Which IE to get?

IE suggestions wanted:

Google recently made Maps incompatible with IE8 and I have to get
the IE8 W7/32 machine to view google maps again.

I'm mainly concerned with functionality and am leaning towards IE9.
I don't care about viruses, security, or the latest-greatest thing.

Any good functional or compatibility reason to get or not to get
IE9, IE10, IE11, etc.? I have heard that IE10 was not very good.
It MUST be IE and not a third party browser.

"Paul in Houston TX" wrote in message
...
IE suggestions wanted:

Google recently made Maps incompatible with IE8 and I have to get
the IE8 W7/32 machine to view google maps again.

I'm mainly concerned with functionality and am leaning towards IE9.
I don't care about viruses, security, or the latest-greatest thing.

Any good functional or compatibility reason to get or not to get
IE9, IE10, IE11, etc.? I have heard that IE10 was not very good.
It MUST be IE and not a third party browser.





I have had no issues with IE10 or IE11.
--

~Bruce

On 10/12/2014 04:02, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
IE suggestions wanted:

Google recently made Maps incompatible with IE8 and I have to get
the IE8 W7/32 machine to view google maps again.

I'm mainly concerned with functionality and am leaning towards IE9.
I don't care about viruses, security, or the latest-greatest thing.

Any good functional or compatibility reason to get or not to get
IE9, IE10, IE11, etc.? I have heard that IE10 was not very good.
It MUST be IE and not a third party browser.

If you are using Windows 7 then IE10 would be fine for it. The
advantage of using latest IE browsers is that they are backwards
compatible - this means you can view the pages in compatibility view so
that they imitate IE8. Not many people here would know this but now
they will all join in like a pack of vultures to tell you how wonderful
Windows XP is and all that non sense.

You have done the right thing to start using Windows 7 and now get hang
of it so that you can move to windows 8.1 sooner. With Windows 8.1 you
can start using IE11.

Good luck.

On 12/10/2014 1:40 PM, Good Guy wrote:
On 10/12/2014 04:02, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
IE suggestions wanted:

Google recently made Maps incompatible with IE8 and I have to get
the IE8 W7/32 machine to view google maps again.

I'm mainly concerned with functionality and am leaning towards IE9.
I don't care about viruses, security, or the latest-greatest thing.

Any good functional or compatibility reason to get or not to get
IE9, IE10, IE11, etc.? I have heard that IE10 was not very good.
It MUST be IE and not a third party browser.

If you are using Windows 7 then IE10 would be fine for it. The
advantage of using latest IE browsers is that they are backwards
compatible - this means you can view the pages in compatibility view so
that they imitate IE8. Not many people here would know this but now
they will all join in like a pack of vultures to tell you how wonderful
Windows XP is and all that non sense.

You have done the right thing to start using Windows 7 and now get hang
of it so that you can move to windows 8.1 sooner. With Windows 8.1 you
can start using IE11.

IE11 has been available for Win7 for a year or more.

On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 22:02:45 -0600, Paul in Houston TX
wrote:

IE suggestions wanted:

Google recently made Maps incompatible with IE8 and I have to get
the IE8 W7/32 machine to view google maps again.

I'm mainly concerned with functionality and am leaning towards IE9.
I don't care about viruses, security, or the latest-greatest thing.

Any good functional or compatibility reason to get or not to get
IE9, IE10, IE11, etc.? I have heard that IE10 was not very good.

They're all about the same. Use any of them and good luck trying to tell
them apart. They are much more similar to each other than different, and
none are as good at presenting an enjoyable browsing experience as what you
can get from a non-IE browser that's configured appropriately.

It MUST be IE and not a third party browser.

That's an odd requirement. Glutton for punishment?

--

Char Jackson

Good Guy wrote in
:

On 10/12/2014 04:02, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
IE suggestions wanted:

Google recently made Maps incompatible with IE8 and I have to get
the IE8 W7/32 machine to view google maps again.

I'm mainly concerned with functionality and am leaning towards IE9.
I don't care about viruses, security, or the latest-greatest thing.

Any good functional or compatibility reason to get or not to get
IE9, IE10, IE11, etc.? I have heard that IE10 was not very good.
It MUST be IE and not a third party browser.

