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  #46  
Old March 18th 09, 04:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
3c273
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Posts: 424
Default How To Use Sysinternals Contig.exe

"ColTom2" wrote in message
...
Hi Ian:

You have provided more info about this file than anyone. I am proud of
you!

I assume that if you change the settings back to Automatic Updates and
Distributed Transactions Coordinator that Windows will build the file back
to the same status that it is currently.

I still am amazed that you found this info, as I have looked high and

low
off an on for a good period of time.

Thanks so much and a BIG salute to you!

ColTom2

And now you've wasted 2 days of your life trying to defrag a 1MB file that
gets deleted on shutdown.
(Sorry, couldn't resist.)
Louis


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  #47  
Old March 18th 09, 04:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
3c273
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Posts: 424
Default How To Use Sysinternals Contig.exe

"ColTom2" wrote in message
...
Hi Ian:

You have provided more info about this file than anyone. I am proud of
you!

I assume that if you change the settings back to Automatic Updates and
Distributed Transactions Coordinator that Windows will build the file back
to the same status that it is currently.

I still am amazed that you found this info, as I have looked high and

low
off an on for a good period of time.

Thanks so much and a BIG salute to you!

ColTom2

And now you've wasted 2 days of your life trying to defrag a 1MB file that
gets deleted on shutdown.
(Sorry, couldn't resist.)
Louis


  #48  
Old March 19th 09, 02:00 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
ColTom2
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Posts: 589
Default How To Use Sysinternals Contig.exe

I'll close by saying that Ian answered the question and it certainly was
not you.

Bet you learned a little something in the process....(I could say sour
grapes, couldn't resist.)

ColTom2


"3c273" wrote in message
...
"ColTom2" wrote in message
...
Hi Ian:

You have provided more info about this file than anyone. I am proud of
you!

I assume that if you change the settings back to Automatic Updates and
Distributed Transactions Coordinator that Windows will build the file back
to the same status that it is currently.

I still am amazed that you found this info, as I have looked high and

low
off an on for a good period of time.

Thanks so much and a BIG salute to you!

ColTom2

And now you've wasted 2 days of your life trying to defrag a 1MB file that
gets deleted on shutdown.
(Sorry, couldn't resist.)
Louis



  #49  
Old March 19th 09, 02:00 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
ColTom2
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Posts: 589
Default How To Use Sysinternals Contig.exe

I'll close by saying that Ian answered the question and it certainly was
not you.

Bet you learned a little something in the process....(I could say sour
grapes, couldn't resist.)

ColTom2


"3c273" wrote in message
...
"ColTom2" wrote in message
...
Hi Ian:

You have provided more info about this file than anyone. I am proud of
you!

I assume that if you change the settings back to Automatic Updates and
Distributed Transactions Coordinator that Windows will build the file back
to the same status that it is currently.

I still am amazed that you found this info, as I have looked high and

low
off an on for a good period of time.

Thanks so much and a BIG salute to you!

ColTom2

And now you've wasted 2 days of your life trying to defrag a 1MB file that
gets deleted on shutdown.
(Sorry, couldn't resist.)
Louis



  #50  
Old October 3rd 10, 04:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Rick V
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Posts: 1
Default Wow!

I have to agree with Louis. 2 days to get an answer about how to defrag a 1mb file, that cannot possibly be defragmented, because it is not accessible when created, but is not created if you turn off the auto updates. I guess you could go so far as to dual boot your system, just to find that, because you didn't boot into your Windows OS, the file was never created, hence cannot be defragmented. Sounds like the 'ol catch 22 scenario. I believe you are right, we all learned something in this process (with the apparent exception of ColTom2). I know that I learned that there is no limit to the length of time a person will waste to solve a problem that is

a) So insignificant that it warrants no thought
b) Is not really possible since the file is either there and not accessible, or not there so irrelevent.

This reminds me of a line from the 1988 movie Off Limits by the Fred Ward character. "You guys are floating in a rowboat in a cesspool full of turds, and you look down at one turd and say 'That turd p#$(%^s me off!, I'm gonna do something about that turd!'"

