SP2 problem I can't live with

BeeGee wrote:
David Jabaroth wrote:
HI Joshua.

Just upgrated my PC to win xp sp2 rtm.

Got the same problem as you with hanging.

Solve the problem by uninstalling my Canon MPC190 printer

It is the only problem I have and SP" is really great.

I gess that it is one of yors drivers there have the same problem.

Try to find out witch driver there cause the problem, uninstall it
and injoy SP2

Best regards

David Jabaroth


I'm having the same problem with my Canon Multipass F60. I'm working
with Canon right now, but no joy so far.

I am starting to suspect that whatever in SP2 that causes problems
with programs using 127.0.0.2 (turning the firewall off does not
improve
things -- this blocking seems to be deeper than that) is causing the
problem with our Canon multifunction machines, since Mpservice
communicates using that IP.

If anyone can confirm that, please let both Canon and MS know -- the
sooner this is fixed the better. This involves a signed driver, too.

And the answer from Canon was to change the IP entry in
MpNetIpc.ini from 127.0.0.2 to 127.0.0.1

It worked. YMMV

The problem is limited to installation; once installed, it works fine.
So if you have 5.2 installed, DO NOT remove it. Also, I believe that
the problem only occurs with SOME AMD CPUs, not with other models and
not with Intel CPUs (specifically, it occurs only with CPUs that support
a relatively new feature, the "execute only" flag).

I believe that there is a workaround, but I don't recall what it is
(although I just read about it today). It may have to do with
[temporarily] removing support for "execute only" in SP2.

Larry wrote:

Joshua:

I have read that DivX 5.2 presents problems within XP SP2.
If you have this version of DivX installed, you should uninstall it,
reboot, and see what happens.

I have also heard that the prior version of DivX, v5.1, does not
generate this problem in SP2. So if uninstalling v5.2 works for you,
then you may want to consider installing v5.1 if you must have DivX.

Larry

"Joshua Heslinga" wrote in message ...

I have a Dell Latitude D600 that came with XP SP1 on it.
(More details about the computer below.)

I recently installed SP2 (the full, RTM, English
version). The install seemed to go fine, the computer
initially seemed to work, and I like the SP2 features,
but I then discovered a problem that I can't live with.
Whenever I right-click in Explorer, the Explorer process
seems to hang (the computer just sits for a while and you
can't do anything). By Explorer, I mean Windows Explorer
or the Windows shell, NOT IE. The first time this
happens, it'll restart Explorer and generate an error
report. The second and subsequent times, Explorer doesn't
restart, and you have to reboot.

This problem does not happen with right-clicking inside
an application (e.g. Word).

I would be inclined to assume a 3rd party software
conflict, and I do have some utilities installed, but the
problem occurs in XP Safe Mode too, when none of these
utilities should be active.

I opted to uninstall SP2 for now, and sure enough, the
problem went away.

Obviously, uninstalling SP2 isn't a long term solution.
And no, I'm not interested in anyone whose solution is
not to install SP2 right away. Microsoft hasn't updated a
released service pack to fix a bug since NT 4 SP6. XP SP2
is important, so I have to solve the problem eventually.

Thanks for any help people can offer.

Joshua Heslinga

Relevant Software/Hardware Installed on this Computer:
Microsoft USB Optical mouse
Diskeeper 8.0
Undelete 3.0
Norton Personal Firewall 2004 (updated for XP SP2)
Symantec AntiVirus Corporate Edition 8.1
all critical updates pre-SP2

NobodyMan wrote in message . ..

What? It is not Microsoft's responsibility to ensure that every
software package out there won't cause system problems and conflicts
with their software. They make the SP candidate available to
developers and then it is the DEVELOPERS job to make sure the
conflicts are taken care of.

How about when your software works fine with all the betas, and the
release candidates.
Then the RTM version comes out, everyone is downloading it, and it is
different, and your software no longer works. You've lost any lead
time to develop a fix.
I am a developer, I have checked my software with every version from
Windows 95 to XP SP2 RC2 and it has worked perfectly. I've done my
due dilligence. But when MS changes things between the last RC and
the full release, what are we supposed to do?

Hi, if your unable to install Dx, see here for a workaround
http://support.divx.com/cgi-bin/divx...hp?p_faqid=731
Chris C
"Barry Watzman" wrote in message
...
The problem is limited to installation; once installed, it works fine. So
if you have 5.2 installed, DO NOT remove it. Also, I believe that the
problem only occurs with SOME AMD CPUs, not with other models and not with
Intel CPUs (specifically, it occurs only with CPUs that support a
relatively new feature, the "execute only" flag).

