From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?

On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 00:12:00 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

Please elaborate.

I guess I should have realized ahead of time that adding a WebDav server to
Android wasn't going to change anything, where the results would have been
essentially the same with _any_ server running on Android, whether they be
FTP, HTTP, SMB (if rooted), or WebDav.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebDAV

Nonetheless, I ran that test just now, which had predictable results in
that it worked fine to mount the entire Android filesystem as a drive
letter so that DOS commands would work - but - it only works over WiFi
(and not over USB, which is the goal).
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=8605173dir05.jpg

Here's my log file in case others wish to improve upon the process.
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How to mount Android filesystem as a drive letter on Windows
over WiFi using a free WebDav server on Android

Download and install any desired WebDav server on Android:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.theolivetree.webdavserver
Read basic documentation:
https://www.webdavsystem.com/server/access/windows/

You can run a WebDAV, FTP, HTTP (or even SMB if you're rooted)
server on Android, which you can then mount on Windows as a drive letter.
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=8605173dir05.jpg

WebDAV:
0. Make sure your Android device is on the local WiFi network
1. Download a WebDav server on Android
2. Start that WebDav Server on Android
3. A message says: "WebDAV server available on http://192.168.1.6:8080"
Home directory: /storage/emulated/0, password disabled
4. Change WebDav Server: Settings Home Directory = Root (/)
5. On Windows, open a r/w network share using the address:
http://192.168.1.6:8080
6. Or, on Windows, right click on "ThisPC" & select "Map Network Drive"
(Y = \\192.168.1.6@8080\DavWWWRoot\
7. Or, on Windows, in the command line, type:
net use X: \\192.168.1.6@8080\DavWWWRoot\

Any of those commands will mount the root of the Android file system
as a drive letter on Windows, over WiFI so that you can run DOS
commands on that Android file system over WiFi.
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=8605173dir05.jpg

But this won't work with USB, which is the desired goal.
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Arlen,

If it's not obvious to you worthless vermin yet, I want to _alienate_ you.

Hey! Thats funny, I want you to be an alien to. Preferrably *far* away.
:-)

I want you worthless chitchat vermin to just go away.

Yeah, you already made that clear. You're really trying to bully me for all
you are worth, aren't you ? But for some reason it still doesn't seem to
register with you that that method doesn't work with me. How come ?

Why do you worthless vermin insist on infesting a technical
thread?

Why do you keep insisting on spamming multiple newsgroups with your
contrived "I'm a noob, give me *everything*" questions - only to than wrap
that leeched info into some ill-contrived "tutorial" sprinkles and post it
with your, and *only* your name above it ?

And why do you keep doing that while clearly refusing to put any efort into
finding the answers to such questions yourself ?

*Do I need to be more clear with you Rudy Wieser?*

Yes please. Explain to me why your questions do not show you having done
your "what could the solution be?" homework yourself. And no, I do not
expect you to find the full answer/solution. But I *do* expect you to come
up with a bit more than nothing.

*Especially* when I had the (dis)pleasure to find out that some of the
answers to your questions only cost me 30 seconds if googleing^wsearching
for them. The fact that you did not find them really speaks volumes.

And, other that your ass-pullery fantasy accusations and claims, the above
*is* verifiable. Or 'facts' as you regulary claim you only speak.

As for worthless ? What do you call a beggar knocking at doors claiming to
be hungry and asking for fish, but refusing to learn how to fish for himself
?

Worse yet: You attack the fishermen who got wise to you and are telling you
you are not getting any anymore (and are warning other fishermen about it).

So, by al means just keep on posting your ad-hominem rants. As mentioned,
they serve my goals much more than they ever will do yours. :-)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

P.s.
Posts of several people who do not agree with your method of contributing to
these newsgroups, and you attack them all.

There is an old joke:
News announcer: "motorists on {important road} are adviced to keep to the
right, as a ghostrider is signalled there"
Ghostrider: "Just one ? All of them !"

You're that ghostrider, kid. Going the wrong way and refusing/unable to see
it. :-(

P.p.s.
I see you are pretty-much templating your answers^wrants. I see the phrase
"This isn't my first rodeo " pop up in several other of your posts (like to
Char and Wolf). Smart move. :-)

Arlen,

Hi Frank Slootweg,

You're the only one who posted to this Windows thread who stands a chance
of helping us come to a working technically competent solution on Windows,

Lol ! You think you are some kind of royalty ? If not, do you maybe have
a split personality that you are actually aware of ? If not, who the heck
is that "us" you are talking about ? You and who else ?

