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  #151  
Old July 24th 04, 08:41 AM
Bruce Chambers
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Greetings --

No, I don't work for Microsoft. I'm vehemently opposed to the
piracy of ANY software maker's products.

You still have not bothered to demonstrate how WPA inconveniences
anyone _but_ the "wannabe" casual pirate. Until you can substantiate
this claim, you might as well stop mindlessly repeating yourself.


Bruce Chambers
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"Alias" wrote in message
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Do you work for Microsoft? I liked the convenience that Win NT,

2000, 98 and
Me had. THAT's the alternative I would like, thank you very much.

Why you
must defend the WPA that does not inconvenience pirates and ONLY
inconveniences bondafide CUSTOMERS THAT PAY is beyond me.



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  #152  
Old July 24th 04, 09:25 AM
Alias
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"Bruce Chambers" wrote
Greetings --

No, I don't work for Microsoft. I'm vehemently opposed to the
piracy of ANY software maker's products.

You still have not bothered to demonstrate how WPA inconveniences
anyone _but_ the "wannabe" casual pirate. Until you can substantiate
this claim, you might as well stop mindlessly repeating yourself.


Bruce Chambers


Both the Internet and the phone activation is an inconvenience that users of
cracked software do not have to deal with. They also don't have to click on
the little "x" to get rid of the "you've got x days to activate" box that
pops up everytime you reboot. Users of cracked software do not have to call
MS when they decide to upgrade their hardware. Got it now?

Alias
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Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
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You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. - RAH


"Alias" wrote in message
...


Do you work for Microsoft? I liked the convenience that Win NT,

2000, 98 and
Me had. THAT's the alternative I would like, thank you very much.

Why you
must defend the WPA that does not inconvenience pirates and ONLY
inconveniences bondafide CUSTOMERS THAT PAY is beyond me.





  #153  
Old July 24th 04, 11:10 AM
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
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Default Why Only On One PC?

for reviews and such there are provisions to copy sections of books
for limited purposes.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"David Candy" wrote in message
...
You can copy one chapter of a book.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message
...
How does a book compare to Windows?
A book can not be used in more than one location at a time.
A book can not be copied so multiple users in different locations

can
use at the same time.
Since you think this example is reasonable and comparable, you also
think the similar restrictions in the EULA are reasonable.
Remember...it was you that said "Finally a reasonable post..."

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Greg R" wrote in message
...
Finally a reasonable post,
I never thought of that like that. A lot better the kurttrails

post
even.

On 21 Jul 2004 19:39:28 GMT, ospam (DJS0302)

wrote:


I like to compare owning a copy of Windows with owning a book.

Both are
intellectual properties. It's illegal for me to make copies of

either one and
sell them. The only difference is I don't have to buy multiple

copies of the
same book for each room in my house.






  #154  
Old July 24th 04, 11:39 AM
David Candy
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Default Why Only On One PC?

I wonder if there is a time limit. Copy a chapter a day and don't put =
the chapters with each other.

--=20
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message =
...
for reviews and such there are provisions to copy sections of books
for limited purposes.
=20
--=20
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/
=20
=20
"David Candy" wrote in message
...
You can copy one chapter of a book.
=20
--=20
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html
=20
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message
...
How does a book compare to Windows?
A book can not be used in more than one location at a time.
A book can not be copied so multiple users in different locations

can
use at the same time.
Since you think this example is reasonable and comparable, you also
think the similar restrictions in the EULA are reasonable.
Remember...it was you that said "Finally a reasonable post..."

--=20
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Greg R" wrote in message
...
Finally a reasonable post,
I never thought of that like that. A lot better the kurttrails

post
even.

On 21 Jul 2004 19:39:28 GMT, ospam (DJS0302)

wrote:


I like to compare owning a copy of Windows with owning a book.

Both are
intellectual properties. It's illegal for me to make copies of

either one and
sell them. The only difference is I don't have to buy multiple

copies of the
same book for each room in my house.



