backing up two computers

Jo-Anne wrote:
Thank you, Al! Actually, images are what I'm doing too--with Acronis True
Image. You can do incrementals with this program. I'm guessing that Dave
is
cloning his drive; hence one image per drive (or, I've been told, per
partitition).

I think you mean one *clone* per partition (if and only if one is using
CLONING),
at least as I understand it. So if you were using CLONING to store
multiple backups from different dates, you would have to have a new
partition (and drive letter) for each one on that same backup drive (which
seems to me to be a bit of a nuisance).

OR you can use True Image and IMAGING, to put several images into ONE
partition (each identified with a different numbered filename), which is
what I've been doing, and is generally why I prefer imaging.

However, the tradeoff with imaging is you have to restore the image back to
the source drive to be able to use it. But, this way I never need to
remove the internal source drive for my software tests or experiments that
occasionally go astray. (Of course if the source drive were to die and I
wanted to replace it, a cloned disk would be simpler to get up and running)

I like the idea of being able to put multiple images on one
external drive and can only hope that they restore OK in an emergency.

Jo-Anne

"Big_Al" wrote in message
...
Jo-Anne wrote:
Thank you again!

Jo-Anne

"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
...
All imaging is of the current installation, and totally replaces the
original it overwrites in my case.

--
Dave

"Jo-Anne" wrote in message
...
Thank you, Dave! Are all your backups full ones, or do you do
incrementals too?

Jo-Anne

"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
...
"Jo-Anne" wrote in message
...
I'm currently backing up my desktop XP SP3 computer to two external
hard drives with Acronis True Image. I'm planning to buy the program
for my new laptop as well (currently XP SP2 but will install SP3
soon). How do others handle backups from two computers? Do you
dedicate separate external drives to each computer or do backups to
the same drives from different computers? If the latter, do you just
store the backups in different folders?

Thanks much!

Jo-Anne

Currently, I am only using one PC. However, I sometimes boot off an
insertable hard drive.

For the onboard, I use one external hard drive for image backups.
For the external, I use yet another external hard drive for image
backups.
In each case, I keep the original installation as an image at the
root
of each external backup hard drive.

Further, I use 5 separate folders for each week of the month on each
external hard drive for backups. As a result, I have a month's worth
of image backups at all times.

Using DriveImage 7 and firewire for backup external hard drives.
--
Dave






Note Jo-Anne, he is imaging the drive, not doing backups of files and
folders. An image is IMO, a much simpler and thorough way to backup.
If
he was doing backups, you could do incrementals too.

I've used the verify/validate function, which takes forever (and the more
backup images on the drive, the longer it takes, since it apparently can't
validate only the current image--or so people on the Acronis forum say).
However, some people have reported that even validated images sometimes
don't restore. One way to check--and I haven't done it yet--is to mount an
image and copy some of its files to the hard drive to see if they open OK.
At least that gets closer to a true restore.

Jo-Anne

"Big_Al" wrote in message
...
Jo-Anne wrote:
Thank you, Al! Actually, images are what I'm doing too--with Acronis True
Image. You can do incrementals with this program. I'm guessing that Dave
is cloning his drive; hence one image per drive (or, I've been told, per
partitition). I like the idea of being able to put multiple images on one
external drive and can only hope that they restore OK in an emergency.

Jo-Anne

"Big_Al" wrote in message
...
Jo-Anne wrote:
Thank you again!

Jo-Anne

"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
...
All imaging is of the current installation, and totally replaces the
original it overwrites in my case.

--
Dave

"Jo-Anne" wrote in message
...
Thank you, Dave! Are all your backups full ones, or do you do
incrementals too?

Jo-Anne

"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
...
"Jo-Anne" wrote in message
...
I'm currently backing up my desktop XP SP3 computer to two external
hard drives with Acronis True Image. I'm planning to buy the
program for my new laptop as well (currently XP SP2 but will
install SP3 soon). How do others handle backups from two computers?
Do you dedicate separate external drives to each computer or do
backups to the same drives from different computers? If the latter,
do you just store the backups in different folders?

Thanks much!

Jo-Anne

Currently, I am only using one PC. However, I sometimes boot off an
insertable hard drive.

For the onboard, I use one external hard drive for image backups.
For the external, I use yet another external hard drive for image
backups.
In each case, I keep the original installation as an image at the
root of each external backup hard drive.

Further, I use 5 separate folders for each week of the month on each
external hard drive for backups. As a result, I have a month's
worth of image backups at all times.

Using DriveImage 7 and firewire for backup external hard drives.
--
Dave



Note Jo-Anne, he is imaging the drive, not doing backups of files and
folders. An image is IMO, a much simpler and thorough way to backup.
If he was doing backups, you could do incrementals too.




There is a verify function, not sure if it does much, but I've had the
same question. I use ATI to backup my AMD machine before SP3 since AMD
processors had a big SP3 issue. I tested that image to make sure. I was
paranoid, it was my wife's PC. I'd be dead if I messed it up. :-)

You're right, Bill! I did mean one clone per partition--and I agree that
imaging is easier over all. I have a friend who has used Acronis for at
least a few years and periodically has restored to a brand new internal
drive without a glitch.

Jo-Anne

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
Jo-Anne wrote:
Thank you, Al! Actually, images are what I'm doing too--with Acronis True
Image. You can do incrementals with this program. I'm guessing that Dave
is
cloning his drive; hence one image per drive (or, I've been told, per
partitition).

I think you mean one *clone* per partition (if and only if one is using
CLONING),
at least as I understand it. So if you were using CLONING to store
multiple backups from different dates, you would have to have a new
partition (and drive letter) for each one on that same backup drive (which
seems to me to be a bit of a nuisance).

OR you can use True Image and IMAGING, to put several images into ONE
partition (each identified with a different numbered filename), which is
what I've been doing, and is generally why I prefer imaging.

However, the tradeoff with imaging is you have to restore the image back
to the source drive to be able to use it. But, this way I never need to
remove the internal source drive for my software tests or experiments that
occasionally go astray. (Of course if the source drive were to die and I
wanted to replace it, a cloned disk would be simpler to get up and
running)

I like the idea of being able to put multiple images on one
external drive and can only hope that they restore OK in an emergency.

Jo-Anne

"Big_Al" wrote in message
...
Jo-Anne wrote:
Thank you again!

Jo-Anne

"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
...
All imaging is of the current installation, and totally replaces the
original it overwrites in my case.

--
Dave

"Jo-Anne" wrote in message
...
Thank you, Dave! Are all your backups full ones, or do you do
incrementals too?

Jo-Anne

"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
...
"Jo-Anne" wrote in message
...
I'm currently backing up my desktop XP SP3 computer to two external
hard drives with Acronis True Image. I'm planning to buy the
program
for my new laptop as well (currently XP SP2 but will install SP3
soon). How do others handle backups from two computers? Do you
dedicate separate external drives to each computer or do backups to
the same drives from different computers? If the latter, do you
just
store the backups in different folders?

Thanks much!

Jo-Anne

Currently, I am only using one PC. However, I sometimes boot off an
insertable hard drive.

For the onboard, I use one external hard drive for image backups.
For the external, I use yet another external hard drive for image
backups.
In each case, I keep the original installation as an image at the
root
of each external backup hard drive.

Further, I use 5 separate folders for each week of the month on each
external hard drive for backups. As a result, I have a month's
worth
of image backups at all times.

Using DriveImage 7 and firewire for backup external hard drives.
--
Dave






Note Jo-Anne, he is imaging the drive, not doing backups of files and
folders. An image is IMO, a much simpler and thorough way to backup.
If
he was doing backups, you could do incrementals too.

Jo-Anne wrote:
I've used the verify/validate function, which takes forever (and the more
backup images on the drive, the longer it takes, since it apparently can't
validate only the current image--or so people on the Acronis forum say).
However, some people have reported that even validated images sometimes
don't restore. One way to check--and I haven't done it yet--is to mount an
image and copy some of its files to the hard drive to see if they open OK.
At least that gets closer to a true restore.

Jo-Anne

"Big_Al" wrote in message
...
Jo-Anne wrote:
Thank you, Al! Actually, images are what I'm doing too--with Acronis True
Image. You can do incrementals with this program. I'm guessing that Dave
is cloning his drive; hence one image per drive (or, I've been told, per
partitition). I like the idea of being able to put multiple images on one
external drive and can only hope that they restore OK in an emergency.

Jo-Anne

"Big_Al" wrote in message
...
Jo-Anne wrote:
Thank you again!

Jo-Anne

"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
...
All imaging is of the current installation, and totally replaces the
original it overwrites in my case.

--
Dave

"Jo-Anne" wrote in message
...
Thank you, Dave! Are all your backups full ones, or do you do
incrementals too?

Jo-Anne

"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
...
"Jo-Anne" wrote in message
...
I'm currently backing up my desktop XP SP3 computer to two external
hard drives with Acronis True Image. I'm planning to buy the
program for my new laptop as well (currently XP SP2 but will
install SP3 soon). How do others handle backups from two computers?
Do you dedicate separate external drives to each computer or do
backups to the same drives from different computers? If the latter,
do you just store the backups in different folders?

Thanks much!

Jo-Anne

Currently, I am only using one PC. However, I sometimes boot off an
insertable hard drive.

For the onboard, I use one external hard drive for image backups.
For the external, I use yet another external hard drive for image
backups.
In each case, I keep the original installation as an image at the
root of each external backup hard drive.

Further, I use 5 separate folders for each week of the month on each
external hard drive for backups. As a result, I have a month's
worth of image backups at all times.

Using DriveImage 7 and firewire for backup external hard drives.
--
Dave


Note Jo-Anne, he is imaging the drive, not doing backups of files and
folders. An image is IMO, a much simpler and thorough way to backup.
If he was doing backups, you could do incrementals too.


There is a verify function, not sure if it does much, but I've had the
same question. I use ATI to backup my AMD machine before SP3 since AMD
processors had a big SP3 issue. I tested that image to make sure. I was
paranoid, it was my wife's PC. I'd be dead if I messed it up. :-)



You should try. I did and image for SP3 and then tested it by restoring
a single image folder with about 20 sub folders and images. All of the
thumbs.db files in each folder were corrupted. Everything else was
okay. And I got permission issues on each and could not remove them.
Using ATI of course. Still, luckily I put it on a spare drive and
wound up formatting it to get those files off. Never tried to solve
the issue since format was too simple at this point.

Not good! Have you checked in with the Acronis user forum for suggestions?

Jo-Anne

"Big_Al" wrote in message
...
Jo-Anne wrote:
I've used the verify/validate function, which takes forever (and the more
backup images on the drive, the longer it takes, since it apparently
can't validate only the current image--or so people on the Acronis forum
say). However, some people have reported that even validated images
sometimes don't restore. One way to check--and I haven't done it yet--is
to mount an image and copy some of its files to the hard drive to see if
they open OK. At least that gets closer to a true restore.

Jo-Anne

"Big_Al" wrote in message
...
Jo-Anne wrote:
Thank you, Al! Actually, images are what I'm doing too--with Acronis
True Image. You can do incrementals with this program. I'm guessing
that Dave is cloning his drive; hence one image per drive (or, I've
been told, per partitition). I like the idea of being able to put
multiple images on one external drive and can only hope that they
restore OK in an emergency.

Jo-Anne

"Big_Al" wrote in message
...
Jo-Anne wrote:
Thank you again!

Jo-Anne

"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
...
All imaging is of the current installation, and totally replaces the
original it overwrites in my case.

--
Dave

"Jo-Anne" wrote in message
...
Thank you, Dave! Are all your backups full ones, or do you do
incrementals too?

Jo-Anne

"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
...
"Jo-Anne" wrote in message
...
I'm currently backing up my desktop XP SP3 computer to two
external hard drives with Acronis True Image. I'm planning to buy
the program for my new laptop as well (currently XP SP2 but will
install SP3 soon). How do others handle backups from two
computers? Do you dedicate separate external drives to each
computer or do backups to the same drives from different
computers? If the latter, do you just store the backups in
different folders?

Thanks much!

Jo-Anne

Currently, I am only using one PC. However, I sometimes boot off
an insertable hard drive.

For the onboard, I use one external hard drive for image backups.
For the external, I use yet another external hard drive for image
backups.
In each case, I keep the original installation as an image at the
root of each external backup hard drive.

Further, I use 5 separate folders for each week of the month on
each external hard drive for backups. As a result, I have a
month's worth of image backups at all times.

Using DriveImage 7 and firewire for backup external hard drives.
--
Dave


Note Jo-Anne, he is imaging the drive, not doing backups of files and
folders. An image is IMO, a much simpler and thorough way to
backup. If he was doing backups, you could do incrementals too.


There is a verify function, not sure if it does much, but I've had the
same question. I use ATI to backup my AMD machine before SP3 since
AMD processors had a big SP3 issue. I tested that image to make sure.
I was paranoid, it was my wife's PC. I'd be dead if I messed it up.
:-)



You should try. I did and image for SP3 and then tested it by restoring a
single image folder with about 20 sub folders and images. All of the
thumbs.db files in each folder were corrupted. Everything else was okay.
And I got permission issues on each and could not remove them. Using ATI
of course. Still, luckily I put it on a spare drive and wound up
formatting it to get those files off. Never tried to solve the issue
since format was too simple at this point.

Jo-Anne wrote:
Not good! Have you checked in with the Acronis user forum for suggestions?

Jo-Anne

"Big_Al" wrote in message
...
Jo-Anne wrote:
I've used the verify/validate function, which takes forever (and the more
backup images on the drive, the longer it takes, since it apparently
can't validate only the current image--or so people on the Acronis forum
say). However, some people have reported that even validated images
sometimes don't restore. One way to check--and I haven't done it yet--is
to mount an image and copy some of its files to the hard drive to see if
they open OK. At least that gets closer to a true restore.

Jo-Anne

"Big_Al" wrote in message
...
Jo-Anne wrote:
Thank you, Al! Actually, images are what I'm doing too--with Acronis
True Image. You can do incrementals with this program. I'm guessing
that Dave is cloning his drive; hence one image per drive (or, I've
been told, per partitition). I like the idea of being able to put
multiple images on one external drive and can only hope that they
restore OK in an emergency.

Jo-Anne

"Big_Al" wrote in message
...
Jo-Anne wrote:
Thank you again!

Jo-Anne

"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
...
All imaging is of the current installation, and totally replaces the
original it overwrites in my case.

--
Dave

"Jo-Anne" wrote in message
...
Thank you, Dave! Are all your backups full ones, or do you do
incrementals too?

Jo-Anne

"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
...
"Jo-Anne" wrote in message
...
I'm currently backing up my desktop XP SP3 computer to two
external hard drives with Acronis True Image. I'm planning to buy
the program for my new laptop as well (currently XP SP2 but will
install SP3 soon). How do others handle backups from two
computers? Do you dedicate separate external drives to each
computer or do backups to the same drives from different
computers? If the latter, do you just store the backups in
different folders?

Thanks much!

Jo-Anne

Currently, I am only using one PC. However, I sometimes boot off
an insertable hard drive.

For the onboard, I use one external hard drive for image backups.
For the external, I use yet another external hard drive for image
backups.
In each case, I keep the original installation as an image at the
root of each external backup hard drive.

Further, I use 5 separate folders for each week of the month on
each external hard drive for backups. As a result, I have a
month's worth of image backups at all times.

Using DriveImage 7 and firewire for backup external hard drives.
--
Dave


Note Jo-Anne, he is imaging the drive, not doing backups of files and
folders. An image is IMO, a much simpler and thorough way to
backup. If he was doing backups, you could do incrementals too.

There is a verify function, not sure if it does much, but I've had the
same question. I use ATI to backup my AMD machine before SP3 since
AMD processors had a big SP3 issue. I tested that image to make sure.
I was paranoid, it was my wife's PC. I'd be dead if I messed it up.
:-)

You should try. I did and image for SP3 and then tested it by restoring a
single image folder with about 20 sub folders and images. All of the
thumbs.db files in each folder were corrupted. Everything else was okay.
And I got permission issues on each and could not remove them. Using ATI
of course. Still, luckily I put it on a spare drive and wound up
formatting it to get those files off. Never tried to solve the issue
since format was too simple at this point.



I'm just now trying to make a login and I plan to do so. Writing to
you reminded me and I really want to validate this.
I've used ATI Version 9 to clone drives, but this was ATI version 11
that I had issues with.
Thanks.

Lots of people are having issues with version 11. There's a new build--8101
I think--but only a few people are claiming it's helped them in any way.

Jo-Anne

"Big_Al" wrote in message
...
Jo-Anne wrote:
Not good! Have you checked in with the Acronis user forum for
suggestions?

Jo-Anne

"Big_Al" wrote in message
...
Jo-Anne wrote:
I've used the verify/validate function, which takes forever (and the
more backup images on the drive, the longer it takes, since it
apparently can't validate only the current image--or so people on the
Acronis forum say). However, some people have reported that even
validated images sometimes don't restore. One way to check--and I
haven't done it yet--is to mount an image and copy some of its files to
the hard drive to see if they open OK. At least that gets closer to a
true restore.

Jo-Anne

"Big_Al" wrote in message
...
Jo-Anne wrote:
Thank you, Al! Actually, images are what I'm doing too--with Acronis
True Image. You can do incrementals with this program. I'm guessing
that Dave is cloning his drive; hence one image per drive (or, I've
been told, per partitition). I like the idea of being able to put
multiple images on one external drive and can only hope that they
restore OK in an emergency.

Jo-Anne

"Big_Al" wrote in message
...
Jo-Anne wrote:
Thank you again!

Jo-Anne

"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
...
All imaging is of the current installation, and totally replaces
the original it overwrites in my case.

--
Dave

"Jo-Anne" wrote in message
...
Thank you, Dave! Are all your backups full ones, or do you do
incrementals too?

Jo-Anne

"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
...
"Jo-Anne" wrote in message
...
I'm currently backing up my desktop XP SP3 computer to two
external hard drives with Acronis True Image. I'm planning to
buy the program for my new laptop as well (currently XP SP2 but
will install SP3 soon). How do others handle backups from two
computers? Do you dedicate separate external drives to each
computer or do backups to the same drives from different
computers? If the latter, do you just store the backups in
different folders?

Thanks much!

Jo-Anne

Currently, I am only using one PC. However, I sometimes boot
off an insertable hard drive.

For the onboard, I use one external hard drive for image
backups.
For the external, I use yet another external hard drive for
image backups.
In each case, I keep the original installation as an image at
the root of each external backup hard drive.

Further, I use 5 separate folders for each week of the month on
each external hard drive for backups. As a result, I have a
month's worth of image backups at all times.

Using DriveImage 7 and firewire for backup external hard drives.
--
Dave


Note Jo-Anne, he is imaging the drive, not doing backups of files
and folders. An image is IMO, a much simpler and thorough way to
backup. If he was doing backups, you could do incrementals too.

There is a verify function, not sure if it does much, but I've had the
same question. I use ATI to backup my AMD machine before SP3 since
AMD processors had a big SP3 issue. I tested that image to make
sure. I was paranoid, it was my wife's PC. I'd be dead if I messed
it up. :-)

You should try. I did and image for SP3 and then tested it by restoring
a single image folder with about 20 sub folders and images. All of the
thumbs.db files in each folder were corrupted. Everything else was
okay. And I got permission issues on each and could not remove them.
Using ATI of course. Still, luckily I put it on a spare drive and
wound up formatting it to get those files off. Never tried to solve
the issue since format was too simple at this point.



I'm just now trying to make a login and I plan to do so. Writing to you
reminded me and I really want to validate this.
I've used ATI Version 9 to clone drives, but this was ATI version 11 that
I had issues with.
Thanks.

I use an older 60 GB HDD in a removable tray for a clone using Casper.
(WinXP-3 about 35GB used space) My verification is to immediately boot the
system with the just made clone and run it thru its paces etc. It is then
removed and stored and my main HDD is used until next clone is scheduled.
Even though I have ATI 11, I don't think it is that easy to "test" the image
rebuild etc ?? XP I use Casper and VistaU I use Acronis 11 having never
"tried" a rebuild yet, guess I should try at least once :-(

"Jo-Anne" wrote in message
...
Lots of people are having issues with version 11. There's a new
build--8101 I think--but only a few people are claiming it's helped them
in any way.

Jo-Anne

"Big_Al" wrote in message
...
Jo-Anne wrote:
Not good! Have you checked in with the Acronis user forum for
suggestions?

Jo-Anne

"Big_Al" wrote in message
...
Jo-Anne wrote:
I've used the verify/validate function, which takes forever (and the
more backup images on the drive, the longer it takes, since it
apparently can't validate only the current image--or so people on the
Acronis forum say). However, some people have reported that even
validated images sometimes don't restore. One way to check--and I
haven't done it yet--is to mount an image and copy some of its files
to the hard drive to see if they open OK. At least that gets closer to
a true restore.

Jo-Anne

"Big_Al" wrote in message
...
Jo-Anne wrote:
Thank you, Al! Actually, images are what I'm doing too--with Acronis
True Image. You can do incrementals with this program. I'm guessing
that Dave is cloning his drive; hence one image per drive (or, I've
been told, per partitition). I like the idea of being able to put
multiple images on one external drive and can only hope that they
restore OK in an emergency.

Jo-Anne

"Big_Al" wrote in message
...
Jo-Anne wrote:
Thank you again!

Jo-Anne

"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
...
All imaging is of the current installation, and totally replaces
the original it overwrites in my case.

--
Dave

"Jo-Anne" wrote in message
...
Thank you, Dave! Are all your backups full ones, or do you do
incrementals too?

Jo-Anne

"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
...
"Jo-Anne" wrote in message
...
I'm currently backing up my desktop XP SP3 computer to two
external hard drives with Acronis True Image. I'm planning to
buy the program for my new laptop as well (currently XP SP2
but will install SP3 soon). How do others handle backups from
two computers? Do you dedicate separate external drives to
each computer or do backups to the same drives from different
computers? If the latter, do you just store the backups in
different folders?

Thanks much!

Jo-Anne

Currently, I am only using one PC. However, I sometimes boot
off an insertable hard drive.

For the onboard, I use one external hard drive for image
backups.
For the external, I use yet another external hard drive for
image backups.
In each case, I keep the original installation as an image at
the root of each external backup hard drive.

Further, I use 5 separate folders for each week of the month on
each external hard drive for backups. As a result, I have a
month's worth of image backups at all times.

Using DriveImage 7 and firewire for backup external hard
drives.
--
Dave


Note Jo-Anne, he is imaging the drive, not doing backups of files
and folders. An image is IMO, a much simpler and thorough way to
backup. If he was doing backups, you could do incrementals too.

There is a verify function, not sure if it does much, but I've had
the same question. I use ATI to backup my AMD machine before SP3
since AMD processors had a big SP3 issue. I tested that image to
make sure. I was paranoid, it was my wife's PC. I'd be dead if I
messed it up. :-)

You should try. I did and image for SP3 and then tested it by
restoring a single image folder with about 20 sub folders and images.
All of the thumbs.db files in each folder were corrupted. Everything
else was okay. And I got permission issues on each and could not remove
them. Using ATI of course. Still, luckily I put it on a spare drive
and wound up formatting it to get those files off. Never tried to
solve the issue since format was too simple at this point.



I'm just now trying to make a login and I plan to do so. Writing to you
reminded me and I really want to validate this.
I've used ATI Version 9 to clone drives, but this was ATI version 11 that
I had issues with.
Thanks.

I have used True Image to restore a backed up image on another drive
numerous times now without incident. So I don't even bother verifying it.

Actually, when you use True Image to restore a partition, it checks it out
first (but how thoroughly, I don't know, but I do know it takes several
minutes to complete just this process) - BEFORE it starts restoring it.


Meebers wrote:
I use an older 60 GB HDD in a removable tray for a clone using Casper.
(WinXP-3 about 35GB used space) My verification is to immediately boot
the
system with the just made clone and run it thru its paces etc. It is then
removed and stored and my main HDD is used until next clone is scheduled.
Even though I have ATI 11, I don't think it is that easy to "test" the
image
rebuild etc ?? XP I use Casper and VistaU I use Acronis 11 having never
"tried" a rebuild yet, guess I should try at least once :-(

"Jo-Anne" wrote in message
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Lots of people are having issues with version 11. There's a new
build--8101 I think--but only a few people are claiming it's helped them
in any way.