I believe that there is a workaround, but I don't recall what it is
(although I just read about it today). It may have to do with
[temporarily] removing support for "execute only" in SP2.

Larry wrote:

Joshua:

I have read that DivX 5.2 presents problems within XP SP2.
If you have this version of DivX installed, you should uninstall it,
reboot, and see what happens.

I have also heard that the prior version of DivX, v5.1, does not
generate this problem in SP2. So if uninstalling v5.2 works for you,
then you may want to consider installing v5.1 if you must have DivX.

Larry

"Joshua Heslinga" wrote in message
...

I have a Dell Latitude D600 that came with XP SP1 on it. (More details
about the computer below.)

I recently installed SP2 (the full, RTM, English version). The install
seemed to go fine, the computer initially seemed to work, and I like the
SP2 features, but I then discovered a problem that I can't live with.
Whenever I right-click in Explorer, the Explorer process seems to hang
(the computer just sits for a while and you can't do anything). By
Explorer, I mean Windows Explorer or the Windows shell, NOT IE. The first
time this happens, it'll restart Explorer and generate an error report.
The second and subsequent times, Explorer doesn't restart, and you have
to reboot.

This problem does not happen with right-clicking inside an application
(e.g. Word).

I would be inclined to assume a 3rd party software conflict, and I do
have some utilities installed, but the problem occurs in XP Safe Mode
too, when none of these utilities should be active.

I opted to uninstall SP2 for now, and sure enough, the problem went away.

Obviously, uninstalling SP2 isn't a long term solution. And no, I'm not
interested in anyone whose solution is not to install SP2 right away.
Microsoft hasn't updated a released service pack to fix a bug since NT 4
SP6. XP SP2 is important, so I have to solve the problem eventually.

Thanks for any help people can offer.

Joshua Heslinga

Relevant Software/Hardware Installed on this Computer:
Microsoft USB Optical mouse
Diskeeper 8.0
Undelete 3.0
Norton Personal Firewall 2004 (updated for XP SP2)
Symantec AntiVirus Corporate Edition 8.1
all critical updates pre-SP2

On 12 Aug 2004 19:28:30 -0700, wrote:

NobodyMan wrote in message . ..

What? It is not Microsoft's responsibility to ensure that every
software package out there won't cause system problems and conflicts
with their software. They make the SP candidate available to
developers and then it is the DEVELOPERS job to make sure the
conflicts are taken care of.

How about when your software works fine with all the betas, and the
release candidates.
Then the RTM version comes out, everyone is downloading it, and it is
different, and your software no longer works. You've lost any lead
time to develop a fix.
I am a developer, I have checked my software with every version from
Windows 95 to XP SP2 RC2 and it has worked perfectly. I've done my
due dilligence. But when MS changes things between the last RC and
the full release, what are we supposed to do?

You've got a legitimate gripe then, and I won't deny that. My message
was directed at the person who blamed MS for the problem they were
having as though it was all the fault of MS.

It does not work for me after changing the IP.

however

I manage to get my canon printer MPC190 working after the SP2 upgrade + no
more "hang" when opening window explorer.

what i did. (logged) CHEERS!!!

1. Boot in Safe Mode
2. Remove all multipass software from add/remove programme
3. Delete the default folder for Canon Multipass (programs folder)
4. Open registry and search for "canon" & "multipass"
5. Delete all related registry highlighted for the above
6. Restart PC and start windows normally
7. Install Multipass software and Driver for Printer.
8. CHEERS!!! It Works....

*tinker* I guess the printer driver could not do a proper
migration/installation during the windows update to Service Pack 2. Need to
do a fresh install.


"BeeGee" wrote:

BeeGee wrote:
David Jabaroth wrote:
HI Joshua.

Just upgrated my PC to win xp sp2 rtm.

Got the same problem as you with hanging.

Solve the problem by uninstalling my Canon MPC190 printer

It is the only problem I have and SP" is really great.

I gess that it is one of yors drivers there have the same problem.

Try to find out witch driver there cause the problem, uninstall it
and injoy SP2

Best regards

David Jabaroth


I'm having the same problem with my Canon Multipass F60. I'm working
with Canon right now, but no joy so far.

I am starting to suspect that whatever in SP2 that causes problems
with programs using 127.0.0.2 (turning the firewall off does not
improve
things -- this blocking seems to be deeper than that) is causing the
problem with our Canon multifunction machines, since Mpservice
communicates using that IP.

If anyone can confirm that, please let both Canon and MS know -- the
sooner this is fixed the better. This involves a signed driver, too.

And the answer from Canon was to change the IP entry in
MpNetIpc.ini from 127.0.0.2 to 127.0.0.1

It worked. YMMV