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Missing Security tab despite turning off Simple File Sharing
I've lost the Security tab I should see when I right click a folder and click
Sharing and Security. I've tried going through Tools, Folder Options, View, and then unchecking the Use simple file sharing box. But still no security tab! I've done this repeatedly, switching it back and forth. No dice. I've rebooted repeatedly, still nothing. I've tried system restore back to a point in time when I think everything worked, and it tells that nothing has actually changed, so there's nothing to restore. One other weird thing, the Sharing tab I do get has nothing on it about sharing anything on the local computer, there are only controls for a network share, including how many users are allowed. This doesn't match any textbook I have, and I don't know where it's coming from. One final bit of weirdness, for several hours I've been unable to to access this newsgroup's editor to post this message. I'm doing it now from an old Windows 98 machine with no problem whatsoever, over the exact same connection. I've also had Internet Explorer suddenly tell me that the page I want isn't available offline, that I should use my dial-up connection. I'd go out to the command prompt, Ping something like yahoo.com, that would work fine, and then the browser would settle down and recognize the proper connection to the local gateway and DSL modem. Any ideas? I've spent hours searching Knowledge Base, and I just keeping getting the same old crap about turning off simple file sharing. HELP! |
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Missing Security tab despite turning off Simple File Sharing
Besides clearing the checkmark for Use simple file sharing [Recommended] in
Folder Options... The sharing tab is not visible if you are logged on to a machine with an account that does not have adequate rights. The sharing option is not available for the Documents and Settings, Program Files, and WINDOWS system folders. In addition, you cannot share folders in other user's profiles. Also. . . The Sharing tab is not visible.... Start | Run | Type: services.msc | Click OK | Scroll down to and double click: Server service | Set Startup type to: Automatic | Click Apply | Click the Start button | When it has started, click OK If you do not see the Server service.......... This will restore the Server Service (lanmanserver). Open Network Connections, click Start, point to Settings, click Control Panel, and then double-click Network Connections. | Right click Your Connection | Properties | General tab | Install button | Highlight: Service | Add button | Highlight: File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks | OK | Close Check settings here... HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\ Policies\Explorer and/or HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\ Policies\Explorer If there is no NoSecurityTab listing then this is not the problem. Value Name: NoSecurityTab Value Type: REG_DWORD Value Data: 0 or 1 0 = Security tab will be visible 1 = Security tab will not be visible Group Policy is only available with XP Pro. Open Group Policy... Start | Run | Type: gpedit.msc | Click OK | Navigate to... Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Windows Explorer\ Remove the Security tab Set to Not Configured or Disabled. Remove the Security tab [[Removes the Security tab from Windows Explorer. If you enable this setting, users opening the Properties dialog box for all file system objects, including folders, files, shortcuts, and drives, will not be able to access the Security tab. As a result, users will be able to neither change the security settings nor view a list of all users that have access to the resource in question. If you disable or do not configure this setting, users will be able to access the security tab.]] -- Hope this helps. Let us know. Wes MS-MVP Windows Shell/User In , Leon Myerson hunted and pecked: I've lost the Security tab I should see when I right click a folder and click Sharing and Security. I've tried going through Tools, Folder Options, View, and then unchecking the Use simple file sharing box. But still no security tab! I've done this repeatedly, switching it back and forth. No dice. I've rebooted repeatedly, still nothing. I've tried system restore back to a point in time when I think everything worked, and it tells that nothing has actually changed, so there's nothing to restore. One other weird thing, the Sharing tab I do get has nothing on it about sharing anything on the local computer, there are only controls for a network share, including how many users are allowed. This doesn't match any textbook I have, and I don't know where it's coming from. One final bit of weirdness, for several hours I've been unable to to access this newsgroup's editor to post this message. I'm doing it now from an old Windows 98 machine with no problem whatsoever, over the exact same connection. I've also had Internet Explorer suddenly tell me that the page I want isn't available offline, that I should use my dial-up connection. I'd go out to the command prompt, Ping something like yahoo.com, that would work fine, and then the browser would settle down and recognize the proper connection to the local gateway and DSL modem. Any ideas? I've spent hours searching Knowledge Base, and I just keeping getting the same old crap about turning off simple file sharing. HELP! |
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Missing Security tab despite turning off Simple File Sharing
Thanks for responding, the information you provided is good to know.
