How do I print part of an image to fill the sheet of paper.

On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 21:22:54 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , micky
writes:
On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 01:18:04 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:
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+1; it reads TIFF, crop, draw coloured lines on, etc., and the print
screen is very versatile - it shows a little mimic of the piece of
paper. You can set a size in pixels, inches, or cm., retaining the
aspect ratio or not, best fit to page retaining aspect ratio or not ...

Well, Irfanview didn't do much for me. But I'm satisfied with another
method, so if you're like me and you start your reply at the same time
you start reading, bear that in mind.

I took the file after I had used MSPaint to draw my colored lines, and I
used Irfan to convert it from TIF to JPG, and it continued to be a small
drawing in the corner. I couldn't manage to resize it using resize. I
put 200 or 300 percent in the percent field, and sometimes it took no
time, other times it took quite a while with the hourglass, but when it
finished, the drawing was the same size. I rotated the drawing 90^

As shown in the number of pixels (bottom left of window or top of
screen, depending which view you're looking at in Irfan), or just size
on screen? Irfan has the option to zoom - out or in - to fit the window,
which unless you're in full screen mode, you toggle with the F (for
"fit") key. (In full screen mode, the F key still changes zoom mode, but
cycling through I think six modes.) If you _are_ in fit-window-to-image
mode, then changing the size in the resize screen won't _appear_ to do
anything - if you double it, for example, it'll just zoom to half the
magnification.

before I tried this, and later I tried without any rotating. I used
the defaults on the Resize screen. I would appeciate help on this,
for next time, if it doesn't take too much time.


Then I went back to MSPaint and finally noticed that the scroll bars, H
and Vertical, were only abut 1/4 the length of the scroll runway. Even

That was my thought earlier actually: that you'd actually got a big
white image, with your picture just in a corner of it. If that's the
case, in Irfan, view it, and if you have scroll bars, type F to see all
of it - then draw a rectangle around the bit with your image in it, and
crop (Ctrl-Y).

though I had copied from the original TIF only a part with writing,
somehow, the new file was 4 times as wide and about 4 times as high, and
the rest was blank. How did it decide that the copy and pasted part
was 1/4 of the dimensions of the whole and not 1/10, or 4/4ths?

I think paint sometimes creates an image of a size it decides on, and
when you paste into it, your paste goes into a corner of it. I just
opened Paint here, and it has opened at 640 × 400 (yes, 400 not 480).

I continued in MSPaint, put a box around the whole part with writing,
and copied it to the scratchpad, or whateve it is called. (I can never

Clipboard. Though when I read your post at first, I couldn't remember
either (-: ...

Clipboard! That's it! I've had trouble remembering this word for 15
years, long before I had trouble remembering other words.

(In IBM mainframes, it's called the SPA, the scratchpad area.)

remember) . I guess it remained a .tif when I did this.

Weeell, while it's in the memory of an image program, it's not anything
- it's raw image data. Looking at what Paint can _open_, it seems to be
JPEG, GIF, TIFF, PNG, and ICO; looking at what it can _save_, you can
choose bitmap (1, 4, 8, or 24 bits per pixel), JPEG, GIF, TIFF, or PNG.
(I hadn't realised it could do all those; I'm sure I remember when it
just did BMPs - possibly back in the '9x days.)

Uh huh.
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screen, then if I tried to drag it by one of those pins at the corners
or in the middle of the sides, instead of moving in one piece, it just
stretched out, to the left or to the corner. This didn't move the

Hmm. In Word, I think the corner "handles" zoom the size keeping the
aspect ratio the same, whereas the middle-of-sides ones stretch or
squeeze it (I think it's that way round, anyway).

When the 8.5x11 area was to the left, pulling on the corner would have
made it bigger, which woudl be okay, except the right half was still
hanging over the width boundary.

When I moved the 8.5x11 area to the middle, since it was already the
right width, stretching it vertically would have distorted it.

right end to the 8x11 space when that was to the left, so eventually I
put the 8x11 in the middle and pasted again. Now it was in the middle
horizontallly, half way between the top and bottom and dragging on a top
pin would just make it taller, not move the whole thing. So I left it
in the middle and printed it and it's pretty good.

Ah, sounds like you have some sort of "layers", where the image is on a
different one to the text. Drives me nuts when I have to edit someone
else's Word document that's got images like that.

I guess I'll understand this if I live long enough.

In neither program could I rotate. OODraw, iirc only had rotating of
text, and OOWrite had nothing. Doesn't MSWord have Rotate? OODraw

Yes - you get a sort of handle that sticks out of one side of the image,
and you turn it round with that. Not sure which version that came in
with.
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could figure out how, rotated and made the image substantially bigger if
I could place it in landscape mode.

Just R (for right) or L in IrfanView ... (-: (Or shift-J then R or L for
"lossless" rotation (by multiples of 90° only) of JPEGs.

In irfanview I could rotate it. I never tried pasting into Irfanview,
only into the two open office programs. With Irfan, I only opened the
file. Maybe if I'd pasted, it woudl have been full width and then I
could have rotated, and it would have looked nice.

But by this time there were so many paths to take.

I didn't write many comments but I will try some more experiments with
all this, using your suggestions. Thanks.

Thanks for your help.

Well, ... (-: