New Box no sleep

New computer not sleeping?, running win 10 64 pro. When I set it to
sleep, The monitor shuts off, the keyboard and mouse do the same.
Computer itself (desktop) stays on and fans are turning. Router also
shows that the pc is sleeping After waiting a few minutes for the pc to
go dark and the fans to stop (it does not) I have tried to move or click
the mouse and or keyboard and nothing happens without a hard restart.
Cannot seem to figure out why. I have tried for hrs digging through
different settings and to no avail. I have tried power cfg -h on and -h
off and still. Tried power options, usb settings and cannot seem to find
what is needed. Any help would be appreciated greatly.

Specs are
Asus Rog Strix 270g motherboard
Intel core i7 7700k
32gigs ram
Nvidia turbo 1070 graphics card

Update. symptoms are finally gone. After help here as usual I
reinstalled windows to repair numerous errors. I then stumbled across a
incorrect bios setting and now have a smooth and fast rig. Sleep,
restart and shutdown work as they should. Leds and fans shutdown as they
should. My thanks to Paul, VanguardLH as well as Char. You 3 were
extremely helpful in giving direction as well as teaching me some tricks
for the future.

On 23/08/2017 12:25, Drew wrote:
[....]
Update. symptoms are finally gone. After help here as usual I
reinstalled windows to repair numerous errors. I then stumbled across a
incorrect bios setting and now have a smooth and fast rig. Sleep,
restart and shutdown work as they should. Leds and fans shutdown as they
should. My thanks to Paul, VanguardLH as well as Char. You 3 were
extremely helpful in giving direction as well as teaching me some tricks
for the future.

Thanks for the update, Drew.

What help, if any, was the support team from the original builder of the
machine?

--
David B.

Drew wrote:
New computer not sleeping?, running win 10 64 pro. When I set it to
sleep, The monitor shuts off, the keyboard and mouse do the same.
Computer itself (desktop) stays on and fans are turning. Router also
shows that the pc is sleeping After waiting a few minutes for the pc to
go dark and the fans to stop (it does not) I have tried to move or click
the mouse and or keyboard and nothing happens without a hard restart.
Cannot seem to figure out why. I have tried for hrs digging through
different settings and to no avail. I have tried power cfg -h on and -h
off and still. Tried power options, usb settings and cannot seem to find
what is needed. Any help would be appreciated greatly.

Specs are
Asus Rog Strix 270g motherboard
Intel core i7 7700k
32gigs ram
Nvidia turbo 1070 graphics card

Update. symptoms are finally gone. After help here as usual I
reinstalled windows to repair numerous errors. I then stumbled across a
incorrect bios setting and now have a smooth and fast rig. Sleep,
restart and shutdown work as they should. Leds and fans shutdown as they
should. My thanks to Paul, VanguardLH as well as Char. You 3 were
extremely helpful in giving direction as well as teaching me some tricks
for the future.

What BIOS setting was it that helped the most ?

I'm curious if one of the old (ACPI) settings is still
hidden in UEFI somewhere.

Paul

On 8/23/2017 6:07 AM, David B. wrote:
On 23/08/2017 12:25, Drew wrote:
[....]
Update. symptoms are finally gone. After help here as usual I
reinstalled windows to repair numerous errors. I then stumbled across
a incorrect bios setting and now have a smooth and fast rig. Sleep,
restart and shutdown work as they should. Leds and fans shutdown as
they should. My thanks to Paul, VanguardLH as well as Char. You 3 were
extremely helpful in giving direction as well as teaching me some
tricks for the future.

Thanks for the update, Drew.

What help, if any, was the support team from the original builder of the
machine?

Helped find the errors that I was not and got me to reinstall windows.

On 8/23/2017 9:30 AM, Paul wrote:
Drew wrote:
New computer not sleeping?, running win 10 64 pro. When I set it to
sleep, The monitor shuts off, the keyboard and mouse do the same.
Computer itself (desktop) stays on and fans are turning. Router also
shows that the pc is sleepingÂ* After waiting a few minutes for the pc
to go dark and the fans to stop (it does not) I have tried to move or
click the mouse and or keyboard and nothing happens without a hard
restart. Cannot seem to figure out why. I have tried for hrs digging
through different settings and to no avail. I have tried power cfg -h
on and -h off and still. Tried power options, usb settings and cannot
seem to find what is needed. Any help would be appreciated greatly.