@Frank:
Just a warning: He will pump you for all knowledge about he subject you
have, and than some. Please do take notice of (the lack of) his
contribution toward the actual solution. Make sure you *help* him, and are
not just playing an unpayed employee (gofering for the boss).

@Arlen:

Once they arrive, the thread is ruined for everyone.

Its already ruined for most of us the moment you start it. I just serve to
"poison the well" for newcomers.

But hey, You *could* try to make your threads less attractive to us
"vermin". You already know how. You only have to do it.

Heck, you might even discover that you will get (much) more help that way,
enabeling you to enjoy the feeling of success having solved, with just a few
minor hints and suggestions, your own problem(s) ...

And I tell you a secret: I *still* enjoy being able to successfully finish a
(self imposed) problem. even after all those years. Nonwithstanding, or
maybe because of, that I often spend hours, if not days googeling my ass
off, finding tidbits of info that I than have to piece together.

I'm trying to move the technical ball forward, which isn't easy.

That is most likely because you have a singular "only when my specific
requirements are met its acceptable" focus, but no will to actually put
effort into researching possibilities towards it.

In other words: You sit back and expect/demand others to present such
solutions - matching your exact specifications - to you on a silver platter.
And yes, as long as you lean back in your chair waiting for others to come
up with your answers you won't be moving forward *at all*. Duh! But to
say that that laying-back waiting "isn't easy" is a bit overdone, don't you
think ? :-)

Ofcourse, seeing that you have had *FOUR* possible solutions and see you
cast them aside doesn't make anyone think that a fifth will not go the same
way - wasting all their hard work (always *their* hard work, not yours).
Take a wild guess why most people here shun you, kid.

but which does have proprietary solutions so we _know_ it's possible

*Everything* is possible. Its just a question of how much resources
(energy, time, money, etc) you are willing to spend on it. In your case
starting with an USB "packet sniffer" and than *lots* of time trying to
reverse-engeneer the used protocols. (if that ain't technical info I don't
know what is)

But do you even know what "proprietary" means ? And if you do, are you
really unaware that anyone providing you with a solution which would mimic
that proprietary method could well fall on the wrong side of the Law ?

.... which "possibly" is also why you won't find any third-party commercial
or GitHub solutions to it floating around.

Did you ever think of that, Arlen ?

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

Arlen,

*You cowardly bullying vermin prove you insist on your _right to troll_*
o Ken Blake [From: Ken Blake ]
o Wolf K From: [Wolf K ]
o Danny DeVito [From: Danny DeVito ]
o Char Jackson [From: Char Jackson ]
o Rudy Wieser [From: "R.Wieser" ]
o Sam Hill [From: Sam Hill ]

You have a growing list of people who all, in your mind, are against you
(and currently only a single one you seem to like)

How many more does it take to realize that *you* might be the problem, and
not all those others ? (which is what I tried to convey with my ghostrider
"joke")

Thats psychology 101 for you, kid. You do not need to have a 120 IQ to
figure that out.

Other than Frank Slootweg, who did bring technical value to the
potluck picnic that is Usenet,

I see you already fully forgot about the contributions Paul and others made
to your previous thread. Are you really *that* short of memory (my guess:
yes. They are only usefull - and remembering worthy - as long as they have
something you want).

And by the way, you are throwing that "technical value" blurb around. Care
to describe what it means (to you) ? Or is it just one of those "bull****
bingo" words with which you try to exclude everything you do not want to
hear ? (my guess: yes, its indeed exactly that).

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

FredW wrote:
On 12 Oct 2018 10:28:58 GMT, Frank Slootweg
wrote:
Arlen Holder wrote:
[...]

*But how,

The only solution I know,

Please don't feed the troll.
Did you notice how many non-related newsgroups were included.

Don't worry, I know very well who/what 'Arlen' is.

R.Wieser wrote:
Arlen,

Hi Frank Slootweg,

You're the only one who posted to this Windows thread who stands a chance
of helping us come to a working technically competent solution on Windows,

Lol ! You think you are some kind of royalty ? If not, do you maybe have
a split personality that you are actually aware of ? If not, who the heck
is that "us" you are talking about ? You and who else ?

@Frank:
Just a warning: He will pump you for all knowledge about he subject you
have, and than some. Please do take notice of (the lack of) his
contribution toward the actual solution. Make sure you *help* him, and are
not just playing an unpayed employee (gofering for the boss).

Don't worry! I know very well who/what 'Arlen' is and what his MO is.

Like you, if I see one of his 'new' 'problems', I might give a -
technical - response. After that, it's up to him. As long as he somewhat
behaves, I might continue, but as soon as he does his usual first-blood
drawing spiel, that's the end of me being nice.