Turns out that wasn't the actual problem. I'm a little embarrassed to say this, but I didn't set up this laptop, I won it in a charity raffle two years ago. Because it came with XP already loaded, all this time I just assumed the drive was NTFS. It wasn't!! When I converted it, the problem was gone. Still, I wonder why it would switch to the File Sharing disabled sharing tab for that setting if it couldn't execute it. I would have thought that that setting wouldn't even appear under Tools, Options, View if XP couldn't use it. That's what really had me stumped. I could kick myself for not checking the file system sooner. grin -Leon "Wesley Vogel" wrote: Besides clearing the checkmark for Use simple file sharing [Recommended] in Folder Options... The sharing tab is not visible if you are logged on to a machine with an account that does not have adequate rights. The sharing option is not available for the Documents and Settings, Program Files, and WINDOWS system folders. In addition, you cannot share folders in other user's profiles. Also. . . The Sharing tab is not visible.... Start | Run | Type: services.msc | Click OK | Scroll down to and double click: Server service | Set Startup type to: Automatic | Click Apply | Click the Start button | When it has started, click OK If you do not see the Server service.......... This will restore the Server Service (lanmanserver). Open Network Connections, click Start, point to Settings, click Control Panel, and then double-click Network Connections. | Right click Your Connection | Properties | General tab | Install button | Highlight: Service | Add button | Highlight: File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks | OK | Close Check settings here... HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\ Policies\Explorer and/or HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\ Policies\Explorer If there is no NoSecurityTab listing then this is not the problem. Value Name: NoSecurityTab Value Type: REG_DWORD Value Data: 0 or 1 0 = Security tab will be visible 1 = Security tab will not be visible Group Policy is only available with XP Pro. Open Group Policy... Start | Run | Type: gpedit.msc | Click OK | Navigate to... Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Windows Explorer\ Remove the Security tab Set to Not Configured or Disabled. Remove the Security tab [[Removes the Security tab from Windows Explorer. If you enable this setting, users opening the Properties dialog box for all file system objects, including folders, files, shortcuts, and drives, will not be able to access the Security tab. As a result, users will be able to neither change the security settings nor view a list of all users that have access to the resource in question. If you disable or do not configure this setting, users will be able to access the security tab.]] -- Hope this helps. Let us know. Wes MS-MVP Windows Shell/User In , Leon Myerson hunted and pecked: I've lost the Security tab I should see when I right click a folder and click Sharing and Security. I've tried going through Tools, Folder Options, View, and then unchecking the Use simple file sharing box. But still no security tab! I've done this repeatedly, switching it back and forth. No dice. I've rebooted repeatedly, still nothing. I've tried system restore back to a point in time when I think everything worked, and it tells that nothing has actually changed, so there's nothing to restore. One other weird thing, the Sharing tab I do get has nothing on it about sharing anything on the local computer, there are only controls for a network share, including how many users are allowed. This doesn't match any textbook I have, and I don't know where it's coming from. One final bit of weirdness, for several hours I've been unable to to access this newsgroup's editor to post this message. I'm doing it now from an old Windows 98 machine with no problem whatsoever, over the exact same connection. I've also had Internet Explorer suddenly tell me that the page I want isn't available offline, that I should use my dial-up connection. I'd go out to the command prompt, Ping something like yahoo.com, that would work fine, and then the browser would settle down and recognize the proper connection to the local gateway and DSL modem. Any ideas? I've spent hours searching Knowledge Base, and I just keeping getting the same old crap about turning off simple file sharing. HELP! |
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Hi Leon,
big grin I actually left out the NTFS part when I posted. -- Hope this helps. Let us know. Wes MS-MVP Windows Shell/User In , Leon Myerson hunted and pecked: Thanks for responding, the information you provided is good to know. Turns out that wasn't the actual problem. I'm a little embarrassed to say this, but I didn't set up this laptop, I won it in a charity raffle two years ago. Because it came with XP already loaded, all this time I just assumed the drive was NTFS. It wasn't!! When I converted it, the problem was gone. Still, I wonder why it would switch to the File Sharing disabled sharing tab for that setting if it couldn't execute it. I would have thought that that setting wouldn't even appear under Tools, Options, View if XP couldn't use it. That's what really had me stumped. I could kick myself for not checking the file system sooner. grin -Leon "Wesley Vogel" wrote: Besides clearing the checkmark for Use simple file sharing [Recommended] in Folder Options... The sharing tab is not visible if you are logged on to a machine with an account that does not have adequate