Mozilla Release

On 7/22/2014 2:30 PM, Paul wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:
BillW50 wrote:

Geez! A jump from 24.6.0 to 31? What happened to 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, and
30?

Because Firefox is in active development, but Thunderbird is only
(some would say thankfully) in maintenance mode therefore the
following versions were released from the same codebases ...

TB24.0 FF24.0 FF24.0ESR
TB24.1 FF25.0 FF24.1ESR
TB24.2 FF26.0 FF24.2ESR
TB24.3 FF27.0 FF24.3ESR
TB24.4 FF28.0 FF24.4ESR
TB24.5 FF29.0 FF24.5ESR
TB24.6 FF30.0 FF24.6ESR

now since it's time for a major FF ESR release ...

TB31.0 FF31.0 FF31.0ESR

have been released

The code in Thunderbird, involves a browser engine.
Which means Thunderbird maintenance is potentially tied
to bugs in Firefox. Even if no Thunderbird-specific
code was changed at all, there might be reasons
to import new Firefox code and re-release Thunderbird.
If Thunderbird was not HTML-enabled, this would
not be necessary.

Yeah Firefox didn't miss a beat, but they didn't bother with Thunderbird
until 5 versions later for a release a public release. Yes we get it
what product they really don't care much for.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Kingston 120GB SSD - Thunderbird v24.4.0
Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2

On 7/22/2014 2:37 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 21:13:24 +0200, Alias wrote:

Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 14:02:54 -0500, BillW50 wrote:

Geez! A jump from 24.6.0 to 31? What happened to 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, and
30? By the way, portable apps doesn't have it yet. It usually takes a
few days for a new release.

Because 25 to 30 where all beta versions.
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla....bird/releases/

Because 25 through 30 were too awful for public release, right?

snipped the rest of the bitching

Yeah, users are supposed to stay quiet and don't interfere with what
they feed you. Yes I got it.

Maybe you missed something. I am, in fact, updating from 30 (which was
not marked beta) to 31 as we speak.

I updated both FF and TB with no problems whatsoever.

Thanks for the reminder :-)

Thanks to that, I updated TB too - and it did skip a lot of release
numbers.

But neither TB nor FF reminded me - I thought they were *supposed* to
remind me. Could it have been something I said?

If you turned updates off at some point, it won't.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Kingston 120GB SSD - Thunderbird v24.4.0
Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2

On 7/22/2014 1:42 PM, DevilsPGD wrote:
In the last episode of , BillW50
said:

I am still waiting for the promised Metro support. It was there briefly
in 26 or was it 27, then it disappeared.

The Windows 8 Modern Interface seems to be a bit too difficult for
Mozilla to figure out. Shame.

Thank God.

The Modern Interface is a disaster on a laptop or desktop. From the
prereviews of Windows 9 it is being reconsidered as a viable desktop and
laptop interface. It has definitely been significantly pushed to the
back ground in Windows 8.1

On 7/22/2014 2:34 PM, Leala wrote:
On 22-Jul-2014 13:37, BillW50 wrote:
On 7/22/2014 12:24 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
This morning Mozila released its most recent versions of Thunderbird and
Firefox.

Mozilla continues to improve its email/newsreader Thunderbird with the
release of version 31.

Geez! A jump from 24.6.0 to 31? What happened to 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, and
30? By the way, portable apps doesn't have it yet. It usually takes a
few days for a new release.


Because 25 to 30 where all beta versions.
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla....bird/releases/

snipped the rest of the bitching


Gecko version 25 to 30 of Thunderbird were releast as version 24.1
through 24.6

On 22/07/2014 18:42, DevilsPGD wrote:
In the last episode of , BillW50
said:

I am still waiting for the promised Metro support. It was there briefly
in 26 or was it 27, then it disappeared.
The Windows 8 Modern Interface seems to be a bit too difficult for
Mozilla to figure out. Shame.


It could be that Microsoft is refusing to release its SDK for Windows 8
for programmers to start developing new applications for Windows 8.

On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 14:42:19 -0500, BillW50 wrote:

On 7/22/2014 2:37 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 21:13:24 +0200, Alias wrote:

Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 14:02:54 -0500, BillW50 wrote:

Geez! A jump from 24.6.0 to 31? What happened to 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, and
30? By the way, portable apps doesn't have it yet. It usually takes a
few days for a new release.

