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XP SP2 EnablebigLBA=1 Hard Drive Parition > 137g
Hello all,
I am another lucky XP Pro user with another hard drive 137g problem. I bought a Western Digital 160g EIDE hard drive and proceeded to do a new installtion of XP. When I first set up a partition on the drive, formatted NTFS, my BIOS could not see the whole 160g. Researched the problem and found out I need to upgrade BIOS, which I did. Bios now reports 160g primary master. Tried to delete new NTFS parition but was forced to format FAT32 over it. Used old Fdisk to remove all partitions. Reboot. When the drive was bare again, created new 20g and 40g partition. Formatted and installed XP on 20g partition. Installtion went well. Tried to download SP1 to get support for hard drive 137g. XP SP1 is no longer available. Microsoft claims that all SP1 fixes are in SP2 and I do not need SP1. Installed SP2 and XP lists the drive as 149.05g not the 160g it really is. Remaining 90g (should be 100g) is listed in disk manager as 69.40 freespace and 21.06 unallocated. I have not been able to combine the freespace and unallocated. EnablebigLBA was not in registery after SP 2 install. I got Western Digital Data Lifegaurd to add Enablebiglba = 1. Drive is still reported as above. I want to create one drive with the remaining room; should be 100g. Can't? Please tell me if SP2 indeed includes enablebiglba. Is my drive stable? How to create a 100g partition using the all of the remaining room. Why is XP only reporting the drive as 149.05g instead of the 160g the BIOS reports? To really fix the problem, I am willing, if need be, to wipe the drive again spend another night reinstalling everything. Thanks.. Neil |
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XP SP2 EnablebigLBA=1 Hard Drive Parition > 137g
Neil wrote:
I am another lucky XP Pro user with another hard drive 137g problem. I bought a Western Digital 160g EIDE hard drive and proceeded to do a new installtion of XP. When I first set up a partition on the drive, formatted NTFS, my BIOS could not see the whole 160g. Researched the problem and found out I need to upgrade BIOS, which I did. Bios now reports 160g primary master. Tried to delete new NTFS parition but was forced to format FAT32 over it. Used old Fdisk to remove all partitions. Reboot. When the drive was bare again, created new 20g and 40g partition. Formatted and installed XP on 20g partition. Installtion went well. Tried to download SP1 to get support for hard drive 137g. XP SP1 is no longer available. Microsoft claims that all SP1 fixes are in SP2 and I do not need SP1. Installed SP2 and XP lists the drive as 149.05g not the 160g it really is. Remaining 90g (should be 100g) is listed in disk manager as 69.40 freespace and 21.06 unallocated. I have not been able to combine the freespace and unallocated. EnablebigLBA was not in registery after SP 2 install. I got Western Digital Data Lifegaurd to add Enablebiglba = 1. Drive is still reported as above. I want to create one drive with the remaining room; should be 100g. Can't? Please tell me if SP2 indeed includes enablebiglba. Is my drive stable? How to create a 100g partition using the all of the remaining room. Why is XP only reporting the drive as 149.05g instead of the 160g the BIOS reports? To really fix the problem, I am willing, if need be, to wipe the drive again spend another night reinstalling everything. Thanks.. Semantics.. Difference in what *is* a Gigabyte and what is being advertised. Here are your realistic and actual numbers... Advertised --- Actual Capacity 10GB --- 9.31 GB 20GB --- 18.63 GB 30GB --- 27.94 GB 40GB --- 37.25 GB 60GB --- 55.88 GB 80GB --- 74.51 GB 100GB --- 93.13 GB 120GB --- 111.76 GB 160GB --- 149.01 GB 180GB --- 167.64 GB 200GB --- 186.26 GB 250GB --- 232.83 GB -- - Shenan - -- The information is provided "as is", it is suggested you research for yourself before you take any advice - you are the one ultimately responsible for your actions/problems/solutions. Know what you are getting into before you jump in with both feet. |
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XP SP2 EnablebigLBA=1 Hard Drive Parition > 137g
Hard drives use MEGA (10^6) or GIGA (10^9) bytes. However computers, =
