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  #31  
Old February 13th 09, 02:22 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Bruce Chambers
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Posts: 6,208
Default Registry Issues and more

tech_nova wrote:
Hi,

When more and more softwares are installed, the performance of
computer becomes poorer.



No, that's completely untrue.


To boost computer performance,periodic
cleaning of registry is required so that the unwanted entries can be
removed..


No, that's completely untrue.


You can perform process of registry cleaning either manually
or by using any effective registry cleaner software.. Make sure that
you have sound technical knowledge about registry before trying it
manually. For non technical users, registry repair softwares are
recommended...





Why do you even think you'd ever need to clean your registry? What
specific *problems* are you actually experiencing (not some program's
bogus listing of imaginary problems) that you think can be fixed by
using a registry "cleaner?"

If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would
be far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the
specific key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. After
all, why use a chainsaw when a scalpel will do the job? Additionally,
the manually changing of one or two registry entries is far less likely
to have the dire consequences of allowing an automated product to make
multiple changes simultaneously. The only thing needed to safely clean
your registry is knowledge and Regedit.exe.

The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of
the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the
device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in the
registry can have severe consequences. One should not even turning
loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully
confident that he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of
each and every change.

Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people using
automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most
experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.
Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands
of the inexperienced user. If you lack the knowledge and experience to
maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and
experience to safely configure and use any automated registry cleaner,
no matter how safe they claim to be.

More importantly, no one has ever demonstrated that the use of an
automated registry "cleaner," particularly by an untrained,
inexperienced computer user, does any real good, whatsoever. There's
certainly been no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use
of such products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's
performance or stability. Given the potential for harm, it's just not
worth the risk.

Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems each and
every time they're used, but the potential for harm is always there.
And, since no registry "cleaner" has ever been demonstrated to do any
good (think of them like treating the flu with chicken soup - there's no
real medicinal value, but it sometimes provides a warming placebo
effect), I always tell people that the risks far out-weigh the
non-existent benefits.

I will concede that a good registry *scanning* tool, in the hands
of an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist can be a
useful time-saving diagnostic tool, as long as it's not allowed to make
any changes automatically. But I really don't think that there are any
registry "cleaners" that are truly safe for the general public to use.
Experience has proven just the opposite: such tools simply are not safe
in the hands of the inexperienced user.

A little further reading on the subject:

Why I don't use registry cleaners
http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=643

AumHa Forums • View topic - AUMHA Discussion: Should I Use a Registry
Cleaner?
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
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  #32  
Old February 13th 09, 02:22 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Bruce Chambers
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Posts: 6,208
Default Registry Issues and more

tech_nova wrote:
Hi,

When more and more softwares are installed, the performance of
computer becomes poorer.



No, that's completely untrue.


To boost computer performance,periodic
cleaning of registry is required so that the unwanted entries can be
removed..


No, that's completely untrue.


You can perform process of registry cleaning either manually
or by using any effective registry cleaner software.. Make sure that
you have sound technical knowledge about registry before trying it
manually. For non technical users, registry repair softwares are
recommended...





Why do you even think you'd ever need to clean your registry? What
specific *problems* are you actually experiencing (not some program's
bogus listing of imaginary problems) that you think can be fixed by
using a registry "cleaner?"

If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would
be far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the
specific key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. After
all, why use a chainsaw when a scalpel will do the job? Additionally,
the manually changing of one or two registry entries is far less likely
to have the dire consequences of allowing an automated product to make
multiple changes simultaneously. The only thing needed to safely clean
your registry is knowledge and Regedit.exe.

The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of
the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the
device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in the
registry can have severe consequences. One should not even turning
loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully
confident that he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of
each and every change.

Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people using
automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most
experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.
Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands
of the inexperienced user. If you lack the knowledge and experience to
maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and
experience to safely configure and use any automated registry cleaner,
no matter how safe they claim to be.

