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Task Manager acting funny
I have 3 problems that I think might be related because they all showed up at
about the same time. 1. Windows Media Player does not close when I exit the program. Audio continues playing. I have to goto Task MNGR to close it. Also It doesn't give me the controlls in my task bar anymore. 2. pressing CTRL - ALT - DEL does not open task mngr. I have to goto my task bar to open it. 3. task mngr reports my processor at 20% usage 24-7, but it doesn't list any programs utilizing the processor. The idle process only reports 9%. I have used 3 programs to scan for malware/spyware and nothing has shown up. All 3 of these showed up soon after upgrading to SP3. I don't know if that could be the cause. I don't use this computer for much besides word processing, internet, and watching movies but I hate to do a system reinstall. Doing a system restore doesn't seem to work either. Any suggestions would be appreciated. These may be 3 different problems but like I said, they all showed up at about the same time. AMD Athalon XP 2000, 512Mg DDR 333, ATI All In Wounder 2000, SB Live Pro, Disabled Belkin Wireless 502.11g adapter, all on a K7S5A motherboard running Windows XP Pro Student Edition w/ SP3 installed. (NOTE: Ubuntu Linux 8.04 is running smooth on another HD not currently in the system. Tried removing it while troubleshooting) I'm stumped. |
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Task Manager acting funny
What 3 programmes did you use to check for malware?
What errors appear in Event Viewer? You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel, Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description are important. HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from Event Viewer. -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MGaddict wrote: I have 3 problems that I think might be related because they all showed up at about the same time. 1. Windows Media Player does not close when I exit the program. Audio continues playing. I have to goto Task MNGR to close it. Also It doesn't give me the controlls in my task bar anymore. 2. pressing CTRL - ALT - DEL does not open task mngr. I have to goto my task bar to open it. 3. task mngr reports my processor at 20% usage 24-7, but it doesn't list any programs utilizing the processor. The idle process only reports 9%. I have used 3 programs to scan for malware/spyware and nothing has shown up. All 3 of these showed up soon after upgrading to SP3. I don't know if that could be the cause. I don't use this computer for much besides word processing, internet, and watching movies but I hate to do a system reinstall. Doing a system restore doesn't seem to work either. Any suggestions would be appreciated. These may be 3 different problems but like I said, they all showed up at about the same time. AMD Athalon XP 2000, 512Mg DDR 333, ATI All In Wounder 2000, SB Live Pro, Disabled Belkin Wireless 502.11g adapter, all on a K7S5A motherboard running Windows XP Pro Student Edition w/ SP3 installed. (NOTE: Ubuntu Linux 8.04 is running smooth on another HD not currently in the system. Tried removing it while troubleshooting) I'm stumped. |
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Task Manager acting funny
This is the only error reported for the last month. It shows up about 2x a
day. DCOM got error "The service cannot be started, either because it is disabled or because it has no enabled devices associated with it. " attempting to start the service MDM with arguments "" in order to run the server: {0C0A3666-30C9-11D0-8F20-00805F2CD064} This warning shows up at what appears to be random times every day, but I never have a problem with the internet. That's something else I checked that when I'm not using the internet, nothing else seems to be either. (Thank God) I checked that first. Your computer was not able to renew its address from the network (from the DHCP Server) for the Network Card with network address 0007954597D1. The following error occurred: The semaphore timeout period has expired. . Your computer will continue to try and obtain an address on its own from the network address (DHCP) server. I could find the names of them but its been a while, honestly I use AVG and windows defender all the time. I don't use any other 3rd party software on a regular basis unless I have a problem. I've not found AVG and windows defender to let anything into my system in a really long time and it was because my daughter clicked on a link she shouldn't have, that one caused me to end up reinstalling windows. I just hate to do that again. So I only have AVG and windows defender currently running but this problem has been here since about a week or 2 after I upgraded to SP3. I've been dealing with this for a while now, its just gotten on my nerves to the point that something has to be done. "Gerry" wrote: What 3 programmes did you use to check for malware? What errors appear in Event Viewer? You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel, Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description are important. HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from Event Viewer. -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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The service MDM is the Machine Debug Manager. The recommended setting is
