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At Least FIVE Anti-Spyware Programs
Norton has protected me just fine for decades.
Of course I have additional resources as a backup. But I've never had to call on them 'Nuff Said. But See Below... DSH "Ron Martell" wrote in message ... "D. Spencer Hines" wrote: Sounds Sensible. I use Norton. That (Norton) is not sensible. Probably the worst possible choice in terms of performance, stability, reliability, and quality of updates. Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada -- Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006) On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference has never been in bed with a mosquito." Hmmmmmm... I've always preferred women. But for those with "size problems" I can understand why you might prefer mosquitoes. DSH Lux et Veritas et Libertas |
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I use just one - MS antispyware Beta1. For anti-virus I use Nortons/Symantec. You simply don't need anything else except a firm handle over your brain to control the urge to visit those sites that I won't visit! I know UK is going the wrong way to legalize brothels but it should instead make it easier (tax wise) to live in sin! Oh make sure SP2 Windows Firewall is enabled and no exceptions! hth "D. Spencer Hines" wrote: Do you honestly expect folks to install at least FIVE different Anti-Spyware programs, keep them updated, monitor them and constantly tweak each one as required? DSH "Shenan Stanley" wrote in message ... [...] There is no one software that cleans and immunizes you against everything. Antivirus software - you only needed one. Firewall, you only needed one. AntiSpyware - you will need several. I have a list and I recommend you use at least the first five. First - make sure you have NOT installed "Rogue AntiSpyware". There are people out there who created AntiSpyware products that actually install spyware of their own! You need to avoid these: Rogue/Suspect Anti-Spyware Products & Web Sites http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm Also, you can always visit this site.. http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm For more updated information. Install the first five of these: (Install, Run, Update, Scan with..) (If you already have one or more - uninstall them and download the LATEST version from the page given!) Lavasoft AdAware (Free and up) http://www.lavasoft.de/support/download/ (How-to: http://snipurl.com/atdn ) Spybot Search and Destroy (Free!) http://www.safer-networking.net/en/download/index.html (How-to: http://snipurl.com/atdk ) Bazooka Adware and Spyware Scanner (Free!) http://www.kephyr.com/spywarescanner/ (How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate3 ) SpywareBlaster (Free!) http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/sbdownload.html (How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate6 ) IE-SPYAD2 (Free!) https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/ehowes/www/resource.htm (How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate7 ) CWShredder Stand-Alone (Free!) http://www.intermute.com/spysubtract..._download.html Hijack This! (Free!) http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html (Log Analyzer: http://hjt.iamnotageek.com/ ) ToolbarCop (Free!) http://windowsxp.mvps.org/toolbarcop.htm Ccleaner (Free!) http://www.ccleaner.com/ Microsoft AntiSpyware BETA (in testing stages - Free!) http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...ware/software/ (How-to: http://snipurl.com/fqur ) Browser Security Tests (Free Tester) http://www.jasons-toolbox.com/BrowserSecurity/ Popup Tester (Free Tester) http://www.popuptest.com/ The Cleaner (~$49.95 and up) http://www.moosoft.com/ |
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No don't ask her to do that. That will only hasten her death! Too many eggs can be dangerous! "D. Spencer Hines" wrote: Try teaching Grandmother to suck eggs next time. DSH "Alan" wrote in message ... It doesn't really matter what others do, what matters is that *you* protect *your* machine to a level that *you* feel is adequate. If you feel one program is sufficient that is fine. And if someone else thinks they need five that is fine too. Even with ten pieces of software it won't affect your machine. Make *your* own choice. What I have on my machine (and what others have on their machines) doesn't affect your machine. "D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message ... Do you honestly expect folks to install at least FIVE different Anti-Spyware programs, keep them updated, monitor them and constantly tweak each one as required? DSH "Shenan Stanley" wrote in message ... [...] There is no one software that cleans and immunizes you against everything. Antivirus software - you only needed one. Firewall, you only needed one. AntiSpyware - you will need several. I have a list and I recommend you use at least the first five. First - make sure you have NOT installed "Rogue AntiSpyware". There are people out there who created