Because 25 to 30 where all beta versions.
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla....bird/releases/

Because 25 through 30 were too awful for public release, right?

snipped the rest of the bitching

Yeah, users are supposed to stay quiet and don't interfere with what
they feed you. Yes I got it.

Maybe you missed something. I am, in fact, updating from 30 (which was
not marked beta) to 31 as we speak.

I updated both FF and TB with no problems whatsoever.

Thanks for the reminder :-)

Thanks to that, I updated TB too - and it did skip a lot of release
numbers.

But neither TB nor FF reminded me - I thought they were *supposed* to
remind me. Could it have been something I said?

If you turned updates off at some point, it won't.

Since you haven't guessed, let me inform you: I never turned updates
off.

My question about why I was not reminded was possibly intended
sardonically.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On 7/22/2014 4:08 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 14:42:19 -0500, BillW50 wrote:

On 7/22/2014 2:37 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 21:13:24 +0200, Alias wrote:

Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 14:02:54 -0500, BillW50 wrote:

Geez! A jump from 24.6.0 to 31? What happened to 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, and
30? By the way, portable apps doesn't have it yet. It usually takes a
few days for a new release.

Because 25 to 30 where all beta versions.
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla....bird/releases/

Because 25 through 30 were too awful for public release, right?

snipped the rest of the bitching

Yeah, users are supposed to stay quiet and don't interfere with what
they feed you. Yes I got it.

Maybe you missed something. I am, in fact, updating from 30 (which was
not marked beta) to 31 as we speak.

I updated both FF and TB with no problems whatsoever.

Thanks for the reminder :-)

Thanks to that, I updated TB too - and it did skip a lot of release
numbers.

But neither TB nor FF reminded me - I thought they were *supposed* to
remind me. Could it have been something I said?

If you turned updates off at some point, it won't.

Since you haven't guessed, let me inform you: I never turned updates
off.

Well then maybe it was something you said. ;-)

My question about why I was not reminded was possibly intended
sardonically.

Oh a big fan of the Three Stooges, are we?

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Kingston 120GB SSD - Thunderbird v24.4.0
Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2

On 7/22/2014 3:03 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 7/22/2014 2:34 PM, Leala wrote:
On 22-Jul-2014 13:37, BillW50 wrote:
On 7/22/2014 12:24 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
This morning Mozila released its most recent versions of Thunderbird
and
Firefox.

Mozilla continues to improve its email/newsreader Thunderbird with the
release of version 31.

Geez! A jump from 24.6.0 to 31? What happened to 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, and
30? By the way, portable apps doesn't have it yet. It usually takes a
few days for a new release.

Because 25 to 30 where all beta versions.
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla....bird/releases/

snipped the rest of the bitching

Gecko version 25 to 30 of Thunderbird were releast as version 24.1
through 24.6

Very odd. No sense keeping everything sensible eh?

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Kingston 120GB SSD - Thunderbird v24.4.0
Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2

On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 16:17:51 -0500, BillW50 wrote:

On 7/22/2014 4:08 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 14:42:19 -0500, BillW50 wrote:

On 7/22/2014 2:37 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 21:13:24 +0200, Alias wrote:

Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 14:02:54 -0500, BillW50 wrote:

Geez! A jump from 24.6.0 to 31? What happened to 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, and
30? By the way, portable apps doesn't have it yet. It usually takes a
few days for a new release.

Because 25 to 30 where all beta versions.
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla....bird/releases/

Because 25 through 30 were too awful for public release, right?

snipped the rest of the bitching

Yeah, users are supposed to stay quiet and don't interfere with what
they feed you. Yes I got it.

Maybe you missed something. I am, in fact, updating from 30 (which was
not marked beta) to 31 as we speak.

I updated both FF and TB with no problems whatsoever.

Thanks for the reminder :-)

Thanks to that, I updated TB too - and it did skip a lot of release
numbers.

But neither TB nor FF reminded me - I thought they were *supposed* to
remind me. Could it have been something I said?

If you turned updates off at some point, it won't.

Since you haven't guessed, let me inform you: I never turned updates
off.