Most times, it only takes one response to get to the first-blood
drawing stage. This time is an exception. Well, you can't 'win' them
all! :-)

Take care.

Arlen Holder wrote:
[...]

While this question is a _hard_ technical question to answer, the good
news is that there are _proprietary_ solutions that allow Windows to map
the sdcard of the Android file system to a drive letter, which means we
can then run DOS commands on that mounted file system. e.g., MTPDrive,
which means an overall general-use non-proprietary solution should also
be possible.

Yes, I am aware of solutions such as MTPdrive, but since these - as
least the ones I saw - are payware and you don't like/want payware, I
didn't mention them.

[...]

On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 10:18:04 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:

How many more does it take to realize that *you* might be the problem, and
not all those others ? (which is what I tried to convey with my ghostrider
"joke")

Rudy Wieser,
I'm going to _try_ to communicate with you as adults do, honestly.
o Adults speak facts.
o Adults comprehend facts.
Adults are funny that way.

You acted like a child, Rudy Wieser, in _every_ post in this thread.
o That's a fact, Rudy.

*If you don't comprehend that fact, it doesn't change that it's a fact.*

What you're doing Rudy, is blaming me, for _you_ acting like a child.
o When you act like a child, Rudy, I simply point it out.
o The fact you _hate_ that I point out that you act like a child doesn't
change the fact that you act like a child, Rudy Wieser.
When you act like an adult (if it's possible), I'll treat you as an adult.

It's children like you, Rudy Wieser, who ruin Usenet for everyone.
You bring _nothing_ of value to the potluck picnic that is Usenet, Rudy.
o All you bring to the potluck picnic is your worthless ****

So far, _every_ post from you was indistinguishable from that of a child.
That's a fact - Rudy - whether you ever comprehend it or not; it's a fact.

Alienating you, Rudy Wieser, will bring huge advantages to this newsgroup
in terms of actually solving difficult technical problems.

I _intend_ on alienating you - Rudy Wieser, because you're utterly
worthless, so it benefits everyone if you would just go **** somewhere
else, Rudy Wieser, and worse, every time you post to Usenet, Rudy Wieser,
you always bring your childish ****, which ruins the potluck picnic that is
Usenet for the adults on Usenet.

If I'm being too clear for you Rudy Wieser, just let me know.

On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 10:02:39 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:

Lol ! You think you are some kind of royalty ?

On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 10:18:04 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:

How many more does it take to realize that *you* might be the problem, and
not all those others ? (which is what I tried to convey with my ghostrider
"joke")

Rudy Wieser,
I'm going to _try_ to communicate with you as adults do, honestly.
o Adults speak facts.
o Adults comprehend facts.
Adults are funny that way.

You acted like a child, Rudy Wieser, in _every_ post in this thread.
o That's a fact, Rudy.

*If you don't comprehend that fact, it doesn't change that it's a fact.*

What you're doing Rudy, is blaming me, for _you_ acting like a child.
o When you act like a child, Rudy, I simply point it out.
o The fact you _hate_ that I point out that you act like a child doesn't
change the fact that you act like a child, Rudy Wieser.
When you act like an adult (if it's possible), I'll treat you as an adult.

It's children like you, Rudy Wieser, who ruin Usenet for everyone.
You bring _nothing_ of value to the potluck picnic that is Usenet, Rudy.
o All you bring to the potluck picnic is your worthless ****

So far, _every_ post from you was indistinguishable from that of a child.
That's a fact - Rudy - whether you ever comprehend it or not; it's a fact.

Alienating you, Rudy Wieser, will bring huge advantages to this newsgroup
in terms of actually solving difficult technical problems.

I _intend_ on alienating you - Rudy Wieser, because you're utterly
worthless, so it benefits everyone if you would just go **** somewhere
else, Rudy Wieser, and worse, every time you post to Usenet, Rudy Wieser,
you always bring your childish ****, which ruins the potluck picnic that is
Usenet for the adults on Usenet.

If I'm being too clear for you Rudy Wieser, just let me know.

On 13 Oct 2018 10:01:57 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Most times, it only takes one response to get to the first-blood
drawing stage. This time is an exception. Well, you can't 'win' them
all! :-)

Frank Slootweg,
Let me tell you a secret, since you acted like an adult in this thread.
o When you act like an adult, I treat you as an adult
o When you act like a child, I point it out & treat you as a child
Do you see Frank? It's really a very simple dynamic.

Sometimes you act like an adult, Frank.
Most of the time you don't - but - on this thread - you acted like one.
o So I treated you as an adult.

This isn't my first rodeo with people like you on Usenet, Frank.
For example, that moron Rudy Wieser acted like a child in _every_ post.
o So far, Rudy Wieser has proven he can only act like a child.