More importantly, no one has ever demonstrated that the use of an
automated registry "cleaner," particularly by an untrained,
inexperienced computer user, does any real good, whatsoever. There's
certainly been no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use
of such products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's
performance or stability. Given the potential for harm, it's just not
worth the risk.

Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems each and
every time they're used, but the potential for harm is always there.
And, since no registry "cleaner" has ever been demonstrated to do any
good (think of them like treating the flu with chicken soup - there's no
real medicinal value, but it sometimes provides a warming placebo
effect), I always tell people that the risks far out-weigh the
non-existent benefits.

I will concede that a good registry *scanning* tool, in the hands
of an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist can be a
useful time-saving diagnostic tool, as long as it's not allowed to make
any changes automatically. But I really don't think that there are any
registry "cleaners" that are truly safe for the general public to use.
Experience has proven just the opposite: such tools simply are not safe
in the hands of the inexperienced user.

A little further reading on the subject:

Why I don't use registry cleaners
http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=643

AumHa Forums • View topic - AUMHA Discussion: Should I Use a Registry
Cleaner?
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
  #33  
Old February 16th 09, 03:56 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Twayne[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 4,276
Default Registry Issues and more

Unknown wrote:
If you had a 20 second delay, it would be much wiser to find the
cause than to run a registry cleaner.


Uhh, when it's the design of the registry to allow 20 Seconds for the
function to start up? When what it's calling doesn't exist, what would
YOU suggest could be done otherwise? Or is the 20 S new to you?

Jeez,

Cheers,

Twayne


"Twayne" wrote in message
...
John John arose from his potty chair and said

Not true at all.


Nahh, you can't say that. I had another one in the other day that
it took a reg cleaner to get that last 20 Second delay out. In this
case part of the boot problem WAS the registry. But one should only
go there when other more likely causes have been
repaired/eliminated. It also removed 14 over-length paths, 44
removed files and trash from 15 previously uninstalled programs,
each with a very long path. I jotted them down just to show youg.

Twayne



John

tech_nova wrote:

Hi,

When more and more softwares are installed, the performance of
computer becomes poorer. To boost computer performance,periodic
cleaning of registry is required so that the unwanted entries can
be removed.. You can perform process of registry cleaning either
manually or by using any effective registry cleaner software.. Make
sure that you have sound technical knowledge about registry before
trying it manually. For non technical users, registry repair
softwares are recommended...




  #34  
Old February 16th 09, 03:56 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Twayne[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 4,276
Default Registry Issues and more

Unknown wrote:
If you had a 20 second delay, it would be much wiser to find the
cause than to run a registry cleaner.


Uhh, when it's the design of the registry to allow 20 Seconds for the
function to start up? When what it's calling doesn't exist, what would
YOU suggest could be done otherwise? Or is the 20 S new to you?

Jeez,

Cheers,

Twayne


"Twayne" wrote in message
...
John John arose from his potty chair and said

Not true at all.


Nahh, you can't say that. I had another one in the other day that
it took a reg cleaner to get that last 20 Second delay out. In this
case part of the boot problem WAS the registry. But one should only
go there when other more likely causes have been
repaired/eliminated. It also removed 14 over-length paths, 44
removed files and trash from 15 previously uninstalled programs,
each with a very long path. I jotted them down just to show youg.

Twayne



John

tech_nova wrote:

Hi,

When more and more softwares are installed, the performance of
computer becomes poorer. To boost computer performance,periodic
cleaning of registry is required so that the unwanted entries can
be removed.. You can perform process of registry cleaning either
manually or by using any effective registry cleaner software.. Make
sure that you have sound technical knowledge about registry before
trying it manually. For non technical users, registry repair
softwares are recommended...




  #35  
Old February 16th 09, 03:57 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Twayne[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 4,276
Default Registry Issues and more

Unknown wrote:
Good grief, if you add 200 nanoseconds to a routine because you
installed another program, can anyone detect that.
You are arguing insignificant timings.