Specs are
Asus Rog Strix 270g motherboard
Intel core i7 7700k
32gigs ram
Nvidia turbo 1070 graphics card

Update. symptoms are finally gone. After help here as usual I
reinstalled windows to repair numerous errors. I then stumbled across
a incorrect bios setting and now have a smooth and fast rig. Sleep,
restart and shutdown work as they should. Leds and fans shutdown as
they should. My thanks to Paul, VanguardLH as well as Char. You 3 were
extremely helpful in giving direction as well as teaching me some
tricks for the future.

What BIOS setting was it that helped the most ?

I'm curious if one of the old (ACPI) settings is still
hidden in UEFI somewhere.

Â*Â* Paul
Fans set for pwn instead of dc. as soon as that was changed unit
operated correctly. well that and reinstall of windows. many many errors
in cbs logs, as well as Dism.exe logs. Reinstall cured those and the
bios problem cured the fans thus allowing normal shutdown sleep etc.

Drew wrote:
On 8/23/2017 9:30 AM, Paul wrote:
Drew wrote:
New computer not sleeping?, running win 10 64 pro. When I set it to
sleep, The monitor shuts off, the keyboard and mouse do the same.
Computer itself (desktop) stays on and fans are turning. Router also
shows that the pc is sleeping After waiting a few minutes for the pc
to go dark and the fans to stop (it does not) I have tried to move or
click the mouse and or keyboard and nothing happens without a hard
restart. Cannot seem to figure out why. I have tried for hrs digging
through different settings and to no avail. I have tried power cfg -h
on and -h off and still. Tried power options, usb settings and cannot
seem to find what is needed. Any help would be appreciated greatly.

Specs are
Asus Rog Strix 270g motherboard
Intel core i7 7700k
32gigs ram
Nvidia turbo 1070 graphics card

Update. symptoms are finally gone. After help here as usual I
reinstalled windows to repair numerous errors. I then stumbled across
a incorrect bios setting and now have a smooth and fast rig. Sleep,
restart and shutdown work as they should. Leds and fans shutdown as
they should. My thanks to Paul, VanguardLH as well as Char. You 3
were extremely helpful in giving direction as well as teaching me
some tricks for the future.

What BIOS setting was it that helped the most ?

I'm curious if one of the old (ACPI) settings is still
hidden in UEFI somewhere.

Paul
Fans set for pwn instead of dc. as soon as that was changed unit
operated correctly. well that and reinstall of windows. many many errors
in cbs logs, as well as Dism.exe logs. Reinstall cured those and the
bios problem cured the fans thus allowing normal shutdown sleep etc.


The BIOS passes some information to the OS in the form of
ACPI Tables and ACPI Objects.

An ACPI Object allows access to things that would normally
be more difficult, with OS design being what it is. For example,
when Asus wanted its software to have access to some hardware
monitor stuff, it added ATK0110 to the BIOS tables. The software
application could then access that as an ACPI object, and get the
BIOS to do stuff as a proxy, versus needing to install a driver
like GiveIO, to punch a hole through to hardware registers and
so on. GiveIO would be a Ring0 solution, so a Ring3 program
could talk to hardware. You would need a signed driver, to
do that on Win10 (I don't know if the x86 version still
supports unsigned drivers or not).

It could be, that your system passes an ACPI object for the fans.

I could find one Linux-related article, where someone noted
a "fan" directory appeared in the ACPI file space. And that
implies they do such things.

In any case, it's not the mechanism that counts. Something
was wrong with that object, and you would think your
powercfg invocations would have received messages about the
defect in that thing ("fans don't wanna change ACPI state X").

That's all I can think of.