(I could have resisted, but didn't want to)

On Monday, March 16, 2009 3:28 PM ColTom2 wrote:


Hi;

I would like to defrag the following file
"C:\Windows\System32\CatRoot2\tmp.edb" with Sysinternals Contig v1.55.

I extracted the file Contig.exe from the Sysinternals Suite to my Desktop,
but when I click on it the Command Prompt screen briefly appears and then is
gone.

How can I use this application to defrag the file listed above? Please
give me specific instructions.

Thanks,

ColTom2



On Monday, March 16, 2009 3:44 PM Pegasus [MVP] wrote:


"ColTom2" wrote in message
...

You need to perform the first debugging step yourself, by making all
messages visible:
1. Click Start
2. Type the three letters cmd
3. Click OK
4. Type the command you wish to execute, e.g.
desktop\contig.exe
5. Read the message(s) you see.



On Monday, March 16, 2009 3:58 PM ColTom2 wrote:


I cannot get your instructions to work from the CMD Prompt.

ColTom2


"Pegasus [MVP]" wrote in message
...

"ColTom2" wrote in message
...

You need to perform the first debugging step yourself, by making all
messages visible:
1. Click Start
2. Type the three letters cmd
3. Click OK
4. Type the command you wish to execute, e.g.
desktop\contig.exe
5. Read the message(s) you see.



On Monday, March 16, 2009 3:59 PM John Wunderlich wrote:


Step 1.5: Click "Run".

-- John



On Monday, March 16, 2009 4:06 PM Pegasus [MVP] wrote:


Oops . . . Thank you.



On Monday, March 16, 2009 4:41 PM ColTom2 wrote:


Thanks, as your instructions worked! But the file still cannot be defragged
for some reason.

ColTom2


"meerkat" wrote in message
...

"ColTom2" wrote in message
...
Are you ready ?. Then we`ll begin.
Start / Run , and type in CMD
Now you are in the Command window.
Open SI Contig, by highlighting, and drag it into the
command window.
Then add the full path to you file...
C:\Windows\System32\CatRoot2\tmp.edb
Leave a space between the two items.
bw..



On Monday, March 16, 2009 5:03 PM Bob I wrote:


Perhaps start in Safe Mode and just delete it.

ColTom2 wrote:



On Monday, March 16, 2009 7:36 PM ColTom2 wrote:


It seems that you cannot do anything with this file
"C:\Windows\System32\CatRoot2\tmp.edb". You cannot delete, copy, transfer,
defrag, or anything else. It's like a "stealth" file and the only Windows
file that I have ever seen like this.

Very unique file to say the least.....

ColTom2

"Bob I" wrote in message
...
Perhaps start in Safe Mode and just delete it.

ColTom2 wrote:



On Monday, March 16, 2009 7:50 PM ColTom2 wrote:


I should have explained further what I meant by "Stealth" mode....the file
does not appear in Safemode.

ColTom2


"ColTom2" wrote in message
...
It seems that you cannot do anything with this file
"C:\Windows\System32\CatRoot2\tmp.edb". You cannot delete, copy, transfer,
defrag, or anything else. It's like a "stealth" file and the only Windows
file that I have ever seen like this.

Very unique file to say the least.....

ColTom2

"Bob I" wrote in message
...
Perhaps start in Safe Mode and just delete it.

ColTom2 wrote:



On Monday, March 16, 2009 8:03 PM ju.c wrote:


You'll like this:

"Power Defragmenter is a GUI (Graphic User Interface) application
for program Contig by Sysinternals. Contig is a very powerful
defragmentation application designed for Windows NT/2000/XP
operating systems. Please take a few minutes and check Sysinternals
webpage for other cool programs. Contig created by Mark Russinovich
and Bryce Cogswell."

Power Defragmenter 410 KB (Freeware)
http://cid-94a12102e5094675.skydrive...fragmenter.zip


ju.c


"ColTom2" wrote in message ...