Jo-Anne

"Big_Al" wrote in message
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Jo-Anne wrote:
Not good! Have you checked in with the Acronis user forum for
suggestions?

Jo-Anne

"Big_Al" wrote in message
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Jo-Anne wrote:
I've used the verify/validate function, which takes forever (and the
more backup images on the drive, the longer it takes, since it
apparently can't validate only the current image--or so people on the
Acronis forum say). However, some people have reported that even
validated images sometimes don't restore. One way to check--and I
haven't done it yet--is to mount an image and copy some of its files
to the hard drive to see if they open OK. At least that gets closer
to
a true restore.

Jo-Anne

"Big_Al" wrote in message
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Jo-Anne wrote:
Thank you, Al! Actually, images are what I'm doing too--with
Acronis
True Image. You can do incrementals with this program. I'm guessing
that Dave is cloning his drive; hence one image per drive (or, I've
been told, per partitition). I like the idea of being able to put
multiple images on one external drive and can only hope that they
restore OK in an emergency.

Jo-Anne

"Big_Al" wrote in message
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Jo-Anne wrote:
Thank you again!

Jo-Anne

"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
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All imaging is of the current installation, and totally replaces
the original it overwrites in my case.

--
Dave

"Jo-Anne" wrote in message
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Thank you, Dave! Are all your backups full ones, or do you do
incrementals too?

Jo-Anne

"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
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"Jo-Anne" wrote in message
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I'm currently backing up my desktop XP SP3 computer to two
external hard drives with Acronis True Image. I'm planning to
buy the program for my new laptop as well (currently XP SP2
but will install SP3 soon). How do others handle backups from
two computers? Do you dedicate separate external drives to
each computer or do backups to the same drives from different
computers? If the latter, do you just store the backups in
different folders?

Thanks much!

Jo-Anne

Currently, I am only using one PC. However, I sometimes boot
off an insertable hard drive.

For the onboard, I use one external hard drive for image
backups.
For the external, I use yet another external hard drive for
image backups.
In each case, I keep the original installation as an image at
the root of each external backup hard drive.

Further, I use 5 separate folders for each week of the month
on
each external hard drive for backups. As a result, I have a
month's worth of image backups at all times.

Using DriveImage 7 and firewire for backup external hard
drives.
--
Dave


Note Jo-Anne, he is imaging the drive, not doing backups of files
and folders. An image is IMO, a much simpler and thorough way
to
backup. If he was doing backups, you could do incrementals too.

There is a verify function, not sure if it does much, but I've had
the same question. I use ATI to backup my AMD machine before SP3
since AMD processors had a big SP3 issue. I tested that image to
make sure. I was paranoid, it was my wife's PC. I'd be dead if I
messed it up. :-)

You should try. I did and image for SP3 and then tested it by
restoring a single image folder with about 20 sub folders and images.
All of the thumbs.db files in each folder were corrupted. Everything
else was okay. And I got permission issues on each and could not
remove
them. Using ATI of course. Still, luckily I put it on a spare drive
and wound up formatting it to get those files off. Never tried to
solve the issue since format was too simple at this point.



I'm just now trying to make a login and I plan to do so. Writing to
you
reminded me and I really want to validate this.
I've used ATI Version 9 to clone drives, but this was ATI version 11
that
I had issues with.
Thanks.

On 2008-08-15, Jo-Anne hit the keyboard and wrote:
You're right, Bill! I did mean one clone per partition--and I agree that
imaging is easier over all. I have a friend who has used Acronis for at
least a few years and periodically has restored to a brand new internal
drive without a glitch.

Jo-Anne


Just a side note Jo-Anne you don't think trimming posts would be in
order? I've seen posts here from you 50 60 Lines in length and all
you typed at the top was "Thank you". Even this post is in excess
of 90 lines and only 6 lines are new your answers as a typical OE
user at the top. To teach a Windows user not to top-post on Usenet
is like teaching a elephant to fly, a waste of time.


cut 100 lines


Dragomir Kollaric
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This signature is licensed under the GPL and may be
freely distributed as long as a copy of the GPL is included... :-)

Thank you for the suggestions, Dragomir, however unpleasantly phrased. Since
the cursor is at the top in OE messages, it's the natural place to start the
post--and it's my preference as well. With a thank you at the top, no one
has to read through the rest, so it doesn't matter how long the post is.

