Apple will no longer fix Quicktime security bugs (only solution isto uninstall)

In article , Jolly Roger
wrote:


quicktime plays industry standard formats, such as mpeg, h.264, etc.

it's windows that has the proprietary formats, such as wmp/wma.

And not just video formats, either.

wma is audio

On 2016-04-15, nospam wrote:
In article , Jolly Roger
wrote:

quicktime plays industry standard formats, such as mpeg, h.264, etc.

it's windows that has the proprietary formats, such as wmp/wma.

And not just video formats, either.

wma is audio

Right, sorry. Missed that.

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nospam wrote:

In article , Mayayana
wrote:

The great thing about QT being phased out on
Windows is that websites offering only QT formats
will have to adapt, so no one will any longer need
QT.

quicktime is a technology, not a format. there is no such thing as a
qt-only format.

So if I see a video icon on a web page, and it has the "Q" logo, what
does that mean if it's there's no such thing as the Quicktime format?

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On Fri, 15 Apr 2016 15:22:40 +0000, Marob Katon wrote:


I have never used Quicktime but I found it on my Windows computer.
Where did it come from?
I never installed it.

It usually comes with iTunes.



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On 4/15/2016 2:36 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2016-04-15, Rene lamontagne wrote:
On 4/15/2016 10:47 AM, nospam wrote:
In article , Marob Katon
wrote:

yes you did.

it didn't install itself.

There is no way I installed it because I don't use it and I never
would use it. Maybe it came with some malware?

no

It IS malware.

How is it malware, in your opinion?


It is hard to get rid of and is of no value on my system.

Rene

In article ,
Barry Margolin wrote:

The great thing about QT being phased out on
Windows is that websites offering only QT formats
will have to adapt, so no one will any longer need
QT.

quicktime is a technology, not a format. there is no such thing as a
qt-only format.

So if I see a video icon on a web page, and it has the "Q" logo, what
does that mean if it's there's no such thing as the Quicktime format?

quicktime is a technology for time-based media, which is usually audio
and/or video but can actually be anything with a timeline.

quicktime includes an app called quicktime player which uses the
underlying quicktime technology to play content. many people confuse
the two.

quicktime player is not the only app that uses quicktime to play
content. there are many third party apps, some with additional features
over the bundled app.

the formats that quicktime can play depend on which codecs are
installed. all that's needed for a given format is a suitable codec.

in other words, *any* format can be played with quicktime.

quicktime comes with the usual standard codecs (including h.264, mpeg,
mp3 and aac).

third parties have created codecs for non-standard formats, including
wmv, divx and others. in fact, microsoft even sponsored the wmv/wma
codec which means it works properly.

to play any of those formats, all the user needs to do is install the
appropriate codec.

there's even a codec that renders any video in ascii art. it may not be
the most useful codec, but it's definitely good for a laugh.

tl;dr - quicktime provides for the ability to play music and movies in
any format.

Marob Katon wrote:
Max Muller wrote in message :

U.S. agency advises Windows PC users remove Apple's QuickTime over bugs
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ap...-idUSKCN0XB2U0

Apple won't fix the security bugs.
Apple to deprecate QuickTime for Windows after discovery of two flaws
http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/...y-of-two-flaws

The only solution is to uninstall, if you have quicktime:
Uninstall QuickTime for Windows: Apple will not patch its security bugs
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/04...e_for_windows/

Mac probably to come soon, but I didn't see any mention of osx.


I have never used Quicktime but I found it on my Windows computer.
Where did it come from?
I never installed it.


QuickTime comes in as a component of iTunes.

iTunes won't start without QuickTime.

QuickTime won't start without AppleApplicationSupport.

iTunes has as many as five MSI files inside it,
QuickTime is one of them. The iTunes installer
lost the Gears optical disc burning software
at some point.

The QuickTime installer has three MSI files inside it.
AppleSoftwareUpdates and AppleApplicationSupport are
the other two, besides QuickTime.msi.

