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Old July 23rd 04, 11:15 PM
Mille
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Default Windows Update reinstsall?

I've accedently installed Windows Update v5 on my
computer, and the old v4 thingy got overwritten.
XP told me directly that some system files have been
overwritten and I needed give it the XPSP1 cd to "undo".

But still, after it once again replaced the files with the
correct ones, some must be missing.
When trying to update, it goes to the v5-url.
When typing in the url by hand, it downloads the updates,
but they fail to install.

So my question is - is there a way to reinstall Windows
Update V4 (for XP SP1, if it mathers)?

Or does anyone have any other ideas on how to fix this?

Thanks.

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Old July 23rd 04, 11:24 PM
Chad Harris
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Default Windows Update reinstsall?

Mille--

I have 4 things to try in order of time involved I think will work for you.
My guess is you are working with an XP SP1 machine now.

When you say you've accidentally installed Win Up V5 on your box, how were
you able to do it on an XPSP1 machine--just curious?

1) See if you can reconnect to Windows Update V4 by putting this in your
browser in a machine that doesn't have SP2 in it--I assume it's an SP1 box
because putting this link in an SP2 box is going to V5.

http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com


2) You may get it done with one of Kelly's tweaks, I'm not sure but Kelly
would know if this will solve *your problem.*

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm (Line 179 Right) Windows
Update Grayed Out--Restore)

3) If those don't work, I think doing SFC correctly might well work.

I'm not sure since you mention Win UpV5 which I associate with XP SP2, but I
assume you have SP1 back on the box.

What I would do is to run System File Checker ("sfc /scannow) in your run
box). If you have a CD Slipstreamed with SP1 or an SP1 from MSFT--I believe
some OEM's shipped XP SP1 CD's--I don't think MSFT makes them available for
order--someone will correct me there if I'm wrong.

Windows XP SFC is defaulted by the registry to ask you to insert the CD. So
If you have an SP1 CD ("I needed to give it the XPSP1CD to "undo)--I'm
assuming you might after this comment then you can use it.

But if you have an XP CD, and SP1 in, you're going to want to edit the
registry to be able to use the SP1 Service Pack files.

Here's how:

Introduction to using scannow sfc (system file checker)
http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html

Read the section titled: "What about Windows Updates...."

The article explains that when you install an SP, the SP's I386 folder
gets installed at C:\Windows\ServicePackFiles\I386. It is important to make
sure that at

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Setup
\ServicePackSourcePath
This should be pointing to the location C:\WINDOWS\ServicePackFiles
(assuming C:\ is the boot drive.) I checked and it is. I also checked the
size of my I 386 folders and DLL Cache folders and they should be correct,
and hopefully the files are intact.

you need to make a second change and that is to
"tell your computer you now have the files on your PC. We do this is the
registry (type regedit in the Run box on the start menu) by navigating to:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Setup

You will see various entries here on the right hand side. The one we want is
called:

SourcePath

It probably has an entry pointing to your CD-ROM drive, and that is why it
is asking for the XP CD. All we need to do is change it to:

C:\"

I did this when updating to XP SP1 so that rather than an XP CD RTM CD, SFC
would point to the appropriate service pack file. Again if you have an XP
SP1 CD either from MSFT or Slipstreamed, you don't need to do this. I also
did it to run SFC with XP SP2 so that I would point SFC to the service pack
file of the particular build of SP2 that was installed and that would apply
to any build of SP1 or future SP's.

Finally this might also be still another way to restore Windows Update,
although MSFT has not updated the title of this MSKB beyond Windows 98. It
wouldn't be the first time you could pull from a KB to apply to a different
OS.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...ontent=1WINUP:
Windows Update Link on Windows 98 Start Menu Does Not Work


4) Delete and Re-Create the Start Menu Link for Windows Update
To delete and re-create the Start menu link for Windows Update:
1.. Click Start, right-click Windows Update, and then click Delete.
2.. Click Start, point to Settings, and then click Taskbar.
3.. Click the Start Menu Programs tab, click Add, and then click Browse.
4.. Locate the Wupdmgr.exe file, click it, and then click Open. You can
find this file in the X:\Windows folder. If you cannot locate the file, you
may have to reinstall it. For information about how to do so, see the
"Reinstall the Wupdmgr.exe File" section later in this article.
5.. Click Next.
6.. Click the Start Menu folder, and then click Next.
7.. Change the name of the shortcut from "Wupdmgr.exe" to Windows Update,
and then click Finish.
8.. Click Start, and then click Windows Update.
Reinstall the Wupdmgr.exe File
If you still cannot view the Windows Update Web site, the Wupdmgr.exe file
may be missing or corrupted. To reinstall the Wupdmgr.exe file, follow these
steps:
1.. Insert the Windows 98 CD into the CD-ROM drive.
2.. If a list of Windows 98 options appears automatically, select Browse
this CD. If this list does not appear, double-click the My Computer icon,
and then double-click your CD-ROM drive to display the list of options.
3.. Double-click the Win98 folder.
4.. Locate the Win98_43.cab file, and then double-click it.
5.. Right-click the Wupdmgr.exe file, and then click Extract.
6.. When prompted to select the location where you want to save this file,
select the Windows folder, and then click OK.
7.. Click Start, and then click Windows Update.
hth,

Chad Harris

__________________________________________________ ____________________



"Mille" wrote in message
...
I've accedently installed Windows Update v5 on my
computer, and the old v4 thingy got overwritten.
XP told me directly that some system files have been
overwritten and I needed give it the XPSP1 cd to "undo".

