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How to use Paint?
I have Win XP SP3 and the version of the Paint that comes with it (Programs
Accessories). Is this the correct NG to ask questions about Paint? If not, what then? My question.... I use ctrl-PrintScreen to capture the display. Then I run Paint and paste the image. To copy a subset of the image, I use the box Select tool to outline the area, then press ctrl-C and ctrl-V. At that point, I have trouble "selecting" the two different objects: the original PrintScreen image and the subset I just pasted. By "select", I do not mean the box Select tool. I mean outlining the object so that I can move, resize and delete it. How do I get into that kind of selection mode again? How do I "select" each object individually? Paint Help says: "To turn off the selection box, click outside the box". I have tried clicking all over, to no avail. |
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How to use Paint?
"Joe User" joeu2004 wrote in message ... I have Win XP SP3 and the version of the Paint that comes with it (Programs Accessories). Is this the correct NG to ask questions about Paint? If not, what then? My question.... I use ctrl-PrintScreen to capture the display. Then I run Paint and paste the image. To copy a subset of the image, I use the box Select tool to outline the area, then press ctrl-C and ctrl-V. At that point, I have trouble "selecting" the two different objects: the original PrintScreen image and the subset I just pasted. By "select", I do not mean the box Select tool. I mean outlining the object so that I can move, resize and delete it. How do I get into that kind of selection mode again? How do I "select" each object individually? Paint Help says: "To turn off the selection box, click outside the box". I have tried clicking all over, to no avail. Try this freeware tool for screen shots. You can easily select an area on the screen to capture with no messing around. PrintKey: http://www.freewareweb.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?ID=292 -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP [Mail] Imperial Beach, CA |
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How to use Paint?
Thanks for the pointers so far. I'll follow through in time.
I am beginning to think that the Paint accessory that comes with Win XP (SP3) is simply brain-dead. Would that be an unfair assessment? I have used it in the past, but apparently only for the most rudimentary tasks. Well, I think my current task is rudimentary. Anyway, I do remember that it was always a struggle; I felt like I was fighting the tool. ----- original message ------ "Joe User" joeu2004 wrote in message ... I have Win XP SP3 and the version of the Paint that comes with it (Programs Accessories). Is this the correct NG to ask questions about Paint? If not, what then? My question.... I use ctrl-PrintScreen to capture the display. Then I run Paint and paste the image. To copy a subset of the image, I use the box Select tool to outline the area, then press ctrl-C and ctrl-V. At that point, I have trouble "selecting" the two different objects: the original PrintScreen image and the subset I just pasted. By "select", I do not mean the box Select tool. I mean outlining the object so that I can move, resize and delete it. How do I get into that kind of selection mode again? How do I "select" each object individually? Paint Help says: "To turn off the selection box, click outside the box". I have tried clicking all over, to no avail. |
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How to use Paint?
On 3/12/2010 10:37 AM, Joe User wrote:
Thanks for the pointers so far. I'll follow through in time. I am beginning to think that the Paint accessory that comes with Win XP (SP3) is simply brain-dead. Would that be an unfair assessment? Paint wasn't ever meant to be even a moderately powerful graphics editor. It's more of a demostrator of how to use a mouse with some of the operating system's built in graphic capabilities. I have used it in the past, but apparently only for the most rudimentary tasks. Well, I think my current task is rudimentary. Anyway, I do remember that it was always a struggle; I felt like I was fighting the tool. Also remember that there are object oriented vs. bitmap oriented images/graphics. It's the object oriented type that allows various shapes like lines, circles and rectangles to be easily selected and manipulated. The object oriented type is sometimes reffered to as "vector graphics". With a bitmap oriented application like Paint the image is represented as separate values for each pixel, very much like a dark panel with an array of holes for translucent colored pegs (remember a product called "Light Bright"?). A bitmap oriented program translates the drawing tools into that grid format as soon as you finish drawing the shape (ussually when you release the mouse button) and doesn't have any way of translating the array of pixels back into the definition of a shape. Some of the bitmap oriented programs permit the user to separate bitmaps into multiple layers. This has an effect similar to a stack of clear plastic sheets with different images painted on each sheet. Drawing an image on its own layer simplifies isolating that group of pixels for subsequent editing. The Paint program that comes with many versions of Windows wasn't designed to be that powerful. A multiple layer bitmap might also require a lot of memory and/or hard disk storage. A bitmap with a wide variety of colors (like a photo or shaded drawing) is often best stored in a format with individual data for each pixel and allowance for a WIDE variety of colors (like a jpeg/.jpg). An image with a limited number of colors and large areas of the same color, like a newspaper editorial cartoon or smiley face, will take a MUCH smaller amount of storage as a lossless compressed format like a Graphics Interchange File (.gif). That might make a significat differene if your web site host limits your storage space or you want guests at your site to see your images quickly. ----- original message ------ "Joe User" joeu2004 wrote in message ... I have Win XP SP3 and the version of the Paint that comes with it (Programs Accessories). Is this the correct NG to ask questions about Paint? If not, what then? My question.... I use ctrl-PrintScreen to capture the display. Then I run Paint and paste the image. To copy a subset of the image, I use the box Select tool to outline the area, then press ctrl-C and ctrl-V. At that point, I have trouble "selecting" the two different objects: the original PrintScreen image and the subset I just pasted. By "select", I do not mean the box Select tool. I mean outlining the object so that I can move, resize and delete it. How do I get into that kind of selection mode again? How do I "select" each object individually? Paint Help says: "To turn off the selection box, click outside the box". I have tried clicking all over, to no avail. |
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How to use Paint?
On 3/12/2010 6:54 AM, Bruce Hagen wrote:
"Joe User" joeu2004 wrote in message ... I have Win XP SP3 and the version of the Paint that comes with it (Programs Accessories). Is this the correct NG to ask questions about Paint? If not, what then? My question.... I use ctrl-PrintScreen to capture the display. Then I run Paint and paste the image. To copy a subset of the image, I use the box Select tool to outline the area, then press ctrl-C and ctrl-V. At that point, I have trouble "selecting" the two different objects: the original PrintScreen image and the subset I just pasted. By "select", I do not mean the box Select tool. I mean outlining the object so that I can move, resize and delete it. How do I get into that kind of selection mode again? How do I "select" each object individually? Paint Help says: "To turn off the selection box, click outside the box". I have tried clicking all over, to no avail. Try this freeware tool for screen shots. You can easily select an area on the screen to capture with no messing around. PrintKey: http://www.freewareweb.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?ID=292 I've been using PrintKey for several years with good results. You can google for other free screen capture programs. Also consider IrfanView, another free graphics program, not including drawing features, with various screen capture options. Bill |
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