Vista Is Bad But Linux Is Horrendous!!!!

arachnid writes:

On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:02:25 -0800, jjwassermann wrote:

On Feb 25, 10:14 am, Kier wrote:
How come I can't play encrypted DVD's (time to go steal libdvdcss).

Steal it? How? It's freely available.

In the USA?
And if it is totally legal to use, why is it not included in Linux
distributions?
And why is it usually found on some remote site out in the middle of the
Pacific Ocean?

Not that it matters to a full-of-BS troll, but just for general info
Americans can buy a legally licensed DVD decoder for Linux for $8 from

Linux and "buy" do not go together. You should know that.

Hadron Quark wrote:
Linux and "buy" do not go together. You should know that.

Um, you're wrong. Last I checked, hardware is not free and without
hardware, Linux is useless.

Alias

On Feb 25, 12:13 pm, arachnid wrote:
On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:02:25 -0800, jjwassermann wrote:
On Feb 25, 10:14 am, Kier wrote:
How come I can't play encrypted DVD's (time to go steal libdvdcss).

Steal it? How? It's freely available.

In the USA?
And if it is totally legal to use, why is it not included in Linux
distributions?
And why is it usually found on some remote site out in the middle of the
Pacific Ocean?

Not that it matters to a full-of-BS troll, but just for general info
Americans can buy a legally licensed DVD decoder for Linux for $8 fromhttps://shop.fluendo.com. Other decoders are also available and they also
have a package deal. Prices are given in Euros, go here to see what they
are in dollars:http://www.xe.com/ucc/

1. You didn't answer the question. IOW if they are legal why are they
not included with Linux?
2.Why can't I use the legal decoder that came packaged with my DVD
player? I have to pay again just to use Linux?


Personally I'd absolutely *love* to see the media industry try to go after
Linux users for just trying to view legally-purchased DVD's on their
computers. That would be the end of the DMCA.

I'd love to see the media industry eliminate DRM/DMCA all together.
Maybe it will happen if enough Windows and Apple users get ****ed off.

Linux won't be any help though because there aren't enough Linux users
to matter.

wrote:
On Feb 25, 10:14 am, Kier wrote:
How come I can't play encrypted DVD's (time to go steal libdvdcss).
Steal it? How? It's freely available.

In the USA?

Who cares? Most people do not live in the USA and are not subjected to
this stupidity.

And if it is totally legal to use, why is it not included in Linux
distributions?

Ever hear of Automatix?

Alias

wrote:
On Feb 25, 12:13 pm, arachnid wrote:
On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:02:25 -0800, jjwassermann wrote:
On Feb 25, 10:14 am, Kier wrote:
How come I can't play encrypted DVD's (time to go steal libdvdcss).
Steal it? How? It's freely available.
In the USA?
And if it is totally legal to use, why is it not included in Linux
distributions?
And why is it usually found on some remote site out in the middle of the
Pacific Ocean?
Not that it matters to a full-of-BS troll, but just for general info
Americans can buy a legally licensed DVD decoder for Linux for $8 fromhttps://shop.fluendo.com. Other decoders are also available and they also
have a package deal. Prices are given in Euros, go here to see what they
are in dollars:http://www.xe.com/ucc/

1. You didn't answer the question. IOW if they are legal why are they
not included with Linux?
2.Why can't I use the legal decoder that came packaged with my DVD
player? I have to pay again just to use Linux?


Personally I'd absolutely *love* to see the media industry try to go after
Linux users for just trying to view legally-purchased DVD's on their
computers. That would be the end of the DMCA.

I'd love to see the media industry eliminate DRM/DMCA all together.
Maybe it will happen if enough Windows and Apple users get ****ed off.

Linux won't be any help though because there aren't enough Linux users
to matter.



Considering that Linux users do not have to register, activate,
genuinize or otherwise report that they are using Linux, how would you
know how many there are? I have one Unbuntu CD. I have copied it and
given it to ten friends. I have installed it on three computers. No one
sent me a poll or asked me squat. Fact is all my computers do a dual
boot with XP so I guess I am a Windows/Linux user. I don't see any stats
for that either and never will.

Alias

Alias writes:

Hadron Quark wrote:
Linux and "buy" do not go together. You should know that.

Um, you're wrong. Last I checked, hardware is not free and without
hardware, Linux is useless.

Alias

Who mentioned HW? I said "Linux and "buy" do not go together".

