So if you build your own rig, what to do?

I built my own desktop computer from scratch some years ago and recently
upgraded from WinXP to Win7.

If I were to upgrade to Win10, what would happen if at a later date want
to replace/upgrade either MoBo, CPU/GPU or HDD?

In the last episode of , Mel Bourne
said:

I built my own desktop computer from scratch some years ago and recently
upgraded from WinXP to Win7.

If I were to upgrade to Win10, what would happen if at a later date want
to replace/upgrade either MoBo, CPU/GPU or HDD?

You'd probably install the new components, and install the drivers?

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DevilsPGD wrote:
In the last episode of , Mel Bourne
said:

I built my own desktop computer from scratch some years ago and recently
upgraded from WinXP to Win7.

If I were to upgrade to Win10, what would happen if at a later date want
to replace/upgrade either MoBo, CPU/GPU or HDD?

You'd probably install the new components, and install the drivers?


I think there was an implied question in there, like maybe:

"What if the OS needs to be activated again ? What happens ?"

"Does the OS change from a Genuine to Non-Genuine version
and carry on running as before ?"

I haven't seen an answer to this.

Paul

On 05/15/2015 06:59 PM, Mel Bourne wrote:
I built my own desktop computer from scratch some years ago and recently
upgraded from WinXP to Win7.

If I were to upgrade to Win10, what would happen if at a later date want
to replace/upgrade either MoBo, CPU/GPU or HDD?


Hi Mel,

Usually (watch the weasel word) you would get prompted
to reenter the key. And you may have to do it manually
over the phone (tons of fun).

If you have a working w7, is there some particular reason
you would want to upgrade to SOF (Son-of Frankenstein, a.k.a.
Windows Nein, oops, Windows 10)? W7 is a lot easier to
use.

Any way, one way or the other, you would be able to get yourself
up and working. It may require a call to M$.

-T

Mel Bourne wrote:
I built my own desktop computer from scratch some years ago and recently
upgraded from WinXP to Win7.

If I were to upgrade to Win10, what would happen if at a later date want
to replace/upgrade either MoBo, CPU/GPU or HDD?


It might be premature to get a valid answer on 'what would happen'

An upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10 will be free and keep it updated
for the supported lifetime of the device (upon which Win10 upgrade was
installed).

The unknown at this time is how MSFT will define the 'supported lifetime
of the device' if the device ceases to function and major components
require replacement.

The other piece of that puzzle is what parameters (MSFT/OEM) will use to
determine that a device's life will end. Support for said device may
also not mean in perpetuity for all replaceable components.

More information, hopefully, will be available once Windows 10 is RTM
(Released to Manufacturing) and reaches GA (General Availability.

What, imo, seems obvious...all device lifetimes are finite.

--
...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

On Sat, 16 May 2015 07:18:12 -0400, ". . .winston"
wrote:

Mel Bourne wrote:
I built my own desktop computer from scratch some years ago and recently
upgraded from WinXP to Win7.

If I were to upgrade to Win10, what would happen if at a later date want
to replace/upgrade either MoBo, CPU/GPU or HDD?


It might be premature to get a valid answer on 'what would happen'

An upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10 will be free and keep it updated
for the supported lifetime of the device (upon which Win10 upgrade was
installed).

The unknown at this time is how MSFT will define the 'supported lifetime
of the device' if the device ceases to function and major components
require replacement.

The other piece of that puzzle is what parameters (MSFT/OEM) will use to
determine that a device's life will end. Support for said device may
also not mean in perpetuity for all replaceable components.

More information, hopefully, will be available once Windows 10 is RTM
(Released to Manufacturing) and reaches GA (General Availability.

What, imo, seems obvious...all device lifetimes are finite.

That is what is a problem, IMO. If a motherboard with new features
comes out two years after you buy a new PC, and you want to install
it, then the system should be considered supported. But what about
after the chip set is no longer available? How long *after* that
happens is the motherboard no longer supported and thus is deemed "not
supported"? This is a well-known issue in the computer community and
how MS addresses that issue is critical.

On 05/16/2015 08:19 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2015 07:18:12 -0400, ". . .winston"
wrote:

Mel Bourne wrote:
I built my own desktop computer from scratch some years ago and recently
upgraded from WinXP to Win7.

If I were to upgrade to Win10, what would happen if at a later date want
to replace/upgrade either MoBo, CPU/GPU or HDD?


It might be premature to get a valid answer on 'what would happen'

An upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10 will be free and keep it updated
for the supported lifetime of the device (upon which Win10 upgrade was
installed).

The unknown at this time is how MSFT will define the 'supported lifetime
of the device' if the device ceases to function and major components
require replacement.