If you are using Windows 7 then IE10 would be fine for it. The
advantage of using latest IE browsers is that they are backwards
compatible - this means you can view the pages in compatibility view
so that they imitate IE8. Not many people here would know this but
now they will all join in like a pack of vultures to tell you how
wonderful Windows XP is and all that non sense.

You have done the right thing to start using Windows 7 and now get
hang of it so that you can move to windows 8.1 sooner. With Windows
8.1 you can start using IE11.

Good luck.



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Hmmm...I've got machines with XP, Vista, Win7, and Win 8. Even though
going from XP to Win7 was confusing (folder structure), I like it the
best. I hate Win8x with all the clicks I have to do to get to things
like the Control Panel and Network Settings. I avoid my Win8.1 laptop.
I'm not sure why you say that moving to Win7 will make the move to Win8.1
easier. Can you enlighten me?

TIA

On 10/12/2014 05:02, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
IE suggestions wanted:

Google recently made Maps incompatible with IE8 and I have to get
the IE8 W7/32 machine to view google maps again.

I'm mainly concerned with functionality and am leaning towards IE9.
I don't care about viruses, security, or the latest-greatest thing.

Any good functional or compatibility reason to get or not to get
IE9, IE10, IE11, etc.? I have heard that IE10 was not very good.
It MUST be IE and not a third party browser.

Firstly: There are no 3rd party browsers.
Secondly: IE8 is a deprecated browser. If you want to stick to IE, use
the most recent version, which is 11.
But this is certainly not the best browser. Firefox (good configurable
and with good utilities) or Google Chrome (fast) are much better.
I cannot imagine that Google Maps would be incompatible with those browsers.

Fokke

Fokke Nauta wrote on 12/10/2014 3:03 PM:
Firstly: There are no 3rd party browsers.

Uhhh, I'd beg to differ. Firefox and Chrome could be called 3rd party.

Course I don't understand that term since the primary OS is first party, so who's second party?

Boris wrote:


Hmmm...I've got machines with XP, Vista, Win7, and Win 8. Even though
going from XP to Win7 was confusing (folder structure), I like it the
best. I hate Win8x with all the clicks I have to do to get to things
like the Control Panel and Network Settings. I avoid my Win8.1 laptop.
I'm not sure why you say that moving to Win7 will make the move to Win8.1
easier. Can you enlighten me?

TIA

You could try pinning the Control Panel to the task bar. I think
I have that set up on a couple of OSes here.

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...ndows-8-a.html

Paul

Boris wrote on 12/10/2014 1:09 PM:
Good Guy wrote in
:

On 10/12/2014 04:02, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
IE suggestions wanted:

Google recently made Maps incompatible with IE8 and I have to get
the IE8 W7/32 machine to view google maps again.

I'm mainly concerned with functionality and am leaning towards IE9.
I don't care about viruses, security, or the latest-greatest thing.

Any good functional or compatibility reason to get or not to get
IE9, IE10, IE11, etc.? I have heard that IE10 was not very good.
It MUST be IE and not a third party browser.

If you are using Windows 7 then IE10 would be fine for it. The
advantage of using latest IE browsers is that they are backwards
compatible - this means you can view the pages in compatibility view
so that they imitate IE8. Not many people here would know this but
now they will all join in like a pack of vultures to tell you how
wonderful Windows XP is and all that non sense.

You have done the right thing to start using Windows 7 and now get
hang of it so that you can move to windows 8.1 sooner. With Windows
8.1 you can start using IE11.

Good luck.



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suggestions wanted:
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Google recently made Maps incompatible with IE8 and I have to
get br
the IE8 W7/32 machine to view google maps again.
br
br
I'm mainly concerned with functionality and am leaning towards
IE9.
br
I don't care about viruses, security, or the latest-greatest
thing.
br
br
Any good functional or compatibility reason to get or not to get
br
IE9, IE10, IE11, etc.?  I have heard that IE10 was not very
good. br
It MUST be IE and not a third party browser.
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/blockquote
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font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"If you are using Windows
7
then IE10 would be fine for it. The advantage of using latest
IE browsers is that they are backwards compatible - this means
you can view the pages in compatibility view so that they
imitate IE8. Not many people here would know this but now they
will all join in like a pack of vultures to tell you how
wonderful Windows XP is and all that non sense.br
br
You have done the right thing to start using Windows 7 and now
get hang of it so that you can move to windows 8.1 sooner.Â
With Windows 8.1 you can start using IE11.br
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Good luck.br
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Hmmm...I've got machines with XP, Vista, Win7, and Win 8. Even though
going from XP to Win7 was confusing (folder structure), I like it the
best. I hate Win8x with all the clicks I have to do to get to things
like the Control Panel and Network Settings. I avoid my Win8.1 laptop.
I'm not sure why you say that moving to Win7 will make the move to Win8.1
easier. Can you enlighten me?