Well then maybe it was something you said. ;-)

Yeah, I've got to watch what I say & how I say it...

My question about why I was not reminded was possibly intended
sardonically.

Oh a big fan of the Three Stooges, are we?

We are :-)

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

In the last episode of , Melzzzzz
said:

I think that Mozilla said that support for Metro is dropped
on purpose, because of lack of users.

Yes, but I'd argue that the lack of users was due to the terrible state
of the product. It's a chicken and egg problem.

--
There's your answer, Fishbulb.

On 7/22/2014 4:38 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 16:17:51 -0500, BillW50 wrote:

On 7/22/2014 4:08 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 14:42:19 -0500, BillW50 wrote:

On 7/22/2014 2:37 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 21:13:24 +0200, Alias wrote:

Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 14:02:54 -0500, BillW50 wrote:

Geez! A jump from 24.6.0 to 31? What happened to 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, and
30? By the way, portable apps doesn't have it yet. It usually takes a
few days for a new release.

Because 25 to 30 where all beta versions.
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla....bird/releases/

Because 25 through 30 were too awful for public release, right?

snipped the rest of the bitching

Yeah, users are supposed to stay quiet and don't interfere with what
they feed you. Yes I got it.

Maybe you missed something. I am, in fact, updating from 30 (which was
not marked beta) to 31 as we speak.

I updated both FF and TB with no problems whatsoever.

Thanks for the reminder :-)

Thanks to that, I updated TB too - and it did skip a lot of release
numbers.

But neither TB nor FF reminded me - I thought they were *supposed* to
remind me. Could it have been something I said?

If you turned updates off at some point, it won't.

Since you haven't guessed, let me inform you: I never turned updates
off.

Well then maybe it was something you said. ;-)

Yeah, I've got to watch what I say & how I say it...

My question about why I was not reminded was possibly intended
sardonically.

Oh a big fan of the Three Stooges, are we?

We are :-)

Curly: "What's that monkey got, that I ain't got?"
Moe: "A longer tail."

James C. Morton: "This bed goes back to Henry the 8th."
Curly: "That's nuthin'. We had a bed that went back to Sears Roebuck the
3rd."

Moe: "Did you ever have your valves ground?"
Curly: "Coitainly, wid' onions!"

Phyllis Barry: "One move out of you, and I'll kill you."
Curly: "If you do, I'll never talk to you again!"

Moe: "I got an idea! We'll make a mummy out of you!"
Curly: "But I can't be a mummy, I'm a daddy!"

Leroy Mason: "What kind of fool do you take me for?"
Curly: "Why? Is there more than one kind?"

Curly: "I'm tryin' to think, but nuthin' happens."

Nyuk nyuk nyuk!

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Kingston 120GB SSD - Thunderbird v24.4.0
Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2

On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 16:00:39 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:


The Modern Interface is a disaster on a laptop or desktop.


That's a very strong statement. Like you, I don't like it at all, but
I *do* know several people who like it a lot. I'm not sure who's in
the majority--those who like it or those who don't.

On 22 Jul 2014, Keith Nuttle wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

The Modern Interface is a disaster on a laptop or desktop.

I don't know that I would call it a "disaster". More like "unnecessary"
and "a step backward in usability."

On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 16:45:57 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:

The Modern Interface is a disaster on a laptop or desktop.


That's a very strong statement. Like you, I don't like it at all, but
I *do* know several people who like it a lot. I'm not sure who's in
the majority--those who like it or those who don't.

Perhaps a few people do like it, but the way it works is out of step
with all other major operating systems, Windows, Mac and Linux.
Anybody who only learns how to use a Windows 8 computer may have
difficulty using a real one.

Rod.

Roderick Stewart wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 16:45:57 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:

The Modern Interface is a disaster on a laptop or desktop.

That's a very strong statement. Like you, I don't like it at all, but
I *do* know several people who like it a lot. I'm not sure who's in
the majority--those who like it or those who don't.

Perhaps a few people do like it, but the way it works is out of step
with all other major operating systems, Windows, Mac and Linux.
Anybody who only learns how to use a Windows 8 computer may have
difficulty using a real one.

Rod.

Well, I guess this will be your new OS then.

The rest of us... not so much.

http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-c...r-all-devices/

Paul