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Windows 10 1809
A chronic spammer...
-- "Mr. Man-wai Chang" toylet.toylet gmail.com wrote: Path: eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!toylet.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Mr. Man-wai Chang" toylet.toylet gmail.com Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10 Subject: Windows 10 1809 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 15:54:12 +0800 Organization: Hung Hom, Kowloon, Hong Kong Lines: 19 Message-ID: pq45f6$1ml$1 toylet.eternal-september.org References: g2jt6pF8cd1U1 mid.individual.net pq2hjb$hor$1 dont-email.me Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 07:54:14 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: toylet.eternal-september.org; posting-host="f312960bf7cf4c5d7ff862937844cd07"; logging-data="1749"; mail-complaints-to="abuse eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/lu9rw1Nz9Tf64KdYxdk4z" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 Cancel-Lock: sha1:Lc6IoBVaq7nJuDh/m5zjb2zU7Gg= In-Reply-To: pq2hjb$hor$1 dont-email.me Content-Language: en-US Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org alt.comp.os.windows-10:79869 On 10/16/2018 1:08 AM, Chris wrote: Bill Bradshaw bradshaw gci.net wrote: With all the reported problems has Microsoft stopped pushing out the 1809 update? None of the computers have been updated from 1803 to 1809. Yes and no. They've pulled the original release and issued a new one to "insiders". Once it gets the ok from insiders it'll be released to the rest of us. Does this apply to the Win 10 1809 ISO downloadable by non-insider users? -- ~ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 „÷ † YŠý÷! „÷ Š¸ ‚ùT! „÷ Šüð‚O½! „÷ ' Ï! „÷ '%"„§Ï! „÷ '%"†S®! „÷ ŠÎ¦'©§! „÷ 'ñ'‡¾z! Š®Š Ÿ'.©‡ôo' ï (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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Windows 10 1809
Damn, man, don't you have the brains to tell everyone
whether or not you are an "Insider"... -- critcher dennis_gangenoreply yahoo.co.uk wrote: Path: eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: critcher dennis_gangenoreply yahoo.co.uk Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10 Subject: Windows 10 1809 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 19:38:23 +0100 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 11 Message-ID: pq5b6s$1gjn$1 gioia.aioe.org References: g2jt6pF8cd1U1 mid.individual.net pq2hjb$hor$1 dont-email.me NNTP-Posting-Host: BHGyQZE2wykd4zXS7b1c5Q.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 Content-Language: en-GB X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.3 Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org alt.comp.os.windows-10:79920 On 15/10/2018 18:08, Chris wrote: Bill Bradshaw bradshaw gci.net wrote: With all the reported problems has Microsoft stopped pushing out the 1809 update? None of the computers have been updated from 1803 to 1809. Yes and no. They've pulled the original release and issued a new one to "insiders". Once it gets the ok from insiders it'll be released to the rest of us. https://www.computerworld.com/articl...tribution.html I've been on 1809 since 3/10/2018 nothing lost from drives c,d or e |
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Windows 10 1809
Paul wrote:
Bill Bradshaw wrote: With all the reported problems has Microsoft stopped pushing out the 1809 update? None of the computers have been updated from 1803 to 1809. And this is a good thing. Relax. I'm with the original poster. Would be easier to relax if any idiot who talks about 1809 said whether or not he is an "Insider". I have seen talk about 1809 thrown out as if everybody was getting it. It's not spectacular if it's only given to Insiders. But I guess people like to draw attention to their posts. |
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Windows 10 1809
John Doe wrote:
Damn, man, don't you have the brains to tell everyone whether or not you are an "Insider"... You had the option, on release day, to download the DVD for 1809 and use it. I have the 32 bit and 64 bit DVDs and used the 64 bit one. It's the Windows Update method which might be triggered by your Insider participation. But a machine here which received 1809 when I wasn't expecting it, via Windows Update, that machine is not associated with Insider, and neither has an MSA ever been used on the machine. It suggests if you ever (remotely) took part in the Insider program, any machine in your "flock" could be picked for an update. They have plenty of sneaky ways of associating the MSA I used on the other machine, with the equipment in my "flock". If I leave a 17134 install sitting idle today, it's safe and won't get 17763. But that could change anytime. Paul |
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Windows 10 1809
John Doe wrote:
"Bill Bradshaw" wrote: With all the reported problems has Microsoft stopped pushing out the 1809 update? None of the computers have been updated from 1803 to 1809. None of "the computers"? I'm still on 1803, I don't know what the posts about 1809 are about. At the moment, you can use Heidoc to generate a download URL for the old version of 1809. That's if you want to test for the "data loss" problem. The materials are still accessible. That's 17763.1, which will update itself to 17763.55 with the recent Patch Tuesday. Data loss can happen, if you or a program you use, moved a Junction Point to a new value, in the home directory, leaving an orphan directory behind with no pointer to it. The folder could still have files. And Microsoft decided it would be cool to delete that folder (while 1809 installs). That's where the data loss comes from. Apparently, the usage of OneDrive can change a Junction Point and trigger the behavior (if you've been using OneDrive for quite some time and the Junction Point was changed a while back). At the current time, the Insider program offers 17xxx.yy (new version of 1809 without data loss feature) if you set your Insider program disk to "Slow" ring. I just flipped mine to see what would happen. https://i.postimg.cc/y8LmHvB0/slow-ring.gif Once that install is finished, it will update itself to 17763.104 using another patch. (The Release people shouldn't see that yet.) If you have your Insider set to "Fast" ring, you'll be getting 18252. That's what mine said before I changed the setting to "Slow". Paul |
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Windows 10 1809
John Doe wrote:
Paul wrote: Bill Bradshaw wrote: With all the reported problems has Microsoft stopped pushing out the 1809 update? None of the computers have been updated from 1803 to 1809. And this is a good thing. Relax. I'm with the original poster. Would be easier to relax if any idiot who talks about 1809 said whether or not he is an "Insider". I have seen talk about 1809 thrown out as if everybody was getting it. It's not spectacular if it's only given to Insiders. But I guess people like to draw attention to their posts. That's the confusion. Originally (2nd Oct) it was released to everyone, then pulled (06/10) and since 11/10 is re-released only to the insider track. |
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Windows 10 1809
Chris wrote:
John Doe wrote: Paul wrote: Bill Bradshaw wrote: With all the reported problems has Microsoft stopped pushing out the 1809 update? None of the computers have been updated from 1803 to 1809. And this is a good thing. Relax. I'm with the original poster. Would be easier to relax if any idiot who talks about 1809 said whether or not he is an "Insider". I have seen talk about 1809 thrown out as if everybody was getting it. It's not spectacular if it's only given to Insiders. But I guess people like to draw attention to their posts. That's the confusion. Originally (2nd Oct) it was released to everyone, then pulled (06/10) and since 11/10 is re-released only to the insider track. This is an Insider disk on the Slow Ring. Install complete. Patched to date. And that would be the candidate "new" 1809 versus the data loss version of 1809. https://i.postimg.cc/nVW7w8hB/slow-ring-complete.gif Paul |
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Windows 10 1809
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 17:05:46 -0400, Paul wrote:
Chris wrote: heavy snipping That's the confusion. Originally (2nd Oct) it was released to everyone, then pulled (06/10) and since 11/10 is re-released only to the insider track. This is an Insider disk on the Slow Ring. Install complete. Patched to date. And that would be the candidate "new" 1809 versus the data loss version of 1809. https://i.postimg.cc/nVW7w8hB/slow-ring-complete.gif Paul So when the previous beta tests failed to stop premature release (although apparently beta testers did spot the problem), they're just repeating the exercise? What's to prevent the same premature release to the rest-of-the-world? |
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Windows 10 1809
mechanic wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 17:05:46 -0400, Paul wrote: Chris wrote: heavy snipping That's the confusion. Originally (2nd Oct) it was released to everyone, then pulled (06/10) and since 11/10 is re-released only to the insider track. This is an Insider disk on the Slow Ring. Install complete. Patched to date. And that would be the candidate "new" 1809 versus the data loss version of 1809. https://i.postimg.cc/nVW7w8hB/slow-ring-complete.gif Paul So when the previous beta tests failed to stop premature release (although apparently beta testers did spot the problem), they're just repeating the exercise? What's to prevent the same premature release to the rest-of-the-world? They were suppose to add a field to Hub entries indicating severity. To help single postings of trouble get the visibility they need. As for the testing itself, surely you're not expecting Insider testing to catch things? Paul |
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Windows 10 1809
mechanic wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 17:05:46 -0400, Paul wrote: Chris wrote: heavy snipping That's the confusion. Originally (2nd Oct) it was released to everyone, then pulled (06/10) and since 11/10 is re-released only to the insider track. This is an Insider disk on the Slow Ring. Install complete. Patched to date. And that would be the candidate "new" 1809 versus the data loss version of 1809. https://i.postimg.cc/nVW7w8hB/slow-ring-complete.gif Paul So when the previous beta tests failed to stop premature release (although apparently beta testers did spot the problem), they're just repeating the exercise? What's to prevent the same premature release to the rest-of-the-world? Apparently this problem raised an issue in their reporting system, which they have also fixed. |
