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I signed up for Centurylink DSL yesterday. I'll get it by 9/26.
If anyone here uses DSL, especially Centurylink's, how does this work? DSL replaces ISP? Supplies email service? Supplies software to replace dial-up connection internet module? For XP Home? Supplies dial-up service if DSL service down? Any other clues or hints? I'd do a Google search but my 20K dial-up connection works very very slowly on web sites. Ken -- You know it's time to clean the refrigerator when something closes the door from the inside. |
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On 12 Sep 2014 14:15:26 GMT, KenK wrote:
I signed up for Centurylink DSL yesterday. I'll get it by 9/26. If anyone here uses DSL, especially Centurylink's, how does this work? DSL replaces ISP? No. They are two completely different things. DSL is a technology. Your ISP is a company. If you get DSL from Centurylink, then Centurylink will be your ISP. Supplies email service? Yes. At least in all the instances I've ever seen. Supplies software to replace dial-up connection internet module? For XP Home? No software is required. What's needed is built into Windows. Supplies dial-up service if DSL service down? I assume that that depends on who is providing the service. Ask Centurylink. |
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From: "KenK"
I signed up for Centurylink DSL yesterday. I'll get it by 9/26. If anyone here uses DSL, especially Centurylink's, how does this work? DSL replaces ISP? Supplies email service? Supplies software to replace dial-up connection internet module? For XP Home? Supplies dial-up service if DSL service down? Any other clues or hints? I'd do a Google search but my 20K dial-up connection works very very slowly on web sites. Ken DSL is just a typoe of Internet delivery to a subscriber over Twisted Pair wiring such as Plain Old Telephone System (POTS). ISP stands for Internet service Provider so an ISP can deliver any kind Internet based upon the technolgy they supply. A DSL provider is an ISP and theyt usually provide email accounts and may also supply sub-accounts. Some may supply DUN backup but you would really need a DSL Modem+Router with DUN fallover. Routers with DUN fallover lasted only a few years so they really aren't available anymore. A better fail over is Cellular Broadband 4G. NO software is require to access DSL. It is a DSL Modem that is required and associated DSL Filters. -- Dave Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp |
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On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 07:15:26 -0700, KenK wrote:
I signed up for Centurylink DSL yesterday. I'll get it by 9/26. If anyone here uses DSL, especially Centurylink's, how does this work? DSL replaces ISP? Supplies email service? Supplies software to replace dial-up connection internet module? For XP Home? Supplies dial-up service if DSL service down? Any other clues or hints? I'd do a Google search but my 20K dial-up connection works very very slowly on web sites. Ken I have basic Century Link here, and Direct TV satellite. Glad you asked! I'm in a rural area north of Phoenix. Neighbors with DSL would ask me [the resident electronic guru] "What speed should I get out here? Because 300kbps seems a bit slow for DSL." Used to get constant calls from Marketing at Century Link offering up to 7MBs DSL for 39.99/month. For a long time, even though they called, they couldn't even supply DSL here! But now they can supply 'dribbling' DSL. So, I said, great! How fast? they kept repeating, up to 7MBs. I said what if you don't supply that? Same price but you can get up to this fantastic speed, but a lot of people are happy with it. Knowing I'm 17,262 feet from their office, I said, "Ok, you install it and I'll pay you proportionately based upon the speed I get here." [between you and me, at that distance you don't get a lot of DSL speed. that comes out to around $1.79/month] They haven't called back since. Note they cheat slightly by using two phone lines in parallel to get the speed backup a bit. If it's any help every call to their service reaches a US citizen, not always around here but in the US. They did give me the name and number of a local repair technician [Phoenix Office] I can call and get very 'personalized' service from, albeit leaving meassage to call me back. But they'll do phone line checks and supply me the data so I can log any deterioration over time. |
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In KenK
wrote: I signed up for Centurylink DSL yesterday. I'll get it by 9/26. If anyone here uses DSL, especially Centurylink's, how does this work? I've had US West/Qwest/CenturyLink DSL service for as long as they've offered it. It's worked well, but if you have problems caused by failure of their equipment, it's hard to get them to admit it's their problem. DSL replaces ISP? Supplies email service? Unless you made other arrangements, yes. If you're getting ADSL2+ or fiber service, then no other arrangements are available. BUT! These are questions you should have asked before you signed up. I hope you get something in writing from them with a username, email address, default password and the like that you'll need in order to use your service. Supplies software to replace dial-up connection internet module? For XP Home? That's built in to XP. You'll probably get setup info with the modem, possibly on a CD. Supplies dial-up service if DSL service down? Maybe. -- St. Paul, MN |
