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  #16  
Old October 12th 18, 11:15 PM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?

On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 23:33:55 +0200, "R.Wieser"
wrote:

Sam,

Rudy, time to exercise your Mark One Eyeball and just ignore and skip
over everything the morphing idiot posts.


I do for most of his stuff. But once-in-a-while (when he opens a new
thread) I happen to see the initial message.



Killfiling him solves that problem.
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  #17  
Old October 13th 18, 12:13 AM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 15:14:52 -0400, Wolf K wrote:

Jesus Christ, Arlen Holder. Put a sock in it. Your repeated rants
against people who "don't add technical knowledge" are getting more than
tiresome.


Hi Wolf K,

*The _less_ you worthless vermin post, the more we'll move forward.*

You have _never_ once added any technical value to _any_ thread.
You _can't_ add any technical value.
You're a worthless piece of imbecilic vermin, Wolf K.

*You can _never_ add on-topic value to any technical thread, Wolf K.*

Am I clear yet?
Or do I need to explain what you are more clearly, Wolf K?

Why you insist on proving you can't add value, is beyond me.

This isn't my first rodeo where you morons are 99% of any tech thread.
My goal, if it's not obvious to you morons, is to _alienate_ you.

*I clearly want you utter worthless morons, Wolf K, to "go away".*
You morons, Wolf K, are welcome to infest some other thread.

You morons all use the "chit chat" model of worthless posts.
My posta are asking _hard_ questions, Wolf K.

You can't answer hard questions, Wolf K.
You're a moron, Wolf K.

The moment you worthless chitchat vermin realize I _mirror_ your posts, is
when I begin to alienate you so that the _intelligent_ experienced people
here (if any), can help move the technical ball forward.

When you act like an adult, Wolf K., I treat you as an adult.
It's just that you never seem to act like an adult, Wolf K.

To wit:
a. Your post wasted everyone's time.
b. My post is intended to alienate you (and all worthless vermin).
c. As such, both our posts simply waste everyone's time.

*The _less_ you worthless vermin post, the more we'll move forward.*
  #18  
Old October 13th 18, 12:17 AM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 23:15:16 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:

It sure isn't your first rodeo.


*Do I need to be more clear with you Rudy Wieser?*

If it's not obvious to you worthless vermin yet, I want to _alienate_ you.

I want you worthless chitchat vermin to just go away.
Why do you worthless vermin insist on infesting a technical thread?

You worthless vermin have _zero_ adult value to add.

Are you so stupid as to not comprehend you can't ever add any value?

*Do I need to be more clear with you Rudy Wieser?*
  #19  
Old October 13th 18, 12:26 AM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 19:23:28 -0000 (UTC), Sam Hill wrote:

That would be everyone else...


We're never going to solve any technical problem with this thread infested
by you worthless vermin, Sam Hill (From: Sam Hill ).

*You worthless vermin ruin any technical thread you can find.*
You _hate_ technical threads because you have no value to add.

It's like someone called a potluck technical picnic that is Usenet.
And you, Sam Hill, can only bring a pile of **** to share.

When you, Sam Hill, cowardly bully a technical thread, I mirror your post.
a. If you act like an adult, Sam Hill, I treat you as an adult.
b. When you act like a child, Sam Hill, I mirror your childish posts.

If it's not clear yet, you worthless vermin can only prove what you are.
o Rudy Wieser is worthless vermin
o "joe" thinks he's a genius by suggesting "google"
o I'm sure "Good Guy" is posting, but he's in my killfile long ago
o Char Jackson proves he flunked his GED test _every_ time he posts
o Ken Blake also is a worthless vermin who _sometimes_ acts like an adult

We will _never_ move an inch forward when threads are filled with vermin.

All you worthless vermin ever prove, is that you _can't_ add any value.
It takes _intelligence_ to add technical value to this topic.

None of you, "Joe", "Sam Hill", "Ken Blake", "Char Jackson", "Good Guy",
"Rene Lamantagne", and quite a few other worthless vermin, have the
necessary intelligence and expertise to ever add technical value.

There are only a handful of people on this newsgroup who have the necessary
expertise and intelligence to, together, move this technical ball forward.

