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Old May 7th 20, 07:03 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Got this Microsoft sign in request when I booted the computer - asked for
phone number, email address, whatever.

Then didn't accept any of them. After rebooting three times it skipped this
screen and finally went online.

Never saw this before.

Then I tried to watch a YouTube recorded event. No audio. Tried an earlier
event of same kind that had audio when I watched it yesterday. No audio.
Then tried a third time and audio had returned.

Guesses?

TIA

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Old May 7th 20, 07:56 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Got this Microsoft sign in request when I booted the computer - asked for
phone number, email address, whatever.

Then didn't accept any of them. After rebooting three times it skipped this
screen and finally went online.

Never saw this before.

Then I tried to watch a YouTube recorded event. No audio. Tried an earlier
event of same kind that had audio when I watched it yesterday. No audio.
Then tried a third time and audio had returned.

Guesses?

TIA


I get same because I use a local account; - I hit the X and carry on!

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Old May 7th 20, 08:55 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 07/05/2020 19:03, KenK wrote:

Guesses?

Limited intelligence from the user's side?Â* Just a guess here.




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Old May 7th 20, 09:12 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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KenK wrote:
Got this Microsoft sign in request when I booted the computer - asked for
phone number, email address, whatever.

Then didn't accept any of them. After rebooting three times it skipped this
screen and finally went online.

Never saw this before.

Then I tried to watch a YouTube recorded event. No audio. Tried an earlier
event of same kind that had audio when I watched it yesterday. No audio.
Then tried a third time and audio had returned.

Guesses?

TIA


Did it look like OOBE behavior ?

https://www.howtogeek.com/442609/con...ount-creation/

If you check Windows Update History link, does
it show any notation for what came in just before
you forced it to recover with the resets/reboots ?

Search results are so poor now, I don't know if
I'm going to be able to spot a pattern (say, with an
AskWoody or a Born site detection of a similar
result to yours).

(a good site for detecting the latest bugs...)
https://borncity.com/win/2020/03/02/...ate-kb4535996/

If you normally log in with an MSA, and had to set up
to auto log you in, perhaps this is some (regular)
re-authentication request ? I know on the Windows Insider
installs, one of the OSes installs constantly pesters
me to "fix my account" and if I ignore the notification,
I can still use the machine. I had to fix the account
once before (just logging in is enough), and it just
doesn't seem to stay happy forever and ever. It needs
a hug once in a while. What a load of carp.

Paul
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Old May 7th 20, 11:18 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Arlen Holder[_8_]
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In response to what GS wrote :

I get same because I use a local account; - I hit the X and carry on!


Could it possibly be Windows 10S and not Windows 10 Home or Pro?
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Old May 8th 20, 05:20 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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KenW wrote
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On 7 May 2020 18:03:18 GMT, KenK wrote:


Got this Microsoft sign in request when I booted the computer - asked
for phone number, email address, whatever.

Then didn't accept any of them. After rebooting three times it skipped
this screen and finally went online.

Never saw this before.

Then I tried to watch a YouTube recorded event. No audio. Tried an
earlier event of same kind that had audio when I watched it yesterday.
No audio. Then tried a third time and audio had returned.

Guesses?

TIA

Ghosts


KenW

I'm new at this Win 10 stuff; I usually use XP. I Googled and this
appears to refer to a W10 backup? Don't see relation to questions.

TIA



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Old May 8th 20, 06:56 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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KenK wrote:
KenW wrote
Ghosts

KenW

I'm new at this Win 10 stuff; I usually use XP. I Googled and this
appears to refer to a W10 backup? Don't see relation to questions.

TIA


But a thing like a UAC prompt, is just a dialog with
a Yes/No permission to answer.

A Microsoft Account prompt, that sounds like an attempt
to access OneDrive in the Cloud. Have you been tricked
into storing home directory files in the Cloud ???

Since this is a store bought machine, you'd have the
usual OOBE (Out Of Box Experience) sequence to follow
on first unboxing the product. They'd probably trick
you into creating a Microsoft Account (MSA) rather than
a local account. They make the account setup hard to
navigate, on purpose, to achieve this end.

That still doesn't explain though, how OneDrive would
get enabled. You can have an MSA, you can log in with
an MSA, without data having to go into the Cloud. It
should take additional steps on the users part, to
cause significant exfiltration of files. (One example
being, the cloud-based file scanning, if Windows
Defender thinks a file needs scanning that way.)