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RobertMacy wrote:
On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 07:15:26 -0700, KenK wrote: I signed up for Centurylink DSL yesterday. I'll get it by 9/26. If anyone here uses DSL, especially Centurylink's, how does this work? DSL replaces ISP? Supplies email service? Supplies software to replace dial-up connection internet module? For XP Home? Supplies dial-up service if DSL service down? Any other clues or hints? I'd do a Google search but my 20K dial-up connection works very very slowly on web sites. Ken I have basic Century Link here, and Direct TV satellite. Glad you asked! I'm in a rural area north of Phoenix. Neighbors with DSL would ask me [the resident electronic guru] "What speed should I get out here? Because 300kbps seems a bit slow for DSL." Used to get constant calls from Marketing at Century Link offering up to 7MBs DSL for 39.99/month. For a long time, even though they called, they couldn't even supply DSL here! But now they can supply 'dribbling' DSL. So, I said, great! How fast? they kept repeating, up to 7MBs. I said what if you don't supply that? Same price but you can get up to this fantastic speed, but a lot of people are happy with it. Knowing I'm 17,262 feet from their office, I said, "Ok, you install it and I'll pay you proportionately based upon the speed I get here." [between you and me, at that distance you don't get a lot of DSL speed. that comes out to around $1.79/month] They haven't called back since. Note they cheat slightly by using two phone lines in parallel to get the speed backup a bit. If it's any help every call to their service reaches a US citizen, not always around here but in the US. They did give me the name and number of a local repair technician [Phoenix Office] I can call and get very 'personalized' service from, albeit leaving meassage to call me back. But they'll do phone line checks and supply me the data so I can log any deterioration over time. There is a distance versus speed graph on the bottom of this page. The horizontal axis is in meters. At 5500 meters (~18000 feet), the powder blue curve has dropped to zero. There are USA ADSL providers offering 18000 foot and 36000 foot distribution plans, but the 36000 foot option can't really do all that much better. I don't think they "over-promise" quite as much, if using 36000 feet. http://www.internode.on.net/resident...d/performance/ That set of curves corresponds to the "old way" to deliver ADSL. A large central office, with POTS telephone lines snaking out in bundles, to individual neighborhoods. That's how they originally delivered my ADSL. twisted pair ADSL modem Central_Office ---------------------------------------- Your_house copper line In urban areas, they now use concentrators. That is a powered box with electronics in it. It delivers ADSL with the starting distance measured from the box on the corner of your street. Mine is maybe 500 feet of wire from the box. It "buffers" the signal, so no danger of hitting an 18000 foot limit. The fiber distance doesn't count, as single mode fiber can go quite long distances (for a price). fiber twisted pair ADSL modem Central_Office ------------ concentrator ------------------ My_house (has a cooling (500 feet) fan that runs all the time) In rural areas, especially areas that were slow to ever get ADSL, such a distribution scheme is not very practical. For example, our box uses a pre-existing fiber optic cable already in the ground. Fiber was buried in the ground here, as part of a field trial. Su they didn't even need to trench back to the CO, to put in my concentrator-type box. They put that trench in years ago, while doing some other maintenance. So the "Crapitude" of the "up to 7Mbit/sec but only delivers 0.3Mbit/sec" style of service, would be more common in a rural setting. Because I get my ADSL from a reseller here, the telephone company that owns the physical facility, keeps my rate turned down :-( When there is absolutely no need of doing that. Paul |
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KenK wrote:
I signed up for Centurylink DSL yesterday. I'll get it by 9/26. If anyone here uses DSL, especially Centurylink's, how does this work? DSL replaces ISP? Supplies email service? Supplies software to replace dial-up connection internet module? For XP Home? Supplies dial-up service if DSL service down? Any other clues or hints? I'd do a Google search but my 20K dial-up connection works very very slowly on web sites. Ken Dialup equipment would look like this. This would be your current setup. Central_Office ----------------------------- dialup modem --- (PPP protocol twisted pair copper (internal or already in external) WinXP) ******* With ADSL, there are a couple possibilities. For a single computer usage, you can hook up direct to a cheap modem. No router at all in this picture. They don't really make modems any more that don't have a router, but this is what my very first ADSL setup looked like. Ethernet Central_Office ------------- ADSL modem ------------ (PPPOE protocol twisted already in pair WinXP) copper You can use ADSL modem alone, ADSL modem plus external router box, or combo ADSL modem/router box (most common offering today). That gives more than one Ethernet connector on the box, or provides Wifi, so no cable has to run to the computer. To