except for hard drive manufacturers, use Gi (2^30) Bytes. KByte =3D 1 000 (10^3) KiByte =3D 1 024 (2^10) MByte =3D 1 000 000 (10^6) MiByte =3D 1 048 576 (2^20) Because Ki, Mi, and Gi are newer SI terms, and weren't in existance when = MS was a twinkle in Paul's and Bill's eyes computers use MByte to mean = MiByte. GiByte (2^30) =3D 1 073 741 824 149.5 * 1 073 741 824 =3D 160 524 402 688 Therefore you have no problem. If hard drive manufacturers sold memory you would buy (say a 512 MB = chip) as a 537 MByte memory chip. --=20 ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.uscricket.com "Neil" wrote in message = ... Hello all, =20 I am another lucky XP Pro user with another hard drive =20 137g problem. =20 I bought a Western Digital 160g EIDE hard drive and=20 proceeded to do a new installtion of XP. When I first set=20 up a partition on the drive, formatted NTFS, my BIOS could=20 not see the whole 160g. Researched the problem and found=20 out I need to upgrade BIOS, which I did. Bios now reports=20 160g primary master. Tried to delete new NTFS parition=20 but was forced to format FAT32 over it. Used old Fdisk to=20 remove all partitions. Reboot. When the drive was bare=20 again, created new 20g and 40g partition. Formatted and=20 installed XP on 20g partition. Installtion went well. =20 Tried to download SP1 to get support for hard drive =20 137g. XP SP1 is no longer available. Microsoft claims=20 that all SP1 fixes are in SP2 and I do not need SP1. =20 =20 Installed SP2 and XP lists the drive as 149.05g not the=20 160g it really is. Remaining 90g (should be 100g) is=20 listed in disk manager as 69.40 freespace and 21.06=20 unallocated. I have not been able to combine the=20 freespace and unallocated. =20 EnablebigLBA was not in registery after SP 2 install. I=20 got Western Digital Data Lifegaurd to add Enablebiglba =3D 1. Drive is still reported as above. I want to create one drive with the remaining room; should=20 be 100g. =20 Can't? =20 Please tell me if SP2 indeed includes enablebiglba. Is my=20 drive stable? How to create a 100g partition using the=20 all of the remaining room. Why is XP only reporting the=20 drive as 149.05g instead of the 160g the BIOS reports? =20 To really fix the problem, I am willing, if need be, to=20 wipe the drive again spend another night reinstalling=20 everything. Thanks.. =20 Neil |
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XP SP2 EnablebigLBA=1 Hard Drive Parition > 137g
You need a 3rd party tool to combine a current partition with unallocated
space. If you want to do it without suc a tool, trash your 40GB partition and remake a new partition with all the unpartitioned space. To do this, go to control panel/performance and maintenance/administrative tools and click on Computer Management. Go to the disk management tab, and right click on the partition you want removed. Once you have done that, make a new partition with the remaining space using the same program. BTW your reported disk size is normal, you don't actually have 160GB of usable space. The BIOS lists it in metric terms, Windows lists it in binary equivalent terms. I hope this helps. I fint it curious that you had to use FAT32 instead of NTFS, can you explain in more detail? "Neil" wrote: Hello all, I am another lucky XP Pro user with another hard drive 137g problem. I bought a Western Digital 160g EIDE hard drive and proceeded to do a new installtion of XP. When I first set up a partition on the drive, formatted NTFS, my BIOS could not see the whole 160g. Researched the problem and found out I need to upgrade BIOS, which I did. Bios now reports 160g primary master. Tried to delete new NTFS parition but was forced to format FAT32 over it. Used old Fdisk to remove all partitions. Reboot. When the drive was bare again, created new 20g and 40g partition. Formatted and installed XP on 20g partition. Installtion went well. Tried to download SP1 to get support for hard drive 137g. XP SP1 is no longer available. Microsoft claims that all SP1 fixes are in SP2 and I do not need SP1. Installed SP2 and XP lists the drive as 149.05g not the 160g it really is. Remaining 90g (should be 100g) is listed in disk manager as 69.40 freespace and 21.06 unallocated. I have not been able to combine the freespace and unallocated. EnablebigLBA was not in registery after SP 2 install. I got Western Digital Data Lifegaurd to add Enablebiglba = 1. Drive is still reported as above. I want to create one drive with the remaining room; should be 100g. Can't? Please tell me if SP2 indeed includes enablebiglba. Is my drive stable? How to create a 100g partition using the all of the remaining room. Why is XP only reporting the drive as 149.05g instead of the 160g the BIOS reports? To really fix the problem, I am willing, if need be, to wipe the drive again spend another night reinstalling everything. Thanks.. Neil |