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Windows 10 1809
On 10/15/18 09:22, Bill Bradshaw wrote:
With all the reported problems has Microsoft stopped pushing out the 1809 update? None of the computers have been updated from 1803 to 1809. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/1...ows_10_crisis/ that kinda says it all -- (aka 'Bombastic Bob' in case you wondered) 'Feeling with my fingers, and thinking with my brain' - me 'your story is so touching, but it sounds just like a lie' "Straighten up and fly right" |
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Windows 10 1809
On 10/15/18 12:24, Neil wrote:
On 10/15/2018 12:22 PM, Bill Bradshaw wrote: With all the reported problems has Microsoft stopped pushing out the 1809 update? None of the computers have been updated from 1803 to 1809. It was never pushed, AFAIK. no, just shoved up everyones ASS, as usual [without lubrication]. Forced updates *SUCK*. WORST! IDEA! EVAR! [2nd worst was putting ADVERTISEMENT and SLURP into the OS, 3rd worst was 2D FLATSO FLUGLY, ...] As for the windows update ****ups: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/1...ows_10_crisis/ -- (aka 'Bombastic Bob' in case you wondered) 'Feeling with my fingers, and thinking with my brain' - me 'your story is so touching, but it sounds just like a lie' "Straighten up and fly right" |
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Windows 10 1809
On 10/24/2018 2:46 AM, Big Bad Bob wrote:
On 10/15/18 12:24, Neil wrote: On 10/15/2018 12:22 PM, Bill Bradshaw wrote: With all the reported problems has Microsoft stopped pushing out the 1809 update?Â* None of the computers have been updated from 1803 to 1809. It was never pushed, AFAIK. no, just shoved up everyones ASS, as usual [without lubrication]. Forced updates *SUCK*.Â* WORST! IDEA! EVAR! [2nd worst was putting ADVERTISEMENT and SLURP into the OS, 3rd worst was 2D FLATSO FLUGLY, ...] AFAIK, it STILL hasn't been pushed. All of my Win10 machines are still on 1803. I suspect that those running 1809 are either voluntarily or unwittingly involved in the insider program. -- best regards, Neil |
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Windows 10 1809
On 10/24/2018 5:49 AM, Neil wrote:
On 10/24/2018 2:46 AM, Big Bad Bob wrote: On 10/15/18 12:24, Neil wrote: On 10/15/2018 12:22 PM, Bill Bradshaw wrote: With all the reported problems has Microsoft stopped pushing out the 1809 update?Â* None of the computers have been updated from 1803 to 1809. It was never pushed, AFAIK. no, just shoved up everyones ASS, as usual [without lubrication]. Forced updates *SUCK*.Â* WORST! IDEA! EVAR! [2nd worst was putting ADVERTISEMENT and SLURP into the OS, 3rd worst was 2D FLATSO FLUGLY, ...] AFAIK, it STILL hasn't been pushed. All of my Win10 machines are still on 1803. I suspect that those running 1809 are either voluntarily or unwittingly involved in the insider program. Hey guys, I received the 1809 thru normal Windows updates on Oct 3rd. Actually, I was surprised when both my main workstation and my laptop came up with a "Want to schedule a restart today?". I looked around and sure enough it had installed on both machines (unknown to me). So I did a restart on each and everything came up just fine. A couple of days later, I heard all the bru-ha about it being pulled. So far I have seen no problems and my Android Studio workbench seems to be speedier during compiles. So far, I'm pleased. Dick |
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Windows 10 1809
Dick wrote:
On 10/24/2018 5:49 AM, Neil wrote: On 10/24/2018 2:46 AM, Big Bad Bob wrote: On 10/15/18 12:24, Neil wrote: On 10/15/2018 12:22 PM, Bill Bradshaw wrote: With all the reported problems has Microsoft stopped pushing out the 1809 update?Â* None of the computers have been updated from 1803 to 1809. It was never pushed, AFAIK. no, just shoved up everyones ASS, as usual [without lubrication]. Forced updates *SUCK*.Â* WORST! IDEA! EVAR! [2nd worst was putting ADVERTISEMENT and SLURP into the OS, 3rd worst was 2D FLATSO FLUGLY, ...] AFAIK, it STILL hasn't been pushed. All of my Win10 machines are still on 1803. I suspect that those running 1809 are either voluntarily or unwittingly involved in the insider program. Hey guys, I received the 1809 thru normal Windows updates on Oct 3rd. Actually, I was surprised when both my main workstation and my laptop came up with a "Want to schedule a restart today?".Â* I looked around and sure enough it had installed on both machines (unknown to me). So I did a restart on each and everything came up just fine. A couple of days later, I heard all the bru-ha about it being pulled. So far I have seen no problems and my Android Studio workbench seems to be speedier during compiles.Â* So far, I'm pleased. Dick The problem occurred for those who moved their default Downloads, Documents, Videos, etc. folders to another drive or partition. 1809 deleted everything in those folders. You obviously didn't do that. |
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