What Rudy Wieser does is blame me for pointing out his childish behavior.
o I simply asked a techhnical question that Rudy apparently hates
o So, what does Rudy Wieser bring to the potluck picnic that is Usenet?
He brings his childish behavior.

You, Frank, on the other hand, did not bring childish behavior.
On this thread, you acted like an adult, Frank Slootweg.
o So I treated you as an adult.

I'm really easy to figure out, Frank Slootweg, because I'm consistent:
o When you act like an adult, Frank, I treat you as an adult.
o When you act like a child, Frank, I mirror your intent.

See?
Easy peasy.

As I said, I've been on Usenet for decades, where my methods are honed.
My goal is to alienate children - so that they pollute some other thread.

Back on topic, I've partially solved the difficult age-old problem of
mounting an MTP device as a drive letter on Windows (it was solved on Linux
by default).

There are only two or three people on these combined newsgroups that _can_
help solve this difficult problem, Frank.

I'll bring up the technical issues separately as this is getting long.

On 13 Oct 2018 09:37:52 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Don't worry, I know very well who/what 'Arlen' is.

On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 13:36:36 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder wrote:

Let me tell you a secret, since you acted like an adult in this thread.
o When you act like an adult, I treat you as an adult
o When you act like a child, I point it out & treat you as a child
Do you see Frank? It's really a very simple dynamic.

Frank,
To reiterate what _you_ said, and what I said...

1. You erroneously "think", that "it only takes one response"
"to get to first blood" ... which is how a child thinks.

2. I have proved many times that my strategy is to funnel you
into acting like an adult - where - I do that the adult way.
o When you act like an adult, I treat you as an adult.
o When you act like a child, I treat you as a child.

What's funny, is that when _you_ act like a child, and hence, when
I appropriately treat you as a child, you do NOT see that dynamic
(even though I've been doing it for _years_ with you Frank Slootweg).

I've _explained_ this _many_ times to you, Frank Slootweg.

Yet, you _still_ think like a child, Frank Slootweg. A mere child.
You _think_ it's all about "first blood"; yet you don't _see_ anything.

You can't seem to _comprehend_ this very simple dynamic, Frank:
o When _you_ act like a child - I treat you like a child.
o When _you_ act like an adult - I treat you like an adult.

Your comment above about 'first blood' shows you didn't comprehend
even a dynamic _that_ simple.

That's sad, Frank.
Because it shows you own the mind of a child; not that of an adult.

You can't even comprehend that it's _you_ that I respond to.
o You only see the response - but you can't comprehend your actions.

That's how a child thinks, Frank.
The child doesn't see "cause and then effect".
The child only sees "effect".

When _you_ comprehend I'm a *mirror*, Frank, then you'll comprehend.
You'll comprehend that I respond to _your_ posts.
o If you act like a child - you will see "second blood"
o If you act like an adult - you won't see any of that

When you _comprehend_ that simple dynamic - you'll be an adult, Frank.

On 13 Oct 2018 10:07:25 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Yes, I am aware of solutions such as MTPdrive, but since these - as
least the ones I saw - are payware and you don't like/want payware, I
didn't mention them.

Hi Frank Slootweg,
Thank you for comprehending that I am always seeking *universal* solutions.

By that, I mean solutions that benefit _everyone_, not just one person.
As such, any payware tests are mere examples, to prove the concept.

The MTPDrive crippleware had two advantages in that regard:
o MTPDrive _proved_ it's possible to map Android to a drive over USB
o MTPDrive actually worked, for free, for "some" DOS commands
Since adults comprehend detail, this last point above is critical!

What it means is that MTPDrive actually is a universal solution, of sorts.
By that, I mean it runs the "dir /s/a/l/on/b" command to inventory files!

There were two limitations of MTPDrive crippleware that I saw yesterday:
o It doesn't seem to see the internal sdcard (only the external sdcard)
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=6181360dir01.jpg
o It limits a DOS "copy" to 30 files per session (but it allows a "dir")
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=8315262dir03.jpg

I realize, Frank Slootweg, that you are adult enough to comprehend that we
could _always_ have mapped the Android file system to a drive letter over
the Wi-Fi network (i.e., not using USB), so I appreciate that you
understood that from the start (e.g., you noted SMB servers on Android have
inherent port limitations in non-root applications).

As a test though, I did run the "ftpfuse" command, since I was hoping to
find a hidden trick that allows me to use ftpuse over USB (if possible).

