odd Restart behavior

Often, when I click to Restart Windows, I get a screen that reports that
some program is still running. The message tells me to click Cancel and
finish working with the recalcitrant program or click Restart Anyway. I
have *never* had clicking Cancel do anything but immediately restart, just
as if I'd clicked Restart Anyway. ?

On Thu, 8 Jun 2017 22:10:08 -0400, Jason
wrote:

Often, when I click to Restart Windows, I get a screen that reports that
some program is still running. The message tells me to click Cancel and
finish working with the recalcitrant program or click Restart Anyway. I
have *never* had clicking Cancel do anything but immediately restart, just
as if I'd clicked Restart Anyway. ?

Happening with me all the time as well. Clicking cancel starts the
restart anyway.

Jason wrote:
Often, when I click to Restart Windows, I get a screen that reports that
some program is still running. The message tells me to click Cancel and
finish working with the recalcitrant program or click Restart Anyway. I
have *never* had clicking Cancel do anything but immediately restart, just
as if I'd clicked Restart Anyway. ?


I'm seeing this on the Insider Edition too.

I think at one time, it did actually Cancel. It
wasn't always broken.

Paul

Jason wrote:

Often, when I click to Restart Windows, I get a screen that reports that
some program is still running. The message tells me to click Cancel and
finish working with the recalcitrant program or click Restart Anyway. I
have *never* had clicking Cancel do anything but immediately restart, just
as if I'd clicked Restart Anyway. ?

Means the process that received a *request* to exit was slow to respond.
The dialog showed up to prompt you about the slow responding process but
by the time you get to see the prompt, read it, and click on a button
that process got around to finally exiting.

I've seen this many times with MS Outlook on a shutdown. It takes too
long to respond and to exit so Windows shows an alert. I could do a
force (kill) on the outlook.exe process or just wait longer for the
process to get around to exiting on its own.

There is a registry entry to wait longer for processes to respond to the
request to exit and then get around to exiting. That just means the
shutdown process will take longer while it waits longer.

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/.../cc978624.aspx
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/.../cc976045.aspx

If the data item is missing, its default value gets used.

http://winaero.com/blog/speed-up-slo...in-windows-10/

Shortening these values means you could get prompted before the process
that is exiting gets to complete that task, so you end up killing it
using the prompt which means its database(s) or file(s) do not get
closed gracefully possibly resulting in data corruption.

VanguardLH wrote:

Jason wrote:

Often, when I click to Restart Windows, I get a screen
that reports that some program is still running. The
message tells me to click Cancel and finish working with
the recalcitrant program or click Restart Anyway. I have
*never* had clicking Cancel do anything but immediately
restart, just as if I'd clicked Restart Anyway. ?

Means the process that received a *request* to exit was
slow to respond. The dialog showed up to prompt you about
the slow responding process but by the time you get to see
the prompt, read it, and click on a button that process got
around to finally exiting.

That seems likely. Give it a few seconds. During that time,
note which programs is holding up the restart. If it does not
require user saving data, then it might just be having
trouble shutting down.

John Doe wrote:
VanguardLH wrote:

Jason wrote:

Often, when I click to Restart Windows, I get a screen
that reports that some program is still running. The
message tells me to click Cancel and finish working with
the recalcitrant program or click Restart Anyway. I have
*never* had clicking Cancel do anything but immediately
restart, just as if I'd clicked Restart Anyway. ?
Means the process that received a *request* to exit was
slow to respond. The dialog showed up to prompt you about
the slow responding process but by the time you get to see
the prompt, read it, and click on a button that process got
around to finally exiting.

That seems likely. Give it a few seconds. During that time,
note which programs is holding up the restart. If it does not
require user saving data, then it might just be having
trouble shutting down.

The time constants involved here, are *not* the
traditional values. The behavior is wacky, but not
that wacky for a beta-quality OS.

I think it would be more "fun", if the dialog in
question had two OK buttons instead.
______ ______
/ OK \ / OK \
\______/ \______/

Then the user would not feel quite so uncomfortable
clicking OK.

Paul

Paul wrote:

John Doe wrote:
VanguardLH wrote:
Jason wrote:

Often, when I click to Restart Windows, I get a screen
that reports that some program is still running. The
message tells me to click Cancel and finish working with
the recalcitrant program or click Restart Anyway. I have
*never* had clicking Cancel do anything but immediately
restart, just as if I'd clicked Restart Anyway. ?

Means the process that received a *request* to exit was
slow to respond. The dialog showed up to prompt you about
the slow responding process but by the time you get to
see the prompt, read it, and click on a button that
process got around to finally exiting.

That seems likely. Give it a few seconds. During that
time, note which programs is holding up the restart. If it
does not require user saving data, then it might just be
having trouble shutting down.

The time constants involved here, are *not* the traditional
values. The behavior is wacky, but not that wacky for a
beta-quality OS.

I think it would be more "fun", if the dialog in question
had two OK buttons instead.
______ ______
/ OK \ / OK \ \______/ \______/

Then the user would not feel quite so uncomfortable
clicking OK.

There is no reason to mess with it anyway. I have two clearly
labeled taskbar button shortcuts to batch files, one for
restarting and the other for shutting down. When I want to
shut down or restart, I click one of those buttons. Shut down
or restart happens. Programs have 12 seconds to close.

taskkill /im natspeak.exe /t /f
shutdown /r /t 12

taskkill /im natspeak.exe /t /f
shutdown /s /t 12

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/.../bb491009.aspx (taskkill)

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/.../bb491003.aspx (shutdown)

The difficult part is putting the shortcut on the taskbar and
changing the icon.