New Windows opening behind current window

edevils wrote:

John Doe wrote:
edevils wrote:
Paul wrote:
EGK wrote:

This has always been buggy in windows but Windows 10 seems awful
for opening new windows behind others. Anyone have any ideas how
I can fix this?

Example. I open a file explorer window and right click on a file
or folder and choose properties. The properties window is always
opening behind the open Explorer window.

There are some suggestions here, perhaps too numerous to copy and
paste.

https://social.technet.microsoft.com...-US/c7b0e69b-6
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7-437d-9f7b-dde53de6a0a8/new-window-opens-behind-existing-window-how
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FOREGROUNDFLASHCOUNT FOREGROUNDLOCKTIMEOUT

And Microsoft considers this "open behind" method to be an
improvement. I can't figure out what they thought they were fixing.
Who wants a dialog of any sort, that needs attention or input, to
be behind ?

I would definitely want some dialogs to be behind. Let's say I am
running a long antivirus scan while I am typing something in another
window. All of a sudden an alert window pops up and steals focus.
The next thing I know, my keystrokes are being used as input by the
antivirus program, maybe to delete some files I would have kept.

As a rule, a dialogue that is user input initiated should never come
up behind other Windows. Programs aren't really supposed to steal
focus, sounds like you have a misbehaving program. You could use a
different antivirus program.

There are heaps of forum discussions complaining about programs
stealing focus in Windows (all versions).

No, there are not "heaps". Otherwise it would be a common complaint in
these forums. And it's not. Your problem is that you have a misbehaving
program. You should realize that and stop complaining about it.

Programs are not supposed to steal focus. Stealing focus is not easy. I
would be willing to bet that no one reading this knows how to steal
focus in Windows. I know you don't.

There's even a Wikipedia article about this well-known issue.

As if wiki**** is an authority on anything?

Tell me what it takes to become a wiki**** moderator...

On 09/01/2016 22:04, John Doe wrote:
There are heaps of forum discussions complaining about programs
stealing focus in Windows (all versions).
No, there are not "heaps".
....

Google is your friend. Just as an example, look for pages about the
focus-stealing Windows 10 "Schedule restart" pop-up notification.
https://www.google.it/search?q="schedule+restart"+pop-up+stealing+focus

One among many:

|NYKevin wrote:
|Does the "We're rebooting your computer in 15 minutes to install
|updates" dialog box still steal focus? I consider this a dealbreaker
|for gaming.
http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtop...9815&start=120

On 1/8/2016 5:01 PM, EGK wrote:
On Fri, 08 Jan 2016 19:49:05 GMT, mick wrote:

On 08/01/2016 22:28:56, EGK wrote:
On Fri, 08 Jan 2016 18:53:11 GMT, mick wrote:

On 08/01/2016 19:08:16, EGK wrote:
On Fri, 08 Jan 2016 15:58:02 GMT, mick wrote:

On 08/01/2016 17:06:48, EGK wrote:
This has always been buggy in windows but Windows 10 seems awful for
opening new windows behind others. Anyone have any ideas how I can fix
this?

Example. I open a file explorer window and right click on a file or
folder and choose properties. The properties window is always opening
behind the open Explorer window.

An old trick from previous versions of windows was to unlock the
taskbar then lock it again.

Mine was already unlocked but I tried turning it on and off but it didn't
help. I'm sure it's some setting I changed since it works ok for other
people. I tried setting explorer back to all defaults for instance but
that didnt help either. Thanks though.

Searching Google, 'windows opening behind other windows'
it seems your problem is very common with no definitive solutions.
Best of luck solving it.

Yup. It's always been a problem in Windows. Microsoft has never fixed it.
Another problem they've never fixed is Explorer keeping the same view. I
prefer the list view and set that then go to the options to set all folders
like this and it's hit or miss whether it works or not.

Why not use a free file manager like Freecommander or Total Commander.
There are plenty of alternatives out there which are way better than
file explorer. I've used Directory Opus for years although you have to
pay for that.

I have tried some of those before. I like a simple interfact so use the
"list" mode. I get Explorer as simple as possible then every new version of
Windows, Microsoft screws it up worse. Plus they never fix the things that
have always been broken in it.

I'm so disgusted by Windows 10 my "fix" may be to put my W7 image back on my
drive.