TIA

You just haven't learned Win8. Control panel just as you had in win7 is 2 clicks away. Not sure how you get "all
the clicks".

If you add something like classic menu to win8, you have Win7 basic appearance and the improvements of 8.

"Big_Al" wrote in message
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Fokke Nauta wrote on 12/10/2014 3:03 PM:
Firstly: There are no 3rd party browsers.

Uhhh, I'd beg to differ. Firefox and Chrome could be called 3rd party.

Course I don't understand that term since the primary OS is first party,
so who's second party?




In this case, Microsoft is the "first party". If MS contracted a company to
make software for them, they, or their programs, would be the "second
party". Programs developed by non-contracted companies, (i.e. Firefox &
Chrome), are "third party" programs.

Paul wrote in :

Boris wrote:


Hmmm...I've got machines with XP, Vista, Win7, and Win 8. Even
though going from XP to Win7 was confusing (folder structure), I like
it the best. I hate Win8x with all the clicks I have to do to get to
things like the Control Panel and Network Settings. I avoid my
Win8.1 laptop. I'm not sure why you say that moving to Win7 will
make the move to Win8.1 easier. Can you enlighten me?

TIA

You could try pinning the Control Panel to the task bar. I think
I have that set up on a couple of OSes here.

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...in-apps-window
s-8-a.html

Paul

Why didn't I think of that! I do that in the other versions of Windows.
Thanks for the reply.

Big_Al wrote in :

Boris wrote on 12/10/2014 1:09 PM:
Good Guy wrote in
:

On 10/12/2014 04:02, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
IE suggestions wanted:

Google recently made Maps incompatible with IE8 and I have to get
the IE8 W7/32 machine to view google maps again.

I'm mainly concerned with functionality and am leaning towards IE9.
I don't care about viruses, security, or the latest-greatest thing.

Any good functional or compatibility reason to get or not to get
IE9, IE10, IE11, etc.? I have heard that IE10 was not very good.
It MUST be IE and not a third party browser.

If you are using Windows 7 then IE10 would be fine for it. The
advantage of using latest IE browsers is that they are backwards
compatible - this means you can view the pages in compatibility view
so that they imitate IE8. Not many people here would know this but
now they will all join in like a pack of vultures to tell you how
wonderful Windows XP is and all that non sense.

You have done the right thing to start using Windows 7 and now get
hang of it so that you can move to windows 8.1 sooner. With Windows
8.1 you can start using IE11.

Good luck.



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div class="moz-cite-prefix"On 10/12/2014 04:02, Paul in
Houston TX
wrote:br
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blockquote " type="cite"IE
suggestions wanted:
br
br
Google recently made Maps incompatible with IE8 and I have to
get br
the IE8 W7/32 machine to view google maps again.
br
br
I'm mainly concerned with functionality and am leaning towards
IE9.
br
I don't care about viruses, security, or the latest-greatest
thing.
br
br
Any good functional or compatibility reason to get or not to
get br
IE9, IE10, IE11, etc.?  I have heard that IE10 was not very
good. br
It MUST be IE and not a third party browser.
br
/blockquote
br
font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"If you are using
Windows 7
then IE10 would be fine for it. The advantage of using
latest IE browsers is that they are backwards compatible -
this means you can view the pages in compatibility view so
that they imitate IE8. Not many people here would know this
but now they will all join in like a pack of vultures to tell
you how wonderful Windows XP is and all that non sense.br
br
You have done the right thing to start using Windows 7 and now
get hang of it so that you can move to windows 8.1 sooner.Â
With Windows 8.1 you can start using IE11.br
br
Good luck.br
br
br
/font
/body
/html

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Hmmm...I've got machines with XP, Vista, Win7, and Win 8. Even
though going from XP to Win7 was confusing (folder structure), I like
it the best. I hate Win8x with all the clicks I have to do to get to
things like the Control Panel and Network Settings. I avoid my
Win8.1 laptop. I'm not sure why you say that moving to Win7 will
make the move to Win8.1 easier. Can you enlighten me?