=20

  #155  
Old July 24th 04, 11:58 AM
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Why Only On One PC?

for reviews and such there are provisions to copy sections of books
for limited purposes.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"David Candy" wrote in message
...
You can copy one chapter of a book.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message
...
How does a book compare to Windows?
A book can not be used in more than one location at a time.
A book can not be copied so multiple users in different locations

can
use at the same time.
Since you think this example is reasonable and comparable, you also
think the similar restrictions in the EULA are reasonable.
Remember...it was you that said "Finally a reasonable post..."

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Greg R" wrote in message
...
Finally a reasonable post,
I never thought of that like that. A lot better the kurttrails

post
even.

On 21 Jul 2004 19:39:28 GMT, ospam (DJS0302)

wrote:


I like to compare owning a copy of Windows with owning a book.

Both are
intellectual properties. It's illegal for me to make copies of

either one and
sell them. The only difference is I don't have to buy multiple

copies of the
same book for each room in my house.






  #156  
Old July 24th 04, 12:09 PM
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Why Only On One PC?

for reviews and such there are provisions to copy sections of books
for limited purposes.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"David Candy" wrote in message
...
You can copy one chapter of a book.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message
...
How does a book compare to Windows?
A book can not be used in more than one location at a time.
A book can not be copied so multiple users in different locations

can
use at the same time.
Since you think this example is reasonable and comparable, you also
think the similar restrictions in the EULA are reasonable.
Remember...it was you that said "Finally a reasonable post..."

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Greg R" wrote in message
...
Finally a reasonable post,
I never thought of that like that. A lot better the kurttrails

post
even.

On 21 Jul 2004 19:39:28 GMT, ospam (DJS0302)

wrote:


I like to compare owning a copy of Windows with owning a book.

Both are
intellectual properties. It's illegal for me to make copies of

either one and
sell them. The only difference is I don't have to buy multiple

copies of the
same book for each room in my house.






  #157  
Old July 24th 04, 01:02 PM
David Candy
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Posts: n/a
Default Why Only On One PC?

I wonder if there is a time limit. Copy a chapter a day and don't put =
the chapters with each other.

--=20
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message =
...
for reviews and such there are provisions to copy sections of books
for limited purposes.
=20
--=20
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/
=20
=20
"David Candy" wrote in message
...
You can copy one chapter of a book.
=20
--=20
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html
=20
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message
...
How does a book compare to Windows?
A book can not be used in more than one location at a time.
A book can not be copied so multiple users in different locations

can
use at the same time.
Since you think this example is reasonable and comparable, you also
think the similar restrictions in the EULA are reasonable.
Remember...it was you that said "Finally a reasonable post..."

--=20
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Greg R" wrote in message
...
Finally a reasonable post,
I never thought of that like that. A lot better the kurttrails

post
even.

On 21 Jul 2004 19:39:28 GMT, ospam (DJS0302)

wrote:


I like to compare owning a copy of Windows with owning a book.

Both are
intellectual properties. It's illegal for me to make copies of

either one and
sell them. The only difference is I don't have to buy multiple

copies of the
same book for each room in my house.



=20

  #158  
Old July 24th 04, 01:28 PM
David Candy
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Posts: n/a
Default Why Only On One PC?

I wonder if there is a time limit. Copy a chapter a day and don't put =
the chapters with each other.

--=20
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message =
...
for reviews and such there are provisions to copy sections of books
for limited purposes.
=20
--=20
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/
=20
=20
"David Candy" wrote in message
...
You can copy one chapter of a book.
=20
--=20
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html
=20
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message
...
How does a book compare to Windows?
A book can not be used in more than one location at a time.
A book can not be copied so multiple users in different locations

can
use at the same time.
Since you think this example is reasonable and comparable, you also
think the similar restrictions in the EULA are reasonable.
Remember...it was you that said "Finally a reasonable post..."

--=20
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Greg R" wrote in message
...
Finally a reasonable post,
I never thought of that like that. A lot better the kurttrails

post
even.

On 21 Jul 2004 19:39:28 GMT, ospam (DJS0302)

wrote:


I like to compare owning a copy of Windows with owning a book.

Both are
intellectual properties. It's illegal for me to make copies of

either one and
sell them. The only difference is I don't have to buy multiple

copies of the
same book for each room in my house.



