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Gordon

As Ron pointed out, you may be seeing unread messages only.. you might want
to take a look at your OE settings..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user

http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm





"Gordon" wrote in message
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Mike Hall (MS-MVP) wrote:
Gordon

Trudi is replying in the same thread as she has been for four exchanges,
and I know that because I am the other party..

We are both presently in microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers, and I am
using OE to read the newsgroups..


Odd. That was the first post I saw of this thread........also using OE.
Funnily, Thunderbird showed the whole thing.......

Mike Hall (MS-MVP) wrote:
|| Gordon
||
|| As Ron pointed out, you may be seeing unread messages only.. you
|| might want to take a look at your OE settings..
||

I am....that's why I looked at it in Thunderbird as well. Unfortunately, OE
doesn't seem to have the same function as TBird has - "View Threads with
Unread" so that you see the whole thread with an unread post in it, and not
just ALL messages. The latter option in a large-traffic group is untenable!
Unless there's a custom view I haven't found yet?

--
Gordon Burgess-Parker
Interim Systems and Management Accounting
www.gbpcomputing.co.uk

Wind your neck in Gordon. If you cannot follow a simple thread, get out and
go somewhere else. Just because you only want to see unread messages,
doesn't mean others are like you. If you are too damn lazy to read the
previous messages, that's your problem. STFU!!!!!!!!!

"Gordon" wrote in message

Trudibabe wrote:
Tried that and when I went to open it it said there was a virus as
it had a hidden ext...whetever that means....Im not doing very
well am I?

Please QUOTE the post you are replying to. This is not a chat room,
and these posts are replicated over many thousands of severs
worldwide. Quoting ensures that people can pick up on the gist of the
thread without necessarily seeing all the posts.

http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html

Thank you.

Well said Mike. I completely agree.

"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message

Ron

I am left speechless by your remarks.. I am the only person who has
taken the time to reply to the OP.. there is NO question of having a
private session with Trudi.. replies to questions should remain
public in the best interests of everybody using newsgroups.. the only
time I ever entertain e-mail is if the OP directly e-mails me first..

If some are choosing the option of only seeing unread messages, then
they should deal with it, and understand that they may well
misinterpret what they are seeing..

In the meantime, if it is ok with everybody here, I will continue to
try to help the OP is the same way as I do for everybody else..


"Ron Bogart" wrote in message
...
In ,
Mike Hall (MS-MVP) did some thinking
and came up with these words:
Gordon

Trudi is replying in the same thread as she has been for four
exchanges, and I know that because I am the other party..

We are both presently in microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers, and
I am using OE to read the newsgroups..


"Gordon" wrote in message
...
Trudibabe wrote:
Tried that and when I went to open it it said there was a
virus as it had a hidden ext...whetever that means....Im
not doing very well am I?

Please QUOTE the post you are replying to. This is not a chat
room, and these posts are replicated over many thousands of
severs worldwide. Quoting ensures that people can pick up on
the gist of the thread without necessarily seeing all the posts.

http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html

Thank you.

--
Gordon Burgess-Parker
Interim Systems and Management Accounting
www.gbpcomputing.co.uk

That's all nice Mike, but if people who are using the option of only
displaying unread messages, coming in and finding just her message
without quoting anything of what she is replying to - it is a
meaningless thread. Should you wish to work with Trudi off line
since it is only between the two of you - email is a good
alternative. :-) --
Ron Bogart {} ô¿ô¬
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Lovin life on Mercer Island 8^)
"Life is what happens while we are making other plans."
In memory of a true friend, MVP Alex Nichol (1935-2005)

Reply inline

In ,
Mike Hall (MS-MVP) did some thinking and came
up with these words:
Ron

I am left speechless by your remarks.. I am the only person who has
taken the time to reply to the OP.. there is NO question of having a
private session with Trudi.. replies to questions should remain
public in the best interests of everybody using newsgroups.. the only
time I ever entertain e-mail is if the OP directly e-mails me first..
I am sorry this leaves you speechless - it wasn't meant to be rude or
antagonistic. My comments related to private/public were in answer to your
earlier reply "Trudi is replying in the same thread as she has been for four
exchanges, and I know that because I am the other party.." Sounded to me
like it doesn't matter if others couldn't see all the thread - it was
between you and her.

If some are choosing the option of only seeing unread messages, then
they should deal with it, and understand that they may well
misinterpret what they are seeing..
Even in today's world - hard drive space can be rather limited, so clearing
out messages that are no longer needed is a required function. Some also
don't have the luxury of spending vast amounts of time in the groups and are
either searching for another post of an issue they are having as well, or
trying to assist in their own little way. Sorry if we disagree on this - it
doesn't make my way perfect either. :-)

One question I would pose - do you list your messages by date? Ascending or
Descending? I've always used Ascending as it lets me see the older posts
before the newest - but have ran into more users who look only at newest
posts first - which also runs into the issue with unquoted replies.


