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  #1  
Old May 10th 19, 05:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
KenK
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Default Another web site annoyance

I notice recently that a window appears shortly after some web sites load,
blocking the site's contants, with no exit 'X' in the upper right. Usually
getting you to sign up for something or other with your email address. Like
you don't already receive enough spem! is there any way to make these go
away without signing up? Probably not.

Some news sites, like New York Times, are now limiting the number of visits
to three or using the above blocking window. sigh

Getting so I'll have to find a replacement of some sort for much of my
internet usage. Is nothing sacred? g

TIA



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Old May 10th 19, 08:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul[_32_]
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Default Another web site annoyance

KenK wrote:
I notice recently that a window appears shortly after some web sites load,
blocking the site's contants, with no exit 'X' in the upper right. Usually
getting you to sign up for something or other with your email address. Like
you don't already receive enough spem! is there any way to make these go
away without signing up? Probably not.

Some news sites, like New York Times, are now limiting the number of visits
to three or using the above blocking window. sigh

Getting so I'll have to find a replacement of some sort for much of my
internet usage. Is nothing sacred? g

TIA


There is Tampermonkey/Greasemonkey, with attendant risks from
the pool of existing scripts they can use.

This is perhaps just as scary. You would want to do this,
on a browser where, if it needed to be trashed, you wouldn't
mind removing the browser entirely and reinstalling. Chrome
has a gazillion storage locations and I wouldn't know what to
remove to reset an extension like this. And besides, Chrome isn't
likely to work on WinXP anyway, so I suppose this isn't that
helpful. But at least this approach doesn't require a CS degree
and "programming homework" for the user.

https://www.reddit.com/r/YouShouldKn..._overlay_that/

This is the kind of thing you'd set up in a VM. I can run
Win7 or Win10 on my WinXP machine, because I have VirtualBox
5.2.x running there. If I needed Chrome running on the machine,
I'd put it in a container and run it.

It could be difficult to reproduce your exact symptoms,
since the way a website treats you is a function of the
tracking it does, how many visits you've made, whether it
has effective cookies it can use to figure out who you
are and how aggressive the popovers have to be.

Paul
  #3  
Old May 10th 19, 09:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Jerry Hatrick
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Default Another web site annoyance

KenK wrote:
I notice recently that a window appears shortly after some web sites load,
blocking the site's contants, with no exit 'X' in the upper right. Usually
getting you to sign up for something or other with your email address. Like
you don't already receive enough spem! is there any way to make these go
away without signing up? Probably not.


I know what you mean. These sites should give us stuff for free, no
questions asked, just because we are seniors.

Some news sites, like New York Times, are now limiting the number of visits
to three or using the above blocking window. sigh


I also have not learned how to clear cookies and site data. We seniors
should not have to learn new tricks.

Getting so I'll have to find a replacement of some sort for much of my
internet usage. Is nothing sacred? g


I held up all my seniors discount cards for the webcam to see, and still
nothing happened. I may have to go back to spending all day drinking
one bottomless cup of coffee and watching the world pass by.

  #4  
Old May 10th 19, 10:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
No_Name
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Default Another web site annoyance

On 10 May 2019 16:38:07 GMT, KenK wrote:

I notice recently that a window appears shortly after some web sites load,
blocking the site's contants, with no exit 'X' in the upper right. Usually
getting you to sign up for something or other with your email address. Like
you don't already receive enough spem! is there any way to make these go
away without signing up? Probably not.

Some news sites, like New York Times, are now limiting the number of visits
to three or using the above blocking window. sigh

Getting so I'll have to find a replacement of some sort for much of my
internet usage. Is nothing sacred? g

TIA


I think if you delete the NYT cookies, they can't see how many times
you were there. I have my browser set up to delete all cookies on the
close with a very few exceptions. Most cookies are just ad bait
anyway.
  #5  
Old May 10th 19, 10:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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Default Another web site annoyance

In message , Paul
writes:
KenK wrote:
I notice recently that a window appears shortly after some web sites
load, blocking the site's contants, with no exit 'X' in the upper
right. Usually getting you to sign up for something or other with
your email address. Like you don't already receive enough spem! is
there any way to make these go away without signing up? Probably not.