As any google will show, this is an age-old problem ever since MTP came out
- which we _will_ solve - but not if you worthless vermin continue to
infest every technical thread.

I'm attempting to _alienate_ you worthless vermin, if that's not clear yet.
Am I clear yet?

Or do I need to be more explicit?
  #20  
Old October 13th 18, 12:31 AM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 15:15:28 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:

Killfiling him solves that problem.


Jesus.

The _less_ you post, Ken Blake, the more we'll move forward technically.

*Do I need to be more clear with you worthless vermin, Ken Blake?*
Sometimes, Ken Blake, you don't act like a child - but not this time.

You, of all the other worthless vermin who posted their drivel, are the
only one in the group that has _any_ technical skills whatsoever.

And you just proved that you have none in this arena.
So why did you post, Ken Blake?

Just to prove that you can't add any technical value ot the topic?

HINT: *This is an age-old problem which I intend on solving.*

Having to waste my time alienating you worthless vermin helps nobody.

*Do I need to be more clear with you worthless vermin, Ken Blake?*
  #21  
Old October 13th 18, 01:40 AM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 19:40:20 -0400, Wolf K wrote:

The less of your crappy cut'n'paste rants you post, the better. For
everybody, but especially you.


Wolf K,

This isn't my first rodeo with you vermin worthless trolls.
I'm going to _try_ to treat you like an adult, using facts.

*Is it even possible, for you, Wolf K, to _comprehend_ facts?*

1. I asked a technical question, which is a _hard_ question to answer.
2. Almost _nobody_ has the technical skills, to answer my question.
3. Certainly _you_ don't have those skills - that is a given.

Hence, _everything_ you post, Wolf K, is worthless drive.
You just don't have the intelligence to move the technical ball forward.

Am I clear yet Wolf K?
Do you comprehend what I'm trying to get into your thick skull yet?

I will eventually solve this problem - but not from anything from you.

*You, Wolf K, do not have the synapses necessary to solve this problem.*

Please let me know if I need to be more explicit so that you understand.
  #22  
Old October 13th 18, 01:47 AM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 15:50:21 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

All of that was very well said. I've simply given up on him, as I
suspect most have.


Hi Char Jackson,

This isn't my first rodeo with you Char Jackson.

1. I asked a technical question, which is a _hard_ question to answer.
2. Almost _nobody_ has the technical skills to answer my question.
3. Certainly _you_ don't have those skills - that is a given.

Hence, _everything_ you post, Char Jackson, is worthless drivel.
You just don't have the intelligence to move the technical ball forward.

Am I clear yet Char Jackson?
Do you comprehend what I'm trying to get into your thick skull yet?

I will eventually solve this problem - but not from anything from you.

*You, Char Jackson, never even passed your GED for Christs' sake.
Hence, you prove you're an utter moron _every_ time you post your drivel.

I'm trying to alienate you, Char Jackson, because you're worthless.
We'll never solve a difficult problem if you continue to post your drivel.

To my knowledge, _nobody_ has solved this problem yet.
I intend on solving it.

But you're not ever going to be a part of the solution.
You just don't have the intelligence required to solve a difficult issue.

Please let me know if I need to be more explicit so that you understand.
  #23  
Old October 13th 18, 01:59 AM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Androidfilesystem?

On 13/10/2018 01:47, Arlen Holder wrote:




2. Almost _nobody_ has the technical skills to answer my question.


And yet you continue to waste not only your time but of those
unintelligent people on these newsgroups. Does this say something about
your level of intelligence? Wolf can answer this.


  #24  
Old October 13th 18, 02:58 AM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Arlen Holder
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On 12 Oct 2018 10:28:58 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

The only solution I know, is to use the FTPUSE [1] command on the
Windows system, to 'map'. the Android filesystem to a Network Drive.

An alternative is to use a SMB-*server* on the Android side, but as
you know, that requires a rooted Android device (because the SMB port
number can not be changed on the Windows side).

[1] At the time, you posted about FTPUSE, so I'm sure you know what it
is and where to find it. :-)


Hi Frank Slootweg,

You're the only one who posted to this Windows thread who stands a chance
of helping us come to a working technically competent solution on Windows,
since this is admittedly a _hard_ question, which has brought out the
chitchat trolls like you can't believe.