Manual. http://www.theeldergeek.com/machine_debug_manager.htm Select Start, Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Services. Place the cursor on the MDM service in the list, right click and select Properties. If not showing the Start Up type as Manual change it to that. Restart the computer and check later to see if the error message recurs. The suggestion above may or may not solve the problem but I do not think the error should cause Task Manager to act funny. Can you explain in more detail what you mean by "funny". I use Windows Defender but I do not consider it to be a strong player. I would download and run Spybot S & D (freeware version) and see if it finds anything like a Trojan. If Spybot S & D finds anything significant ( other than cookies) you need to be wary. If it removes something and it returns or another nasty pops up it can be an indication that there is another hidden nasty not being detected by AVG or Spybot. Spybot S & D. There is a freeware version buried in this link: http://www.safer-networking.org/en/spybotsd/index.html -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MGaddict wrote: This is the only error reported for the last month. It shows up about 2x a day. DCOM got error "The service cannot be started, either because it is disabled or because it has no enabled devices associated with it. " attempting to start the service MDM with arguments "" in order to run the server: {0C0A3666-30C9-11D0-8F20-00805F2CD064} This warning shows up at what appears to be random times every day, but I never have a problem with the internet. That's something else I checked that when I'm not using the internet, nothing else seems to be either. (Thank God) I checked that first. Your computer was not able to renew its address from the network (from the DHCP Server) for the Network Card with network address 0007954597D1. The following error occurred: The semaphore timeout period has expired. . Your computer will continue to try and obtain an address on its own from the network address (DHCP) server. I could find the names of them but its been a while, honestly I use AVG and windows defender all the time. I don't use any other 3rd party software on a regular basis unless I have a problem. I've not found AVG and windows defender to let anything into my system in a really long time and it was because my daughter clicked on a link she shouldn't have, that one caused me to end up reinstalling windows. I just hate to do that again. So I only have AVG and windows defender currently running but this problem has been here since about a week or 2 after I upgraded to SP3. I've been dealing with this for a while now, its just gotten on my nerves to the point that something has to be done. "Gerry" wrote: What 3 programmes did you use to check for malware? What errors appear in Event Viewer? You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel, Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description are important. HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from Event Viewer. -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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If this helps....
alg.exe LOCAL SERVICE ati2evxx.exe SYSTEM ati2evxx.exe SYSTEM atidtct.exe Goeller avgrsx.exe SYSTEM avgtray.exe Goeller avgwdsvc.exe SYSTEM CCC.exe Goeller csrss.exe SYSTEM ctfmon.exe Goeller devldr32.exe Goeller E_S40RP7.exe SYSTEM explorer.exe Goeller firefox.exe Goeller lsass.exe SYSTEM MOM.exe Goeller MSCamS32.exe SYSTEM PWRISOVM.exe Goeller services.exe SYSTEM smss.exe SYSTEM spoolsv.exe SYSTEM svchost.exe SYSTEM svchost.exe SYSTEM svchost.exe NETWORK SERVICE svchost.exe SYSTEM svchost.exe NETWORK SERVICE svchost.exe LOCAL SERVICE svchost.exe SYSTEM System SYSTEM System Idle Process SYSTEM taskmgr.exe Goeller ViewpointServices.exe SYSTEM winlogon.exe SYSTEM WLService.exe SYSTEM WMP54Gv4.exe SYSTEM |
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Task Manager acting funny
Well I mean funny because the tskmgr is showing nothing using the CPU or only
a program using 1% but then says 20% of the CPU is in use 24/7. That tells me something is running that's not being reported on tskmgr. I"ll try the program suggested but because the internet is not being used at all, I'm not suspecting spy ware at all. the process runs even if the internet is disconnected. and MDM is on manual. I'm curious because if Windows Media Player isn't closing when I tell it too, what else might not close either? Could it be something in the startup that doesn't close correctly? And why doesn't CTRL-ALT-DEL work? (The keys work fine, I've tested the keyboard on my laptop) Its just so strange and I keep ending up back staring at tskmgr. I'm going to keep digging, check out some of these other processes settings, and I"ll try your suggestion. "Gerry" wrote: The service MDM is the Machine Debug Manager. The recommended setting is Manual. http://www.theeldergeek.com/machine_debug_manager.htm Select Start, Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Services. Place the cursor on the MDM service in the list, right click and select Properties. If not showing the Start Up type as Manual change it to that. Restart the computer and check later to see if the error message recurs. The suggestion above may or may not solve the problem but I do not think the error should cause Task Manager to act funny. Can you explain in more detail what you mean by "funny". I use Windows Defender but I do not consider it to be a strong player. I would download and run Spybot S & D (freeware version) and see if it finds anything like a Trojan. If Spybot S & D finds anything significant ( other than cookies) you need to be wary. If it removes something and it returns or another nasty pops up it can be an indication that there is another hidden nasty not being detected by AVG or Spybot. Spybot S & D. There is a freeware version buried in this link: http://www.safer-networking.org/en/spybotsd/index.html -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MGaddict wrote: This is the only error reported for the last month. It shows up about 2x a day. DCOM got error "The service cannot be started, either because it is disabled or because it has no enabled devices associated with it. " attempting to start the service MDM with arguments "" in order to run the server: {0C0A3666-30C9-11D0-8F20-00805F2CD064} This warning shows up at what appears to be random times every day, but I never have a problem with the internet. That's something else I checked that when I'm not using the internet, nothing else seems to be either. (Thank God) I checked that first. Your computer was not able to renew its address from the network (from the DHCP Server) for the Network Card with network address 0007954597D1. The following error occurred: The semaphore timeout period has expired. . Your computer will continue to try and obtain an address on its own from the network address (DHCP) server. I could find the names of them but its been a while, honestly I use AVG and windows defender all the time. I don't use any other 3rd party software on a regular basis unless I have a problem. I've not found AVG and windows defender to let anything into my system in a really long time and it was because my daughter clicked on a link she shouldn't have, that one caused me to end up reinstalling windows. I just hate to do that again. So I only have AVG and windows defender currently running but this problem has been here since about a week or 2 after I upgraded to SP3. I've been dealing with this for a while now, its just gotten on my nerves to the point that something has to be done. "Gerry" wrote: What 3 programmes did you use to check for malware? What errors appear in Event Viewer? You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel, Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description are important. HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from Event Viewer. -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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MGaddict