=20

  #159  
Old July 24th 04, 02:05 PM
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
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Posts: n/a
Default Why Only On One PC?

I am not familiar with copyright law but I think it also stipulates
the purpose of the copies.
I think the length is a % of the total.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"David Candy" wrote in message
...
I wonder if there is a time limit. Copy a chapter a day and don't put
the chapters with each other.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message
...
for reviews and such there are provisions to copy sections of books
for limited purposes.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"David Candy" wrote in message
...
You can copy one chapter of a book.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message
...
How does a book compare to Windows?
A book can not be used in more than one location at a time.
A book can not be copied so multiple users in different locations

can
use at the same time.
Since you think this example is reasonable and comparable, you

also
think the similar restrictions in the EULA are reasonable.
Remember...it was you that said "Finally a reasonable post..."

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Greg R" wrote in message
...
Finally a reasonable post,
I never thought of that like that. A lot better the kurttrails

post
even.

On 21 Jul 2004 19:39:28 GMT, ospam (DJS0302)

wrote:


I like to compare owning a copy of Windows with owning a book.

Both are
intellectual properties. It's illegal for me to make copies of

either one and
sell them. The only difference is I don't have to buy multiple

copies of the
same book for each room in my house.







  #160  
Old July 24th 04, 02:34 PM
David Candy
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Default Why Only On One PC?

Chapter for books, 10% for articles. And it's for review. But if you are =
reading a book is one not reviewing it? This is far more interesting =
than OEM software.

--=20
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message =
...
I am not familiar with copyright law but I think it also stipulates
the purpose of the copies.
I think the length is a % of the total.
=20
--=20
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/
=20
=20
"David Candy" wrote in message
...
I wonder if there is a time limit. Copy a chapter a day and don't put
the chapters with each other.
=20
--=20
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html
=20
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message
...
for reviews and such there are provisions to copy sections of books
for limited purposes.

--=20
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"David Candy" wrote in message
...
You can copy one chapter of a book.

--=20
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message
...
How does a book compare to Windows?
A book can not be used in more than one location at a time.
A book can not be copied so multiple users in different locations

can
use at the same time.
Since you think this example is reasonable and comparable, you

also
think the similar restrictions in the EULA are reasonable.
Remember...it was you that said "Finally a reasonable post..."

--=20
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Greg R" wrote in message
...
Finally a reasonable post,
I never thought of that like that. A lot better the kurttrails

post
even.

On 21 Jul 2004 19:39:28 GMT, ospam (DJS0302)

wrote:


I like to compare owning a copy of Windows with owning a book.
Both are
intellectual properties. It's illegal for me to make copies of
either one and
sell them. The only difference is I don't have to buy multiple
copies of the
same book for each room in my house.





=20

  #161  
Old July 24th 04, 03:28 PM
DJS0302
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our example is not really not all that bad.
Do you remove the book from one room before you take it to another
room?
Or do you copy the book so multiple users in various locations can
read it at the same time?


It's a lot easier to carry a book from room to room than it is to carry my
computer from room. Even worse would be if I had more than one computer and I
had to uninstall Windows from one machine and then install on different machine
every time I went from say the bedroom to the den.
I think it all comes down to degrees. Copying software or printed material to
sell for profit is wrong but I'm sure we've all copied stuff from books for our
own personal use even though they clearly state that no part of this
publication may be reproduced etc. , and I'm sure most of us have loaned a
friend a copy of a computer game to install on their computer even though most
EULA say you can't. However, if I had more than one computer and wanted to
install a particular piece of software on each one I wouldn't go out and buy a
copy for each computer. That's just wasteful.

  #162  
Old July 24th 04, 03:28 PM
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
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Default Why Only On One PC?

I am not familiar with copyright law but I think it also stipulates
the purpose of the copies.
I think the length is a % of the total.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"David Candy" wrote in message
...
I wonder if there is a time limit. Copy a chapter a day and don't put
the chapters with each other.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message
...
for reviews and such there are provisions to copy sections of books
for limited purposes.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"David Candy" wrote in message
...
You can copy one chapter of a book.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message
...
How does a book compare to Windows?
A book can not be used in more than one location at a time.
A book can not be copied so multiple users in different locations

can
use at the same time.
Since you think this example is reasonable and comparable, you

also
think the similar restrictions in the EULA are reasonable.
Remember...it was you that said "Finally a reasonable post..."