However, in the future I'll use the format of whatever appeared before in
that thread, unless I'm the first responder. And I'll try to trim long
posts.

Jo-Anne

"Dragomir Kollaric" wrote in message
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Just a side note Jo-Anne you don't think trimming posts would be in
order? I've seen posts here from you 50 60 Lines in length and all
you typed at the top was "Thank you". Even this post is in excess
of 90 lines and only 6 lines are new your answers as a typical OE
user at the top. To teach a Windows user not to top-post on Usenet
is like teaching a elephant to fly, a waste of time.

Dragomir Kollaric

Bill....What version of ATI do you use and on what OS?

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
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I have used True Image to restore a backed up image on another drive
numerous times now without incident. So I don't even bother verifying
it.

Actually, when you use True Image to restore a partition, it checks it out
first (but how thoroughly, I don't know, but I do know it takes several
minutes to complete just this process) - BEFORE it starts restoring it.


Meebers wrote:
I use an older 60 GB HDD in a removable tray for a clone using Casper.
(WinXP-3 about 35GB used space) My verification is to immediately boot
the
system with the just made clone and run it thru its paces etc. It is
then
removed and stored and my main HDD is used until next clone is scheduled.
Even though I have ATI 11, I don't think it is that easy to "test" the
image
rebuild etc ?? XP I use Casper and VistaU I use Acronis 11 having never
"tried" a rebuild yet, guess I should try at least once :-(

On 2008-08-16, Jo-Anne hit the keyboard and wrote:
Thank you for the suggestions, Dragomir, however unpleasantly phrased. Since
the cursor is at the top in OE messages, it's the natural place to start the
post--and it's my preference as well. With a thank you at the top, no one
has to read through the rest, so it doesn't matter how long the post is.

However, in the future I'll use the format of whatever appeared before in
that thread, unless I'm the first responder. And I'll try to trim long
posts.


Well, the cursor for the editor here was configured also to
be on the "top" of the page, with the minor difference I
have to switch it into *text-input* by hitting "i" first.
Because of this I for one got used to read to the whole
message (if the reply isn't at the top). I guess it's just a
habit people got used to.

To answer you here I hit ":20 i" and then started to type the
reply... :-)




Jo-Anne





Dragomir Kollaric
--
This signature is licensed under the GPL and may be
freely distributed as long as a copy of the GPL is included... :-)

Dragomir Kollaric wrote:
On 2008-08-15, Jo-Anne hit the keyboard and wrote:
You're right, Bill! I did mean one clone per partition--and I agree that
imaging is easier over all. I have a friend who has used Acronis for at
least a few years and periodically has restored to a brand new internal
drive without a glitch.

Jo-Anne


Just a side note Jo-Anne you don't think trimming posts would be in
order? I've seen posts here from you 50 60 Lines in length and all
you typed at the top was "Thank you". Even this post is in excess
of 90 lines and only 6 lines are new your answers as a typical OE
user at the top. To teach a Windows user not to top-post on Usenet
is like teaching a elephant to fly, a waste of time.

Ahhh, the impatience of youth!


cut 100 lines

I wouldn't worry about it too much, Jo-Anne. If they don't have the
patience (typical of newagers), that's their problem.

Sigh, yet another sign of the times. :-)

Jo-Anne wrote:
Thank you for the suggestions, Dragomir, however unpleasantly phrased.
Since
the cursor is at the top in OE messages, it's the natural place to start
the
post--and it's my preference as well. With a thank you at the top, no one
has to read through the rest, so it doesn't matter how long the post is.

However, in the future I'll use the format of whatever appeared before in
that thread, unless I'm the first responder. And I'll try to trim long
posts.

Jo-Anne

"Dragomir Kollaric" wrote in message
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Just a side note Jo-Anne you don't think trimming posts would be in
order? I've seen posts here from you 50 60 Lines in length and all
you typed at the top was "Thank you". Even this post is in excess
of 90 lines and only 6 lines are new your answers as a typical OE
user at the top. To teach a Windows user not to top-post on Usenet
is like teaching a elephant to fly, a waste of time.

Dragomir Kollaric