Replace Mobo in XP??

"Diogenes" wrote in message
s.com...
jim wrote:
"-Cryogenic-©" wrote in message
...
Zknb wrote:

Really?

I have swapped quite a few motherboards with XP Pro.

When XP restarted it detected all the new hardware and installed (or
asked for) any new drivers that were needed.

Never had a problem...

And if it doesn't work (it doesn't always work), you resort to the
"repair install" method. That's what we're all trying to tell the
guy!

Not all but just a few wackos unable to deal with the fact that an
alternative does exist.

Yes, I see all of your believers supporting you.

Have you considered holding your breath and stomping your feet until
someone
agrees with you?

--
Diogenes

What do you think will happen 1st?
He'll pass out. Or his feet will get too sore to continue stomping.

Diogenes wrote:
jim wrote:
"-Cryogenic-©" wrote in message
...
Zknb wrote:

Really?

I have swapped quite a few motherboards with XP Pro.

When XP restarted it detected all the new hardware and installed
(or asked for) any new drivers that were needed.

Never had a problem...

And if it doesn't work (it doesn't always work), you resort to the
"repair install" method. That's what we're all trying to tell the
guy!

Not all but just a few wackos unable to deal with the fact that an
alternative does exist.

Yes, I see all of your believers supporting you.

Have you considered holding your breath and stomping your feet until
someone agrees with you?

Maybe they're all confusing XP with win98. With all the ****e those turds
spout, it' wouldn't be a surprise.

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Windows XP Problem and Troubleshooting Resources
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jim wrote:
"Zknb" rtjeopr.com
wrote in message
st.giganews.com...
Really?

I have swapped quite a few motherboards with XP Pro.

When XP restarted it detected all the new hardware and installed (or
asked for) any new drivers that were needed.

Never had a problem...

Yep, that's what many report even when the mobos use different
chipsets. If the multiprocessor and/or ACPI situation chnages then
things aren't quite that easy but still tractable.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!!

I'm trying to gather more information from folks on exactly what works
transparently and what needs a like help with respect to HW changes.

Real meaning: The ****wit needs to do more research before he'll correct his
"guess".

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wojo wrote:
"Diogenes" wrote in message
s.com...
jim wrote:
"-Cryogenic-©" wrote in message
...
Zknb wrote:

Really?

I have swapped quite a few motherboards with XP Pro.

When XP restarted it detected all the new hardware and installed
(or asked for) any new drivers that were needed.

Never had a problem...

And if it doesn't work (it doesn't always work), you resort to the
"repair install" method. That's what we're all trying to tell the
guy!

Not all but just a few wackos unable to deal with the fact that an
alternative does exist.

Yes, I see all of your believers supporting you.

Have you considered holding your breath and stomping your feet until
someone
agrees with you?


What do you think will happen 1st?
He'll pass out. Or his feet will get too sore to continue stomping.

To him, it has become a Holy Grail. Surely his flock of followers will save
him... before he loses consciousness. Let's hope he does in on the rim of
Kilauea.

--
Diogenes

Kadaitcha Man wrote:
Diogenes wrote:
jim wrote:
"-Cryogenic-©" wrote in message
...
Zknb wrote:

Really?

I have swapped quite a few motherboards with XP Pro.

When XP restarted it detected all the new hardware and installed
(or asked for) any new drivers that were needed.

Never had a problem...

And if it doesn't work (it doesn't always work), you resort to the
"repair install" method. That's what we're all trying to tell the
guy!

Not all but just a few wackos unable to deal with the fact that an
alternative does exist.

Yes, I see all of your believers supporting you.

Have you considered holding your breath and stomping your feet until
someone agrees with you?

Maybe they're all confusing XP with win98. With all the ****e those
turds spout, it' wouldn't be a surprise.

Well, he did cross-post to the microsoft.public groups. Someone there will
pick up on his thoery and start citing it as if it were bible.

--
- relic -
Don't take life too seriously, You won't get out alive.

