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Old March 6th 15, 09:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Hi All,

I have a customer in his 80's who literally can not learn
anything new. He is running XP on an old, old clunker.
It is so slow it drives him (and me) nuts.

I found a full ATX from Supermicro (C7H61) that has xp
support, but he need it smaller to fit his desk.

Any one have a favorite good quality Mini ATX motherboard
that has good xp driver support?

Many thanks,
-T
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Old March 6th 15, 10:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Rodney Pont[_4_]
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On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 12:19:03 -0800, T wrote:

I have a customer in his 80's who literally can not learn
anything new. He is running XP on an old, old clunker.
It is so slow it drives him (and me) nuts.

I found a full ATX from Supermicro (C7H61) that has xp
support, but he need it smaller to fit his desk.

Any one have a favorite good quality Mini ATX motherboard
that has good xp driver support?


I've just ordered an Asus A78M-E, AMD A4-7300 and 4GB Corsair XMS3
Classic DDR3 1600MHz memory for my neighbor also in his 80's whose
motherboard is sick.

I did find an Asus Intel board that supported Win XP but I can't
remember which one it was. I decided to go AMD in this case since his
old board ran AMD and it should be an easier install.

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Old March 6th 15, 10:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On 03/06/2015 01:13 PM, Rodney Pont wrote:
On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 12:19:03 -0800, T wrote:

I have a customer in his 80's who literally can not learn
anything new. He is running XP on an old, old clunker.
It is so slow it drives him (and me) nuts.

I found a full ATX from Supermicro (C7H61) that has xp
support, but he need it smaller to fit his desk.

Any one have a favorite good quality Mini ATX motherboard
that has good xp driver support?


I've just ordered an Asus A78M-E, AMD A4-7300 and 4GB Corsair XMS3
Classic DDR3 1600MHz memory for my neighbor also in his 80's whose
motherboard is sick.

I did find an Asus Intel board that supported Win XP but I can't
remember which one it was. I decided to go AMD in this case since his
old board ran AMD and it should be an easier install.


Thank you!
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Old March 6th 15, 11:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Rodney Pont[_4_]
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On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 21:13:19 +0000 (GMT), Rodney Pont wrote:

I did find an Asus Intel board that supported Win XP but I can't
remember which one it was. I decided to go AMD in this case since his
old board ran AMD and it should be an easier install.


It was an Asus H61M-K and I was going to use a Celeron G1620 and 4GB
Corsair XMS3
Classic DDR3 1600MHz memory. That was before I found the AMD setup.

--
Faster, cheaper, quieter than HS2
and built in 5 years;
UKUltraspeed http://www.500kmh.com/


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Old March 7th 15, 12:07 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mayayana
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I usually go to TigerDirect. They're good with
information about the products. It can be very
confusing sometimes, though. A few years back
I needed drivers for a Via chipset. I think the board
may have been MSI. The board maker claimed
they had very limited support, but at the Via
website they had one download that supported
all Windows versions.

I've been using Asus for my last few boxes. I
don't really have a reason for that. It's just that
I used one once and it was good, so I stuck with
them.



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Old March 7th 15, 12:20 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On 03/06/2015 02:14 PM, Rodney Pont wrote:
On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 21:13:19 +0000 (GMT), Rodney Pont wrote:

I did find an Asus Intel board that supported Win XP but I can't
remember which one it was. I decided to go AMD in this case since his
old board ran AMD and it should be an easier install.


It was an Asus H61M-K and I was going to use a Celeron G1620 and 4GB
Corsair XMS3
Classic DDR3 1600MHz memory. That was before I found the AMD setup.


Thank you!
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Old March 7th 15, 12:20 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On 03/06/2015 03:07 PM, Mayayana wrote:
I usually go to TigerDirect. They're good with
information about the products. It can be very
confusing sometimes, though. A few years back
I needed drivers for a Via chipset. I think the board
may have been MSI. The board maker claimed
they had very limited support, but at the Via
website they had one download that supported
all Windows versions.

I've been using Asus for my last few boxes. I
don't really have a reason for that. It's just that
I used one once and it was good, so I stuck with
them.





