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Old January 19th 13, 09:20 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Forte[_3_]
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Default How can Windows-8 upgrade be installed as clean ?

How can Windows-8 upgrade be installed as clean ?
When I installed Win8 upgrade on a clean hard drive
my key activation is not accepted. This tutorial doesn't
http://pcsupport.about.com/od/operat...ll-windows.htm
apply to my case as I already have installed Win8 Pro upgrade
on a clean hard drive and my activation key is not accepted.

Has anyone done it ? PLEASE SHARE your experience with me.
TIA



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Old January 19th 13, 10:58 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
John Doe
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Default How can Windows-8 upgrade be installed as clean ?

"Forte" forte world.net wrote:

How can Windows-8 upgrade be installed as clean ? When I
installed Win8 upgrade on a clean hard drive my key activation
is not accepted.


What is the error message? As far as I know, the only requirement
is that you install it on the same hardware (the same motherboard
and CPU). And of course, make sure that you are entering the key
correctly.

Has anyone done it?


Yes.

Apparently, when you pay for it, the activation server records
your hardware's global unique identifier (GUID). Then, if you do a
fresh install, it will check the activation server to see if your
current hardware matches the hardware that was used when buying
the software.

Additionally... Contrary to what everyone else says, you can
upgrade to a 64 bit Windows 8 from a 32-bit prior version, simply
by using a 64-bit copy of Windows 7 when you redo the download.
Same thing as above, it still goes by your hardware. The second
download probably won't work if you use different hardware when
trying it.
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Old January 19th 13, 01:46 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default How can Windows-8 upgrade be installed as clean ?



"Forte" wrote in message news
How can Windows-8 upgrade be installed as clean ?
When I installed Win8 upgrade on a clean hard drive
my key activation is not accepted. This tutorial doesn't
http://pcsupport.about.com/od/operat...ll-windows.htm
apply to my case as I already have installed Win8 Pro upgrade
on a clean hard drive and my activation key is not accepted.

Has anyone done it ? PLEASE SHARE your experience with me.
TIA



Look he

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w.../clean-install

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Old January 19th 13, 02:41 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Forte[_3_]
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Default How can Windows-8 upgrade be installed as clean ?



"KCB" wrote in message ...

"Forte" wrote in message news
How can Windows-8 upgrade be installed as clean ?
When I installed Win8 upgrade on a clean hard drive
my key activation is not accepted. This tutorial doesn't
http://pcsupport.about.com/od/operat...ll-windows.htm
apply to my case as I already have installed Win8 Pro upgrade
on a clean hard drive and my activation key is not accepted.

Has anyone done it ? PLEASE SHARE your experience with me.
TIA



Look he

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w.../clean-install

THANKS “KCB” for the link - very useful indeed.

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Old January 19th 13, 03:56 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Forte[_3_]
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Default How can Windows-8 upgrade be installed as clean ?

"John Doe" wrote in message ...

"Forte" forte world.net wrote:

How can Windows-8 upgrade be installed as clean ? When I
installed Win8 upgrade on a clean hard drive my key activation
is not accepted.


What is the error message? As far as I know, the only requirement
is that you install it on the same hardware (the same motherboard
and CPU). And of course, make sure that you are entering the key
correctly.


Don’t remember exact words, but it was informing me that “this is an upgrade
and you cannot install windows 8” as clean installation (?) – it was something like that.

Has anyone done it?


Yes.

Apparently, when you pay for it, the activation server records
your hardware's global unique identifier (GUID). Then, if you do a
fresh install, it will check the activation server to see if your
current hardware matches the hardware that was used when buying
the software.

Additionally... Contrary to what everyone else says, you can
upgrade to a 64 bit Windows 8 from a 32-bit prior version, simply
by using a 64-bit copy of Windows 7 when you redo the download.
Same thing as above, it still goes by your hardware. The second
download probably won't work if you use different hardware when
trying it.


THANK YOU very much, John,

This is correct, I think, in my case. I have downloaded
Win8 pro on my HP laptop, and the desktop installation had been done
on the other desktop Asus PC. That explains the rejection of my genuine
key during the activation. However, I have managed to free one of
mine 1GB hard drive and installed on it Win7 Ult. then proceeded with
installation of Win8, with not problem.