I am not arguing; I am pointing out deficiencies in the same proportions
as the claims. Learn to comprehend.

"Twayne" wrote in message
...
Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:05:40 -0400, "John John (MVP)"
wrote:

Not true at all.


Right, not true. And to be even more specific, he makes two
statements, both of which are completely false:


No, you're wrong.

1. "When more and more softwares [sic] are installed, the
performance of computer becomes poorer." That's completely false.


*[sic]* ??

Nope, not completely false. It may often not be NOTICEABLE but
anything that adds cpu cycles takes time. Some programs write
thousands of registry entries upon install. Witness the drop in
responsiveness that occurs when you one rebuids a computer and adds
say Microsoft Office to it. THERE is a noticeable slowdown in
several differing ways, one of which is registry related big time.

2. "To boost computer performance,periodic cleaning of registry is
required so that the unwanted entries can be removed." And that is
also completely false.


Nope, not completely false at all. Badly stated perhaps, but it's
simply the reverse of the above. It's wrong IMO in that it's not
"required" to remove unwanted entries. But anything occurring which
lowers the number of cpu cycles will result in faster response. There
are those that like to point out that a program goes
"directly" to the registry point it needs, but they neglect that
fact that in order to do that, there is a lookup to find the address
where that part of the registry lives, so ... "unwanted" entries are
still part of the lookup process and must be handled. Removing it
means it's not there to loop over, thus fewer cpu cycles, and thus
less time consumed. Removing something lke MSOffice definitely
results in a vry notiecable speed up, and then cleaning the
leftovers from it often results in another, much smaller but still
noticeable, increase in speed. The real problem is that registry
problems are much more than simply unwanted entries; it's a much
broader subject area.




tech_nova wrote:

Hi,

When more and more softwares are installed, the performance of
computer becomes poorer. To boost computer performance,periodic
cleaning of registry is required so that the unwanted entries can
be removed.. You can perform process of registry cleaning either
manually or by using any effective registry cleaner software..
Make sure that you have sound technical knowledge about registry
before trying it manually. For non technical users, registry
repair softwares are recommended...




  #36  
Old February 16th 09, 03:57 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Twayne[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 4,276
Default Registry Issues and more

Unknown wrote:
Good grief, if you add 200 nanoseconds to a routine because you
installed another program, can anyone detect that.
You are arguing insignificant timings.


I am not arguing; I am pointing out deficiencies in the same proportions
as the claims. Learn to comprehend.

"Twayne" wrote in message
...
Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:05:40 -0400, "John John (MVP)"
wrote:

Not true at all.


Right, not true. And to be even more specific, he makes two
statements, both of which are completely false:


No, you're wrong.

1. "When more and more softwares [sic] are installed, the
performance of computer becomes poorer." That's completely false.


*[sic]* ??

Nope, not completely false. It may often not be NOTICEABLE but
anything that adds cpu cycles takes time. Some programs write
thousands of registry entries upon install. Witness the drop in
responsiveness that occurs when you one rebuids a computer and adds
say Microsoft Office to it. THERE is a noticeable slowdown in
several differing ways, one of which is registry related big time.

2. "To boost computer performance,periodic cleaning of registry is
required so that the unwanted entries can be removed." And that is
also completely false.


Nope, not completely false at all. Badly stated perhaps, but it's
simply the reverse of the above. It's wrong IMO in that it's not
"required" to remove unwanted entries. But anything occurring which
lowers the number of cpu cycles will result in faster response. There
are those that like to point out that a program goes
"directly" to the registry point it needs, but they neglect that
fact that in order to do that, there is a lookup to find the address
where that part of the registry lives, so ... "unwanted" entries are
still part of the lookup process and must be handled. Removing it
means it's not there to loop over, thus fewer cpu cycles, and thus
less time consumed. Removing something lke MSOffice definitely
results in a vry notiecable speed up, and then cleaning the
leftovers from it often results in another, much smaller but still
noticeable, increase in speed. The real problem is that registry
problems are much more than simply unwanted entries; it's a much
broader subject area.




tech_nova wrote:

Hi,

When more and more softwares are installed, the performance of
computer becomes poorer. To boost computer performance,periodic
cleaning of registry is required so that the unwanted entries can
be removed.. You can perform process of registry cleaning either
manually or by using any effective registry cleaner software..
Make sure that you have sound technical knowledge about registry
before trying it manually. For non technical users, registry
repair softwares are recommended...