use a Wifi router, you'd need a Wifi receiver on the computer end. But we'll just draw an Ethernet cable picture first. Eth Eth Central_Office -------- ADSL modem ----- router ------- No special twisted (terminates software at all pair PPPOE in the for the OS copper router) (WinXP computer) When you use a Wifi router, the last hop uses radio waves. The Wifi router has its own antenna. An older computer, would need a Wifi card added to it, to be wireless. You can even get add-on Wifi in the form of a USB dongle. + + Eth /\/ \/\ Central_Office -------- ADSL modem ----- router Wifi driver twisted (terminates (WinXP computer) pair PPPOE in the copper router) So those are some possibilities for your hookup. Generally, they include enough stuff (a short Ethernet cable with the ADSL modem), you should be ready to do a test when the service is turned up. Mine took *three weeks* to install, in grand incompetent telco style... Nobody knew what was going on, I got the run-around. I finally found an employee who knew the right person to call, and it was working the next day. That guy is no longer at the mall (we can't have responsive customer service after all, better to have someone in India do that). At the phone company, the data fill is typically updated at midnight. That is to make billing precise, a "precise number of days of service". So the service should start, just after midnight. YMMV of course. Because humans are involved. You can have both dialup and ADSL on the same line. For example, if you continued to pay for dialup service, the ADSL stopped working at some point in time, you could use the dialup modem. For a year, I had an overlap between Freenet and ADSL. When the ADSL went off (and it did), I could dialup using Freenet and check the ADSL provider web page. That was easier than sitting on hold on the phone for 45 minutes, to get a human to tell me it was broken. I never attempted any tests, such as running dialup on one computer, ADSL to a second computer, to see if they could actually co-exist at the same time. But if the ADSL went off, for as long as I had Freenet, I could check the web page. The reason I no longer have Freenet, is Freenet isn't really free :-) Paul |
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Paul wrote in :
KenK wrote: I signed up for Centurylink DSL yesterday. I'll get it by 9/26. If anyone here uses DSL, especially Centurylink's, how does this work? DSL replaces ISP? Supplies email service? Supplies software to replace dial-up connection internet module? For XP Home? Supplies dial-up service if DSL service down? Any other clues or hints? I'd do a Google search but my 20K dial-up connection works very very slowly on web sites. Ken Dialup equipment would look like this. This would be your current setup. Central_Office ----------------------------- dialup modem --- (PPP protocol twisted pair copper (internal or already in external) WinXP) ******* With ADSL, there are a couple possibilities. For a single computer usage, you can hook up direct to a cheap modem. No router at all in this picture. They don't really make modems any more that don't have a router, but this is what my very first ADSL setup looked like. Ethernet Central_Office ------------- ADSL modem ------------ (PPPOE protocol twisted already in pair WinXP) copper You can use ADSL modem alone, ADSL modem plus external router box, or combo ADSL modem/router box (most common offering today). That gives more than one Ethernet connector on the box, or provides Wifi, so no cable has to run to the computer. To use a Wifi router, you'd need a Wifi receiver on the computer end. But we'll just draw an Ethernet cable picture first. Eth Eth Central_Office -------- ADSL modem ----- router ------- No special twisted (terminates software at all pair PPPOE in the for the OS copper router) (WinXP computer) When you use a Wifi router, the last hop uses radio waves. The Wifi router has its own antenna. An older computer, would need a Wifi card added to it, to be wireless. You can even get add-on Wifi in the form of a USB dongle. + + Eth /\/ \/\ Central_Office -------- ADSL modem ----- router Wifi driver twisted (terminates (WinXP computer) pair PPPOE in the copper router) So those are some possibilities for your hookup. Generally, they include enough stuff (a short Ethernet cable with the ADSL modem), you should be ready to do a test when the service is turned up. Mine took *three weeks* to install, in grand incompetent telco style... Nobody knew what was going on, I got the run-around. I finally found an employee who knew the right person to call, and it was working the next day. That guy is no longer at the mall (we can't have responsive customer service after all, better to have someone in India do that). At the phone company, the data fill is typically updated at midnight. That is to make billing precise, a "precise number of days of service". So the service should start, just after midnight. YMMV of course. Because humans are involved. You can have both dialup and ADSL on the same line. For example, if you continued to pay for dialup service, the ADSL stopped working at some point in time, you could use the dialup modem. For a year, I had an overlap between Freenet and ADSL. When the ADSL went off (and it did), I could dialup using Freenet and check the ADSL provider web page. That was easier than sitting on hold on the phone for 45 minutes, to get a human to tell me it was broken. I never attempted any tests, such as running dialup on one computer, ADSL to a second computer, to see if they could actually co-exist at the same time. But if the ADSL went off, for as long as I had Freenet, I could check the web page. The reason I no longer have Freenet, is Freenet isn't really free :-) Paul Thank you very much. Extremely informative, as usual! -- You know it's time to clean the refrigerator when something closes the door from the inside. |