"Diogenes" wrote in message
s.com...
wojo wrote:
"Diogenes" wrote in message
s.com...
jim wrote:
"-Cryogenic-©" wrote in message
...
Zknb wrote:

Really?

I have swapped quite a few motherboards with XP Pro.

When XP restarted it detected all the new hardware and installed
(or asked for) any new drivers that were needed.

Never had a problem...

And if it doesn't work (it doesn't always work), you resort to the
"repair install" method. That's what we're all trying to tell the
guy!

Not all but just a few wackos unable to deal with the fact that an
alternative does exist.

Yes, I see all of your believers supporting you.

Have you considered holding your breath and stomping your feet until
someone
agrees with you?


What do you think will happen 1st?
He'll pass out. Or his feet will get too sore to continue stomping.

To him, it has become a Holy Grail. Surely his flock of followers will
save
him... before he loses consciousness. Let's hope he does in on the rim of
Kilauea.

--
Diogenes


Except so far I haven't seen any followers

"relic" wrote in message
news
Kadaitcha Man wrote:
Diogenes wrote:
jim wrote:
"-Cryogenic-©" wrote in message
...
Zknb wrote:

Really?

I have swapped quite a few motherboards with XP Pro.

When XP restarted it detected all the new hardware and installed
(or asked for) any new drivers that were needed.

Never had a problem...

And if it doesn't work (it doesn't always work), you resort to the
"repair install" method. That's what we're all trying to tell the
guy!

Not all but just a few wackos unable to deal with the fact that an
alternative does exist.

Yes, I see all of your believers supporting you.

Have you considered holding your breath and stomping your feet until
someone agrees with you?

Maybe they're all confusing XP with win98. With all the ****e those
turds spout, it' wouldn't be a surprise.

Well, he did cross-post to the microsoft.public groups. Someone there
will
pick up on his thoery and start citing it as if it were bible.

--
- relic -
Don't take life too seriously, You won't get out alive.


I am reading it from a Microsoft public group.
Nobody here agreeing with him either

wojo wrote:
"Diogenes" wrote in message
s.com...
wojo wrote:
"Diogenes" wrote in message
s.com...
jim wrote:
"-Cryogenic-©" wrote in message
...
Zknb wrote:

Really?

I have swapped quite a few motherboards with XP Pro.

When XP restarted it detected all the new hardware and installed
(or asked for) any new drivers that were needed.

Never had a problem...

And if it doesn't work (it doesn't always work), you resort to
the "repair install" method. That's what we're all trying to
tell the guy!

Not all but just a few wackos unable to deal with the fact that an
alternative does exist.

Yes, I see all of your believers supporting you.

Have you considered holding your breath and stomping your feet
until someone
agrees with you?


What do you think will happen 1st?
He'll pass out. Or his feet will get too sore to continue stomping.

To him, it has become a Holy Grail. Surely his flock of followers
will save
him... before he loses consciousness. Let's hope he does in on the
rim of Kilauea.


Except so far I haven't seen any followers

Well, yes... there _is_ that. But, his last post said that the "wackos" that
didn't agree were "just a few." I wonder where they are.

--
Diogenes

wojo wrote:
"relic" wrote in message
news
Kadaitcha Man wrote:
Diogenes wrote:
jim wrote:
"-Cryogenic-©" wrote in message
...
Zknb wrote:

Really?

I have swapped quite a few motherboards with XP Pro.

When XP restarted it detected all the new hardware and installed
(or asked for) any new drivers that were needed.

Never had a problem...

And if it doesn't work (it doesn't always work), you resort to
the "repair install" method. That's what we're all trying to
tell the guy!

Not all but just a few wackos unable to deal with the fact that an
alternative does exist.

Yes, I see all of your believers supporting you.

Have you considered holding your breath and stomping your feet
until someone agrees with you?

Maybe they're all confusing XP with win98. With all the ****e those
turds spout, it' wouldn't be a surprise.

Well, he did cross-post to the microsoft.public groups. Someone
there will
pick up on his thoery and start citing it as if it were bible.