Paul, on another forum, also suggested MTPFuse, where I'll repost my
response to his suggestions below so that you can know where I am
proceeding to solve this problem.

Since the vermin-like worthless trolls (Rudy Wieser, Char Jackson, Wolf K,
Ken Blake, Danny DiVito, etc.) have _already_ infested this Windows thread,
it's dead since that is their intent, where those worthless trolls will
_always_ ruin the potluck picnic that is Usenet.

Those vermin are like a swarm of brainless gnats infesting a picnic.
Once they arrive, the thread is ruined for everyone.

See below for my response to Paul elsewhere.
==== ==== ==== ==== ===
Hi Paul,

Thanks for those useful pointers for how MTP works on Ubuntu 18.04.

As you know, the technical solution I see is a very _hard_ question to
answer, which is why the many worthless Windows trolls will have a field
day (since all they _can_ do, is troll).

I'm trying to move the technical ball forward, which isn't easy.

To be clear, I read what was written prior, where the "magic" is supposed
to be that Linux treats the Android file system as a "file"; but I don't
comprehend that answer well enough to turn it into a solution on Windows.

Do you?
Without a solution, this will be just a worthless chit-chat thread.

This description of the difference between libmtp & libgphoto2 says the
same thing, which is that "the unix way" is that "everything is a file".
http://libmtp.sourceforge.net

But that doesn't, yet, help me implement a _solution_ to the problem.

Looking at your 1st URL to see where we can come up with a solution...
http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/mtp-tools.1.html
That seems to make use of the libmtp package which is used by:
o MTPfs FUSE filesystem https://www.adebenham.com/mtpfs/
o Android libmtp client https://github.com/hanwen/go-mtpfs
o MTP support on KDE https://cgit.kde.org/kio-mtp.git
o MTPdude file transfer utility http://mtpdude.sourceforge.net
o The GNOME Virtual file system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GVfs
o XNJB Mac OS X GUI http://www.wentnet.com/projects/xnjb/
o GTK+ music manager http://gnomad2.sourceforge.net
o Amarok KDE music player https://amarok.kde.org
o Rhythmbox Gnome music player https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Rhythmbox
o MTPSync file synchronizer https://www.adebenham.com/mtpsync/
o JMTP FS https://github.com/JasonFerrara/jmtpfs

This is good information, Paul, because it tells us that "libmtp" is key.
It also tells us that MTPFS uses "libtmp", so again, "libtmp" seems key.

Looking at your second URL:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Media_Transfer_Protocol
We find there are a few Android related "FUSE" filesystems for Linux:
o fb-adb Android Linux shell https://github.com/facebook/fb-adb
o gphotofs Camera Linux mount http://www.gphoto.org/proj/gphotofs/

But mostly, if we want an actual solution (rather than just idle chitchat),
I need to focus on one of these three:
o libmtp library MTP implementation http://libmtp.sourceforge.net
o AFT MTP client https://whoozle.github.io/android-file-transfer-linux/
o go-mtpfs MTP FUSE filesystem https://github.com/hanwen/go-mtpfs

Given that information above, I think I'll first approach trying to get one
of those three solutions to work on Windows, if that's even possible.

Thanks for your insight in this difficult problem that, to my knowledge,
has not yet been solved universally on Windows over USB (but which does
have proprietary solutions so we _know_ it's possible).

Also, it has always been possible to map Android as a drive using a
*server* on Android (such as an FTP server, WebDav server, HTTP server, and
even, but only if you're rooted, an SMB server):
How to Map or Mount Android as a Drive on Windows
https://www.guidingtech.com/39472/map-android-drive-windows/
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.theolivetree.webdavserver

The goal was never to add a server to the Android system; so these
solutions, while they work, are out of scope. The solution you pointed to,
if it works on Windows, is the correct scope, namely:
o libmtp
o aftmtp
o go-mtp fs
  #25  
Old October 13th 18, 03:08 AM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 20:59:59 -0400, Danny DeVito wrote:

And yet you continue to waste not only your time but of those
unintelligent people on these newsgroups. Does this say something about
your level of intelligence? Wolf can answer this.