The other piece of that puzzle is what parameters (MSFT/OEM) will use to
determine that a device's life will end. Support for said device may
also not mean in perpetuity for all replaceable components.

More information, hopefully, will be available once Windows 10 is RTM
(Released to Manufacturing) and reaches GA (General Availability.

What, imo, seems obvious...all device lifetimes are finite.

That is what is a problem, IMO. If a motherboard with new features
comes out two years after you buy a new PC, and you want to install
it, then the system should be considered supported. But what about
after the chip set is no longer available? How long *after* that
happens is the motherboard no longer supported and thus is deemed "not
supported"? This is a well-known issue in the computer community and
how MS addresses that issue is critical.

My opinion and only mine the way I read it is they are going to give an
OEM version as an upgrade for insiders etc.The way they said as long as
it is on that device.So if that device is changed to much I figure you
will have to buy a new version of windows 10. But then again maybe that
is not want they mean.If it was really a free upgrade you would think
it would be a full version.

Dino wrote:
On 05/16/2015 08:19 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2015 07:18:12 -0400, ". . .winston"
wrote:

Mel Bourne wrote:
I built my own desktop computer from scratch some years ago and
recently
upgraded from WinXP to Win7.

If I were to upgrade to Win10, what would happen if at a later date
want
to replace/upgrade either MoBo, CPU/GPU or HDD?


It might be premature to get a valid answer on 'what would happen'

An upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10 will be free and keep it updated
for the supported lifetime of the device (upon which Win10 upgrade was
installed).

The unknown at this time is how MSFT will define the 'supported lifetime
of the device' if the device ceases to function and major components
require replacement.

The other piece of that puzzle is what parameters (MSFT/OEM) will use to
determine that a device's life will end. Support for said device may
also not mean in perpetuity for all replaceable components.

More information, hopefully, will be available once Windows 10 is RTM
(Released to Manufacturing) and reaches GA (General Availability.

What, imo, seems obvious...all device lifetimes are finite.

That is what is a problem, IMO. If a motherboard with new features
comes out two years after you buy a new PC, and you want to install
it, then the system should be considered supported. But what about
after the chip set is no longer available? How long *after* that
happens is the motherboard no longer supported and thus is deemed "not
supported"? This is a well-known issue in the computer community and
how MS addresses that issue is critical.

My opinion and only mine the way I read it is they are going to give an
OEM version as an upgrade for insiders etc.The way they said as long as
it is on that device.So if that device is changed to much I figure you
will have to buy a new version of windows 10. But then again maybe that
is not want they mean.If it was really a free upgrade you would think
it would be a full version.

All versions of Windows since 8.1 regardless of how one moves to a later
o/s classified as full versions. The last upgrade-wear available in
download or media was 8.0.

How did (or could you even) arrive that Insiders would receive OEM
versions. What benefit could that possibly have to MSFT ?



--
...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

.. . .winston wrote:
Dino wrote:
On 05/16/2015 08:19 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2015 07:18:12 -0400, ". . .winston"
wrote:

Mel Bourne wrote:
I built my own desktop computer from scratch some years ago and
recently
upgraded from WinXP to Win7.

If I were to upgrade to Win10, what would happen if at a later date
want
to replace/upgrade either MoBo, CPU/GPU or HDD?


It might be premature to get a valid answer on 'what would happen'

An upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10 will be free and keep it
updated
for the supported lifetime of the device (upon which Win10 upgrade was
installed).

The unknown at this time is how MSFT will define the 'supported
lifetime
of the device' if the device ceases to function and major components
require replacement.

The other piece of that puzzle is what parameters (MSFT/OEM) will
use to
determine that a device's life will end. Support for said device may
also not mean in perpetuity for all replaceable components.

More information, hopefully, will be available once Windows 10 is RTM
(Released to Manufacturing) and reaches GA (General Availability.

What, imo, seems obvious...all device lifetimes are finite.

That is what is a problem, IMO. If a motherboard with new features
comes out two years after you buy a new PC, and you want to install
it, then the system should be considered supported. But what about
after the chip set is no longer available? How long *after* that
happens is the motherboard no longer supported and thus is deemed "not
supported"? This is a well-known issue in the computer community and
how MS addresses that issue is critical.

My opinion and only mine the way I read it is they are going to give an
OEM version as an upgrade for insiders etc.The way they said as long as
it is on that device.So if that device is changed to much I figure you
will have to buy a new version of windows 10. But then again maybe that
is not want they mean.If it was really a free upgrade you would think
it would be a full version.

All versions of Windows since 8.1 regardless of how one moves to a later
o/s classified as full versions. The last upgrade-wear available in
download or media was 8.0.

How did (or could you even) arrive that Insiders would receive OEM
versions. What benefit could that possibly have to MSFT ?