I am reading it from a Microsoft public group.
Nobody here agreeing with him either

*Blink* 8-o

--
- relic -
Don't take life too seriously, You won't get out alive.

"Diogenes" wrote in message
s.com...
wojo wrote:
"Diogenes" wrote in message
s.com...
wojo wrote:
"Diogenes" wrote in message
s.com...
jim wrote:
"-Cryogenic-©" wrote in message
...
Zknb wrote:

Really?

I have swapped quite a few motherboards with XP Pro.

When XP restarted it detected all the new hardware and installed
(or asked for) any new drivers that were needed.

Never had a problem...

And if it doesn't work (it doesn't always work), you resort to
the "repair install" method. That's what we're all trying to
tell the guy!

Not all but just a few wackos unable to deal with the fact that an
alternative does exist.

Yes, I see all of your believers supporting you.

Have you considered holding your breath and stomping your feet
until someone
agrees with you?


What do you think will happen 1st?
He'll pass out. Or his feet will get too sore to continue stomping.

To him, it has become a Holy Grail. Surely his flock of followers
will save
him... before he loses consciousness. Let's hope he does in on the
rim of Kilauea.


Except so far I haven't seen any followers

Well, yes... there _is_ that. But, his last post said that the "wackos"
that
didn't agree were "just a few." I wonder where they are.

--
Diogenes



I haven't been able to figure that one out either.

"wojo" wrote in message
...

"Diogenes" wrote in message
s.com...
wojo wrote:
"Diogenes" wrote in message
s.com...
jim wrote:
"-Cryogenic-©" wrote in message
...
Zknb wrote:

Really?

I have swapped quite a few motherboards with XP Pro.

When XP restarted it detected all the new hardware and installed
(or asked for) any new drivers that were needed.

Never had a problem...

And if it doesn't work (it doesn't always work), you resort to the
"repair install" method. That's what we're all trying to tell the
guy!

Not all but just a few wackos unable to deal with the fact that an
alternative does exist.

Yes, I see all of your believers supporting you.

Have you considered holding your breath and stomping your feet until
someone
agrees with you?


What do you think will happen 1st?
He'll pass out. Or his feet will get too sore to continue stomping.

To him, it has become a Holy Grail. Surely his flock of followers will
save
him... before he loses consciousness. Let's hope he does in on the rim
of
Kilauea.

--
Diogenes


Except so far I haven't seen any followers

Except for the folks who report it works here for them and the web is full
of more such folks and the "how to-s" so associated. Just the local fogger
trolls are troubled and that's not surprising as they been telling folks
that it can't be done. Such folks always go crackers when they are shown to
have been blowing frags for sometime. Such trolls always attack the poster
rather than cite any real support for their debunked assertions.

Notice how they form up into little troll packs. If one views their posting
history in Google Groups then what they are becomes apparent.

wojo wrote:

And if it doesn't work (it doesn't always work), you resort to the "repair
install" method. That's what we're all trying to tell the guy!

I hadn't bothered posting to this one because the guy obviously doesn't want
to listen but just for kicks I'll put my vote in as well.
Repair install is the easiest least painful way to do a Mobo change unless
you get lucky and XP see's the Mobo on it's own.
There thats what like 20 votes for a epair install now? lol

An XP repair install is like deleting the HKEY LM | Enum branch in w9x
after installing a new mobo. Of course, it may not be needed if XP, or
in the past, if win9X found all the new resources and had no problem
"ignoring" the old resources. So I guess I agree. Oh, I also recommend
snipping the troll NG if you notice it in the crosspost.


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wojo wrote:

And if it doesn't work (it doesn't always work), you resort to the "repair
install" method. That's what we're all trying to tell the guy!

I hadn't bothered posting to this one because the guy obviously doesn't want
to listen but just for kicks I'll put my vote in as well.
Repair install is the easiest least painful way to do a Mobo change unless
you get lucky and XP see's the Mobo on it's own.
There thats what like 20 votes for a epair install now? lol

An XP repair install is like deleting the HKEY LM | Enum branch in w9x
after installing a new mobo. Of course, it may not be needed if XP, or
in the past, if win9X found all the new resources and had no problem
"ignoring" the old resources. So I guess I agree. Oh, I also recommend
snipping the troll NG if you notice it in the crosspost.