*You cowardly bullying vermin prove you insist on your _right to troll_*
o Ken Blake [From: Ken Blake ]
o Wolf K From: [Wolf K ]
o Danny DeVito [From: Danny DeVito ]
o Char Jackson [From: Char Jackson ]
o Rudy Wieser [From: "R.Wieser" ]
o Sam Hill [From: Sam Hill ]

Usenet is a potluck picnic, where someone asks a technical question, and
those who have value to share add technical value to that potluck picnic.

I asked a difficult technical question, which, to anyone's knowledge, has
never been solved on Windows - but which has long ago been solved on Linux.

I asked for experienced users who have intelligence, to bring value to the
potluck picnic that is Usenet.

Other than Frank Slootweg, who did bring technical value to the potluck
picnic that is Usenet, the rest of the worthless trolls like you came out
in droves to ruin the potluck picnic that is Usenet.

You trolls _always_ win.
Every time you trolls infest a technical thread, you ruin that thread.
Instantly.

There's nothing any intelligent person _can_ do, to get rid of you vermin.

You vermin are like a hoard of brainless gnats, intent on staking out your
territory to prove you have a *right to troll*.

I understand that - hence - this thread is already ruined since it was
ruined the moment you infested it.

*We won't learn anything on this thread - simply because you vermin exist.*

*You cowardly bullying vermin prove you insist on your _right to troll_*
o Ken Blake [From: Ken Blake ]
o Wolf K From: [Wolf K ]
o Danny DeVito [From: Danny DeVito ]
o Char Jackson [From: Char Jackson ]
o Rudy Wieser [From: "R.Wieser" ]
o Sam Hill [From: Sam Hill ]

I can't be more clear that alienating you, benefits everyone.
I hope you can _comprehend_ the message that you're worthless vermin.

You prove in every post, that you are worthless cowardly vermin.
You ruin every Usenet thread you infest, just as if you **** on the table.
  #26  
Old October 13th 18, 03:30 AM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On 13/10/2018 03:08, Arlen Holder wrote:
There's nothing any intelligent person _can_ do, to get rid of you
vermin.


You are completely wrong. An intelligent person can disappear from these
newsgroups, vermin can't be gotten rid of but you are very intelligent
so why don't you go away forever?. Surely, you don't want vermin to
infest your wonderful tutorials on which you have spent 40 years to
cultivate them.

As you know, this is a technical solution which you may find it very
hard to understand, which is why worthless Windows trolls like you will
have a field day (since that is all you can do - troll here).


  #27  
Old October 13th 18, 03:38 AM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Arlen Holder
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On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 22:30:00 -0400, Danny DeVito wrote:

You are completely wrong.


If you worthless vermin, Danny DeVito, had a solution, you'd have said it.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/eONWlmNhhPU
o Ken Blake [From: Ken Blake ]
o Wolf K From: [Wolf K ]
o Danny DeVito [From: Danny DeVito ]
o Char Jackson [From: Char Jackson ]
o Rudy Wieser [From: "R.Wieser" ]
o Sam Hill [From: Sam Hill ]

*You prove all you worthless vermin _can_ do, Danny DeVito, is troll.*
  #28  
Old October 13th 18, 04:27 AM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 01:58:11 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder wrote:

The goal was never to add a server to the Android system; so these
solutions, while they work, are out of scope. The solution you pointed to,
if it works on Windows, is the correct scope, namely:
o libmtp
o aftmtp
o go-mtp fs


Hi Frank Slootweg,

Here's a technical update...

While this question is a _hard_ technical question to answer, the good
news is that there are _proprietary_ solutions that allow Windows to map
the sdcard of the Android file system to a drive letter, which means we
can then run DOS commands on that mounted file system. e.g., MTPDrive,
which means an overall general-use non-proprietary solution should also
be possible.