TIA

You just haven't learned Win8. Control panel just as you had in win7
is 2 clicks away. Not sure how you get "all the clicks".

I guess what I mean is that I have to go to the lower right corner, wait
for the apps (Settings, Control Panel, etc. to appear) to show up, all
the while having to keep a steady hand (the corners are very finicky),
and then steadily move to Control Panel.

If you add something like classic menu to win8, you have Win7 basic
appearance and the improvements of 8.

On 10/12/2014 18:09, Boris wrote:
I hate Win8x with all the clicks I have to do to get to things like
the Control Panel and Network Settings.

How often do you use these things? To check your email or to browse the
web or to write a quick letter you don't need to access control panel or
network settings. They are hidden for a reason and only the
Administrator or a member of the Administrator group is entitled to use
them which they should know how to go about finding them. They are
Administrators, right?

"Good Guy" wrote in message
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| On 10/12/2014 18:09, Boris wrote:
| I hate Win8x with all the clicks I have to do to get to things like
| the Control Panel and Network Settings.
|
| How often do you use these things? To check your email or to browse the
| web or to write a quick letter you don't need to access control panel or
| network settings. They are hidden for a reason and only the
| Administrator or a member of the Administrator group is entitled to use
| them which they should know how to go about finding them. They are
| Administrators, right?
|

People who are handy might want to access
such things fairly often. CP has most settings.
There's no reason for that to require work to
get to. In that past it's always been right there
on the Start Menu *and* in "My Computer".

If you like Win8 it may be because you don't
want to manage your computer. Windows
versions have been increasingly designed to hide
the functionality. For corporate workers that's
necessary. In a business scenario there are workers
who are required to use their workstation only to
do specific work. Those people are not allowed to
access the system. If they need something adjusted
they call the IT people.

Hiding the functionality can also make sense for
people who don't know much about computers and
don't want to. For them, restrictions can make the
system attractively simple. That's the basic approach
of Apple. (As Steve Jobs said: "If people are allowed
to open things they just get into trouble.") Most people
just want a browser and a copy of MS Word and they
don't want to have to learn anything new.

On the other hand, for those of use who are a bit
handy and actually use our computer as a flexible tool,
the idea of "Administrator" is not relevant. And
restrictions or hidden functionality is just a time waster.
It's no fun to have to search online to find the "secret"
hack that allows one to perform an action that should
be easy and obvious. And I don't want to have to think
about how to do things. That would be like locking up
my hammer and power drill in the interest of safety. It
makes no sense and just interrupts my productivity.

I think the worst part of Windows 8 is that it's just
a monstrous design failure. The Metro screen is made
for touch. It never belonged on a Desktop/laptop computer
in the first place. By creating special active corner mouse
actions and obscure key combinations Microsoft has
created a product where the most basic functionality is
almost entirely undiscoverable and unintuitive. One must
be told or taught how to find all the things that are
hidden for no reason.

So that's really two different issues. Functionality is
sometimes hidden because Microsoft caters to business
clients who want to be able to lock out employees. But
Win8 with Metro has the functionality hidden because
Microsoft was trying to market their services UI to
everyone who buys a Windows computer.

Apropos of that, I read
just a couple of days ago that Microsoft brass are
hinting that Windows 10 may be rented as a subscription
service. The news had the look of one of those "test
balloons" -- put the idea out there and see how people
react. They're trying to decide whether they can get
away with making the change that they've been hoping
to pull off for more than 10 years now, ever since the
SaaS fad took hold. It's hard to picture it, though:
$500-$1,000 for a Surface and then an additional
$10-$20/month if one wants the thing to actually work.
No doubt they'll try to spice up the offer with free cloud
storage, free email and official membership in Microsoft
Shopping Club, complete with a special badge and
Favored Shopper Status. But maybe there will be other
benefits, too. For instance, with Microsoft storing your
whole life and handing it all off to the NSA, it seems there
should be no reason that you'd have to stand in security
lines at the airport.