On Monday, March 16, 2009 8:20 PM SPAMCOP User wrote:


If you downloaded it from the authors website you would see the instructions
of use. Here is the website:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb897428.aspx

--
SPAMCOP User



On Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 PM Ian D wrote:


"ColTom2" wrote in message
...
The reason you can't see it in SafeMode is because the file is
not there. It's deleted when XP shuts down. It's a temporary
workspace for processing information exchange transactions.
If you check Catroot2 immediately after a normal boot up, tmp.edb
probably won't be there. It will be created when required.



On Monday, March 16, 2009 8:51 PM meerkat wrote:


"ColTom2" wrote in message
...
Are you ready ?. Then we`ll begin.
Start / Run , and type in CMD
Now you are in the Command window.
Open SI Contig, by highlighting, and drag it into the
command window.
Then add the full path to you file...
C:\Windows\System32\CatRoot2\tmp.edb
Leave a space between the two items.
bw..



On Monday, March 16, 2009 9:01 PM ColTom2 wrote:


Hi Ian:

I have always found it in the listed file string after reboot. The file is
always the same size 1,032kb. Also apparently when it is rebuilt the file is
fragmented for whatever reason, as Windows Defrag cannot currently Defrag
this file on my laptop.

I have a Sony desktop running XP Pro SP3 with this file and have no
problems with Windows Defrag running through to completion, but my Toshiba
laptop XP Home SP3 will not run through the Defrag to completion.

I have fixed this problem once or twice before, but I never really found
exactly what allowed me to run Windows Defrag to completion sometimes while
other times not. If I ever update Java to a new edition I always normally
have this Defrag problem with either of the computers.

Maybe you have an answer?

ColTom2

P.S. I appreciate your info about this file that you sent.


"Ian D" wrote in message
...

"ColTom2" wrote in message
...
The reason you can't see it in SafeMode is because the file is
not there. It's deleted when XP shuts down. It's a temporary
workspace for processing information exchange transactions.
If you check Catroot2 immediately after a normal boot up, tmp.edb
probably won't be there. It will be created when required.



On Monday, March 16, 2009 9:49 PM HeyBub wrote:


ColTom2 wrote:

It is useless to tell what the computer does NOT do. Always provide what the
computer DOES do.



On Monday, March 16, 2009 10:10 PM ColTom2 wrote:


Now this is a "Hummer"! I am impressed....

Thanks!

ColTom2


"ju.c" wrote in message
...
You'll like this:

"Power Defragmenter is a GUI (Graphic User Interface) application
for program Contig by Sysinternals. Contig is a very powerful
defragmentation application designed for Windows NT/2000/XP
operating systems. Please take a few minutes and check Sysinternals
webpage for other cool programs. Contig created by Mark Russinovich
and Bryce Cogswell."

Power Defragmenter 410 KB (Freeware)
http://cid-94a12102e5094675.skydrive...fragmenter.zip


ju.c


"ColTom2" wrote in message
...



On Monday, March 16, 2009 10:26 PM Twayne wrote:


ColTom2 wrote:

I suspect a normal defrag operation cannot touch it because it's in use.
I don't know how to tell when it's in use and when it's not, but I'd
suggest that maybe it lets defrage run OK on Pro but not on Home would
be due to some inconsistancy between the two, because a file simply
being "in use" shouldn't prevent defrag from completing, AFAIK.

It's also interesting to me that it's created fragmented. Since it's
only a 1 Meg file, it seems like there shouldn't be anything to cause it
to be fragmented upon creation unless the disk is full or thinks it's
full. It's just a database so there about has to be something else
going on there. Got access to any other Pro/Home machines to see if the
pattern is repeatable?

No help I know, but perhaps some musings that might trigger something.

Cheers,

Twayne



On Monday, March 16, 2009 10:35 PM Ian D wrote:


"ColTom2" wrote in message
...
The problem with tmp.edb is that it always seems to be in use,
so you can't touch it to move, delete, or defrag it. Other than
that, it just has normal file attributes. Also, I've found its
behaviour to be not always consistent. On my main XP Pro,
the file disappeared after reboot, and has not returned as of
now. The same has happened with my laptop with XP Pro.

I have another desktop with XP Pro, and when XP was started,
tmp.edb was there, displaying the time of the startup. I rebooted,
and now it's gone, weird.