rights. The sharing option is not available for the Documents and Settings, Program Files, and WINDOWS system folders. In addition, you cannot share folders in other user's profiles. Also. . . The Sharing tab is not visible.... Start | Run | Type: services.msc | Click OK | Scroll down to and double click: Server service | Set Startup type to: Automatic | Click Apply | Click the Start button | When it has started, click OK If you do not see the Server service.......... This will restore the Server Service (lanmanserver). Open Network Connections, click Start, point to Settings, click Control Panel, and then double-click Network Connections. | Right click Your Connection | Properties | General tab | Install button | Highlight: Service | Add button | Highlight: File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks | OK | Close Check settings here... HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\ Policies\Explorer and/or HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\ Policies\Explorer If there is no NoSecurityTab listing then this is not the problem. Value Name: NoSecurityTab Value Type: REG_DWORD Value Data: 0 or 1 0 = Security tab will be visible 1 = Security tab will not be visible Group Policy is only available with XP Pro. Open Group Policy... Start | Run | Type: gpedit.msc | Click OK | Navigate to... Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Windows Explorer\ Remove the Security tab Set to Not Configured or Disabled. Remove the Security tab [[Removes the Security tab from Windows Explorer. If you enable this setting, users opening the Properties dialog box for all file system objects, including folders, files, shortcuts, and drives, will not be able to access the Security tab. As a result, users will be able to neither change the security settings nor view a list of all users that have access to the resource in question. If you disable or do not configure this setting, users will be able to access the security tab.]] -- Hope this helps. Let us know. Wes MS-MVP Windows Shell/User In , Leon Myerson hunted and pecked: I've lost the Security tab I should see when I right click a folder and click Sharing and Security. I've tried going through Tools, Folder Options, View, and then unchecking the Use simple file sharing box. But still no security tab! I've done this repeatedly, switching it back and forth. No dice. I've rebooted repeatedly, still nothing. I've tried system restore back to a point in time when I think everything worked, and it tells that nothing has actually changed, so there's nothing to restore. One other weird thing, the Sharing tab I do get has nothing on it about sharing anything on the local computer, there are only controls for a network share, including how many users are allowed. This doesn't match any textbook I have, and I don't know where it's coming from. One final bit of weirdness, for several hours I've been unable to to access this newsgroup's editor to post this message. I'm doing it now from an old Windows 98 machine with no problem whatsoever, over the exact same connection. I've also had Internet Explorer suddenly tell me that the page I want isn't available offline, that I should use my dial-up connection. I'd go out to the command prompt, Ping something like yahoo.com, that would work fine, and then the browser would settle down and recognize the proper connection to the local gateway and DSL modem. Any ideas? I've spent hours searching Knowledge Base, and I just keeping getting the same old crap about turning off simple file sharing. HELP! |
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Missing Security tab despite turning off Simple File Sharing
Hello, Just reviving this thread, because after lot's of googleing I still have the same problem as Leon: No Security Tab in the File Properties Dialog. This thread seemed the most elaborative, giving many hints what could have been the reason, however it still didn't solve the problem: - I have Windows XP Professional (SP2) - Its a NTFS Filesystem - I have switched "Simple File Sharing" off - I'm logged in as an Administrator - I have checked the Server service (uninstalled and reinstalled it) - I have checked the group policy: Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Windows Explorer\Remove the Security tab was "not configured" (I have set it to deactivated) Not much left to check ? Any other ideas, what it could be? May be this is relevant,: Indeed I had a hard disk crash some days ago and restored the backup to a new disk (using EMC Retrospect 7.5). Everything seemed to have be restored correctly. However I'm not absolutely sure whether the security tab problem existed already before the last backup. However now there are some weird things: - The Removable Storage Mangagement Service is stopping by magic (leaving no valuable trace in the event log). - In the DCOM-Mangager dcomcnfg.exe there is no "Default Security"-Tab (and no other security tab), where it should be. And finally of course no security tab in the file property dialog. This seemed for me the very basic root of all evil, so I started to solve this first, before solving the other problems. A free beer for that person that has the right idea, what's going wrong with my machine. Michael -- Wallenstein ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wallenstein's Profile: http://forums.techarena.in/member.php?userid=32544 View this thread: http://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?t=748895 http://forums.techarena.in |