I have tried win 10 but cannot see anything to get excited about for my
own needs. I will probably uninstall it after making an image and go
back to win 7 and wait until a future time before having another look
at it.

I've been having a fight with my wireless usb keyboard and mouse randomly
freezing up. A wired mouse did too so pretty sure it's the USB ports,
possibly a USB 3.0 hard drive causing problems. Installing W10 clean was
to see if that would fix the problem. It didn't. Now i'm just leaving
the external drive unplugged until I need it.

On many PC's the motherboard connectors for the front and back of the
machine's USB ports go to a different internal USB bridge. Try moving
the wireless mouse dongle to the opposite of what it is now, front/back
USB port for a time and see if that helps.

As I said, Yes programs do steal focus, but those are badly behaving
programs like your antivirus program that you keep whining about. You
need to stop whining and get a better program. Repeatedly posting about
the same annoyance doesn't make it common.

I've been into systemwide macro recording since Macro Recorder in
Windows 3.1. Since then, I've learned to piece together my own macro
recorder. Using Microsoft's MFC. There is no MFC function for stealing
focus from the user because it's frowned upon.

If programs stealing focus were common, it would be regularly complained
about in these groups. And the answer would be the same, get a better
program. I'm vastly more knowledgeable about the subject, and I don't do
wild goose chases. Make your own argument, or keep quiet so you don't
look stupider.


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On 09/01/2016 22:04, John Doe wrote:
There are heaps of forum discussions complaining about programs
stealing focus in Windows (all versions).
No, there are not "heaps".
...

Google is your friend. Just as an example, look for pages about the
focus-stealing Windows 10 "Schedule restart" pop-up notification.
https://www.google.it/search?q="schedule+restart"+pop-up+stealing+focus

One among many:

|NYKevin wrote:
|Does the "We're rebooting your computer in 15 minutes to install
|updates" dialog box still steal focus? I consider this a dealbreaker
|for gaming.
http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtop...9815&start=120

On 10/01/2016 23:30, John Doe wrote:
As I said,
....snip....

Not only you are repeating yourself and being rude, but looks like you
didn't even read my reply about the focus-stealing windows 10 "Schedule
Restart" pop-up window. What's worse, your top-posting and header
quoting is uglier than a mud fence. As it comes from an experienced
user, I'd call that "trollish behavior", which I am not keen on feeding.
I see no point in further replies.

That argument is ludicrous for all sorts of reasons.

Windows Updates schedule restart notices don't steal focus.

They don't tell you that they're going to restart your computer. Not
even Windows 10 does that. If it ever was to happen, maroon, that would
be a user setting.

Gamers aren't that stupid. They have a clue about simple configuration
of Windows.

And I have never even heard of "arstechnica.com".


You're breaking up. Try orbiting closer to Earth for your next
transmission.


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On 10/01/2016 23:30, John Doe wrote:
As I said,
...snip....

Not only you are repeating yourself and being rude, but looks like you
didn't even read my reply about the focus-stealing windows 10 "Schedule
Restart" pop-up window. What's worse, your top-posting and header
quoting is uglier than a mud fence. As it comes from an experienced
user, I'd call that "trollish behavior", which I am not keen on feeding.
I see no point in further replies.

On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 23:55:53 -0000, John Doe wrote:

That argument is ludicrous for all sorts of reasons.

Windows Updates schedule restart notices don't steal focus.

They don't tell you that they're going to restart your computer. Not
even Windows 10 does that. If it ever was to happen, maroon, that would
be a user setting.

Gamers aren't that stupid. They have a clue about simple configuration
of Windows.

And I have never even heard of "arstechnica.com".

Then you're very ignorant.

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On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 22:30:16 -0000, John Doe wrote:

As I said, Yes programs do steal focus, but those are badly behaving
programs like your antivirus program that you keep whining about. You
need to stop whining and get a better program. Repeatedly posting about
the same annoyance doesn't make it common.

It's happened to me too with COUNTLESS programs. So you're talking utter ****e.

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John Doe wrote:


And I have never even heard of "arstechnica.com".

Oh, my.

Try it.

It has fun stuff.

http://arstechnica.com/cars/2016/01/...we-did-at-ces/

Paul

Responding to an entirely off-topic ad hominem troll...