They said insiders would be upgrading to the RTM edition which the OEMs
would be using on new computers.

Dino wrote:
. . .winston wrote:
Dino wrote:
On 05/16/2015 08:19 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2015 07:18:12 -0400, ". . .winston"
wrote:

Mel Bourne wrote:
I built my own desktop computer from scratch some years ago and
recently
upgraded from WinXP to Win7.

If I were to upgrade to Win10, what would happen if at a later date
want
to replace/upgrade either MoBo, CPU/GPU or HDD?


It might be premature to get a valid answer on 'what would happen'

An upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10 will be free and keep it
updated
for the supported lifetime of the device (upon which Win10 upgrade was
installed).

The unknown at this time is how MSFT will define the 'supported
lifetime
of the device' if the device ceases to function and major components
require replacement.

The other piece of that puzzle is what parameters (MSFT/OEM) will
use to
determine that a device's life will end. Support for said device may
also not mean in perpetuity for all replaceable components.

More information, hopefully, will be available once Windows 10 is RTM
(Released to Manufacturing) and reaches GA (General Availability.

What, imo, seems obvious...all device lifetimes are finite.

That is what is a problem, IMO. If a motherboard with new features
comes out two years after you buy a new PC, and you want to install
it, then the system should be considered supported. But what about
after the chip set is no longer available? How long *after* that
happens is the motherboard no longer supported and thus is deemed "not
supported"? This is a well-known issue in the computer community and
how MS addresses that issue is critical.

My opinion and only mine the way I read it is they are going to give an
OEM version as an upgrade for insiders etc.The way they said as long as
it is on that device.So if that device is changed to much I figure you
will have to buy a new version of windows 10. But then again maybe that
is not want they mean.If it was really a free upgrade you would think
it would be a full version.

All versions of Windows since 8.1 regardless of how one moves to a
later o/s classified as full versions. The last upgrade-wear available
in download or media was 8.0.

How did (or could you even) arrive that Insiders would receive OEM
versions. What benefit could that possibly have to MSFT ?



They said insiders would be upgrading to the RTM edition which the OEMs
would be using on new computers.

?

--
...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

.. . .winston wrote:

Dino wrote:
On 05/16/2015 08:19 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2015 07:18:12 -0400, ". . .winston"
wrote:

Mel Bourne wrote:
I built my own desktop computer from scratch some years ago and
recently
upgraded from WinXP to Win7.

If I were to upgrade to Win10, what would happen if at a later date
want
to replace/upgrade either MoBo, CPU/GPU or HDD?


It might be premature to get a valid answer on 'what would happen'

An upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10 will be free and keep it
updated for the supported lifetime of the device (upon which Win10
upgrade was installed).

The unknown at this time is how MSFT will define the 'supported
lifetime of the device' if the device ceases to function and major
components require replacement.

The other piece of that puzzle is what parameters (MSFT/OEM) will use
to
determine that a device's life will end. Support for said device may
also not mean in perpetuity for all replaceable components.

More information, hopefully, will be available once Windows 10 is RTM
(Released to Manufacturing) and reaches GA (General Availability.

What, imo, seems obvious...all device lifetimes are finite.

That is what is a problem, IMO. If a motherboard with new features
comes out two years after you buy a new PC, and you want to install
it, then the system should be considered supported. But what about
after the chip set is no longer available? How long *after* that
happens is the motherboard no longer supported and thus is deemed "not
supported"? This is a well-known issue in the computer community and
how MS addresses that issue is critical.

My opinion and only mine the way I read it is they are going to give an
OEM version as an upgrade for insiders etc.The way they said as long as
it is on that device.So if that device is changed to much I figure you
will have to buy a new version of windows 10. But then again maybe that
is not want they mean.If it was really a free upgrade you would think
it would be a full version.

All versions of Windows since 8.1 regardless of how one moves to a later
o/s classified as full versions. The last upgrade-wear available in
download or media was 8.0.

I downloaded the win8.1 iso from ms. and done a fresh install with it and
used my win 8 cd key and it worked with out any problems.

How did (or could you even) arrive that Insiders would receive OEM
versions. What benefit could that possibly have to MSFT ?

On Tue, 19 May 2015 09:41:55 +0100, Darklight
wrote:

All versions of Windows since 8.1 regardless of how one moves to a later
o/s classified as full versions. The last upgrade-wear available in
download or media was 8.0.

I downloaded the win8.1 iso from ms. and done a fresh install with it and
used my win 8 cd key and it worked with out any problems.

When I did a clean install of 8.1 on a completlely new blank SSD in a
laptop that had previously run 8.0 from a hard drive, I didn't need to
enter the key at all. It just declared itself to be activated and that
was that.

Rod.