AntiSpyware products that actually install spyware of their own! You need to avoid these: Rogue/Suspect Anti-Spyware Products & Web Sites http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm Also, you can always visit this site.. http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm For more updated information. Install the first five of these: (Install, Run, Update, Scan with..) (If you already have one or more - uninstall them and download the LATEST version from the page given!) Lavasoft AdAware (Free and up) http://www.lavasoft.de/support/download/ (How-to: http://snipurl.com/atdn ) Spybot Search and Destroy (Free!) http://www.safer-networking.net/en/download/index.html (How-to: http://snipurl.com/atdk ) Bazooka Adware and Spyware Scanner (Free!) http://www.kephyr.com/spywarescanner/ (How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate3 ) SpywareBlaster (Free!) http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/sbdownload.html (How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate6 ) IE-SPYAD2 (Free!) https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/ehowes/www/resource.htm (How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate7 ) CWShredder Stand-Alone (Free!) http://www.intermute.com/spysubtract..._download.html Hijack This! (Free!) http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html (Log Analyzer: http://hjt.iamnotageek.com/ ) ToolbarCop (Free!) http://windowsxp.mvps.org/toolbarcop.htm Ccleaner (Free!) http://www.ccleaner.com/ Microsoft AntiSpyware BETA (in testing stages - Free!) http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...ware/software/ (How-to: http://snipurl.com/fqur ) Browser Security Tests (Free Tester) http://www.jasons-toolbox.com/BrowserSecurity/ Popup Tester (Free Tester) http://www.popuptest.com/ The Cleaner (~$49.95 and up) http://www.moosoft.com/ |
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SMART!!!
DSH "ANONYMOUS" wrote in message ... I use just one - MS antispyware Beta1. For anti-virus I use Nortons/Symantec. You simply don't need anything else except a firm handle over your brain to control the urge to visit those sites that I won't visit! I know UK is going the wrong way to legalize brothels but it should instead make it easier (tax wise) to live in sin! Oh make sure SP2 Windows Firewall is enabled and no exceptions! hth "D. Spencer Hines" wrote: Do you honestly expect folks to install at least FIVE different Anti-Spyware programs, keep them updated, monitor them and constantly tweak each one as required? DSH "Shenan Stanley" wrote in message ... [...] There is no one software that cleans and immunizes you against everything. Antivirus software - you only needed one. Firewall, you only needed one. AntiSpyware - you will need several. I have a list and I recommend you use at least the first five. First - make sure you have NOT installed "Rogue AntiSpyware". There are people out there who created AntiSpyware products that actually install spyware of their own! You need to avoid these: Rogue/Suspect Anti-Spyware Products & Web Sites http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm Also, you can always visit this site.. http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm For more updated information. Install the first five of these: (Install, Run, Update, Scan with..) (If you already have one or more - uninstall them and download the LATEST version from the page given!) Lavasoft AdAware (Free and up) http://www.lavasoft.de/support/download/ (How-to: http://snipurl.com/atdn ) Spybot Search and Destroy (Free!) http://www.safer-networking.net/en/download/index.html (How-to: http://snipurl.com/atdk ) Bazooka Adware and Spyware Scanner (Free!) http://www.kephyr.com/spywarescanner/ (How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate3 ) SpywareBlaster (Free!) http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/sbdownload.html (How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate6 ) IE-SPYAD2 (Free!) https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/ehowes/www/resource.htm (How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate7 ) CWShredder Stand-Alone (Free!) http://www.intermute.com/spysubtract..._download.html Hijack This! (Free!) http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html (Log Analyzer: http://hjt.iamnotageek.com/ ) ToolbarCop (Free!) http://windowsxp.mvps.org/toolbarcop.htm Ccleaner (Free!) http://www.ccleaner.com/ Microsoft AntiSpyware BETA (in testing stages - Free!) http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...ware/software/ (How-to: http://snipurl.com/fqur ) Browser Security Tests (Free Tester) http://www.jasons-toolbox.com/BrowserSecurity/ Popup Tester (Free Tester) http://www.popuptest.com/ The Cleaner (~$49.95 and up) http://www.moosoft.com/ |
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D. Spencer Hines wrote:
'Nuff Said. ^^ How it must feel to be a troll out of water.. |
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The answer is not BS a hosts file _will_ slow a system.