Thank you!
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Old March 7th 15, 01:26 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On 03/06/2015 03:20 PM, T wrote:
On 03/06/2015 02:14 PM, Rodney Pont wrote:
On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 21:13:19 +0000 (GMT), Rodney Pont wrote:

I did find an Asus Intel board that supported Win XP but I can't
remember which one it was. I decided to go AMD in this case since his
old board ran AMD and it should be an easier install.


It was an Asus H61M-K and I was going to use a Celeron G1620 and 4GB
Corsair XMS3
Classic DDR3 1600MHz memory. That was before I found the AMD setup.


Thank you!


Oh and look. Drivers for XP!
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Old March 8th 15, 10:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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The best!
I dual boot Win XP and Win 7

MSI Mil Grade A75MA-G55

AMD CPU

In a Sentey Slim Series case.

Only warning is that it is a slim case and only takes low profile
boards.
Not a problem to find jut make sure they are low profile plug in
boards.

It travels with me as my desktop PC.

Got mine a Microcenter.com

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Old March 8th 15, 11:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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OldGuy wrote:
The best!
I dual boot Win XP and Win 7

MSI Mil Grade A75MA-G55

AMD CPU

In a Sentey Slim Series case.

Only warning is that it is a slim case and only takes low profile boards.
Not a problem to find jut make sure they are low profile plug in boards.

It travels with me as my desktop PC.

Got mine a Microcenter.com


The thing is, we don't really have a good picture
of the customer.

1) Are we reusing the video card ?
Older video cards are more likely to have WinXP drivers.
Finding a motherboard for them, not so easy...

2) Does the customer need an optical drive ? Listen
to a CD collection while sitting at the computer ?
Is the customer "dexterous" or arthritic. I wouldn't
build a slim CD/DVD drive for someone who can't load
a disc onto a "hub" design. I'd be giving them
a full sized drive with a tray. A slot load (toaster)
might scratch their media.

The optical drive makes a big difference to the build.

1) Desktop optical drive (tray). MicroATX motherboard
and regular case. Or a Shuttle case and decent supply.
2) Slim optical drive (same kind as used in a laptop).
Now you can move to mini-ITX and make a nice build.
Zotac makes a few motherboards that will take a
Core i7, if you're tired of weak processors.
3) The dude is "modern and hip". Doesn't need an optical
drive any more. Buys all the software off the Internet.
Never listens to music. Has a music collection on a NAS.
For that individual, there is Intel NUC, Via Nano or Pico,
and so on. You can make really tiny computers, if all
you drive for I/O is keyboard/mouse/monitor.

In a listing, I could see some older Intel NUC boxes
that support WinXP. So there are still some possibilities
there.

The perfect motherboards, were some made by Asrock,
with VIA chipset. They had both a PCI Express and
an AGP video slot. Which is good for those people
who want a cheap upgrade, and want to drag forward
their old video card and so on. But those days are
gone now, and VIA no longer makes those chips.
VIA was forced out, via the licensing agreement
they had. And the main chipset suppliers aren't
all that interested in "retro" builds. As soon
as Microsoft buried WinXP, you can bet Intel
and AMD won't be far behind.

One component that tends to have good support,
is NIC chips. Too bad the rest of the industry wasn't
as willing to oblige.

Paul
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Old March 9th 15, 03:16 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On 03/08/2015 03:52 PM, Paul wrote:
OldGuy wrote:
The best!
I dual boot Win XP and Win 7

MSI Mil Grade A75MA-G55

AMD CPU

In a Sentey Slim Series case.

Only warning is that it is a slim case and only takes low profile boards.
Not a problem to find jut make sure they are low profile plug in boards.

It travels with me as my desktop PC.

Got mine a Microcenter.com


The thing is, we don't really have a good picture
of the customer.


He is a sweet 80+ year old duffer.


1) Are we reusing the video card ?
Older video cards are more likely to have WinXP drivers.
Finding a motherboard for them, not so easy...


Total new build. The only reuse would be his monitor.
And, the data on his hard drive that I will clone over
to his new computer. (That takes some doing, but I have
good notes.)

2) Does the customer need an optical drive ? Listen
to a CD collection while sitting at the computer ?
Is the customer "dexterous" or arthritic. I wouldn't
build a slim CD/DVD drive for someone who can't load
a disc onto a "hub" design. I'd be giving them
a full sized drive with a tray. A slot load (toaster)
might scratch their media.


Yes. A DVD drive.