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XP SP2 EnablebigLBA=1 Hard Drive Parition > 137g
Thanks for your help. Do you have recommendation for a
partition manager? Also, can anyone confirm XP SP2 contains the fixes for EnablebigLBA that SP1 did? If so, why didn't SP2 install EnablebigLBA=1 on installation? As for me using Fat32, I have much more experience using FAT32. This is my first time using NTFS. I hope it is better than FAT32 performance and recovery wise. I wanted to stop XP from installing and used FAT32 as I knew the associated Fdisk was a safe bet to restore the drive to a bare drive. Can you tell my why XP SP2 placed 69g of freespace and 21g unallocated? Why wasn't all freespace or unallocated so that I can create one large partition. I have no extended partitions on this drive. After setting up both, the 69g formatted to logical drive and the 21 unallocated formatted to a primary partition. Do you think they are stable and usable configured the way they are? I understand what all of you are saying about the actual disk size reported but why then, does my other Western Digital 60g EIDE and Seagate 9g SCSI hard drive actually report the correct drive size in Disk Manager when the new 160g is reported with less? Is there a way to get SP1? Thanks.. Neil -----Original Message----- You need a 3rd party tool to combine a current partition with unallocated space. If you want to do it without suc a tool, trash your 40GB partition and remake a new partition with all the unpartitioned space. To do this, go to control panel/performance and maintenance/administrative tools and click on Computer Management. Go to the disk management tab, and right click on the partition you want removed. Once you have done that, make a new partition with the remaining space using the same program. BTW your reported disk size is normal, you don't actually have 160GB of usable space. The BIOS lists it in metric terms, Windows lists it in binary equivalent terms. I hope this helps. I fint it curious that you had to use FAT32 instead of NTFS, can you explain in more detail? "Neil" wrote: Hello all, I am another lucky XP Pro user with another hard drive 137g problem. I bought a Western Digital 160g EIDE hard drive and proceeded to do a new installtion of XP. When I first set up a partition on the drive, formatted NTFS, my BIOS could not see the whole 160g. Researched the problem and found out I need to upgrade BIOS, which I did. Bios now reports 160g primary master. Tried to delete new NTFS parition but was forced to format FAT32 over it. Used old Fdisk to remove all partitions. Reboot. When the drive was bare again, created new 20g and 40g partition. Formatted and installed XP on 20g partition. Installtion went well. Tried to download SP1 to get support for hard drive 137g. XP SP1 is no longer available. Microsoft claims that all SP1 fixes are in SP2 and I do not need SP1. Installed SP2 and XP lists the drive as 149.05g not the 160g it really is. Remaining 90g (should be 100g) is listed in disk manager as 69.40 freespace and 21.06 unallocated. I have not been able to combine the freespace and unallocated. EnablebigLBA was not in registery after SP 2 install. I got Western Digital Data Lifegaurd to add Enablebiglba = 1. Drive is still reported as above. I want to create one drive with the remaining room; should be 100g. Can't? Please tell me if SP2 indeed includes enablebiglba. Is my drive stable? How to create a 100g partition using the all of the remaining room. Why is XP only reporting the drive as 149.05g instead of the 160g the BIOS reports? To really fix the problem, I am willing, if need be, to wipe the drive again spend another night reinstalling everything. Thanks.. Neil . |
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XP SP2 EnablebigLBA=1 Hard Drive Parition > 137g