Tom [Pepper] Willett wrote: Your answer is BS. It depends on how the host file is used. It can indeed be a viable solution. Tom "Frank" wrote in message ... Hosts files really drag down the performance of a boxen, therefore not a viable solution. Gerry Cornell wrote: What about a Hosts file? "R. McCarty" wrote in message ... Perhaps, personally I load customer's machines with AdAware, Spybot, MS-AntiSpyware (Defender) & several URL's for on-line scans. I've now gone as far as to create a "Security" Toolbar with all these tools on a prominent place on the TaskBar to help customers remember to update and use them regularly. Threats change & evolve constantly - there is no Static type of solution that will keep them at bay. The Internet is a dangerous place to play with no proper protections. "D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message ... Do you honestly expect folks to install at least FIVE different Anti-Spyware programs, keep them updated, monitor them and constantly tweak each one as required? DSH "Shenan Stanley" wrote in message ... [...] There is no one software that cleans and immunizes you against everything. Antivirus software - you only needed one. Firewall, you only needed one. AntiSpyware - you will need several. I have a list and I recommend you use at least the first five. First - make sure you have NOT installed "Rogue AntiSpyware". There are people out there who created AntiSpyware products that actually install spyware of their own! You need to avoid these: Rogue/Suspect Anti-Spyware Products & Web Sites http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm Also, you can always visit this site.. http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm For more updated information. Install the first five of these: (Install, Run, Update, Scan with..) (If you already have one or more - uninstall them and download the LATEST version from the page given!) Lavasoft AdAware (Free and up) http://www.lavasoft.de/support/download/ (How-to: http://snipurl.com/atdn ) Spybot Search and Destroy (Free!) http://www.safer-networking.net/en/download/index.html (How-to: http://snipurl.com/atdk ) Bazooka Adware and Spyware Scanner (Free!) http://www.kephyr.com/spywarescanner/ (How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate3 ) SpywareBlaster (Free!) http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/sbdownload.html (How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate6 ) IE-SPYAD2 (Free!) https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/ehowes/www/resource.htm (How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate7 ) CWShredder Stand-Alone (Free!) http://www.intermute.com/spysubtract..._download.html Hijack This! (Free!) http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html (Log Analyzer: http://hjt.iamnotageek.com/ ) ToolbarCop (Free!) http://windowsxp.mvps.org/toolbarcop.htm Ccleaner (Free!) http://www.ccleaner.com/ Microsoft AntiSpyware BETA (in testing stages - Free!) http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...ware/software/ (How-to: http://snipurl.com/fqur ) Browser Security Tests (Free Tester) http://www.jasons-toolbox.com/BrowserSecurity/ Popup Tester (Free Tester) http://www.popuptest.com/ The Cleaner (~$49.95 and up) http://www.moosoft.com/ |
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Maybe.