Your situation is where a multi-boot comes in handy. If you
have problematic files, boot into the other OS and you have
full access to the first OS's partition for deleting, defragmenting,
etc.



On Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:01 AM Bob I wrote:


Then it does not "need defragging".

ColTom2 wrote:



On Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:19 AM R. McCarty wrote:


That database file is created as part of the bootup sequence. Usually it
averages around ~1.0 Megabyte. Windows will have open file handle(s)
to the file so it's not something you can delete or possibly modify with a
defrag utility. I can't say for sure, but based on it's location I'd guess
it is
a component of Windows Automatic updates.

"Bob I" wrote in message
...



On Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:58 PM ColTom2 wrote:


I think you are right about it being a component of WU.... if I recall
reading it correctly somewhere.

ColTom2

"R. McCarty" wrote in message
...
That database file is created as part of the bootup sequence. Usually it
averages around ~1.0 Megabyte. Windows will have open file handle(s)
to the file so it's not something you can delete or possibly modify with a
defrag utility. I can't say for sure, but based on it's location I'd guess
it is
a component of Windows Automatic updates.

"Bob I" wrote in message
...



On Tuesday, March 17, 2009 6:36 PM Ian D wrote:


"ColTom2" wrote in message
...

To get rid of tmp.edb, disable the Automatic Updates service, and
make sure the Distributed Transaction Coordinator service is set
to manual, then reboot. After reboot tmp.edb will either be gone,
or accessible. The other edb.* files are also now accessible and can
be deleted. The tmp.edb is used for Windows update transactions.



On Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:27 PM ColTom2 wrote:


Hi Ian:

You have provided more info about this file than anyone. I am proud of
you!

I assume that if you change the settings back to Automatic Updates and
Distributed Transactions Coordinator that Windows will build the file back
to the same status that it is currently.

I still am amazed that you found this info, as I have looked high and low
off an on for a good period of time.

Thanks so much and a BIG salute to you!

ColTom2




"Ian D" wrote in message
...

"ColTom2" wrote in message
...

To get rid of tmp.edb, disable the Automatic Updates service, and
make sure the Distributed Transaction Coordinator service is set
to manual, then reboot. After reboot tmp.edb will either be gone,
or accessible. The other edb.* files are also now accessible and can
be deleted. The tmp.edb is used for Windows update transactions.



On Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:33 AM 3c273 wrote:


low
And now you have wasted 2 days of your life trying to defrag a 1MB file that
gets deleted on shutdown.
(Sorry, could not resist.)
Louis



On Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:00 PM ColTom2 wrote:


I'll close by saying that Ian answered the question and it certainly was
not you.

Bet you learned a little something in the process....(I could say sour
grapes, couldn't resist.)

ColTom2


"3c273" wrote in message
...
"ColTom2" wrote in message
...
low
And now you've wasted 2 days of your life trying to defrag a 1MB file that
gets deleted on shutdown.
(Sorry, couldn't resist.)
Louis



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  #51  
Old October 4th 10, 01:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Jack Knoff
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Posts: 8
Default Wow!

Egghead HoopleHead.

"Rick V" wrote in message
...
I have to agree with Louis. 2 days to get an answer about how to defrag a
1mb file, that cannot possibly be defragmented, because it is not
accessible when created, but is not created if you turn off the auto
updates. I guess you could go so far as to dual boot your system, just to
find that, because you didn't boot into your Windows OS, the file was never
created, hence cannot be defragmented. Sounds like the 'ol catch 22
scenario. I believe you are right, we all learned something in this
process (with the apparent exception of ColTom2). I know that I learned
that there is no limit to the length of time a person will waste to solve a
problem that is

a) So insignificant that it warrants no thought
b) Is not really possible since the file is either there and not
accessible, or not there so irrelevent.

This reminds me of a line from the 1988 movie Off Limits by the Fred Ward
character. "You guys are floating in a rowboat in a cesspool full of
turds, and you look down at one turd and say 'That turd p#$(%^s me off!,
I'm gonna do something about that turd!'"

(I could have resisted, but didn't want to)

On Monday, March 16, 2009 3:28 PM ColTom2 wrote:


Hi;

I would like to defrag the following file
"C:\Windows\System32\CatRoot2\tmp.edb" with Sysinternals Contig v1.55.