  #37  
Old February 16th 09, 04:07 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Twayne[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 4,276
Default Registry Issues and more

Bruce Chambers wrote:


There's that silly boilerplate from the laziest closed mind here.

tech_nova wrote:
Hi,

When more and more softwares are installed, the performance of
computer becomes poorer.



No, that's completely untrue.


It is impossible for that to be untrue. INstall XP, check the boot
time. Install MS Office and check the boot time again. ARe they
identical? I don't THINK so! The computer performance HAS gotten
slower! Quit being an idiot!



To boost computer performance,periodic
cleaning of registry is required so that the unwanted entries can be
removed..


No, that's completely untrue.


No, it is NOT completely untrue at all. Your'e as far left as that
statement is right. It's actually a good idea and prevents the
possibilty of the buildup of useless database occupation over time
resulting in more code that can corrupt to possible inadvertant pickups
on an old entry to actual slowing down on the machine. It IS true that
cleaners are probably run more often than necessary, but that's no big
deal since they will do no harm. Many MS programs and functions are a
LOT more dangerous than any registry cleaner. It's fact of life that MS
isn't stable all the time, although it's now considerably improved, but
the likelihood of a good cleaner rendering problems is as remote as any
other program on the machine, more remote in most cases.


You can perform process of registry cleaning either manually
or by using any effective registry cleaner software.. Make sure that
you have sound technical knowledge about registry before trying it
manually. For non technical users, registry repair softwares are
recommended...






Silly boilerplate snipped.
....

A little further reading on the subject:


That's not reading: It's SPAM!

Why I don't use registry cleaners
http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=643

We all know why YOU don't use registry cleaners.
Self serving article contrinbuted to by ... guess who? And I don't mean
me!

AumHa Forums • View topic - AUMHA Discussion: Should I Use a Registry
Cleaner?
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099


Same thing. Spamming for his favorite place to get authored. You don't
have to be accurate to post your spews there, just willing to help
perpetuate their crappiness.


Regards,

Twayne




  #38  
Old February 16th 09, 04:07 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Twayne[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 4,276
Default Registry Issues and more

Bruce Chambers wrote:


There's that silly boilerplate from the laziest closed mind here.

tech_nova wrote:
Hi,

When more and more softwares are installed, the performance of
computer becomes poorer.



No, that's completely untrue.


It is impossible for that to be untrue. INstall XP, check the boot
time. Install MS Office and check the boot time again. ARe they
identical? I don't THINK so! The computer performance HAS gotten
slower! Quit being an idiot!



To boost computer performance,periodic
cleaning of registry is required so that the unwanted entries can be
removed..


No, that's completely untrue.


No, it is NOT completely untrue at all. Your'e as far left as that
statement is right. It's actually a good idea and prevents the
possibilty of the buildup of useless database occupation over time
resulting in more code that can corrupt to possible inadvertant pickups
on an old entry to actual slowing down on the machine. It IS true that
cleaners are probably run more often than necessary, but that's no big
deal since they will do no harm. Many MS programs and functions are a
LOT more dangerous than any registry cleaner. It's fact of life that MS
isn't stable all the time, although it's now considerably improved, but
the likelihood of a good cleaner rendering problems is as remote as any
other program on the machine, more remote in most cases.


You can perform process of registry cleaning either manually
or by using any effective registry cleaner software.. Make sure that
you have sound technical knowledge about registry before trying it
manually. For non technical users, registry repair softwares are
recommended...