Thanks for your help. Do you have recommendation for a
partition manager? Also, can anyone confirm XP SP2 contains the fixes for EnablebigLBA that SP1 did? If so, why didn't SP2 install EnablebigLBA=1 on installation? As for me using Fat32, I have much more experience using FAT32. This is my first time using NTFS. I hope it is better than FAT32 performance and recovery wise. I wanted to stop XP from installing and used FAT32 as I knew the associated Fdisk was a safe bet to restore the drive to a bare drive. Can you tell my why XP SP2 placed 69g of freespace and 21g unallocated? Why wasn't all freespace or unallocated so that I can create one large partition. I have no extended partitions on this drive. After setting up both, the 69g formatted to logical drive and the 21 unallocated formatted to a primary partition. Do you think they are stable and usable configured the way they are? I understand what all of you are saying about the actual disk size reported but why then, does my other Western Digital 60g EIDE and Seagate 9g SCSI hard drive actually report the correct drive size in Disk Manager when the new 160g is reported with less? Is there a way to get SP1? Thanks.. Neil -----Original Message----- Hello all, I am another lucky XP Pro user with another hard drive 137g problem. I bought a Western Digital 160g EIDE hard drive and proceeded to do a new installtion of XP. When I first set up a partition on the drive, formatted NTFS, my BIOS could not see the whole 160g. Researched the problem and found out I need to upgrade BIOS, which I did. Bios now reports 160g primary master. Tried to delete new NTFS parition but was forced to format FAT32 over it. Used old Fdisk to remove all partitions. Reboot. When the drive was bare again, created new 20g and 40g partition. Formatted and installed XP on 20g partition. Installtion went well. Tried to download SP1 to get support for hard drive 137g. XP SP1 is no longer available. Microsoft claims that all SP1 fixes are in SP2 and I do not need SP1. Installed SP2 and XP lists the drive as 149.05g not the 160g it really is. Remaining 90g (should be 100g) is listed in disk manager as 69.40 freespace and 21.06 unallocated. I have not been able to combine the freespace and unallocated. EnablebigLBA was not in registery after SP 2 install. I got Western Digital Data Lifegaurd to add Enablebiglba = 1. Drive is still reported as above. I want to create one drive with the remaining room; should be 100g. Can't? Please tell me if SP2 indeed includes enablebiglba. Is my drive stable? How to create a 100g partition using the all of the remaining room. Why is XP only reporting the drive as 149.05g instead of the 160g the BIOS reports? To really fix the problem, I am willing, if need be, to wipe the drive again spend another night reinstalling everything. Thanks.. Neil . |
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Regarding the recommendation, I find Partitionmagic to be very good (although
not free). I can't confirm whether the "Big" support is in SP2, but if it was in the first one, it will be in the new one. I couldn't say why the registry value wan't in there, maybe it isn't needed. My guess as to the reason the remaining space was not put into one partition is that the BIOS upgrade hadn't occured when the second partition was created, not allowing all of it to be used. Also, Windows doesn't automatically create the partitions, either, you have to do that yourself and specify how big you want the partitions. You may have done this in the process of installing Windows originally, when the SP2 hadn't been installed. What steps did you follow to make the partitions the way they are? In other words, when did you ask Windows to use the unpartitioned space to make the remaining partition with respect to the SP2 and BIOS upgrades. The partitions you describe as having (20, 40, 69.4) add up to approximately 137GB if you do the conversions, so I suspect the remaining space was created before the "Big" support was enabled. "neil" wrote: Thanks for your help. Do you have recommendation for a partition manager? Also, can anyone confirm XP SP2 contains the fixes for EnablebigLBA that SP1 did? If so, why didn't SP2 install EnablebigLBA=1 on installation? As for me using Fat32, I have much more experience using FAT32. This is my first time using NTFS. I hope