I extracted the file Contig.exe from the Sysinternals Suite to my
Desktop,
but when I click on it the Command Prompt screen briefly appears and then
is
gone.

How can I use this application to defrag the file listed above? Please
give me specific instructions.

Thanks,

ColTom2



On Monday, March 16, 2009 3:44 PM Pegasus [MVP] wrote:


"ColTom2" wrote in message
...

You need to perform the first debugging step yourself, by making all
messages visible:
1. Click Start
2. Type the three letters cmd
3. Click OK
4. Type the command you wish to execute, e.g.
desktop\contig.exe
5. Read the message(s) you see.



On Monday, March 16, 2009 3:58 PM ColTom2 wrote:


I cannot get your instructions to work from the CMD Prompt.

ColTom2


"Pegasus [MVP]" wrote in message
...

"ColTom2" wrote in message
...

You need to perform the first debugging step yourself, by making all
messages visible:
1. Click Start
2. Type the three letters cmd
3. Click OK
4. Type the command you wish to execute, e.g.
desktop\contig.exe
5. Read the message(s) you see.



On Monday, March 16, 2009 3:59 PM John Wunderlich wrote:


Step 1.5: Click "Run".

-- John



On Monday, March 16, 2009 4:06 PM Pegasus [MVP] wrote:


Oops . . . Thank you.



On Monday, March 16, 2009 4:41 PM ColTom2 wrote:


Thanks, as your instructions worked! But the file still cannot be
defragged
for some reason.

ColTom2


"meerkat" wrote in message
...

"ColTom2" wrote in message
...
Are you ready ?. Then we`ll begin.
Start / Run , and type in CMD
Now you are in the Command window.
Open SI Contig, by highlighting, and drag it into the
command window.
Then add the full path to you file...
C:\Windows\System32\CatRoot2\tmp.edb
Leave a space between the two items.
bw..



On Monday, March 16, 2009 5:03 PM Bob I wrote:


Perhaps start in Safe Mode and just delete it.

ColTom2 wrote:



On Monday, March 16, 2009 7:36 PM ColTom2 wrote:


It seems that you cannot do anything with this file
"C:\Windows\System32\CatRoot2\tmp.edb". You cannot delete, copy,
transfer,
defrag, or anything else. It's like a "stealth" file and the only
Windows
file that I have ever seen like this.

Very unique file to say the least.....

ColTom2

"Bob I" wrote in message
...
Perhaps start in Safe Mode and just delete it.

ColTom2 wrote:



On Monday, March 16, 2009 7:50 PM ColTom2 wrote:


I should have explained further what I meant by "Stealth"
mode....the file
does not appear in Safemode.

ColTom2


"ColTom2" wrote in message
...
It seems that you cannot do anything with this file
"C:\Windows\System32\CatRoot2\tmp.edb". You cannot delete, copy,
transfer,
defrag, or anything else. It's like a "stealth" file and the only
Windows
file that I have ever seen like this.

Very unique file to say the least.....

ColTom2

"Bob I" wrote in message
...
Perhaps start in Safe Mode and just delete it.

ColTom2 wrote:



On Monday, March 16, 2009 8:03 PM ju.c wrote:


You'll like this:

"Power Defragmenter is a GUI (Graphic User Interface)
application
for program Contig by Sysinternals. Contig is a very powerful
defragmentation application designed for Windows NT/2000/XP
operating systems. Please take a few minutes and check
Sysinternals
webpage for other cool programs. Contig created by Mark
Russinovich
and Bryce Cogswell."

Power Defragmenter 410 KB (Freeware)
http://cid-94a12102e5094675.skydrive...fragmenter.zip


ju.c


"ColTom2" wrote in message
...



On Monday, March 16, 2009 8:20 PM SPAMCOP User wrote:


If you downloaded it from the authors website you would see the
instructions
of use. Here is the website:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb897428.aspx

--
SPAMCOP User



On Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 PM Ian D wrote:


"ColTom2" wrote in message
...
The reason you can't see it in SafeMode is because the file is
not there. It's deleted when XP shuts down. It's a temporary
workspace for processing information exchange transactions.
If you check Catroot2 immediately after a normal boot up,
tmp.edb
probably won't be there. It will be created when required.