If you have the AdBlockPlus extension (red octagon with ABP on it),
click on the little triangle next to it and pick "Select element to
hide". I find this effective in dismissing popovers. You undo them by
selecting Filter preferences for the same list, under the Custom
filters.
[]
remove to reset an extension like this. And besides, Chrome isn't
likely to work on WinXP anyway, so I suppose this isn't that


IIRR, it did; not the latest version, but still one that worked better
on a lot of websites than my old Firefox (though I still tried the
latter first).
[]
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  #6  
Old May 10th 19, 11:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Bill in Co[_3_]
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Default Another web site annoyance

Paul wrote:
KenK wrote:
I notice recently that a window appears shortly after some web sites
load, blocking the site's contants, with no exit 'X' in the upper right.
Usually getting you to sign up for something or other with your email
address. Like you don't already receive enough spem! is there any way to
make these go away without signing up? Probably not.

Some news sites, like New York Times, are now limiting the number of
visits to three or using the above blocking window. sigh

Getting so I'll have to find a replacement of some sort for much of my
internet usage. Is nothing sacred? g

TIA


There is Tampermonkey/Greasemonkey, with attendant risks from
the pool of existing scripts they can use.

This is perhaps just as scary. You would want to do this,
on a browser where, if it needed to be trashed, you wouldn't
mind removing the browser entirely and reinstalling. Chrome
has a gazillion storage locations and I wouldn't know what to
remove to reset an extension like this. And besides, Chrome isn't
likely to work on WinXP anyway, so I suppose this isn't that
helpful. But at least this approach doesn't require a CS degree
and "programming homework" for the user.


Chrome 49.0 still works well on XP. I think it was the last version for
XP, and works as a fallback, when FF 52.9 doesn't work quite right on a few
sites.


  #7  
Old May 11th 19, 12:18 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default Another web site annoyance

KenK wrote:

I notice recently that a window appears shortly after some web sites load,
blocking the site's contants, with no exit 'X' in the upper right. Usually
getting you to sign up for something or other with your email address. Like
you don't already receive enough spem! is there any way to make these go
away without signing up? Probably not.

Some news sites, like New York Times, are now limiting the number of visits
to three or using the above blocking window. sigh

Getting so I'll have to find a replacement of some sort for much of my
internet usage. Is nothing sacred? g

TIA


So, you've never heard of ad/content blocker extensions to install into
your web browser?

If there is no "X" close button (which isn't safe because it likely runs
more script instead of just closing the Javascripted window), have you
tried using the Esc key or Backspace (or the left nav button, in case
your web browser has discontinued using Backspace as a default action to
move back a page)?

You didn't give a specific URL, just a description for an example web
site. I visited https://www.nytimes.com/. No popovers, like you
mention. I'm using uBlock Origin, and my config of which blacklists to
which it subscribes results in no popover trying to get me to divulge an
e-mail address. I clicked on several article links to go to another NYT
page, but still no popups.
  #8  
Old May 11th 19, 01:09 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Bill in Co[_3_]
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Default Another web site annoyance

VanguardLH wrote:
KenK wrote:

I notice recently that a window appears shortly after some web sites
load, blocking the site's contants, with no exit 'X' in the upper right.
Usually getting you to sign up for something or other with your email
address. Like you don't already receive enough spem! is there any way to
make these go away without signing up? Probably not.

Some news sites, like New York Times, are now limiting the number of
visits to three or using the above blocking window. sigh

Getting so I'll have to find a replacement of some sort for much of my
internet usage. Is nothing sacred? g

TIA


So, you've never heard of ad/content blocker extensions to install into
your web browser?

If there is no "X" close button (which isn't safe because it likely runs
more script instead of just closing the Javascripted window), have you
tried using the Esc key or Backspace (or the left nav button, in case
your web browser has discontinued using Backspace as a default action to
move back a page)?

You didn't give a specific URL, just a description for an example web
site. I visited https://www.nytimes.com/. No popovers, like you
mention. I'm using uBlock Origin, and my config of which blacklists to
which it subscribes results in no popover trying to get me to divulge an
e-mail address. I clicked on several article links to go to another NYT
page, but still no popups.


Indeed. But one wonders why we have to go through all these hoops. No,
nevermind, we don't need to wonder; we know why. Ultimately, it all simply
comes down to greed, and the ever increasing "need" for more and more
monetization. But in the culture we're currently living in, it's no big
surprise, anymore. /sarcasm off


  #9  
Old May 18th 19, 06:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
KenK
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Default Another web site annoyance

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in
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In message , Paul
writes:
KenK wrote:
I notice recently that a window appears shortly after some web sites
load, blocking the site's contants, with no exit 'X' in the upper
right. Usually getting you to sign up for something or other with
your email address. Like you don't already receive enough spem! is
there any way to make these go away without signing up? Probably

not.