In the meantime, if it is ok with everybody here, I will continue to
try to help the OP is the same way as I do for everybody else..
Please continue - seems this was taken way too confrontational to begin
with.


"Ron Bogart" wrote in message
...
In ,
Mike Hall (MS-MVP) did some thinking
and came up with these words:
Gordon

Trudi is replying in the same thread as she has been for four
exchanges, and I know that because I am the other party..
We are both presently in microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers, and I
am using OE to read the newsgroups..

"Gordon" wrote in message
...
Trudibabe wrote:
Tried that and when I went to open it it said there was a virus
as it had a hidden ext...whetever that means....Im not doing very
well am I?

Please QUOTE the post you are replying to. This is not a chat room,
and these posts are replicated over many thousands of severs
worldwide. Quoting ensures that people can pick up on the gist of
the thread without necessarily seeing all the posts.

http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html

Thank you.

--
Gordon Burgess-Parker
Interim Systems and Management Accounting
www.gbpcomputing.co.uk

That's all nice Mike, but if people who are using the option of only
displaying unread messages, coming in and finding just her message
without quoting anything of what she is replying to - it is a
meaningless thread. Should you wish to work with Trudi off line
since it is only between the two of you - email is a good
alternative. :-) --
Ron Bogart {} ô¿ô¬

--
Ron Bogart {} ô¿ô¬
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Lovin life on Mercer Island 8^)
"Life is what happens while we are making other plans."
In memory of a true friend, MVP Alex Nichol (1935-2005)

Ron

I use the OE newsgroup solution offered by Outlook 2003.. I have it set to
see new posts first, and I flag all that I answer or where there is a desire
to see the outcome.. I clear all messages older than 5 days.. I have found
that after a 5 day period, many posts essentially die, and some within a 24
hour period..

It would drive me crazy if I had to scroll through untold amounts of old
posts before I found one of interest or that hadn't been done to death
already.. when I exit a newsgroup for another, all messages appear 'as read'
but as I flag important ones, this does not affect me finding them at some
later point in time..

There are many posts where only one person answers the call, and I do not
consider it ok to take it private because of that.. the essence of public
newsgroups is that questions and answers/solutions are visible to anybody..

All of the above I can control, and it works well for me..

However, I do not have control over how another user chooses to operate.. if
some choose to have huge lists of messages, mostly silent, then so be it..
if a user chooses to mark all 'read' messages to be hidden, then so be it..
the obvious problem with that is that they may only see part of the
threads.. not my problem..

I do have some people in a 'killfile' (message rule), but only because I do
not choose to see or reply to their output.. if I considered those people to
have anything decent to say, they would not be included in the file..

When looking at a problem, I read through every thread to get a grasp of
what has already been said and why.. it is so easy to misinterpret when
coming in half way.. it is easy enough to do that from the start given the
way that some people explain themselves.. :-)

This is the word..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user

http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm





"Ron Bogart" wrote in message
...
Reply inline

In ,
Mike Hall (MS-MVP) did some thinking and
came up with these words:
Ron

I am left speechless by your remarks.. I am the only person who has
taken the time to reply to the OP.. there is NO question of having a
private session with Trudi.. replies to questions should remain
public in the best interests of everybody using newsgroups.. the only
time I ever entertain e-mail is if the OP directly e-mails me first..
I am sorry this leaves you speechless - it wasn't meant to be rude or
antagonistic. My comments related to private/public were in answer to
your earlier reply "Trudi is replying in the same thread as she has been
for four exchanges, and I know that because I am the other party.."
Sounded to me like it doesn't matter if others couldn't see all the
thread - it was between you and her.

If some are choosing the option of only seeing unread messages, then
they should deal with it, and understand that they may well
misinterpret what they are seeing..
Even in today's world - hard drive space can be rather limited, so
clearing out messages that are no longer needed is a required function.
Some also don't have the luxury of spending vast amounts of time in the
groups and are either searching for another post of an issue they are
having as well, or trying to assist in their own little way. Sorry if we
disagree on this - it doesn't make my way perfect either. :-)

One question I would pose - do you list your messages by date? Ascending
or Descending? I've always used Ascending as it lets me see the older
posts before the newest - but have ran into more users who look only at
newest posts first - which also runs into the issue with unquoted replies.


In the meantime, if it is ok with everybody here, I will continue to
try to help the OP is the same way as I do for everybody else..
Please continue - seems this was taken way too confrontational to begin
with.


"Ron Bogart" wrote in message
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