On Monday, March 16, 2009 8:51 PM meerkat wrote:


"ColTom2" wrote in message
...
Are you ready ?. Then we`ll begin.
Start / Run , and type in CMD
Now you are in the Command window.
Open SI Contig, by highlighting, and drag it into the
command window.
Then add the full path to you file...
C:\Windows\System32\CatRoot2\tmp.edb
Leave a space between the two items.
bw..



On Monday, March 16, 2009 9:01 PM ColTom2 wrote:


Hi Ian:

I have always found it in the listed file string after
reboot. The file is
always the same size 1,032kb. Also apparently when it is
rebuilt the file is
fragmented for whatever reason, as Windows Defrag cannot
currently Defrag
this file on my laptop.

I have a Sony desktop running XP Pro SP3 with this file
and have no
problems with Windows Defrag running through to completion,
but my Toshiba
laptop XP Home SP3 will not run through the Defrag to
completion.

I have fixed this problem once or twice before, but I
never really found
exactly what allowed me to run Windows Defrag to completion
sometimes while
other times not. If I ever update Java to a new edition I
always normally
have this Defrag problem with either of the computers.

Maybe you have an answer?

ColTom2

P.S. I appreciate your info about this file that you sent.


"Ian D" wrote in message
...

"ColTom2" wrote in message
...
The reason you can't see it in SafeMode is because the file
is
not there. It's deleted when XP shuts down. It's a
temporary
workspace for processing information exchange transactions.
If you check Catroot2 immediately after a normal boot up,
tmp.edb
probably won't be there. It will be created when required.



On Monday, March 16, 2009 9:49 PM HeyBub wrote:


ColTom2 wrote:

It is useless to tell what the computer does NOT do. Always
provide what the
computer DOES do.



On Monday, March 16, 2009 10:10 PM ColTom2 wrote:


Now this is a "Hummer"! I am impressed....

Thanks!

ColTom2


"ju.c" wrote in message
...
You'll like this:

"Power Defragmenter is a GUI (Graphic User Interface)
application
for program Contig by Sysinternals. Contig is a very
powerful
defragmentation application designed for Windows
NT/2000/XP
operating systems. Please take a few minutes and check
Sysinternals
webpage for other cool programs. Contig created by Mark
Russinovich
and Bryce Cogswell."

Power Defragmenter 410 KB (Freeware)
http://cid-94a12102e5094675.skydrive...fragmenter.zip


ju.c


"ColTom2" wrote in message
...



On Monday, March 16, 2009 10:26 PM Twayne wrote:


ColTom2 wrote:

I suspect a normal defrag operation cannot touch it
because it's in use.
I don't know how to tell when it's in use and when it's
not, but I'd
suggest that maybe it lets defrage run OK on Pro but not
on Home would
be due to some inconsistancy between the two, because a
file simply
being "in use" shouldn't prevent defrag from completing,
AFAIK.

It's also interesting to me that it's created fragmented.
Since it's
only a 1 Meg file, it seems like there shouldn't be
anything to cause it
to be fragmented upon creation unless the disk is full or
thinks it's
full. It's just a database so there about has to be
something else
going on there. Got access to any other Pro/Home
machines to see if the
pattern is repeatable?

No help I know, but perhaps some musings that might
trigger something.

Cheers,

Twayne



On Monday, March 16, 2009 10:35 PM Ian D wrote:


"ColTom2" wrote in message
...
The problem with tmp.edb is that it always seems to be
in use,
so you can't touch it to move, delete, or defrag it.
Other than
that, it just has normal file attributes. Also, I've
found its
behaviour to be not always consistent. On my main XP
Pro,
the file disappeared after reboot, and has not returned
as of
now. The same has happened with my laptop with XP Pro.

I have another desktop with XP Pro, and when XP was
started,
tmp.edb was there, displaying the time of the startup. I
rebooted,
and now it's gone, weird.