"Ars Technica was founded in Cambridge, Massachusetts. Amongst those
joining Ars Technica in its infancy was Jon Stokes, co-founder and
renowned CPU Editor for Ars Technica's first 12 years (Jon served also
as Deputy Editor from 2008-2011). Eric Bangeman, co-founder and Managing
Editor, joined the site during its earliest years and remains in the
thick of the Ars Technica newsroom."

"Acquired in 2008 by Advance, the parent company of Conde Nast, Ars
Technica has offices in Boston, New York, Chicago, and San Francisco.
Today, Ars Technica operates as Conde Nast's only 100% digitally native
editorial publication."

I don't see anything in there that looks familiar. I am familiar with
the word "advance". The name "Conde Nast" reminds me of Condoleezza
Rice. But the claim of having offices in this or that city is no more
legitimate than saying you know somebody living there.

Seems the only attribute to "Jon Stokes" is working for that
publication.

Are they a publicly traded company? Never heard of them or anything
related to them before.

Explain why anybody should know...



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On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 23:55:53 -0000, John Doe always.look message.header wrote:

That argument is ludicrous for all sorts of reasons.

Windows Updates schedule restart notices don't steal focus.

They don't tell you that they're going to restart your computer. Not
even Windows 10 does that. If it ever was to happen, maroon, that would
be a user setting.

Gamers aren't that stupid. They have a clue about simple configuration
of Windows.

And I have never even heard of "arstechnica.com".

Then you're very ignorant.

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A troll with no argument...

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On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 22:30:16 -0000, John Doe always.look message.header wrote:

As I said, Yes programs do steal focus, but those are badly behaving
programs like your antivirus program that you keep whining about. You
need to stop whining and get a better program. Repeatedly posting about
the same annoyance doesn't make it common.

It's happened to me too with COUNTLESS programs. So you're talking utter ****e.

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Paul wrote:

John Doe wrote:

And I have never even heard of "arstechnica.com".

Oh, my.

Lions and tigers and bears.

Try it.

It has fun stuff.

http://arstechnica.com/cars/2016/01/...tric-vehicle-i
s-the-most-fun-thing-we-did-at-ces/

Yeah, I immediately got into reading about a different type of single
wheel balancing vehicle. But it's a publication I never recall seeing in
search results. And just about everything you need to know about
innovation can be found on YouTube, with videos to prove it (or fake it,
whatever).

Stealing focus in Windows is uncommon because it's generally bad
programming practice. It's not part of Microsoft Foundation Classes
because it's frowned upon.

But there is a way to steal focus in Windows, at least with a hack. A
systemwide macro recorder must be able to do that. I don't know if there
are more ways than one, but you can find one way by searching the
Internet. I found it after a real programmer threw up his hands about
how to do it. I needed to know anyway, and it was a challenge at that
point.

So far, only numbnut trolls have chimed in about the topic under
discussion. That's the problem with UseNet. Even if nobody has a real
counter argument, that doesn't stop trolls.

John Doe wrote on 1/10/2016 7:30 PM:
Paul wrote:

John Doe wrote:

And I have never even heard of "arstechnica.com".

Oh, my.

Lions and tigers and bears.

Try it.

It has fun stuff.

http://arstechnica.com/cars/2016/01/...tric-vehicle-i
s-the-most-fun-thing-we-did-at-ces/

Yeah, I immediately got into reading about a different type of single
wheel balancing vehicle. But it's a publication I never recall seeing in
search results. And just about everything you need to know about
innovation can be found on YouTube, with videos to prove it (or fake it,
whatever).


Ignorance is bliss. Arstechnica is a tad long in the tooth but stilll
relevant. That you haven't heard of it is a comment on you, not it.

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Off-topic troll...

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John Doe wrote on 1/10/2016 7:30 PM:
Paul nospam needed.com wrote:

John Doe wrote:

And I have never even heard of "arstechnica.com".

Oh, my.

Lions and tigers and bears.

Try it.

It has fun stuff.

http://arstechnica.com/cars/2016/01/...tric-vehicle-i
s-the-most-fun-thing-we-did-at-ces/

Yeah, I immediately got into reading about a different type of single
wheel balancing vehicle. But it's a publication I never recall seeing in
search results. And just about everything you need to know about
innovation can be found on YouTube, with videos to prove it (or fake it,
whatever).


Ignorance is bliss. Arstechnica is a tad long in the tooth but stilll
relevant. That you haven't heard of it is a comment on you, not it.

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