it is better than FAT32 performance and recovery wise. I wanted to stop XP from installing and used FAT32 as I knew the associated Fdisk was a safe bet to restore the drive to a bare drive. Can you tell my why XP SP2 placed 69g of freespace and 21g unallocated? Why wasn't all freespace or unallocated so that I can create one large partition. I have no extended partitions on this drive. After setting up both, the 69g formatted to logical drive and the 21 unallocated formatted to a primary partition. Do you think they are stable and usable configured the way they are? I understand what all of you are saying about the actual disk size reported but why then, does my other Western Digital 60g EIDE and Seagate 9g SCSI hard drive actually report the correct drive size in Disk Manager when the new 160g is reported with less? Is there a way to get SP1? Thanks.. Neil -----Original Message----- You need a 3rd party tool to combine a current partition with unallocated space. If you want to do it without suc a tool, trash your 40GB partition and remake a new partition with all the unpartitioned space. To do this, go to control panel/performance and maintenance/administrative tools and click on Computer Management. Go to the disk management tab, and right click on the partition you want removed. Once you have done that, make a new partition with the remaining space using the same program. BTW your reported disk size is normal, you don't actually have 160GB of usable space. The BIOS lists it in metric terms, Windows lists it in binary equivalent terms. I hope this helps. I fint it curious that you had to use FAT32 instead of NTFS, can you explain in more detail? "Neil" wrote: Hello all, I am another lucky XP Pro user with another hard drive 137g problem. I bought a Western Digital 160g EIDE hard drive and proceeded to do a new installtion of XP. When I first set up a partition on the drive, formatted NTFS, my BIOS could not see the whole 160g. Researched the problem and found out I need to upgrade BIOS, which I did. Bios now reports 160g primary master. Tried to delete new NTFS parition but was forced to format FAT32 over it. Used old Fdisk to remove all partitions. Reboot. When the drive was bare again, created new 20g and 40g partition. Formatted and installed XP on 20g partition. Installtion went well. Tried to download SP1 to get support for hard drive 137g. XP SP1 is no longer available. Microsoft claims that all SP1 fixes are in SP2 and I do not need SP1. Installed SP2 and XP lists the drive as 149.05g not the 160g it really is. Remaining 90g (should be 100g) is listed in disk manager as 69.40 freespace and 21.06 unallocated. I have not been able to combine the freespace and unallocated. EnablebigLBA was not in registery after SP 2 install. I got Western Digital Data Lifegaurd to add Enablebiglba = 1. Drive is still reported as above. I want to create one drive with the remaining room; should be 100g. Can't? Please tell me if SP2 indeed includes enablebiglba. Is my drive stable? How to create a 100g partition using the all of the remaining room. Why is XP only reporting the drive as 149.05g instead of the 160g the BIOS reports? To really fix the problem, I am willing, if need be, to wipe the drive again spend another night reinstalling everything. Thanks.. Neil . |
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XP SP2 EnablebigLBA=1 Hard Drive Parition > 137g
Neil wrote:
I bought a Western Digital 160g EIDE hard drive and proceeded to do a new installtion of XP. When I first set up a partition on the drive, formatted NTFS, my BIOS could not see the whole 160g. Researched the problem and found out I need to upgrade BIOS, which I did. Bios now reports 160g primary master. Tried to delete new NTFS parition but was forced to format FAT32 over it. Used old Fdisk to remove all partitions. DON'T use FDISK for this. It falls over well before you get to this size. Boot the XP CD direct. Enter Setup, and after the license agreement take New Install. When it asks you to confirm where, hit ESC; select and delete the current partition and make a new RAW one to be formatted at the next stage. Keep that to a modest size - it is in any case a mistake to try to install system and all on a partition of this size The important point is the delete. Without that it will just go ahead and make a new install over the top of the old one Once running, upgrade to at least SP1 so as to have 48 bit LBA support; preferably have a free SP2 CD and run that as first action (and do not go on the net until you have at least the basic firewall in place) Now Control Panel - Admin Tools - Computer Management, select Disk Management and look lower right for the graphic of the drive.. Right click in the Unallocated space and you will be able to make a partition of the rest of it -- Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies) Bournemouth, U.K. (remove the D8 bit) |