Your situation is where a multi-boot comes in handy. If
you
have problematic files, boot into the other OS and you
have
full access to the first OS's partition for deleting,
defragmenting,
etc.



On Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:01 AM Bob I wrote:


Then it does not "need defragging".

ColTom2 wrote:



On Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:19 AM R. McCarty wrote:


That database file is created as part of the bootup
sequence. Usually it
averages around ~1.0 Megabyte. Windows will have open
file handle(s)
to the file so it's not something you can delete or
possibly modify with a
defrag utility. I can't say for sure, but based on
it's location I'd guess
it is
a component of Windows Automatic updates.

"Bob I" wrote in message
...



On Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:58 PM ColTom2 wrote:


I think you are right about it being a component of
WU.... if I recall
reading it correctly somewhere.

ColTom2

"R. McCarty" wrote
in message
...
That database file is created as part of the bootup
sequence. Usually it
averages around ~1.0 Megabyte. Windows will have open
file handle(s)
to the file so it's not something you can delete or
possibly modify with a
defrag utility. I can't say for sure, but based on
it's location I'd guess
it is
a component of Windows Automatic updates.

"Bob I" wrote in message
...



On Tuesday, March 17, 2009 6:36 PM Ian D wrote:


"ColTom2" wrote in
message
...

To get rid of tmp.edb, disable the Automatic Updates
service, and
make sure the Distributed Transaction Coordinator
service is set
to manual, then reboot. After reboot tmp.edb will
either be gone,
or accessible. The other edb.* files are also now
accessible and can
be deleted. The tmp.edb is used for Windows update
transactions.



On Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:27 PM ColTom2 wrote:


Hi Ian:

You have provided more info about this file than
anyone. I am proud of
you!

I assume that if you change the settings back to
Automatic Updates and
Distributed Transactions Coordinator that Windows
will build the file back
to the same status that it is currently.

I still am amazed that you found this info, as I
have looked high and low
off an on for a good period of time.

Thanks so much and a BIG salute to you!

ColTom2




"Ian D" wrote in message
...

"ColTom2" wrote in
message
...

To get rid of tmp.edb, disable the Automatic
Updates service, and
make sure the Distributed Transaction Coordinator
service is set
to manual, then reboot. After reboot tmp.edb will
either be gone,
or accessible. The other edb.* files are also now
accessible and can
be deleted. The tmp.edb is used for Windows update
transactions.



On Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:33 AM 3c273 wrote:


low
And now you have wasted 2 days of your life trying
to defrag a 1MB file that
gets deleted on shutdown.
(Sorry, could not resist.)
Louis



On Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:00 PM ColTom2
wrote:


I'll close by saying that Ian answered the
question and it certainly was
not you.

Bet you learned a little something in the
process....(I could say sour
grapes, couldn't resist.)

ColTom2


"3c273" wrote in message
...
"ColTom2" wrote in
message
...
low
And now you've wasted 2 days of your life trying
to defrag a 1MB file that
gets deleted on shutdown.
(Sorry, couldn't resist.)
Louis



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On 10/03/10 10:29 AM, Rick V wrote:
I have to agree with Louis. 2 days to get an answer about how to defrag a 1mb file, that cannot possibly be defragmented, because it is not accessible when created, but is not created if you turn off the auto updates. I guess you could go so far as to dual boot your system, just to find that, because you didn't boot into your Windows OS, the file was never created, hence cannot be defragmented. Sounds like the 'ol catch 22 scenario. I believe you are right, we all learned something in this process (with the apparent exception of ColTom2). I know that I learned that there is no limit to the length of time a person will waste to solve a problem that is

a) So insignificant that it warrants no thought
b) Is not really possible since the file is either there and not accessible, or not there so irrelevent.

This reminds me of a line from the 1988 movie Off Limits by the Fred Ward character. "You guys are floating in a rowboat in a cesspool full of turds, and you look down at one turd and say 'That turd p#$(%^s me off!, I'm gonna do something about that turd!'"

(I could have resisted, but didn't want to)

On Monday, March 16, 2009 3:28 PM ColTom2 wrote:


What a moron you are.... did you even look at WHEN those messages were
written?

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