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Greg R" wrote in message
...
Finally a reasonable post,
I never thought of that like that. A lot better the kurttrails

post
even.

On 21 Jul 2004 19:39:28 GMT, ospam (DJS0302)

wrote:


I like to compare owning a copy of Windows with owning a book.

Both are
intellectual properties. It's illegal for me to make copies of

either one and
sell them. The only difference is I don't have to buy multiple

copies of the
same book for each room in my house.







  #163  
Old July 24th 04, 03:58 PM
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Why Only On One PC?

I am not familiar with copyright law but I think it also stipulates
the purpose of the copies.
I think the length is a % of the total.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"David Candy" wrote in message
...
I wonder if there is a time limit. Copy a chapter a day and don't put
the chapters with each other.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message
...
for reviews and such there are provisions to copy sections of books
for limited purposes.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"David Candy" wrote in message
...
You can copy one chapter of a book.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message
...
How does a book compare to Windows?
A book can not be used in more than one location at a time.
A book can not be copied so multiple users in different locations

can
use at the same time.
Since you think this example is reasonable and comparable, you

also
think the similar restrictions in the EULA are reasonable.
Remember...it was you that said "Finally a reasonable post..."

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Greg R" wrote in message
...
Finally a reasonable post,
I never thought of that like that. A lot better the kurttrails

post
even.

On 21 Jul 2004 19:39:28 GMT, ospam (DJS0302)

wrote:


I like to compare owning a copy of Windows with owning a book.

Both are
intellectual properties. It's illegal for me to make copies of

either one and
sell them. The only difference is I don't have to buy multiple

copies of the
same book for each room in my house.







  #164  
Old July 24th 04, 04:57 PM
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Why Only On One PC?

for reviews and such there are provisions to copy sections of books
for limited purposes.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"David Candy" wrote in message
...
You can copy one chapter of a book.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message
...
How does a book compare to Windows?
A book can not be used in more than one location at a time.
A book can not be copied so multiple users in different locations

can
use at the same time.
Since you think this example is reasonable and comparable, you also
think the similar restrictions in the EULA are reasonable.
Remember...it was you that said "Finally a reasonable post..."

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Greg R" wrote in message
...
Finally a reasonable post,
I never thought of that like that. A lot better the kurttrails

post
even.

On 21 Jul 2004 19:39:28 GMT, ospam (DJS0302)

wrote:


I like to compare owning a copy of Windows with owning a book.

Both are
intellectual properties. It's illegal for me to make copies of

either one and
sell them. The only difference is I don't have to buy multiple

copies of the
same book for each room in my house.






  #165  
Old July 24th 04, 05:40 PM
David Candy
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Why Only On One PC?

I wonder if there is a time limit. Copy a chapter a day and don't put =
the chapters with each other.

--=20
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message =
...
for reviews and such there are provisions to copy sections of books
for limited purposes.
=20
--=20
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/
=20
=20
"David Candy" wrote in message
...
You can copy one chapter of a book.
=20
--=20
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html
=20
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message
...
How does a book compare to Windows?
A book can not be used in more than one location at a time.
A book can not be copied so multiple users in different locations

can
use at the same time.
Since you think this example is reasonable and comparable, you also
think the similar restrictions in the EULA are reasonable.
Remember...it was you that said "Finally a reasonable post..."

--=20
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Greg R" wrote in message
...
Finally a reasonable post,
I never thought of that like that. A lot better the kurttrails

post
even.

On 21 Jul 2004 19:39:28 GMT, ospam (DJS0302)

wrote:


I like to compare owning a copy of Windows with owning a book.

Both are
intellectual properties. It's illegal for me to make copies of

either one and
sell them. The only difference is I don't have to buy multiple

copies of the
same book for each room in my house.



=20

 




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