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On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 21:08:43 -0700, "Neil" wrote:
Thanks for your help. Do you have recommendation for a partition manager? Also, can anyone confirm XP SP2 contains the fixes for EnablebigLBA that SP1 did? If so, why didn't SP2 install EnablebigLBA=1 on installation? From: Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 303013 [303013 - How to enable 48-bit Logical Block Addressing support for ATAPI disk drives in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];303013: Note The previous registry setting (referring to EnableBigLba) is ignored in Windows XP SP1 and later. As for me using Fat32, I have much more experience using FAT32. This is my first time using NTFS. I hope it is better than FAT32 performance and recovery wise. I wanted to stop XP from installing and used FAT32 as I knew the associated Fdisk was a safe bet to restore the drive to a bare drive. Can you tell my why XP SP2 placed 69g of freespace and 21g unallocated? Why wasn't all freespace or unallocated so that I can create one large partition. The reason this happened is because you created the 40GB logical drive, which caused the Windows XP setup program to create an extended partition with the rest of the drive that it was able to see at that time. After installing SP1 or SP2, use Disk Management to delete the 40GB partition. Then you will be able to create an extended partition that encompasses the rest of the entire drive. I have no extended partitions on this drive. After setting up both, the 69g formatted to logical drive and the 21 unallocated formatted to a primary partition. Do you think they are stable and usable configured the way they are? I understand what all of you are saying about the actual disk size reported but why then, does my other Western Digital 60g EIDE and Seagate 9g SCSI hard drive actually report the correct drive size in Disk Manager when the new 160g is reported with less? Is there a way to get SP1? Thanks.. Neil -----Original Message----- Hello all, I am another lucky XP Pro user with another hard drive 137g problem. I bought a Western Digital 160g EIDE hard drive and proceeded to do a new installtion of XP. When I first set up a partition on the drive, formatted NTFS, my BIOS could not see the whole 160g. Researched the problem and found out I need to upgrade BIOS, which I did. Bios now reports 160g primary master. Tried to delete new NTFS parition but was forced to format FAT32 over it. Used old Fdisk to remove all partitions. Reboot. When the drive was bare again, created new 20g and 40g partition. Formatted and installed XP on 20g partition. Installtion went well. Tried to download SP1 to get support for hard drive 137g. XP SP1 is no longer available. Microsoft claims that all SP1 fixes are in SP2 and I do not need SP1. Installed SP2 and XP lists the drive as 149.05g not the 160g it really is. Remaining 90g (should be 100g) is listed in disk manager as 69.40 freespace and 21.06 unallocated. I have not been able to combine the freespace and unallocated. EnablebigLBA was not in registery after SP 2 install. I got Western Digital Data Lifegaurd to add Enablebiglba = 1. Drive is still reported as above. I want to create one drive with the remaining room; should be 100g. Can't? Please tell me if SP2 indeed includes enablebiglba. Is my drive stable? How to create a 100g partition using the all of the remaining room. Why is XP only reporting the drive as 149.05g instead of the 160g the BIOS reports? To really fix the problem, I am willing, if need be, to wipe the drive again spend another night reinstalling everything. Thanks.. Neil . |
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