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http://www.bootdisk.com/

Also be careful about not having any encrypted files or folders made
private. I remember that once I could not access my data after a new install
because I had password. Or learn how to back up your encryption keys.


"TT" wrote in message
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one_red_eye wrote:

"jim" wrote in message
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I'd like to ask some questions about replacing/changing a mobo in an XP

pro

system. I've done some research on this issue and have come to the

following

conclusions.

XP is not quite as Plug & Play as 98[SE] was in this regard. One can not
just take the OS HD and put it in another box and expect it to boot and
re-find everything and install all the appropriate drivers etc. like it
would in 98SE.

The limitations appear to be in two areas. The first is the HAL which is

a

function of the CPU and number thereof and presence/absence of ACPI mobo
BIOS. The second is the HD drivers.

I've found all sorts of site/articles regarding how to do this and fix

these

issues for the mobo ATA controller case. Other HD cases seem to be
tractable using the F6 install drivers(SCSI technique). One that seems
to
be similar to many others regarding the mobo ATA HD issue is:
www.mostlycreativeworkshop.com/article11.html

My conclusion is that one should make the registry and file additions on

any

XP system so that failure recovery on new hardware is more convenient at
a
later time. Am I missing something here or is that about right.

The second issue is that HAL. If the old and new systems are single CPU
ACPI mobos then everything works. It makes no difference is one is a VIA
chipset and Athlon and the other an Intel chipset and an Intel CPU. Do I
have this right so far?

If one is going from a single CPU case to a new P4 supporting HT then one
must force in a new HAL for multiprocessor ACPI. Apparently that can be
done in Recovery console or by putting the HD in another system where

files

may be manipulated before attempting a boot on the new mobo. Right so

far?

Are the above the only two issues? Will all the other gadgets and

chipsets

etc. be redetected and appropriate drivers installed? Will one be able
to
boot and move forward in most all cases if the above two issues are dealt
with?



Why not back up your data and reinstall on the new setup?
If the old MB is bad, install your drive as a slave in another PC then
backup.

I agree-why all the extra headache when you could just either back up
or install it as a slave or partition it first and dual boot?...

jim wrote:
"wojo" wrote in message
...
"Diogenes" wrote in message
s.com...
wojo wrote:
"Diogenes" wrote in message
s.com...
jim wrote:
"-Cryogenic-©" wrote in message
...
Zknb wrote:

Really?

I have swapped quite a few motherboards with XP Pro.

When XP restarted it detected all the new hardware and
installed (or asked for) any new drivers that were needed.

Never had a problem...

And if it doesn't work (it doesn't always work), you resort to
the "repair install" method. That's what we're all trying to
tell the guy!

Not all but just a few wackos unable to deal with the fact that
an alternative does exist.

Yes, I see all of your believers supporting you.

Have you considered holding your breath and stomping your feet
until someone
agrees with you?

What do you think will happen 1st?
He'll pass out. Or his feet will get too sore to continue stomping.

To him, it has become a Holy Grail. Surely his flock of followers
will save
him... before he loses consciousness. Let's hope he does in on the
rim of Kilauea.

Except so far I haven't seen any followers

Except for the folks who report it works here for them and the web is
full of more such folks and the "how to-s" so associated. Just the

Liar. Cites.

local fogger trolls are troubled and that's not surprising as they
been telling folks that it can't be done. Such folks always go
crackers when they are shown to have been blowing frags for sometime.

Liar. They know far more workable methods to do things than do you.

Such trolls always attack the poster rather than cite any real
support for their debunked assertions.

Liar. Only idiots (that would be you) get attacked.

Notice how they form up into little troll packs. If one views their
posting history in Google Groups then what they are becomes apparent.

Liar. If you knew how to use Google Groups, you wouldn't have made such an
absurd post in the first place.