I don't use fan control here, and everything runs 100%. The CPU fans
I've got, are already "low-RPM" designs, and running them 100% really
isn't that fast. For some other, old-fashioned fans, I use
things like Zalman Fanmate or a voltage reducer solution,
to run a fan at a fixed speed (but just a bit slower, like 7V instead
of 12V). You're not supposed to do that on four wire fans,
and these are case fans with only two wires (they don't even
have RPM).

If this was my laptop, there would be a lot fewer solutions
(as 100% fan on that would be... quite annoying).

Paul

On 8/23/2017 8:08 PM, Paul wrote:
Drew wrote:
On 8/23/2017 9:30 AM, Paul wrote:
Drew wrote:
New computer not sleeping?, running win 10 64 pro. When I set it to
sleep, The monitor shuts off, the keyboard and mouse do the same.
Computer itself (desktop) stays on and fans are turning. Router also
shows that the pc is sleepingÂ* After waiting a few minutes for the
pc to go dark and the fans to stop (it does not) I have tried to
move or click the mouse and or keyboard and nothing happens without
a hard restart. Cannot seem to figure out why. I have tried for hrs
digging through different settings and to no avail. I have tried
power cfg -h on and -h off and still. Tried power options, usb
settings and cannot seem to find what is needed. Any help would be
appreciated greatly.

Specs are
Asus Rog Strix 270g motherboard
Intel core i7 7700k
32gigs ram
Nvidia turbo 1070 graphics card

Update. symptoms are finally gone. After help here as usual I
reinstalled windows to repair numerous errors. I then stumbled
across a incorrect bios setting and now have a smooth and fast rig.
Sleep, restart and shutdown work as they should. Leds and fans
shutdown as they should. My thanks to Paul, VanguardLH as well as
Char. You 3 were extremely helpful in giving direction as well as
teaching me some tricks for the future.

What BIOS setting was it that helped the most ?

I'm curious if one of the old (ACPI) settings is still
hidden in UEFI somewhere.

Â*Â*Â* Paul
Fans set for pwn instead of dc. as soon as that was changed unit
operated correctly. well that and reinstall of windows. many many
errors in cbs logs, as well as Dism.exe logs. Reinstall cured those
and the bios problem cured the fans thus allowing normal shutdown
sleep etc.


The BIOS passes some information to the OS in the form of
ACPI Tables and ACPI Objects.

An ACPI Object allows access to things that would normally
be more difficult, with OS design being what it is. For example,
when Asus wanted its software to have access to some hardware
monitor stuff, it added ATK0110 to the BIOS tables. The software
application could then access that as an ACPI object, and get the
BIOS to do stuff as a proxy, versus needing to install a driver
like GiveIO, to punch a hole through to hardware registers and
so on. GiveIO would be a Ring0 solution, so a Ring3 program
could talk to hardware. You would need a signed driver, to
do that on Win10 (I don't know if the x86 version still
supports unsigned drivers or not).

It could be, that your system passes an ACPI object for the fans.

I could find one Linux-related article, where someone noted
a "fan" directory appeared in the ACPI file space. And that
implies they do such things.

In any case, it's not the mechanism that counts. Something
was wrong with that object, and you would think your
powercfg invocations would have received messages about the
defect in that thing ("fans don't wanna change ACPI state X").

That's all I can think of.

I don't use fan control here, and everything runs 100%. The CPU fans
I've got, are already "low-RPM" designs, and running them 100% really
isn't that fast. For some other, old-fashioned fans, I use
things like Zalman Fanmate or a voltage reducer solution,
to run a fan at a fixed speed (but just a bit slower, like 7V instead
of 12V). You're not supposed to do that on four wire fans,
and these are case fans with only two wires (they don't even
have RPM).

If this was my laptop, there would be a lot fewer solutions
(as 100% fan on that would be... quite annoying).

Â*Â* Paul
On this build there are 6 120mm thermaltake green riing (yes 2 i's)fans.
they are 3 wire fans and let me tell you when these are all running 100%
it is like a hurricane,lol! I might still back some of them down a bit.
2 of them are on the cpu radiator at the top so I do not want to mess
with those much. The 3 in front and the one on the rear though could be
throttled a little more though. Need to research a little to see how low
I can go before they cut off.