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Win 7/XP
Running a system that is Win 7 ready but I installed WinXP on it because I
like it. Have two hard drives. One is system drive i.e regular drive and the other I clone from system drive at regular intervals using Acronis True Image. If I installed Win 7 on the system drive: 1) Would I be able to boot up the cloned drive with WinXP on it? 2) If not would I be able to pull documents and programs from it or would it be unreadable? Many thanks aw56001 --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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Win 7/XP
In message , Andrew Wilson
writes: Running a system that is Win 7 ready but I installed WinXP on it because I like it. Have two hard drives. One is system drive i.e regular drive and the other I clone from system drive at regular intervals using Acronis True Image. If I installed Win 7 on the system drive: 1) Would I be able to boot up the cloned drive with WinXP on it? Simple answer - no. More complex answer - maybe, but I think you'd have to change settings in the BIOS (possibly even making the "7" drive invisible) each time, and then switch them back. 2) If not would I be able to pull documents and programs from it or would it be unreadable? Depends what you're doing with True Image; you say you're cloning. Are you cloning, or making an image? I think if you're cloning, then yes it should be readable; if you're making an image, I'm not sure if you'd need something to look inside the image. (I think an image is one huge file with everything inside it - a sort of huge .zip file.) But the two terms image and clone, along with the terms copy, backup, and a few others, get bandied about so much that nobody is sure what anybody else means unless they ask probing questions. (It's best to do that - i. e. ask the questions - though, rather than assume people mean the same as you do - because many people think they definitely have all the terms pinned down exactly, but any two such persons are likely to disagree!) For what it's worth, here are _my_ definitions: Clone: making a copy, of a disc's contents, onto another disc, which could be substituted and just work (activation questions notwithstanding) if the first disc fails. Image: saving the contents, and structure, of a disc or even several discs/partitions, into a giant file (which may be split across multiple volumes if you do it to, say, DVD [or CD if you're really masochistic, let alone floppies!], rather than another hard drive or big USB stick). Individual files not accessible without the software that made the images, and sometimes not even then (i. e. sometimes you can only restore the lot, depending on the imaging software - that provided free with Windows 7 is I think of this type). Backup and copy: just ways of saving data files, though backup sometimes system files too. Backup _sometimes_ includes some error-recovery provision. Basically, though, I'd say these two terms - especially backup (copy I think never had any pretensions) - have lost any useful definition. But these are only _my_ definitions (and only currently). Don't rely on them! Many thanks aw56001 --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com I'm pretty sure you can turn off those messages, which you should, because (a) it's not an email (b) it isn't necessarily true at the point of reading (c) you're providing free advertising which you may not have intended to (d) they irritate lots of people. (I'm afraid I don't know the route to turn them off. If you ask - or possibly even without - someone'll come along in a moment and tell you/us.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf There's not an app for that. |
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Win 7/XP
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message ... In message , Andrew Wilson writes: Running a system that is Win 7 ready but I installed WinXP on it because I like it. Have two hard drives. One is system drive i.e regular drive and the other I clone from system drive at regular intervals using Acronis True Image. If I installed Win 7 on the system drive: 1) Would I be able to boot up the cloned drive with WinXP on it? Simple answer - no. More complex answer - maybe, but I think you'd have to change settings in the BIOS (possibly even making the "7" drive invisible) each time, and then switch them back. 2) If not would I be able to pull documents and programs from it or would it be unreadable? Depends what you're doing with True Image; you say you're cloning. Are you cloning, or making an image? I think if you're cloning, then yes it should be readable; if you're making an image, I'm not sure if you'd need something to look inside the image. (I think an image is one huge file with everything inside it - a sort of huge .zip file.) But the two terms image and clone, along with the terms copy, backup, and a few others, get bandied about so much that nobody is sure what anybody else means unless they ask probing questions. (It's best to do that - i. e. ask the questions - though, rather than assume people mean the same as you do - because many people think they definitely have all the terms pinned down exactly, but any two such persons are likely to disagree!) For what it's worth, here are _my_ definitions: Clone: making a copy, of a disc's contents, onto another disc, which could be substituted and just work (activation questions notwithstanding) if the first disc fails. Image: saving the contents, and structure, of a disc or even several discs/partitions, into a giant file (which may be split across multiple volumes if you do it to, say, DVD [or CD if you're really masochistic, let alone floppies!], rather than another hard drive or big USB stick). Individual files not accessible without the software that made the images, and sometimes not even then (i. e. sometimes you can only restore the lot, depending on the imaging software - that provided free with Windows 7 is I think of this type). Backup and copy: just ways of saving data files, though backup sometimes system files too. Backup _sometimes_ includes some error-recovery provision. Basically, though, I'd say these two terms - especially backup (copy I think never had any pretensions) - have lost any useful definition. But these are only _my_ definitions (and only currently). Don't rely on them! Many thanks aw56001 John Many thanks for your answer. It is definitely a clone that I am doing as I can boot from the target drive if the system drive fails (which is what I wanted). I now recall that when I got the machine I had to change a BIOS setting to make it compatible with WinXP but can't remember which now (its probably with the documentation). So in theory I could have one disk running Win7 and one disk running XP if I change the BIOS value each time? This may be basic to some folks but I'm a bit of a novice. Thanks again aw56001 --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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Win 7/XP
In message , Andrew Wilson
writes: [] So in theory I could have one disk running Win7 and one disk running XP if I change the BIOS value each time? This may be basic to some folks but I'm a bit of a novice. [] I've never actually done it, but I don't see why that shouldn't be possible, as long as your mobo/BIOS _has_ a "None" setting for the drives (I've never seen one that doesn't, but these days I wouldn't be surprised if some BIOSes have only an "Auto" setting). Sounds rather a tedious thing to have to keep doing, though. A proper dual-boot system would also allow you to access each disc with the other's OS, which disabling them in the BIOS obviously wouldn't. Though of course you might want it that way. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf If your mind goes blank, remember to turn down the sound. |
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Win 7/XP
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Andrew Wilson writes: [] So in theory I could have one disk running Win7 and one disk running XP if I change the BIOS value each time? This may be basic to some folks but I'm a bit of a novice. [] I've never actually done it, but I don't see why that shouldn't be possible, as long as your mobo/BIOS _has_ a "None" setting for the drives (I've never seen one that doesn't, but these days I wouldn't be surprised if some BIOSes have only an "Auto" setting). Sounds rather a tedious thing to have to keep doing, though. A proper dual-boot system would also allow you to access each disc with the other's OS, which disabling them in the BIOS obviously wouldn't. Though of course you might want it that way. If you use an "OS-per-disk" installation strategy and the BIOS has (F8) popup boot, there is no need to store a permanent startup disk in the BIOS. You visit the BIOS popup boot menu and select the boot disk there. This is a typical decoration scheme (what appears on your screen) with popup boot. Some systems use F8, F11, or even F2 as the key to select this. Check the user manual on your system, to discover the key to use. http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19127-01/...twork-Menu.gif Then, no OS boot menus are needed. (As long as an OS boot menu has only one OS listed, it doesn't need to appear on the screen.) The BIOS popup boot does not exist on older computers. My first PC, doesn't even have USB boot capability, let alone a popup boot menu. But more modern systems do have it. Perhaps computers within the last eight years or so. Paul |
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