If I were you, I would review the "cruft" on your
computer, and see if a *third-party* utility is backing
up stuff. As much as OneDrive is doing it.

You have Windows Home (as it's the most common option
for OEM machines), so you won't have gpedit.msc to use.
In GPEDIT, you could control some of these things,
in Windows 10 Pro. GPEDIT settings are supposed to have
Registry entries that correspond, so with enough effort
in Regedit, you could turn some of this stuff off too.

For a new user, it pays to open the Windows 10 Settings
wheel on the lower left, and *go through every icon*
for settings. You'll find all sorts of policies where
you'd say to yourself "that's not very clever" or
"that's not how I want to run this computer". It'll will
take you ten or twenty minutes to turn all that ****
off, and then see what irritating prompts remain.

But with the OEM machine, I'd also be reviewing things
in Scheduled Tasks, to see if any freeloaders have been
loaded in there. For example, if you have an NVidia
video card, with NVidia driver, there are two Scheduled
Tasks you can turn off.

You can also use Autoruns, to look for freeloaders.
Use the All Items, and see what items are there, that
don't belong. It's a relatively comprehensive check.
I don't know if there are any Store App tricks that
could bypass the display of items though.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sys...loads/autoruns

Paul
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Old May 8th 20, 09:12 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In response to what GS wrote :

I get same because I use a local account; - I hit the X and carry on!


Could it possibly be Windows 10S and not Windows 10 Home or Pro?


Nope; - both machines are Win10H! I don't think version has anything to do with
it; - more like Win10 wanting to 'phone home' at every startup when user flags
as 'not signed in'!

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Old May 9th 20, 12:50 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Alan Baker[_3_]
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On 2020-05-07 11:03 a.m., KenK wrote:
Got this Microsoft sign in request when I booted the computer - asked for
phone number, email address, whatever.

Then didn't accept any of them. After rebooting three times it skipped this
screen and finally went online.

Never saw this before.

Then I tried to watch a YouTube recorded event. No audio. Tried an earlier
event of same kind that had audio when I watched it yesterday. No audio.
Then tried a third time and audio had returned.

Guesses?

TIA


Microsoft and its products suck?

Sorry, but it's awfully easy.

:-)
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Old May 9th 20, 04:36 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Alan Baker wrote:
On 2020-05-07 11:03 a.m., KenK wrote:
Got this Microsoft sign in request when I booted the computer - asked for
phone number, email address, whatever.

Then didn't accept any of them. After rebooting three times it skipped
this
screen and finally went online.

Never saw this before.

Then I tried to watch a YouTube recorded event. No audio. Tried an
earlier
event of same kind that had audio when I watched it yesterday. No audio.
Then tried a third time and audio had returned.

Guesses?

TIA


Microsoft and its products suck?

Sorry, but it's awfully easy.

:-)


It's not particularly an advocacy forum.

I'm thinking the presentation of the sign-in request,
could have been a part of the OOBE sequence asking the
user to define an account. Which some people here, set
up a local account first, before considering anything
related to an MSA. The purpose of doing local account
first, is so your "home directory" ends up with the
correct name on it.

You should be able to "reset" a Win10 OEM machine and
start the OOBE sequence all over again. Which is basically,
starting from scratch.

For the Youtube one, it could be a problem at the server end.
I would use youtube-dl and have a look at the currently offered
files, for a hint. Perhaps the only audio formats available,
cannot be played by the browser.

If the audio subsystem is compromised, it might show in attempts
to do other audio-things. I thought at one time, Firefox had
the ability to remember volume setting per web site, but I don't
know if it does that today. On Seamonkey browser, there's a
"Data Manager" where you can look for evidence of such.

Paul
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Old May 9th 20, 10:46 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Alan Baker[_3_]
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On 2020-05-08 8:36 p.m., Paul wrote:
Alan Baker wrote:
On 2020-05-07 11:03 a.m., KenK wrote:
Got this Microsoft sign in request when I booted the computer - asked
for
phone number, email address, whatever.

Then didn't accept any of them. After rebooting three times it
skipped this
screen and finally went online.

Never saw this before.

Then I tried to watch a YouTube recorded event. No audio. Tried an
earlier
event of same kind that had audio when I watched it yesterday. No audio.
Then tried a third time and audio had returned.

Guesses?

TIA


Microsoft and its products suck?

Sorry, but it's awfully easy.

:-)


It's not particularly an advocacy forum.


I know. It was a cheap laugh moment. Sorry.
 




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