But still, after it once again replaced the files with the
correct ones, some must be missing.
When trying to update, it goes to the v5-url.
When typing in the url by hand, it downloads the updates,
but they fail to install.

So my question is - is there a way to reinstall Windows
Update V4 (for XP SP1, if it mathers)?

Or does anyone have any other ideas on how to fix this?

Thanks.



  #3  
Old July 24th 04, 12:14 AM
Chad Harris
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Posts: n/a
Default Windows Update reinstsall?

Mille--

I have 4 things to try in order of time involved I think will work for you.
My guess is you are working with an XP SP1 machine now.

When you say you've accidentally installed Win Up V5 on your box, how were
you able to do it on an XPSP1 machine--just curious?

1) See if you can reconnect to Windows Update V4 by putting this in your
browser in a machine that doesn't have SP2 in it--I assume it's an SP1 box
because putting this link in an SP2 box is going to V5.

http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com


2) You may get it done with one of Kelly's tweaks, I'm not sure but Kelly
would know if this will solve *your problem.*

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm (Line 179 Right) Windows
Update Grayed Out--Restore)

3) If those don't work, I think doing SFC correctly might well work.

I'm not sure since you mention Win UpV5 which I associate with XP SP2, but I
assume you have SP1 back on the box.

What I would do is to run System File Checker ("sfc /scannow) in your run
box). If you have a CD Slipstreamed with SP1 or an SP1 from MSFT--I believe
some OEM's shipped XP SP1 CD's--I don't think MSFT makes them available for
order--someone will correct me there if I'm wrong.

Windows XP SFC is defaulted by the registry to ask you to insert the CD. So
If you have an SP1 CD ("I needed to give it the XPSP1CD to "undo)--I'm
assuming you might after this comment then you can use it.

But if you have an XP CD, and SP1 in, you're going to want to edit the
registry to be able to use the SP1 Service Pack files.

Here's how:

Introduction to using scannow sfc (system file checker)
http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html

Read the section titled: "What about Windows Updates...."

The article explains that when you install an SP, the SP's I386 folder
gets installed at C:\Windows\ServicePackFiles\I386. It is important to make
sure that at

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Setup
\ServicePackSourcePath
This should be pointing to the location C:\WINDOWS\ServicePackFiles
(assuming C:\ is the boot drive.) I checked and it is. I also checked the
size of my I 386 folders and DLL Cache folders and they should be correct,
and hopefully the files are intact.

you need to make a second change and that is to
"tell your computer you now have the files on your PC. We do this is the
registry (type regedit in the Run box on the start menu) by navigating to:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Setup

You will see various entries here on the right hand side. The one we want is
called:

SourcePath

It probably has an entry pointing to your CD-ROM drive, and that is why it
is asking for the XP CD. All we need to do is change it to:

C:\"

I did this when updating to XP SP1 so that rather than an XP CD RTM CD, SFC
would point to the appropriate service pack file. Again if you have an XP
SP1 CD either from MSFT or Slipstreamed, you don't need to do this. I also
did it to run SFC with XP SP2 so that I would point SFC to the service pack
file of the particular build of SP2 that was installed and that would apply
to any build of SP1 or future SP's.

Finally this might also be still another way to restore Windows Update,
although MSFT has not updated the title of this MSKB beyond Windows 98. It
wouldn't be the first time you could pull from a KB to apply to a different
OS.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...ontent=1WINUP:
Windows Update Link on Windows 98 Start Menu Does Not Work


4) Delete and Re-Create the Start Menu Link for Windows Update
To delete and re-create the Start menu link for Windows Update:
1.. Click Start, right-click Windows Update, and then click Delete.
2.. Click Start, point to Settings, and then click Taskbar.
3.. Click the Start Menu Programs tab, click Add, and then click Browse.
4.. Locate the Wupdmgr.exe file, click it, and then click Open. You can
find this file in the X:\Windows folder. If you cannot locate the file, you
may have to reinstall it. For information about how to do so, see the
"Reinstall the Wupdmgr.exe File" section later in this article.
5.. Click Next.
6.. Click the Start Menu folder, and then click Next.
7.. Change the name of the shortcut from "Wupdmgr.exe" to Windows Update,
and then click Finish.
8.. Click Start, and then click Windows Update.
Reinstall the Wupdmgr.exe File
If you still cannot view the Windows Update Web site, the Wupdmgr.exe file
may be missing or corrupted. To reinstall the Wupdmgr.exe file, follow these
steps:
1.. Insert the Windows 98 CD into the CD-ROM drive.
2.. If a list of Windows 98 options appears automatically, select Browse
this CD. If this list does not appear, double-click the My Computer icon,
and then double-click your CD-ROM drive to display the list of options.
3.. Double-click the Win98 folder.
4.. Locate the Win98_43.cab file, and then double-click it.
5.. Right-click the Wupdmgr.exe file, and then click Extract.
6.. When prompted to select the location where you want to save this file,
select the Windows folder, and then click OK.
7.. Click Start, and then click Windows Update.
hth,

Chad Harris

__________________________________________________ ____________________



"Mille" wrote in message
...
I've accedently installed Windows Update v5 on my
computer, and the old v4 thingy got overwritten.
XP told me directly that some system files have been
overwritten and I needed give it the XPSP1 cd to "undo".

But still, after it once again replaced the files with the
correct ones, some must be missing.
When trying to update, it goes to the v5-url.
When typing in the url by hand, it downloads the updates,
but they fail to install.

So my question is - is there a way to reinstall Windows
Update V4 (for XP SP1, if it mathers)?

Or does anyone have any other ideas on how to fix this?

Thanks.



 




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