If you have the AdBlockPlus extension (red octagon with ABP on it),
click on the little triangle next to it and pick "Select element to
hide". I find this effective in dismissing popovers. You undo them by
selecting Filter preferences for the same list, under the Custom
filters.
[]
remove to reset an extension like this. And besides, Chrome isn't
likely to work on WinXP anyway, so I suppose this isn't that


IIRR, it did; not the latest version, but still one that worked better
on a lot of websites than my old Firefox (though I still tried the
latter first).
[]


OK. DLed adblock plus as xpi file. Despite much Googling cannot figure
out how to install it. Tried clicking and double-clicking it in Firefox
DL folder but nothing I see there seems to install it. Is it installed
and I don't see its icon in Firefox?

Help!

TIA


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Old May 18th 19, 07:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Bill in Co[_3_]
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Default Another web site annoyance

KenK wrote:
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in
:

In message , Paul
writes:
KenK wrote:
I notice recently that a window appears shortly after some web sites
load, blocking the site's contants, with no exit 'X' in the upper
right. Usually getting you to sign up for something or other with
your email address. Like you don't already receive enough spem! is
there any way to make these go away without signing up? Probably not.


If you have the AdBlockPlus extension (red octagon with ABP on it),
click on the little triangle next to it and pick "Select element to
hide". I find this effective in dismissing popovers. You undo them by
selecting Filter preferences for the same list, under the Custom
filters.
[]
remove to reset an extension like this. And besides, Chrome isn't
likely to work on WinXP anyway, so I suppose this isn't that


IIRR, it did; not the latest version, but still one that worked better
on a lot of websites than my old Firefox (though I still tried the
latter first).
[]


OK. DLed adblock plus as xpi file. Despite much Googling cannot figure
out how to install it. Tried clicking and double-clicking it in Firefox
DL folder but nothing I see there seems to install it. Is it installed
and I don't see its icon in Firefox?

Help!

TIA


Open up Firefox to the add-ons menu, then "drag" the xpi file with your
mouse into your opened add-on window in Firefox and you'll get a prompt to
install the add-on. (If you Google it further, you may find a clearer
explanation somewhere, but I think I've given you the essence of it)


  #11  
Old May 19th 19, 07:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
R.Wieser
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Default Another web site annoyance

Ken,

OK. DLed adblock plus as xpi file. Despite much Googling
cannot figure out how to install it.


Normally downloading an XPI file with firefox causes an "shall I install
it?" dialog to pop up. Assuming you run an FF version which still accepts
XPI files (under XP the last version is 52.9), you could try to
drag-and-drop the download on the browser.

Ah, almost forgot: you /could/ have a version incompatibility problem: The
plugin cold be too old for the browser version you're running (though it
than /should throw a "can't do, incompatible version" dialog).

And something rather stupid: Are you sure that your file has an .XPI
extension, and not, for example, an .XPI.TXT one - with the '.TXT' part
hidden.

Hope that helps

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


  #12  
Old May 19th 19, 09:05 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Bill in Co[_3_]
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Default Another web site annoyance

R.Wieser wrote:
Ken,

OK. DLed adblock plus as xpi file. Despite much Googling
cannot figure out how to install it.


Normally downloading an XPI file with firefox causes an "shall I install
it?" dialog to pop up. Assuming you run an FF version which still
accepts XPI files (under XP the last version is 52.9), you could try to
drag-and-drop the download on the browser.

Ah, almost forgot: you /could/ have a version incompatibility problem: The
plugin cold be too old for the browser version you're running (though it
than /should throw a "can't do, incompatible version" dialog).


Or possibly too new for the browser version? But just try dragging the xpi
into a Firefox window, as I mentioned in my last post.

Unfortunately, Firefox has removed the old extensions (which were great)
from their website, and they all have the new format now, although the
number of extensions, and some of their features, are a bit limited by
comparison with some of the past versions, I do believe. It is truly
unfortunate it got to this point, since the old format extensions were quite
superb, for those who needed them. (some call this "progress"). /snark


 




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