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In message , KenK
writes: I signed up for Centurylink DSL yesterday. I'll get it by 9/26. If anyone here uses DSL, especially Centurylink's, how does this work? Paul's comprehensive answers supersede this, but here's my take! (The default here in UK - at least, for service supplied still via an old telephone line, i. e. they don't change anything in your house - is ADSL; when a USian talks about DSL, I'm not sure if they mean ADSL.) DSL replaces ISP? DSL is how they deliver and collect the bytes; ISP is the company you're dealing with. Supplies email service? That's independent of the delivery method: you send email via an SMTP server, and collect it via a POP (sometimes called POP3) or IMAP server. These two servers are computers at your ISP; how you connect to them doesn't necessarily change when you change from dialup to DSL. If you're changing ISP at the same time (have you been told your email address will change, for example?), then the servers you use will change and have to be changed in your email prog. (such as Outlook Express or Thunderbird); it is _possible_ that other things might have to change too (such as if they only offer IMAP and you've been used to using POP), but probably not. (I _said_ the send and receive email servers are at your ISP, because that's how most people do it; _some_ people, especially those who maintain a website/domain, often do things differently - i. e. the ISP provides them with the connection only, and they use mail servers - and other things - at other companies. I doubt this will apply to you.) (Note that you may have to reconfigure newsgroup access too: you seem to be using Xnews as your news software. Once again, news access is a separate matter from the connection method used to access it. However, in UK at least, many ISPs _don't_ provide news access as part of the service, unlike mail access, so you may have to change who you get that from. There are good free news suppliers [which is what I use for many newsgroups] and excellent cheap ones [one is 10 euros a year for example, IIRR].) Supplies software to replace dial-up connection internet module? For XP Home? You will need a - piece of hardware - MoDem to connect to the DSL, much as you do with dialup. For dialup, the MoDem may already be built into your PC (desktop or laptop): it's where the 'phone line plugs in. For DSL, it's likely to be an external box: I'm unaware of any DSL MoDem that's available as a PC card (let alone built into any laptop), though I'm not saying such don't exist. Often, these days - in fact almost always - the box will also contain a wifi router, which means you can connect your computer to the box wirelessly: virtually all laptops these days include wifi, though most desktops don't. (You can get wifi dongles from a couple of bucks upwards, that plug into a spare USB port. IME, unless you're going to be given a huge speed or your computer is a long way from where you're going to put the router, there's no point in paying more than you have to for this bit.) If the MoDem doesn't have wifi (or your computer doesn't and you don't want to add it), you'll have to connect to it by an ethernet cable: it will have a suitable socket, and hopefully so will your computer. (If you're going this route, make sure you have a cable! If unsure whether your computer has wifi, look in Start | Settings | Network connections; you should see your dialup connection, "Local Area Connection" if your computer has an ethernet port, and "Wireless Network Connection" if you have that. Along from Local Area Connection, it will probably say "Network cable unplugged" [it does here as I use wifi].) The _software_ part of the connection is already part of XP, much as it was/is with your dialup connection. You'll just plug in the DSL box, and magically you'll have an internet connection. (Well, if wifi is involved, you'll have to set that up. Try _not_ to load any software that comes with the kit, unless you're adding a wifi adapter _and_ the computer says it can't find a driver.) You'll also - unless "DSL" _is_ different from ADSL - need some "microfilters"; these are little boxes that plug into your telephone sockets and have two sockets on the back, one for any telephone equipment and one for any DSL MoDem. They stop the telephone equipment and the DSL equipment interfering with each others' operation: if you leave any telephone equipment (ordinary telephone, answerphone, dialup MoDem) connected to the line in parallel with the DSL MoDem, it _may_ not work (as well, or at all, or it might not make any difference). If the company providing your DSL service - Centurylink - is also supplying the MoDem, they may well include a microfilter or two in the box. Supplies dial-up service if DSL service down? Centurylink may or may not offer that provision; they should have told you, anyway. I take it you _don't_ get your current dialup service from them. Any other clues or hints? I'd do a Google search but my 20K dial-up connection works very very slowly on web sites. Yes, modern web designers don't cater for it )-:. (Also, if you're only getting 20K rather than something closer to 33K/56K [up/down], I'm guessing your line is ropy and/or a long way from the exchange, so - unless they're replacing parts of it at the same time - don't expect lightning speed even after changeover: you should get a meg or two, though, at least. Have they promised any particular speed?) Ken Do come back and tell us how you get on! -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Enjoy life now - it has an expiration date |