I would ask would two or more self updating pay for antispyware programs be adequate. Many AVs have spyware sniffers built-in, does this count? Some have ZA Pro with its own antispyware, would this count as one? If not, why? ............. Jonny "D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message ... Do you honestly expect folks to install at least FIVE different Anti-Spyware programs, keep them updated, monitor them and constantly tweak each one as required? DSH "Shenan Stanley" wrote in message ... [...] There is no one software that cleans and immunizes you against everything. Antivirus software - you only needed one. Firewall, you only needed one. AntiSpyware - you will need several. I have a list and I recommend you use at least the first five. First - make sure you have NOT installed "Rogue AntiSpyware". There are people out there who created AntiSpyware products that actually install spyware of their own! You need to avoid these: Rogue/Suspect Anti-Spyware Products & Web Sites http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm Also, you can always visit this site.. http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm For more updated information. Install the first five of these: (Install, Run, Update, Scan with..) (If you already have one or more - uninstall them and download the LATEST version from the page given!) Lavasoft AdAware (Free and up) http://www.lavasoft.de/support/download/ (How-to: http://snipurl.com/atdn ) Spybot Search and Destroy (Free!) http://www.safer-networking.net/en/download/index.html (How-to: http://snipurl.com/atdk ) Bazooka Adware and Spyware Scanner (Free!) http://www.kephyr.com/spywarescanner/ (How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate3 ) SpywareBlaster (Free!) http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/sbdownload.html (How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate6 ) IE-SPYAD2 (Free!) https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/ehowes/www/resource.htm (How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate7 ) CWShredder Stand-Alone (Free!) http://www.intermute.com/spysubtract..._download.html Hijack This! (Free!) http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html (Log Analyzer: http://hjt.iamnotageek.com/ ) ToolbarCop (Free!) http://windowsxp.mvps.org/toolbarcop.htm Ccleaner (Free!) http://www.ccleaner.com/ Microsoft AntiSpyware BETA (in testing stages - Free!) http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...ware/software/ (How-to: http://snipurl.com/fqur ) Browser Security Tests (Free Tester) http://www.jasons-toolbox.com/BrowserSecurity/ Popup Tester (Free Tester) http://www.popuptest.com/ The Cleaner (~$49.95 and up) http://www.moosoft.com/ |
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Jonny wrote:
I would ask would two or more self updating pay for antispyware programs be adequate. Many AVs have spyware sniffers built-in, does this count? Some have ZA Pro with its own antispyware, would this count as one? If not, why? I think you're asking the wrong questions. Whether they are free or for pay, and whether or not they are self-updating, the issue isn't literally how *many* you have, or what "counts." The problem is that there is so much new spyware constantly coming out thatn one of the makers of these programs have been able to do a consistly good-enough job of keeping up with them. Eric Howes, on http://spywarewarrior.com/asw-test-guide.htm, states "No single anti-spyware scanner removes everything. Even the best-performing anti-spyware scanner in these tests missed fully one quarter of the 'critical' files and Registry entries." and "It is better to use two or more anti-spyware scanners in combination, as one will often detect and remove things that others do not." So you need to decide how careful you want to be, and to what lengths you are willing to go to protect yourself. One decent product will provide some protection, two will provide more protection, three will provide more protection than two, and so on. It's clearly more trouble to use multiple programs, and only you can decide whether the extra protection is worth it to you., and where you should stop. My personal view is better safe than sorry, so I use all of the following: Spybot Search and Destroy Adaware Spyware Blaster Spyware Guard Microsoft Anti-Spyware beta. -- Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User Please reply to the newsgroup |
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"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in
: Fuzzy Logic wrote: Madness...I only use Ad-Aware and it never even finds a bad cookie. I used to use Spybot as well but it never found anything either so I removed it. I used to have fire insurance on my house, but I never had a fire, so I removed it. You left out half of my reply: Madness...I only use Ad-Aware and it never even finds a bad cookie. I used to use Spybot as well but it never found anything either so I removed it. If you practice safe surfing and properly configure your browser you won't get malware. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I still run Ad-Aware on a regular basis, just in case, but have NEVER found a single piece of malware on both of the computers I use. If you don't practice safe surfing and/or can't be bothered to properly configure your browser by all means have some insurance. |
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Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
Jonny wrote: Spybot Search and Destroy Adaware Spyware Blaster Spyware Guard Microsoft Anti-Spyware beta. I run: Spybot Search and Destroy Adaware SE Spyware Blaster Trend Micro Microsoft Anti-Spyware Beta. Is Spyware Guard worth installing, and does it use a lot of memory when running? |
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Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