I tested out a crippleware v2.10 trial version of MTPDrive on Windows.
http://mtpdrive.com/download.html
Where this is what I entered into my log file just now by way of testing.
================================================== ==========================
1. Install MTP Drive version 2.10 crippleware on Windows
http://mtpdrive.com/download.html
2. Create a shortcut to C:\app\network\mtpdrive\MTPdrive.exe
3. Connect the Android device over USB & run that MTPdrive.exe shortcut
4. Press the MTPDrive GUI "Map" button to map the phone to a named drive
5. This mounts the Android external sdcard as a named drive, e.g., (M
6. Right click to "Open Command Window Here" to run a DOS command
7. Run the desired DOS command on that now-mounted Android filesystem
dir /s/a/l/on/b *.apk

Voila!
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=1853998dir02.jpg

For another inventory of _every_ file on the external sdcard:
A. Connect the Android device to the USB port of the Windows PC
B. Run the MTPDrive GUI at C:\app\network\mtpdrive\MTPdrive.exe
C. Press the MTPDrive "Settings" button & then go to the "Settings" tab
D. Press the "Dump device data to a file" button C:\tmp\WPD.log

The bottom portion of that log file will contain a list of every file found.
\SD card\1data\software\apk\lgapps\Calculator-com.google.android.calculator-75013172-v7.5 (213680574).apk
\SD card\1data\software\apk\lgapps\Chrome-com.android.chrome-349710002-v69.0.3497.100.apk
\SD card\1data\software\apk\lgapps\Cloud Print-com.google.android.apps.cloudprint-140-v1.40.apk
\SD card\1data\software\apk\lgapps\Docs-com.google.android.apps.docs.editors.docs-183920235-v1.18.392.02.35.apk
\SD card\1data\software\apk\lgapps\Drive-com.google.android.apps.docs-183920235-v2.18.392.02.35.apk
\SD card\1data\software\apk\lgapps\Duo-com.google.android.apps.tachyon-2602856-v39.1.213443905.DR39_RC19.apk
\SD card\1data\software\apk\lgapps\Facebook App Manager-com.facebook.appmanager-46985667-v18.4.apk
\SD card\1data\software\apk\lgapps\Facebook-com.facebook.katana-1-vstub.apk
\SD card\1data\software\apk\lgapps\Gmail-com.google.android.gm-60804175-v8.9.23.215020111.release.apk
etc.

The good news:
o This crippleware allows us to map the external sdcard to a Windows drive letter.
The bad news:
o It only seems to work for the _external_ sdcard (not the internal sdcard!)
================================================== ==========================
  #29  
Old October 13th 18, 05:44 AM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 03:27:45 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder wrote:

The good news:
o This crippleware allows us to map the external sdcard to a Windows drive letter.
The bad news:
o It only seems to work for the _external_ sdcard (not the internal sdcard!)


By way of further update, the good news is that this test _proved_ that
it's possible to mount the Android file system as a drive letter on
Windows (which is exactly what worked automatically on Linux):
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=6181360dir01.jpg

The bad news is that, while a DOS "dir" command works fine with the
tested crippleware, a DOS "copy" is artificially limited by the
crippleware to 30 files per session.
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=8315262dir03.jpg

Obviously I'll continue to seek a general solution; but
this is at least proof of concept that mounting the Android
file system on Windows as a drive letter is clearly possible
without running a (SMB, HTTP, FTP, WebDav, etc.) server on Android,
such that DOS commands can run on that mounted Android filesystem.

We just have to figure out how, which takes brains, not trolls.
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Old October 13th 18, 06:12 AM posted to comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 00:47:34 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder
wrote:

On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 15:50:21 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

All of that was very well said. I've simply given up on him, as I
suspect most have.


Hi Char Jackson,

This isn't my first rodeo with you Char Jackson.

1. I asked a technical question, which is a _hard_ question to answer.
2. Almost _nobody_ has the technical skills to answer my question.
3. Certainly _you_ don't have those skills - that is a given.

Hence, _everything_ you post, Char Jackson, is worthless drivel.
You just don't have the intelligence to move the technical ball forward.

Am I clear yet Char Jackson?
Do you comprehend what I'm trying to get into your thick skull yet?

I will eventually solve this problem - but not from anything from you.

*You, Char Jackson, never even passed your GED for Christs' sake.
Hence, you prove you're an utter moron _every_ time you post your drivel.

I'm trying to alienate you, Char Jackson, because you're worthless.
We'll never solve a difficult problem if you continue to post your drivel.

To my knowledge, _nobody_ has solved this problem yet.
I intend on solving it.

But you're not ever going to be a part of the solution.
You just don't have the intelligence required to solve a difficult issue.

Please let me know if I need to be more explicit so that you understand.


Please elaborate.

 




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