Alias writes:

wrote:
On Feb 25, 12:13 pm, arachnid wrote:
On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:02:25 -0800, jjwassermann wrote:
On Feb 25, 10:14 am, Kier wrote:
How come I can't play encrypted DVD's (time to go steal libdvdcss).
Steal it? How? It's freely available.
In the USA?
And if it is totally legal to use, why is it not included in Linux
distributions?
And why is it usually found on some remote site out in the middle of the
Pacific Ocean?
Not that it matters to a full-of-BS troll, but just for general info
Americans can buy a legally licensed DVD decoder for Linux for $8 fromhttps://shop.fluendo.com. Other decoders are also available and they also
have a package deal. Prices are given in Euros, go here to see what they
are in dollars:http://www.xe.com/ucc/

1. You didn't answer the question. IOW if they are legal why are they
not included with Linux?
2.Why can't I use the legal decoder that came packaged with my DVD
player? I have to pay again just to use Linux?


Personally I'd absolutely *love* to see the media industry try to go after
Linux users for just trying to view legally-purchased DVD's on their
computers. That would be the end of the DMCA.

I'd love to see the media industry eliminate DRM/DMCA all together.
Maybe it will happen if enough Windows and Apple users get ****ed off.

Linux won't be any help though because there aren't enough Linux users
to matter.



Considering that Linux users do not have to register, activate,
genuinize or otherwise report that they are using Linux, how would you
know how many there are?

I guess in the course of the last 10 years I know or have worked with
about 500 people. And out of them only about 2 had Linux - and that
was, like me, as a hobby. None of them used it in a commercial sense.

Alias writes:

wrote:
On Feb 25, 10:14 am, Kier wrote:
How come I can't play encrypted DVD's (time to go steal libdvdcss).
Steal it? How? It's freely available.

In the USA?

Who cares? Most people do not live in the USA and are not subjected to
this stupidity.

And if it is totally legal to use, why is it not included in Linux
distributions?

Ever hear of Automatix?

Did you answer his question? Why is it not included?

Hadron Quark wrote:
Alias writes:

Hadron Quark wrote:
Linux and "buy" do not go together. You should know that.
Um, you're wrong. Last I checked, hardware is not free and without
hardware, Linux is useless.

Alias

Who mentioned HW?

I obviously did because you obviously left that out.

I said "Linux and "buy" do not go together".

So, you're saying that Linux users don't buy hardware?

Alias

Hadron Quark wrote:
Alias writes:

wrote:
On Feb 25, 12:13 pm, arachnid wrote:
On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:02:25 -0800, jjwassermann wrote:
On Feb 25, 10:14 am, Kier wrote:
How come I can't play encrypted DVD's (time to go steal libdvdcss).
Steal it? How? It's freely available.
In the USA?
And if it is totally legal to use, why is it not included in Linux
distributions?
And why is it usually found on some remote site out in the middle of the
Pacific Ocean?
Not that it matters to a full-of-BS troll, but just for general info
Americans can buy a legally licensed DVD decoder for Linux for $8 fromhttps://shop.fluendo.com. Other decoders are also available and they also
have a package deal. Prices are given in Euros, go here to see what they
are in dollars:http://www.xe.com/ucc/
1. You didn't answer the question. IOW if they are legal why are they
not included with Linux?
2.Why can't I use the legal decoder that came packaged with my DVD
player? I have to pay again just to use Linux?


Personally I'd absolutely *love* to see the media industry try to go after
Linux users for just trying to view legally-purchased DVD's on their
computers. That would be the end of the DMCA.
I'd love to see the media industry eliminate DRM/DMCA all together.
Maybe it will happen if enough Windows and Apple users get ****ed off.

Linux won't be any help though because there aren't enough Linux users
to matter.


Considering that Linux users do not have to register, activate,
genuinize or otherwise report that they are using Linux, how would you
know how many there are?

I guess in the course of the last 10 years I know or have worked with
about 500 people. And out of them only about 2 had Linux - and that
was, like me, as a hobby. None of them used it in a commercial sense.

I can't help it if you hang out with the wrong crowd.

Alias

Hadron Quark wrote:
Alias writes:

wrote:
On Feb 25, 10:14 am, Kier wrote:
How come I can't play encrypted DVD's (time to go steal libdvdcss).
Steal it? How? It's freely available.
In the USA?
Who cares? Most people do not live in the USA and are not subjected to
this stupidity.

And if it is totally legal to use, why is it not included in Linux
distributions?
Ever hear of Automatix?

Did you answer his question? Why is it not included?

Ever hear of Automatix?

Alias

Alias writes:

Hadron Quark wrote:
Alias writes:

wrote:
On Feb 25, 10:14 am, Kier wrote:
How come I can't play encrypted DVD's (time to go steal libdvdcss).
Steal it? How? It's freely available.
In the USA?
Who cares? Most people do not live in the USA and are not subjected to
this stupidity.