There will be just a few unhappy people out there,
when their iTunes becomes a flaming hulk of useless bytes :-)
If you have iTunes, be careful before swinging that
club, and removing QuickTime :-)

Apple decided it was cool to tie iTunes to QuickTime.
Now, I bet they are regretting this unnecessary
design decision.

Paul

In article , Paul wrote:

The QuickTime installer has three MSI files inside it.
AppleSoftwareUpdates and AppleApplicationSupport are
the other two, besides QuickTime.msi.

who cares.

There will be just a few unhappy people out there,
when their iTunes becomes a flaming hulk of useless bytes :-)
If you have iTunes, be careful before swinging that
club, and removing QuickTime :-)

obviously, a new version of itunes is coming.

Apple decided it was cool to tie iTunes to QuickTime.
Now, I bet they are regretting this unnecessary
design decision.

it was necessary.

On 15 Apr 2016, Marob Katon wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

I have never used Quicktime but I found it on my Windows computer.
Where did it come from?
I never installed it.

It can be bundled in with other things - a common one is iTunes.

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On Friday, 15 April 2016 12:44 -0400,
in article ,
nospam wrote:

quicktime is a technology, not a format. there is no such thing as a
qt-only format.

You're forgetting .mov (QuickTime File Format) and .qtvr (QuickTime
VR) formats

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuickTime_File_Format
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qtvr

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In article , David
Ritz wrote:

quicktime is a technology, not a format. there is no such thing as a
qt-only format.

You're forgetting .mov (QuickTime File Format) and .qtvr (QuickTime
VR) formats

you're confusing a file format with an encoding format.

On 15 Apr 2016, Paul wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

QuickTime comes in as a component of iTunes.

iTunes won't start without QuickTime.

Not true, at least with my rather old version (11) of iTunes. I just
uninstalled Quicktime. When I then started iTunes, it warned me that
would need Quicktime to play movies, but it continues to play mp3 files
as before.

I was concerned about this, not for myself, but for many people I know
who use iTunes to sync their Apple portable music playing devices.
Personally, I can't stand iTunes, but I'm glad for them that they can
continue to use it.

On Fri, 15 Apr 2016 16:00:21 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote:


Many pieces of software install QuickTime. It came with other software
you have installed.

I told him that probably iTunes for Windows installed QT.



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"What do you mean there's no movie?"

Paul wrote:
iTunes won't start without QuickTime.

That's not my experience. I just uninstalled Quicktime. I then rebooted
and started iTunes (12.3.2.35), no problem (on W7 Pro).

--
Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England

Nil wrote:
On 15 Apr 2016, Paul wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

QuickTime comes in as a component of iTunes.

iTunes won't start without QuickTime.

Not true, at least with my rather old version (11) of iTunes. I just
uninstalled Quicktime. When I then started iTunes, it warned me that
would need Quicktime to play movies, but it continues to play mp3 files
as before.

I was concerned about this, not for myself, but for many people I know
who use iTunes to sync their Apple portable music playing devices.
Personally, I can't stand iTunes, but I'm glad for them that they can
continue to use it.

I just checked the latest version, and QuickTime is missing.
I don't test iTunes all that often (and don't use it myself),
and it always had a QuickTime MSI in the past.

https://secure-appldnld.apple.com/it...TunesSetup.exe

SetupAdmin.exe 3/9/2016
Bonjour.msi 3/8/2016
AppleSoftwareUpdate.msi 3/9/2016
AppleMobileDeviceSupport.msi 3/3/2016
AppleApplicationSupport.msi 3/19/2016
iTunes.msi 3/19/2016

I guess that's why Apple has nothing
to say today. They've been planning this for
a while. My guess would be, since March 8 :-)

It'll be interesting to see what they use as a
substitute for display purposes on Windows.
FFMPEG maybe ? :-)

Paul