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in
: In message , KenK writes: I signed up for Centurylink DSL yesterday. I'll get it by 9/26. If anyone here uses DSL, especially Centurylink's, how does this work? Paul's comprehensive answers supersede this, but here's my take! (The default here in UK - at least, for service supplied still via an old telephone line, i. e. they don't change anything in your house - is ADSL; when a USian talks about DSL, I'm not sure if they mean ADSL.) DSL replaces ISP? DSL is how they deliver and collect the bytes; ISP is the company you're dealing with. Supplies email service? That's independent of the delivery method: you send email via an SMTP server, and collect it via a POP (sometimes called POP3) or IMAP server. These two servers are computers at your ISP; how you connect to them doesn't necessarily change when you change from dialup to DSL. If you're changing ISP at the same time (have you been told your email address will change, for example?), then the servers you use will change and have to be changed in your email prog. (such as Outlook Express or Thunderbird); it is _possible_ that other things might have to change too (such as if they only offer IMAP and you've been used to using POP), but probably not. (I _said_ the send and receive email servers are at your ISP, because that's how most people do it; _some_ people, especially those who maintain a website/domain, often do things differently - i. e. the ISP provides them with the connection only, and they use mail servers - and other things - at other companies. I doubt this will apply to you.) (Note that you may have to reconfigure newsgroup access too: you seem to be using Xnews as your news software. Once again, news access is a separate matter from the connection method used to access it. However, in UK at least, many ISPs _don't_ provide news access as part of the service, unlike mail access, so you may have to change who you get that from. There are good free news suppliers [which is what I use for many newsgroups] and excellent cheap ones [one is 10 euros a year for example, IIRR].) Supplies software to replace dial-up connection internet module? For XP Home? You will need a - piece of hardware - MoDem to connect to the DSL, much as you do with dialup. For dialup, the MoDem may already be built into your PC (desktop or laptop): it's where the 'phone line plugs in. For DSL, it's likely to be an external box: I'm unaware of any DSL MoDem that's available as a PC card (let alone built into any laptop), though I'm not saying such don't exist. Often, these days - in fact almost always - the box will also contain a wifi router, which means you can connect your computer to the box wirelessly: virtually all laptops these days include wifi, though most desktops don't. (You can get wifi dongles from a couple of bucks upwards, that plug into a spare USB port. IME, unless you're going to be given a huge speed or your computer is a long way from where you're going to put the router, there's no point in paying more than you have to for this bit.) If the MoDem doesn't have wifi (or your computer doesn't and you don't want to add it), you'll have to connect to it by an ethernet cable: it will have a suitable socket, and hopefully so will your computer. (If you're going this route, make sure you have a cable! If unsure whether your computer has wifi, look in Start | Settings | Network connections; you should see your dialup connection, "Local Area Connection" if your computer has an ethernet port, and "Wireless Network Connection" if you have that. Along from Local Area Connection, it will probably say "Network cable unplugged" [it does here as I use wifi].) The _software_ part of the connection is already part of XP, much as it was/is with your dialup connection. You'll just plug in the DSL box, and magically you'll have an internet connection. (Well, if wifi is involved, you'll have to set that up. Try _not_ to load any software that comes with the kit, unless you're adding a wifi adapter _and_ the computer says it can't find a driver.) You'll also - unless "DSL" _is_ different from ADSL - need some "microfilters"; these are little boxes that plug into your telephone sockets and have two sockets on the back, one for any telephone equipment and one for any DSL MoDem. They stop the telephone equipment and the DSL equipment interfering with each others' operation: if you leave any telephone equipment (ordinary telephone, answerphone, dialup MoDem) connected to the line in parallel with the DSL MoDem, it _may_ not work (as well, or at all, or it might not make any difference). If the company providing your DSL service - Centurylink - is also supplying the MoDem, they may well include a microfilter or two in the box. Supplies dial-up service if