" of software. Much like they put "New Improved" on California egg cartons, it's almost always simply a repackaging of the same old stuff (sometimes worse, as in the case of the Windows 10 tiled menus compared to the XP cascade menu). Besides... Long ago we already asked the question, outside of the fact that Microsoft won't support XP, what FUNCTIONALITY is in Windows 10 that hasn't already been in every other Windows operating system for the past two decades. We could barely scrape up anything that the later Windows does that the earlier Windows already did. Details he o What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP or Windows 7? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/fJBY472ds3E Similar story with MS Office: o What useful functionality is in the newer Microsoft Office that isn't already in the older MSOffice 2007 Pro? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/sKGer09EakA -- In general, in my experience, most if not all "new" versions of mature software are mere MARKETING shenanigans which only the ignorati fall for. |
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How to set Remote Desktop policies in Win10
On 31 Aug 2020, mechanic wrote
(in article ): On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 20:05:09 -0700, Norm Why wrote: Hi, I use a WinXP device to access Win10 PCs. Win10 lists errors in "Event Viewer". How do I set 'native mode' on Win10. Details please. I wouldn't ask here if it was easy to find on the web. Thanks. It's your choice, but any reasom why you're stuck in 2001? 1 he’s using Service Pack 3, which was released in 2008 2 around here we have a few XP machines because the talk to large, expensive, hardware which have problems with later versions of Windows. Hardware support is a major reason for keeping old systems alive. We have devices which cost $150,000 and more which won’t work if they can’t be accessed from a NT 4 to XP system, support was cut off at Vista. Sooner or later we’ll have to replace that hardware, but it won’t be from _those_ vendors. 3 We also have ancient software which won’t run on newer systems. Software support is another major reason to keep old systems alive. No, we don’t see a reason to ‘upgrade’ at the cost of hundreds of thousands when the old system is working. Again, sooner or later we’ll have to replace the ancient software, but that time is not now, not while we still have XP-capable machines. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. |
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Wolffan wrote:
he’s using Service Pack 3, which was released in 2008 Is there an issue with enabling/enforcing Network Level Authentication between WinXP and Win10? Is it even possible to patch WinXP for the CredSSP encryption oracle issue? |
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On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 14:04:33 -0400, Wolffan wrote:
If it ain¢t broke, don¢t fix it. Trouble is, it was broke, as many XP users (inluding many in the NHS in the UK) found when WannaCry ran riot through their systems. |
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How to set Remote Desktop policies in Win10
On 31 Aug 2020 at 19:04:33 BST, "Wolffan" wrote:
On 31 Aug 2020, mechanic wrote (in article ): On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 20:05:09 -0700, Norm Why wrote: Hi, I use a WinXP device to access Win10 PCs. Win10 lists errors in "Event Viewer". How do I set 'native mode' on Win10. Details please. I wouldn't ask here if it was easy to find on the web. Thanks. It's your choice, but any reasom why you're stuck in 2001? 1 he’s using Service Pack 3, which was released in 2008 2 around here we have a few XP machines because the talk to large, expensive, hardware which have problems with later versions of Windows. Hardware support is a major reason for keeping old systems alive. We have devices which cost $150,000 and more which won’t work if they can’t be accessed from a NT 4 to XP system, support was cut off at Vista. Sooner or later we’ll have to replace that hardware, but it won’t be from _those_ vendors. 3 We also have ancient software which won’t run on newer systems. Software support is another major reason to keep old systems alive. No, we don’t see a reason to ‘upgrade’ at the cost of hundreds of thousands when the old system is working. Again, sooner or later we’ll have to replace the ancient software, but that time is not now, not while we still have XP-capable machines. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. We have those too, but they are *not allowed* on the network or at the very least firewalled from the internet. XP *is* broken as WannaCry amply demonstrated and should be treated as such. I honestly think vendors of these super expensive machines should be obligated to keep their software current and working on newer versions of Windows. They know these machines can have long lifespans so should plan appropriately. It's not that they can't, it's that they won't. |
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How to set Remote Desktop policies in Win10
On 01 Sep 2020, mechanic wrote
(in article ): On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 14:04:33 -0400, Wolffan wrote: If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Trouble is, it was broke, as many XP users (inluding many in the NHS in the UK) found when WannaCry ran riot through their systems. That’s why you keep XP machines on a subnet which can’t access the Internet. Our XP machines are on their very own little network, no wireless, optical drives and USB except for keyboard and mouse turned off in BIOS, no floppy drives, one admin user which is not normally used, standard users with restrictions so that any damage from malware is strictly limited. According to El Reg, the majority of WannaCry targets at NHS were Winb 7, not XP. https://www.theregister.com/2017/10/..._wannacry_says _nao_report/ Quote: ______ "NHS Digital told us that the majority of NHS devices infected were unpatched but on supported Microsoft Windows 7 operating systems." Unsupported devices, those on XP, were in the minority of identified issues. _______ Unquote. What nailed the NHS was that they didn’t properly patch and didn’t take proper security seriously. We take security seriously. |
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How to set Remote Desktop policies in Win10
On 01 Sep 2020, Chris wrote
(in article ): On 31 Aug 2020 at 19:04:33 BST, wrote: On 31 Aug 2020, mechanic wrote (in article ): On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 20:05:09 -0700, Norm Why wrote: Hi, I use a WinXP device to access Win10 PCs. Win10 lists errors in "Event Viewer". How do I set 'native mode' on Win10. Details please. I wouldn't ask here if it was easy to find on the web. Thanks. It's your choice, but any reasom why you're stuck in 2001? 1 he’s using Service Pack 3, which was released in 2008 2 around here we have a few XP machines because the talk to large, expensive, hardware which have problems with later versions of Windows. Hardware support is a major reason for keeping old systems alive. We have devices which cost $150,000 and more which won’t work if they can’t be accessed from a NT 4 to XP system, support was cut off at Vista. Sooner or later we’ll have to replace that hardware, but it won’t be from _those_ vendors. 3 We also have ancient software which won’t run on newer systems. Software support is another major reason to keep old systems alive. No, we don’t see a reason to ‘upgrade’ at the cost of hundreds of thousands when the old system is working. Again, sooner or later we’ll have to replace the ancient software, but that time is not now, not while we still have XP-capable machines. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. We have those too, but they are *not allowed* on the network or at the very least firewalled from the internet. XP *is* broken as WannaCry amply demonstrated and should be treated as such. The majority of WannaCry victims were Win 7 and 8 machines which weren’t patched and whose users din’t take security seriously. The Register has a series of articles describing just how bad things were at the NHS prior to WannaCry slapping them. Frankly, there should have been wholesale sacking of senior management, especially senior IT management, after that debacle. I honestly think vendors of these super expensive machines should be obligated to keep their software current and working on newer versions of Windows. They know these machines can have long lifespans so should plan appropriately. It's not that they can't, it's that they won't. Yep. Which is why we’ll be buying elsewhere. |
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