Incompatible programs

Might it be a good idea to post details of programs proving incompatible
with Windows 10 on the grounds that it may help others to avoid problems?

I installed the latest version (2015.10.0.2206) of Avast! antivirus in
build 9860 yesterday - running in a VM. I ran quick scan, which worked
OK. Then got an odd pop up telling me that rundll32.exe had problems, so
I went to their forum to check the false positive where it was the
general opinion that it was not installable. I opened my big mouth and
said I had just installed it OK and it was running. Shortly thereafter I
was proved totally wrong when all Hell broke loose. Explorer.exe seemed
to have disappeared, error messages popped up all over, and I could not
longer close down Windows 10, nor could I close the VM and get back into
my normal system. I had to force a shutdown with the power switch
(fortunately doing no harm to my Windows 7 system) rerun Windows 10,
download the Avast! removal tool before things seized up, reboot into
safe mode and run it, and finally do a complete system refresh to get
Windows 10 to run again - so much damage had been done, that it was the
only way to fix it.

If you're still with me after all that rambling - the message is don't
try to install Avast!


--
Bob Tetbury, Gloucestershire, UK

Bigamy is having one wife too many. Monogamy is the same.

On 11/08/2014 05:09 AM, Bob Henson wrote:
Might it be a good idea to post details of programs proving incompatible
with Windows 10 on the grounds that it may help others to avoid problems?

I installed the latest version (2015.10.0.2206) of Avast! antivirus in
build 9860 yesterday - running in a VM. I ran quick scan, which worked
OK. Then got an odd pop up telling me that rundll32.exe had problems, so
I went to their forum to check the false positive where it was the


snip

The nice thing about using a Virtual Machine is that you can simply make
a copy of the image and experiment all you want. If you break something
you can get back to your original installation in just a minute.

On 08/11/2014 1:25 PM, philo wrote:
On 11/08/2014 05:09 AM, Bob Henson wrote:
Might it be a good idea to post details of programs proving incompatible
with Windows 10 on the grounds that it may help others to avoid problems?

I installed the latest version (2015.10.0.2206) of Avast! antivirus in
build 9860 yesterday - running in a VM. I ran quick scan, which worked
OK. Then got an odd pop up telling me that rundll32.exe had problems, so
I went to their forum to check the false positive where it was the


snip

The nice thing about using a Virtual Machine is that you can simply make
a copy of the image and experiment all you want. If you break something
you can get back to your original installation in just a minute.



I hadn't done that - I didn't think I was doing anything that drastic. I
won't get caught again :-(

--
Bob Tetbury, Gloucestershire, UK

Two silk worms had a race. They ended up in a tie.

On 08/11/2014 1:25 PM, philo wrote:
On 11/08/2014 05:09 AM, Bob Henson wrote:
Might it be a good idea to post details of programs proving incompatible
with Windows 10 on the grounds that it may help others to avoid problems?

I installed the latest version (2015.10.0.2206) of Avast! antivirus in
build 9860 yesterday - running in a VM. I ran quick scan, which worked
OK. Then got an odd pop up telling me that rundll32.exe had problems, so
I went to their forum to check the false positive where it was the


snip

The nice thing about using a Virtual Machine is that you can simply make
a copy of the image and experiment all you want. If you break something
you can get back to your original installation in just a minute.



Hmm, it would appear I can't do that with the VM player - I have to fork
out £160 quid for the paid version.

--
Bob Tetbury, Gloucestershire, UK

Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

On 08/11/2014 in message Bob Henson
wrote:

Hmm, it would appear I can't do that with the VM player - I have to fork
out £160 quid for the paid version.

Bob

How about VirtualBox:
https://www.virtualbox.org/

It's a Yorkshireman's favourite price :-)

--
Jeff Gaines Wiltshire UK
There are 10 types of people in the world, those who do binary and those
who don't.

On 08/11/2014 2:29 PM, Jeff Gaines wrote:
On 08/11/2014 in message Bob Henson
wrote:

Hmm, it would appear I can't do that with the VM player - I have to fork
out £160 quid for the paid version.

Bob

How about VirtualBox:
https://www.virtualbox.org/

It's a Yorkshireman's favourite price :-)


I used to use that, Jeff, but I had some problems with a new version
which persistently failed/locked up on here, so I switched to VMware,
which is much better and easier to use. However, the free version is a
cut down version, and doesn't have many of the more complex functions. I
only run test systems on it, so it's no big deal if everything goes
thingies up like Windows 10 did, but a quicker restart would have been
nice in this case.

--
Bob Tetbury, Gloucestershire, UK

Yes, a second honeymoon would be a good idea, dear. With whom?

On 11/08/2014 08:39 AM, Bob Henson wrote:
On 08/11/2014 2:29 PM, Jeff Gaines wrote:
On 08/11/2014 in message Bob Henson
wrote:

Hmm, it would appear I can't do that with the VM player - I have to fork
out £160 quid for the paid version.


Why not just manually make a copy of it ?


How can it not be possible?

On 08/11/2014 14:29, Jeff Gaines wrote:
On 08/11/2014 in message Bob Henson
wrote:

Hmm, it would appear I can't do that with the VM player - I have to fork
out £160 quid for the paid version.

Bob

How about VirtualBox:
https://www.virtualbox.org/

It's a Yorkshireman's favourite price :-)


Yes I have Windows 10 TP running quite nicely in a VirtualBox 4.3.18 VM.
The guest additions install and work too.
The only odd thing is that I can't get the video display in the Virtual
machine to be any size other than the standard 4:3 sizes 800*600,
1024*768, 1152*864 etc.

--

Brian Gregory (in the UK).
To email me please remove all the letter vee from my email address.

Brian Gregory wrote:
On 08/11/2014 14:29, Jeff Gaines wrote:
On 08/11/2014 in message Bob Henson
wrote:

Hmm, it would appear I can't do that with the VM player - I have to fork
out £160 quid for the paid version.

Bob

How about VirtualBox:
https://www.virtualbox.org/

It's a Yorkshireman's favourite price :-)


Yes I have Windows 10 TP running quite nicely in a VirtualBox 4.3.18 VM.
The guest additions install and work too.
The only odd thing is that I can't get the video display in the Virtual
machine to be any size other than the standard 4:3 sizes 800*600,
1024*768, 1152*864 etc.


In the Guest Device Manager, check to see if the Virtualbox driver is
present for the video.

In the Guest machine settings, make sure the frame buffer memory
allocation is big enough. There are also options there to enable
experimental Direct3D support and the like.

The Win10 VESA fallback driver, would do 1024*768 here, so I
recognize the symptoms. Win8 did the same thing. Previous OSes
like WinXP, the fallback driver might do 800x600 or 640x480.
Which is why I'd be checking Device Manager in your Guest, to
see what driver is being used for video.

The fallback driver gets used for my FX5200 card,
since there is no driver from the manufacturer for it.
In the Win10 Preview, a trip to Windows Update revealed
an ATI/AMD driver for my HD6450, which fixed the resolution
issue in a real, physical Win10 Preview installation. So you
should be able to whip that install into shape, one way or another.
There is bound to be a solution.

Paul