Thanks also for info on 32 64 version installation.
I can see a lot of “problems” in future, if we are going to use
a new mother board or hard drives doing the upgrades or
reinstallation of Win8. So, here MS wasn’t particularly smart (?),
giving us no more flexible options.

Thanks again !
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Old January 19th 13, 04:35 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Paul
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Default How can Windows-8 upgrade be installed as clean ?

Forte wrote:


"KCB" wrote in message ...

"Forte" wrote in message
news
How can Windows-8 upgrade be installed as clean ?
When I installed Win8 upgrade on a clean hard drive
my key activation is not accepted. This tutorial doesn't
http://pcsupport.about.com/od/operat...ll-windows.htm

apply to my case as I already have installed Win8 Pro upgrade
on a clean hard drive and my activation key is not accepted.

Has anyone done it ? PLEASE SHARE your experience with me.
TIA



Look he

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w.../clean-install

THANKS “KCB” for the link - very useful indeed.


Maybe I'm mis-understanding your question, but I'll toss this in...

*******

The latest Microsoft OSes, used the "double install method",
to defeat any notion of upgrade. It worked for Windows 7
and it appears to work for Windows 8 too.

I used the following method, placing the $39.99 Upgrade Edition
on a blank hard drive. The method using the .bat file with
the "slmgr /rearm" command in it, did not work. But the
"Refresh Your PC" option did work to activate my install.
This article provides two methods to activate, but only
one of the methods works.

"Activate by Refreshing the Windows 8 Upgrade"
http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...8-upgrade.html

My purpose was not to install multiple copies of the
same license key. Neither was it to try installing
the same (basically OEM) copy of Windows on the same
PC, over and over again rapidly. All I was doing,
was one and only one install, but without "providing
a qualifying OS". During the install, the $39.99
downloadable OS install did not see a qualifying OS.
And the equivalent of the "double install method", is
what worked.

Paul
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Old January 20th 13, 03:16 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default How can Windows-8 upgrade be installed as clean ?



"Paul" wrote in message ...

Forte wrote:


"KCB" wrote in message ...

"Forte" wrote in message
news
How can Windows-8 upgrade be installed as clean ?
When I installed Win8 upgrade on a clean hard drive
my key activation is not accepted. This tutorial doesn't
http://pcsupport.about.com/od/operat...ll-windows.htm

apply to my case as I already have installed Win8 Pro upgrade
on a clean hard drive and my activation key is not accepted.

Has anyone done it ? PLEASE SHARE your experience with me.
TIA



Look he

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w.../clean-install

THANKS “KCB” for the link - very useful indeed.


: Maybe I'm mis-understanding your question, but I'll toss this in...



No, you're correct in first instance...-
Using my Win7 - everything went OK...

*******

: The latest Microsoft OSes, used the "double install method",

to defeat any notion of upgrade. It worked for Windows 7
and it appears to work for Windows 8 too.

: I used the following method, placing the $39.99 Upgrade Edition

on a blank hard drive. The method using the .bat file with
the "slmgr /rearm" command in it, did not work. But the
"Refresh Your PC" option did work to activate my install.
This article provides two methods to activate, but only
one of the methods works.

: "Activate by Refreshing the Windows 8 Upgrade"

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...8-upgrade.html

: My purpose was not to install multiple copies of the

same license key. Neither was it to try installing
the same (basically OEM) copy of Windows on the same
PC, over and over again rapidly. All I was doing,
was one and only one install, but without "providing
a qualifying OS". During the install, the $39.99
downloadable OS install did not see a qualifying OS.
And the equivalent of the "double install method", is
what worked.

: Paul

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Old January 29th 13, 12:03 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default How can Windows-8 upgrade be installed as clean ?

On 19/01/2013 16:35, Paul wrote:
Forte wrote:


"KCB" wrote in message ...