Spybot Search and Destroy Adaware Spyware Blaster Spyware Guard Microsoft Anti-Spyware beta. DrJoel wrote: I run: Spybot Search and Destroy Adaware SE Spyware Blaster Trend Micro Microsoft Anti-Spyware Beta. Is Spyware Guard worth installing, and does it use a lot of memory when running? I used to use SpywareGuard - but after a while - I stopped using it. I do use "IE GuardWall" on a couple of systems. The company went out of business - and they released a working key to the public before doing so.. It works surprisingly well and is easy to understand - but I have not added it to my list of recommended applications - simply because it is never going to be updated. Likely I will stop using it someday soon as well. -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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Fuzzy Logic wrote:
"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in : Fuzzy Logic wrote: Madness...I only use Ad-Aware and it never even finds a bad cookie. I used to use Spybot as well but it never found anything either so I removed it. I used to have fire insurance on my house, but I never had a fire, so I removed it. You left out half of my reply: Madness...I only use Ad-Aware and it never even finds a bad cookie. I used to use Spybot as well but it never found anything either so I removed it. If you practice safe surfing and properly configure your browser you won't get malware. True, but none of us is perfect, and we are all capable of making a mistake. After a bad day at the office, a fight with one's spouse, too much to drink, or many other things, it's easy to get distracted and make a mistake we wouldn't normally make. Using care is great--I'm all for it. But *relying* on care is not so great, and can be very dangerous. For that reason I supplement the care that I use with software protection and recommend that others do the same. Not to mention that *most* people don't have anywhere near the skill necessary to protect themsleves without software. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I still run Ad-Aware on a regular basis, just in case, but have NEVER found a single piece of malware on both of the computers I use. Nor have I, and I run many more products than that.. If you don't practice safe surfing and/or can't be bothered to properly configure your browser by all means have some insurance. Insurance is *always* good, regardless of what you do. Especially in this case when most of the products are free, hardly affect performance at all, and are very easy to use. -- Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User Please reply to the newsgroup |
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DrJoel wrote:
Ken Blake, MVP wrote: I run: Spybot Search and Destroy Adaware SE Spyware Blaster Trend Micro Microsoft Anti-Spyware Beta. Is Spyware Guard worth installing, Well, since I use it, obviously I think so. and does it use a lot of memory when running? 9432KB at the moment here. I have been unable to notice any degradation of performance even with all the products I use. -- Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User Please reply to the newsgroup |
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"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in
: Fuzzy Logic wrote: "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in : Fuzzy Logic wrote: Madness...I only use Ad-Aware and it never even finds a bad cookie. I used to use Spybot as well but it never found anything either so I removed it. I used to have fire insurance on my house, but I never had a fire, so I removed it. You left out half of my reply: Madness...I only use Ad-Aware and it never even finds a bad cookie. I used to use Spybot as well but it never found anything either so I removed it. If you practice safe surfing and properly configure your browser you won't get malware. True, but none of us is perfect, and we are all capable of making a mistake. After a bad day at the office, a fight with one's spouse, too much to drink, or many other things, it's easy to get distracted and make a mistake we wouldn't normally make. Using care is great--I'm all for it. But *relying* on care is not so great, and can be very dangerous. For that reason I supplement the care that I use with software protection and recommend that others do the same. Not to mention that *most* people don't have anywhere near the skill necessary to protect themsleves without software. http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/193 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- I still run Ad-Aware on a regular basis, just in case, but have NEVER found a single piece of malware on both of the computers I use. Nor have I, and I run many more products than that.. If you don't practice safe surfing and/or can't be bothered to properly configure your browser by all means have some insurance. Insurance is *always* good, regardless of what you do. Especially in this case when most of the products are free, hardly affect performance at all, and are very easy to use. My only problem is that some of these Spyware programs have poorly tested detection rules that mess with your registry and may make cripple or make your machine unusable. |
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Fuzzy Logic wrote:
"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in : If you don't practice safe surfing and/or can't be bothered to properly configure your browser by all means have some insurance. Insurance is *always* good, regardless of what you do. Especially in this case when most of the products are free, hardly affect performance at all, and are very easy to use. My only problem is that some of these Spyware programs have poorly tested detection rules that mess with your registry and may make cripple or make your machine unusable. True. Some are even worse than that, and are dangerous by design. See http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm You can get poor quality, and even dangerous-to-use products in almost any software category. I recommend using only the good ones and not the poor ones. g Eric Howes site, which I reference above, is a good source of information on which are good and which aren't. -- Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User Please reply to the newsgroup |
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