And if it is totally legal to use, why is it not included in Linux
distributions?
Ever hear of Automatix?

Did you answer his question? Why is it not included?

Ever hear of Automatix?

Alias

Automatix has nothing to do with the question. ps My Ubuntu works, so
yes, I have.

Alias writes:

Hadron Quark wrote:
Alias writes:

Hadron Quark wrote:
Linux and "buy" do not go together. You should know that.
Um, you're wrong. Last I checked, hardware is not free and without
hardware, Linux is useless.

Alias

Who mentioned HW?

I obviously did because you obviously left that out.

I said "Linux and "buy" do not go together".

So, you're saying that Linux users don't buy hardware?

No. Why do you ask? But we are not talking about HW. We are talking
about Linux. And additional, "pay for" SW.


Alias

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wrote:
On Feb 25, 9:22 am, Linonut wrote:
After takin' a swig o' grog, Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User belched out this bit o' wisdom:

LOL.. So you go to the 'comp.os.linux.advocacy' group just to hear Linux
users whine? I am sure that the people there would be more than happy to
know how you view them..
News flash: I doubt he's a Linux user, Mr. Microsoft Guy.

Good thing!
There doesn't seem to be too much talk of Linux in
comp.os.linux.advocacy these days.
Maybe you should change the name of the group to
comp.os.we.r.scared.of.vista.
Or maybe comp.spam.linux because it looks like there is some Linux
spambot that has gone off the rails loose over there.

And the only reason that Linux users don't call some clueless phone
technician is because there is no provision made..
Sure there is, if you're willing to pay RedHat prices.

Redhat isn't Linux.

hmmmmmm.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat
Red Hat, Inc. (NYSE: RHT) is one of the largest and most recognized
companies dedicated to open source software and the largest distributor
of the Linux operating system.


Many Windows users also work out problems for themselves.. I know that Linux
users like to think of themselves and the beloved command prompt computing
as the 'technical' end, but there are some very accomplished Windows users
out there too..
Obviously.

Hey, wait up! Linux has GUIs now.. LOL.. that must make things a whole bunch
easier for you guys..
Are you an excellent avatar for the MS MVP?

Here come the personal attacks.
Do you Linux cult people follow some kind of a secret script or
something?
The reason I ask is that many of your replies seem to end up into name
calling contests.
Maybe the average mental age over at comp.os.linux.advocacy is about
15?

Another news flash: Setting up a computer properly has absolutely
nothing to do with a command-line or a GUI.

True but you'll never sell one without a GUI to anyone other than a
uber geek.

Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
MVP -- Moronic Vole Person

More name calling.
Why not grow up?
It's not that bad being an adult except for disease and having to pay
taxes.




--
norm

arachnid wrote:
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 19:55:30 +0100, Alias wrote:

Justin wrote:
"arachnid" wrote in message
newsan.2007.02.23.02.31.07.846553@goawayspammers .com...
Um, no, Linux applications don't hog anything but drive space until you
use them. They don't take up memory, they don't kill the "registry",
and they don't cause the OS to crash just by having been installed.
So then they're not installed. You have a bunch of zipped up files on
your HDD not doing anything. Wow.
No, installed, just not doing anything until you tell it to do something.

Justin's reading comprehension is abominable.

Yes, it really is.



They don't even hog much that much drivespace. The /usr/bin directory I
listed contains 2031 programs but only requires about 180 megabytes of
HD space.
And I'm sure those are wonderful looking apps at that.
Look at the screen shots at www.ubuntu.com and judge for yourself.

Linux had Compiz/Beryl before MS had Aero. Nyaaaaaah! P

You can get a fair idea of how Linux bloat compares to Windows bloat by
looking at the installation CD's. With Ubuntu the installation CD
contains a Live filesystem plus several hundred top GUI applications
(I'm ignoring the extra 500 or so CLI applications) on a single 700M
CD. With Vista you need a DVD to hold just the OS installer.
That's right. It takes a DVD to hold an OS that the average consumer
can actually use productively as well as an OS that countless businesses
use to drive their...everything. Well, not yet. Currently it only
takes a CD to do that with windows.
Office, photoshop, anti this anti that come with Windows? I don't think
so. The programs come with Ubuntu and there are other programs you can
download to download and install more. They just don't run in the
background like many programs do in Windows.

Nor do they bloat the "registry", interfere with other programs'
configurations, tie up memory by being "pre-loaded" to skew benchmarks, or
leave the system unstable.




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