For some reason, ftpuse v2.2 failed to map the network drive.
Have you ever seen such a thing? (The FTP server works fine otherwise.)
Here is my log file when I tested FTP Use version 2.2 this morning.
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=7687244dir06.jpg
================================================== ==========================
0. Download to: C:\software\network\ftp\ftpuse\FtpUseInst.exe (485 KB)
Wants to go into: C:\Program Files\Ferro Software\FtpUse
Install into: C:\app\network\ftp\ftpuse
Uncheck the box: run ftpuse /?
1. Install & set up & run any free FTP server on Android, e.g.,
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/be.ppareit.swiftp_free/
Defaults username=ftp password=ftp port=2121 folder=/storage/emulated/0
2. On Windows, open an Administrator command prompt & then run:
(For the FTP user "ftpuser" with password "ftppass")
ftpuse T: 192.168.1.6 ftppass /USER:ftpuser /PORT:2121 /debug

For some reason, this isn't working even though a browser works fine:
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=7687244dir06.jpg
And a ping works fine.
3. To unmount
ftpuse T: /delete
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On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 09:04:44 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:

So, by al means just keep on posting your ad-hominem rants. As mentioned,
they serve my goals much more than they ever will do yours. :-)

Hi Rudy Wieser,
I have an _adult_ on-topic technical question for you.

For some reason, ftpuse v2.2 failed to map the Android network drive.
Have you ever seen such a thing? (The FTP server works fine otherwise.)

Here is my log file when I tested FTP Use version 2.2 this morning.
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=7687244dir06.jpg
================================================== ==========================
0. Download to: C:\software\network\ftp\ftpuse\FtpUseInst.exe (485 KB)
Wants to go into: C:\Program Files\Ferro Software\FtpUse
Install into: C:\app\network\ftp\ftpuse
Uncheck the box: run ftpuse /?
1. Install & set up & run any free FTP server on Android, e.g.,
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/be.ppareit.swiftp_free/
Defaults username=ftp password=ftp port=2121 folder=/storage/emulated/0
2. On Windows, open an Administrator command prompt & then run:
(For the FTP user "ftpuser" with password "ftppass")
ftpuse T: 192.168.1.6 ftppass /USER:ftpuser /PORT:2121 /debug

For some reason, this isn't working even though a browser works fine:
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=7687244dir06.jpg
3. To unmount
ftpuse T: /delete
================================================== ==========================

On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 13:53:38 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder wrote:

2. On Windows, open an Administrator command prompt & then run:
(For the FTP user "ftpuser" with password "ftppass")
ftpuse T: 192.168.1.6 ftppass /USER:ftpuser /PORT:2121 /debug

For some reason, this isn't working even though a browser works fine:
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=7687244dir06.jpg

What's odd, Frank, is that _everything_ else works, _except_ ftpuse.
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=7687244dir06.jpg
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=7075400dir07.jpg

I picked up the latest version of ftpuse v2.2 from the canonical site:
https://www.ferrobackup.com/download/FtpUseInst.exe

I'm perplexed since it's clear the Android FTP server is working fine
otherwise with Windows, but I'll move on as running FTPUSE was just a test
to see if I could trick it into mounting the Android file system as a drive
over USB (not over WiFi, which we could always have done easily with any
FTP/HTTP/WebDav/etc. server other than SMB - which needs root as you know).

If there's someone else out there who wants to test how to get FTPUse to
mount their Android device as a drive letter, over WiFi, maybe they can let
me know if it worked for them. TIA.

Meanwhile, I'll move on to trying to solve the _difficult_ question posed
in this thread, where only one adult here (and one elsewhere) has added any
on-topic value (the rest were trolls from worthless little children).

On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 10:16:30 -0400, Wolf K wrote:

The less of your crappy cut'n'paste rants you post, the better. For
everybody, but especially you.

Wolf K,

Let's all see if you _can_ act like an adult, Wolf K.
Shall we?

Here is an on-topic technical question, for you, Wolf K:
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=7687244dir06.jpg

What's odd, Wolf K, is that _everything_ else works, _except_ ftpuse.
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=7075400dir07.jpg

I picked up the latest version of ftpuse v2.2 from the canonical site:
https://www.ferrobackup.com/download/FtpUseInst.exe

I'm perplexed since it's clear the Android FTP server is working fine
otherwise with Windows. The reason I'm running ftpfuse is that I'm trying
to see if there is a trick that will allow ftpuse to mount the Android
filesystem over USB, which is the holy grail for Android/Windows
connectivity that nobody yet, has been able to accomplish (to my knowledge)
sans proprietary software.

Since you, Wolf K, repeatedly post to this _technical_ thread, I ask:
*What happened when _you_ tested FTPUSE on your system, Wolf K?*