Do you leave your computer on 24/7? If the internet is not being used how are you updating your software? Windows Updates, Virus Definition updates etc? -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MGaddict wrote: Well I mean funny because the tskmgr is showing nothing using the CPU or only a program using 1% but then says 20% of the CPU is in use 24/7. That tells me something is running that's not being reported on tskmgr. I"ll try the program suggested but because the internet is not being used at all, I'm not suspecting spy ware at all. the process runs even if the internet is disconnected. and MDM is on manual. I'm curious because if Windows Media Player isn't closing when I tell it too, what else might not close either? Could it be something in the startup that doesn't close correctly? And why doesn't CTRL-ALT-DEL work? (The keys work fine, I've tested the keyboard on my laptop) Its just so strange and I keep ending up back staring at tskmgr. I'm going to keep digging, check out some of these other processes settings, and I"ll try your suggestion. "Gerry" wrote: The service MDM is the Machine Debug Manager. The recommended setting is Manual. http://www.theeldergeek.com/machine_debug_manager.htm Select Start, Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Services. Place the cursor on the MDM service in the list, right click and select Properties. If not showing the Start Up type as Manual change it to that. Restart the computer and check later to see if the error message recurs. The suggestion above may or may not solve the problem but I do not think the error should cause Task Manager to act funny. Can you explain in more detail what you mean by "funny". I use Windows Defender but I do not consider it to be a strong player. I would download and run Spybot S & D (freeware version) and see if it finds anything like a Trojan. If Spybot S & D finds anything significant ( other than cookies) you need to be wary. If it removes something and it returns or another nasty pops up it can be an indication that there is another hidden nasty not being detected by AVG or Spybot. Spybot S & D. There is a freeware version buried in this link: http://www.safer-networking.org/en/spybotsd/index.html -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MGaddict wrote: This is the only error reported for the last month. It shows up about 2x a day. DCOM got error "The service cannot be started, either because it is disabled or because it has no enabled devices associated with it. " attempting to start the service MDM with arguments "" in order to run the server: {0C0A3666-30C9-11D0-8F20-00805F2CD064} This warning shows up at what appears to be random times every day, but I never have a problem with the internet. That's something else I checked that when I'm not using the internet, nothing else seems to be either. (Thank God) I checked that first. Your computer was not able to renew its address from the network (from the DHCP Server) for the Network Card with network address 0007954597D1. The following error occurred: The semaphore timeout period has expired. . Your computer will continue to try and obtain an address on its own from the network address (DHCP) server. I could find the names of them but its been a while, honestly I use AVG and windows defender all the time. I don't use any other 3rd party software on a regular basis unless I have a problem. I've not found AVG and windows defender to let anything into my system in a really long time and it was because my daughter clicked on a link she shouldn't have, that one caused me to end up reinstalling windows. I just hate to do that again. So I only have AVG and windows defender currently running but this problem has been here since about a week or 2 after I upgraded to SP3. I've been dealing with this for a while now, its just gotten on my nerves to the point that something has to be done. "Gerry" wrote: What 3 programmes did you use to check for malware? What errors appear in Event Viewer? You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel, Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description are important. HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from Event Viewer. -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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What I mean by the internet is not being used is that I've found that spy
ware and especially Trojans will use the internet to access your computer and your system will be working when your not using it and the internet will be in use as well. I do have automatic updates and my virus scanner updates sometimes a few times in a single day. Those programs have access and use it, but I have nothing accessing it that I have not specifically desired. Programs such as Real Player and what not don't do automatic updates because that's just crap you don't need running in the background. I am very specific about what I allow to run and what I don't. I don't like anything doing anything without my say so. This is an older computer and up until this processor thing, the system still ran really well but since 20% of the processor is being utilized by some unknown source, that's 20% less processor for the system to use on simple things like opening a program and therefore creates un needed lag. |
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