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Missing Security tab despite turning off Simple File Sharing
Tried all this and still did not work for me. Domain admin could not see security tab. Remove PC from domain and join workgroup Delete Administrator.domain account Rejoin domain Voila! -- peterennis ------------------------------------------------------------------------ peterennis's Profile: http://forums.techarena.in/member.php?userid=37774 View this thread: http://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?t=748895 http://forums.techarena.in |
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Missing Security tab despite turning off Simple File Sharing
On 20 dic 2007, 02:38, peterennis
wrote: Tried all this and still did not work for me. Domain admin could not see security tab. Remove PC from domain and join workgroup Delete Administrator.domain account Rejoin domain Voila! -- peterennis ------------------------------------------------------------------------ peterennis's Profile:http://forums.techarena.in/member.php?userid=37774 View this thread:http://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?t=748895 http://forums.techarena.in Hi to all members of this group. I had also this problem with a windows xp pro computer at my company. I was making a revision of the security policies in the computers of my work group (even I am not a software expert but a simple user) and I found that that computer had the simple file sharing allowed. Then I began with the procedure to not allow simple file sharing and to have visible the security tab. I don´t want to extend my explanation of all the tricks I used but only to say that I read everything in the Internet about the topic, including the suggestions in this group, and I applied all of them. I spent about four entire days to solve the problem. The results were frustrating because I did'n obtain the same results for equal procedures. I changed the forceguest from 1 to 0 in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Lsa, unchecked the "use simple file sharing" box both in My computer and in the Control Panel "folder options", examined the currrentversion policies, disabled and abled the guest account, rebooted in safe mode and made the changes, etc. Well, usually, the procedure didn't work, the security tab continued to be missing, the "use simple file sharing" box checked, and the forceguest returned to 1. Sometimes I was able to see for a few seconds the security tab and to make changes in it but quickly it disappeared. Simetimes even I was able for a few seconds to connect with a shared folder from another computer with my own account. Once I maintained opened the My computer and the "folder options" in the Control Panel with the "use simple file sharing" box unchecked as well as the forceguest=0 in the Lsa of the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE and everything worked well. As soon as I closed one of them the problem continued. Then I used another computer without this problem in my work group as a reference for configuration and began to put the bad one with the same configuration as the good one. Deinstalled programmes, nothing happened, eliminated the non-coincident programmes in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Run, nothing happened, coppied the security directives configuration, nothing happened, turned off the non coincident programs in the startup and services with msconfig, nothing happened. Then I had an idea. If all the question is that the forceguest in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Lsa retuns to the 1 value each time we put the value 0, what would happened if we put another different value from 0 and 1? I know all the recommendations about changes in the Register of windows but after so many hours trying to solve the problem I didn't go to abandon without finding a solution. Then I put 2. The system warned but I didn' care. The 2 was admitted by the system. The security tab has returned and the "use simple file sharing" box was unchecked. I could make changes, etc. But this only lasted a few seconds and number 2 returned to be 1. So, I thought, -we are just as in the beginning-. Then, I said to myself, if number 2 was admitted by the system, other numbers different from 0 an 1 will be also admitted. I was thinking even in putting big numbers in case the numbers had something to do with the time the system responded to the changing configuration. Then I put the value 3, et voilá, the system worked properly. After one day, the security tab continues to be there, the "use simple file sharing" box continues to be unchecked, I can connect from another computer to the share folders I put in the "bad" computer, and, more amazing, the number 3 continues to be in the forceguest setting. I don't know if the number 3 in the change of the forceguest setting is the only reason fo the system responding to my request of changing the file sharing setting, or if it is that together with all the changes in the startup and services in msconfig, because these changes are still there, and I don't want to try the luck making more changes. My opinion is that Windows responded in a vicious circle with number 0 and 1 and that this circle was broken putting a different number than 0 and 1. So, any other number different from 0 and 1 could be also valid. I wanted to make this information known because, even I am not a habitual user of these groups, this thread was around in the Internet for many months or years without a satisfactory answer. |
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