The optical drive makes a big difference to the build.

1) Desktop optical drive (tray). MicroATX motherboard
and regular case. Or a Shuttle case and decent supply.
2) Slim optical drive (same kind as used in a laptop).
Now you can move to mini-ITX and make a nice build.
Zotac makes a few motherboards that will take a
Core i7, if you're tired of weak processors.
3) The dude is "modern and hip". Doesn't need an optical
drive any more. Buys all the software off the Internet.
Never listens to music. Has a music collection on a NAS.
For that individual, there is Intel NUC, Via Nano or Pico,
and so on. You can make really tiny computers, if all
you drive for I/O is keyboard/mouse/monitor.

In a listing, I could see some older Intel NUC boxes
that support WinXP. So there are still some possibilities
there.

The perfect motherboards, were some made by Asrock,
with VIA chipset.


VIA is a bunch of chuckleheads. I prefer Intel's chipsets.

They had both a PCI Express and
an AGP video slot. Which is good for those people
who want a cheap upgrade, and want to drag forward
their old video card and so on. But those days are
gone now, and VIA no longer makes those chips.
VIA was forced out, via the licensing agreement
they had. And the main chipset suppliers aren't
all that interested in "retro" builds. As soon
as Microsoft buried WinXP, you can bet Intel
and AMD won't be far behind.

One component that tends to have good support,
is NIC chips. Too bad the rest of the industry wasn't
as willing to oblige.

Paul


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Old March 9th 15, 09:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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In message , T writes:
On 03/08/2015 03:52 PM, Paul wrote:

[]
The thing is, we don't really have a good picture
of the customer.


He is a sweet 80+ year old duffer.


1) Are we reusing the video card ?
Older video cards are more likely to have WinXP drivers.
Finding a motherboard for them, not so easy...


Total new build. The only reuse would be his monitor.
And, the data on his hard drive that I will clone over
to his new computer. (That takes some doing, but I have
good notes.)


I gotta ask: _why_ are you building him a completely new computer? You
said his old one was painfully slow, but there must still be a lot of
second-hand machines about with XP that would run plenty fast enough. Or
are you just keen to do it as a challenge?

2) Does the customer need an optical drive ? Listen
to a CD collection while sitting at the computer ?
Is the customer "dexterous" or arthritic. I wouldn't
build a slim CD/DVD drive for someone who can't load
a disc onto a "hub" design. I'd be giving them
a full sized drive with a tray. A slot load (toaster)
might scratch their media.


Yes. A DVD drive.


Paul's question about whether he has the dexterity to use a hub type is
a good one.
[]
There may even be a laptop that is suitable; I haven't looked, as I
feared good XP machines may carry a premium, but that may not be so.
Perhaps a big laptop like a 17" - or even an all-in-one - might be a
good choice for this customer. For a "sweet 80+ year old duffer" (I
support at least one such character, though don't think he's 80+ - but
similar in difficulty in grasping new concepts [I don't think he's quite
got the concept of folders yet, despite months]), I can't imagine he's
going to move it around much (especially since you were considering a
desktop machine anyway), so the neatness of an all-in-one might appeal
to him (though I don't think too many of those came out under XP). I
know a laptop or AI1 may not appeal to some of us here ...
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Old March 13th 15, 02:45 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On 03/09/2015 01:53 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
I gotta ask: _why_ are you building him a completely new computer? You
said his old one was painfully slow, but there must still be a lot of
second-hand machines about with XP that would run plenty fast enough. Or
are you just keen to do it as a challenge?


Restarts the useful life span.

And much faster.
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Old March 13th 15, 02:50 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On 03/06/2015 12:19 PM, T wrote:
Hi All,

I have a customer in his 80's who literally can not learn
anything new. He is running XP on an old, old clunker.
It is so slow it drives him (and me) nuts.

I found a full ATX from Supermicro (C7H61) that has xp
support, but he need it smaller to fit his desk.

Any one have a favorite good quality Mini ATX motherboard
that has good xp driver support?

Many thanks,
-T


Hi All,

Feedback:

Managed to find two Micro ATX motherboards with XP support
that are actually still in stock at my distributor:

Gigabyte: GA-B75M-D3H (has solid Japanese capacitors)

ASUS: P8H61-M

Thank you all for the tips, especially the ASUS tip.

-T


 




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