"Forte" wrote in message
news
How can Windows-8 upgrade be installed as clean ?
When I installed Win8 upgrade on a clean hard drive
my key activation is not accepted. This tutorial doesn't
http://pcsupport.about.com/od/operat...ll-windows.htm

apply to my case as I already have installed Win8 Pro upgrade
on a clean hard drive and my activation key is not accepted.

Has anyone done it ? PLEASE SHARE your experience with me.
TIA



Look he

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w.../clean-install

THANKS “KCB” for the link - very useful indeed.


Maybe I'm mis-understanding your question, but I'll toss this in...

*******

The latest Microsoft OSes, used the "double install method",
to defeat any notion of upgrade. It worked for Windows 7
and it appears to work for Windows 8 too.

I used the following method, placing the $39.99 Upgrade Edition
on a blank hard drive. The method using the .bat file with
the "slmgr /rearm" command in it, did not work. But the
"Refresh Your PC" option did work to activate my install.
This article provides two methods to activate, but only
one of the methods works.

"Activate by Refreshing the Windows 8 Upgrade"
http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...8-upgrade.html


My purpose was not to install multiple copies of the
same license key. Neither was it to try installing
the same (basically OEM) copy of Windows on the same
PC, over and over again rapidly. All I was doing,
was one and only one install, but without "providing
a qualifying OS". During the install, the $39.99
downloadable OS install did not see a qualifying OS.
And the equivalent of the "double install method", is
what worked.

Paul



I found the following worked. With an imaging programme (Macrium,
TrueImage etc) save the current XP install. Create a clean first
partition of the size you want for the Win8 install, and restore the XP
image on to the second partition & make it bootable (may need some
fiddling with drive letters). Using the W8 upgrade, request it to
install on the first partition. This creates a single partiton setup
(no separate boot partiton which I find more convenient).

Strangely it also creates a startup menu in Win8 asking if you wish to
boot to the old XP installation (now 'delicensed' according to MS) which
continues to work OK.

Probably the same for Vista and W7 as well. Probably works the same if
you install on to a second drive without overwriting the original drive.

HTH

Chris K
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Old January 29th 13, 05:39 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default How can Windows-8 upgrade be installed as clean ?

"Chris K" wrote in message o.uk...


I found the following worked. With an imaging programme (Macrium,
TrueImage etc) save the current XP install. Create a clean first
partition of the size you want for the Win8 install, and restore the XP
image on to the second partition & make it bootable (may need some
fiddling with drive letters). Using the W8 upgrade, request it to
install on the first partition. This creates a single partiton setup
(no separate boot partiton which I find more convenient).

***Strangely it also creates a startup menu in Win8 *** asking if you wish to
boot to the old XP installation (now 'delicensed' according to MS) which
continues to work OK.


That's a unique difference with Win8 (the dual boot startup menu if it finds another o/s boot manager files).
- Earlier o/s (e.g. Vista, Win7, XP) when finding a previous o/s system files (boot manager) created a text based multi-boot menu.
Win8 creates one within Win8 effectively running Win8 in order to present that Win8 GUI multi-boot menu.



--
....winston
msft mvp

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Old January 30th 13, 06:35 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default How can Windows-8 upgrade be installed as clean ?

On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:33:00 -0000, "kreed"
wrote:



"Forte" wrote in message news
How can Windows-8 upgrade be installed as clean ?
When I installed Win8 upgrade on a clean hard drive
my key activation is not accepted. This tutorial doesn't
http://pcsupport.about.com/od/operat...ll-windows.htm
apply to my case as I already have installed Win8 Pro upgrade
on a clean hard drive and my activation key is not accepted.

Has anyone done it ? PLEASE SHARE your experience with me.

I bought the $40 upgrade deal.
I downloaded the .ISO and made the bootable DVD using Nero.
I started with a brand new SSD drive on my SATA 1 connector on my
motherboard. The DVD booted and installed Windows 8 with NO
request for proving prior ownership of an earlier Windows
product. I forget if I had to enter the Product Key - it's been
several months - but I probably did.

I didn't like Windows 8 after a few days, so I reinstalled
Windows 7 from my retail install disk.
 




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