DSL service down? Centurylink may or may not offer that provision; they should have told you, anyway. I take it you _don't_ get your current dialup service from them. Any other clues or hints? I'd do a Google search but my 20K dial-up connection works very very slowly on web sites. Yes, modern web designers don't cater for it )-:. (Also, if you're only getting 20K rather than something closer to 33K/56K [up/down], I'm guessing your line is ropy and/or a long way from the exchange, so - unless they're replacing parts of it at the same time - don't expect lightning speed even after changeover: you should get a meg or two, though, at least. Have they promised any particular speed?) No such promises. Up until a week ago I was getting 40K+. The ISP (no relation to CenturyLink) says I need my phone line checked. I did that a few months ago, got a new line, and got 40K+ back again until now. I can see having to do this every few months so decided to go from DUN to DSL. I don't understand why; for some 30 years I got 40K+ with no problem and no line changes. Evidently the lines have deteriorated recently. I believe the DSL comes over different lines than my regular phone service. I couldn't get DSL out here at my rural residence until a few months ago. I've seem trucks every day out in the country putting up CenturyLink phone (DSL?) lines for years now, recently close to my home. I won't comment on the rest of your post - I need to reread it a few times later. Ken Do come back and tell us how you get on! -- You know it's time to clean the refrigerator when something closes the door from the inside. |
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No such promises. Up until a week ago I was getting 40K+. The ISP (no relation to CenturyLink) says I need my phone line checked. I did that a few months ago, got a new line, and got 40K+ back again until now. I can see having to do this every few months so decided to go from DUN to DSL. I don't understand why; for some 30 years I got 40K+ with no problem and no line changes. Evidently the lines have deteriorated recently. I believe the DSL comes over different lines than my regular phone service. I couldn't get DSL out here at my rural residence until a few months ago. I've seem trucks every day out in the country putting up CenturyLink phone (DSL?) lines for years now, recently close to my home. I won't comment on the rest of your post - I need to reread it a few times later. Ken You would be surprised what carries your ADSL signal. There are only so many spare pairs in the bundle, for them to "trade". And they never ever want to run new copper. They will do whatever it takes to avoid that. If you're having line troubles due to a poorly maintained physical plant, I would expect similar problems with ADSL. Your ADSL modem will have a "sync" light, which will tell you when things are severely degraded. When I see the punch-down blocks here, with the doors open, the wiring exposed to wind, rain and sun, I think to myself how exceptionally well those "gas tight" connections work. And what a miracle it is, that any POTS phone service is working... Paul |
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Paul wrote:
KenK wrote: No such promises. Up until a week ago I was getting 40K+. The ISP (no relation to CenturyLink) says I need my phone line checked. I did that a few months ago, got a new line, and got 40K+ back again until now. I can see having to do this every few months so decided to go from DUN to DSL. I don't understand why; for some 30 years I got 40K+ with no problem and no line changes. Evidently the lines have deteriorated recently. I believe the DSL comes over different lines than my regular phone service. I couldn't get DSL out here at my rural residence until a few months ago. I've seem trucks every day out in the country putting up CenturyLink phone (DSL?) lines for years now, recently close to my home. I won't comment on the rest of your post - I need to reread it a few times later. Ken You would be surprised what carries your ADSL signal. There are only so many spare pairs in the bundle, for them to "trade". And they never ever want to run new copper. They will do whatever it takes to avoid that. If you're having line troubles due to a poorly maintained physical plant, I would expect similar problems with ADSL. Your ADSL modem will have a "sync" light, which will tell you when things are severely degraded. When I see the punch-down blocks here, with the doors open, the wiring exposed to wind, rain and sun, I think to myself how exceptionally well those "gas tight" connections work. And what a miracle it is, that any POTS phone service is working... Paul This may be related to this: The POTS telephone lines over here in my area were often so bad that on rainy days I just hear loud static on the line (and in another house, the lines would sometimes go completely dead). I've had them switch out the lines to another pair twice (over time), and that was good for awhile, but then it all started acting up again. I finally had to give up the (CenturyLink) landline, as it just wasn't worth all the hassle. What's worse is I don't think they care all that much. You would think they would want to keep their customers, since so many are dropping landlines and going to cell phones. But, I guess not (and their rates sure didn't reflect trying to keep customers, either). |
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