Silly boilerplate snipped.
....

A little further reading on the subject:


That's not reading: It's SPAM!

Why I don't use registry cleaners
http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=643

We all know why YOU don't use registry cleaners.
Self serving article contrinbuted to by ... guess who? And I don't mean
me!

AumHa Forums • View topic - AUMHA Discussion: Should I Use a Registry
Cleaner?
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099


Same thing. Spamming for his favorite place to get authored. You don't
have to be accurate to post your spews there, just willing to help
perpetuate their crappiness.


Regards,

Twayne




  #39  
Old February 16th 09, 04:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Unknown
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 6,007
Default Registry Issues and more

Why is it calling something that doesn't exist? Think man think.
"Twayne" wrote in message
...
Unknown wrote:
If you had a 20 second delay, it would be much wiser to find the
cause than to run a registry cleaner.


Uhh, when it's the design of the registry to allow 20 Seconds for the
function to start up? When what it's calling doesn't exist, what would
YOU suggest could be done otherwise? Or is the 20 S new to you?

Jeez,

Cheers,

Twayne


"Twayne" wrote in message
...
John John arose from his potty chair and said

Not true at all.

Nahh, you can't say that. I had another one in the other day that
it took a reg cleaner to get that last 20 Second delay out. In this
case part of the boot problem WAS the registry. But one should only
go there when other more likely causes have been
repaired/eliminated. It also removed 14 over-length paths, 44
removed files and trash from 15 previously uninstalled programs,
each with a very long path. I jotted them down just to show youg.

Twayne



John

tech_nova wrote:

Hi,

When more and more softwares are installed, the performance of
computer becomes poorer. To boost computer performance,periodic
cleaning of registry is required so that the unwanted entries can
be removed.. You can perform process of registry cleaning either
manually or by using any effective registry cleaner software.. Make
sure that you have sound technical knowledge about registry before
trying it manually. For non technical users, registry repair
softwares are recommended...






  #40  
Old February 16th 09, 04:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Unknown
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 6,007
Default Registry Issues and more

Why is it calling something that doesn't exist? Think man think.
"Twayne" wrote in message
...
Unknown wrote:
If you had a 20 second delay, it would be much wiser to find the
cause than to run a registry cleaner.


Uhh, when it's the design of the registry to allow 20 Seconds for the
function to start up? When what it's calling doesn't exist, what would
YOU suggest could be done otherwise? Or is the 20 S new to you?

Jeez,

Cheers,

Twayne


"Twayne" wrote in message
...
John John arose from his potty chair and said

Not true at all.

Nahh, you can't say that. I had another one in the other day that
it took a reg cleaner to get that last 20 Second delay out. In this
case part of the boot problem WAS the registry. But one should only
go there when other more likely causes have been
repaired/eliminated. It also removed 14 over-length paths, 44
removed files and trash from 15 previously uninstalled programs,
each with a very long path. I jotted them down just to show youg.

Twayne



John

tech_nova wrote:

Hi,

When more and more softwares are installed, the performance of
computer becomes poorer. To boost computer performance,periodic
cleaning of registry is required so that the unwanted entries can
be removed.. You can perform process of registry cleaning either
manually or by using any effective registry cleaner software.. Make
sure that you have sound technical knowledge about registry before
trying it manually. For non technical users, registry repair
softwares are recommended...






  #41  
Old February 16th 09, 04:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Unknown
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 6,007
Default Registry Issues and more

In YOUR mind that's not arguing.
"Twayne" wrote in message
...
Unknown wrote:
Good grief, if you add 200 nanoseconds to a routine because you
installed another program, can anyone detect that.
You are arguing insignificant timings.


I am not arguing; I am pointing out deficiencies in the same proportions
as the claims. Learn to comprehend.

"Twayne" wrote in message
...
Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:05:40 -0400, "John John (MVP)"
wrote:

Not true at all.


Right, not true. And to be even more specific, he makes two
statements, both of which are completely false:

No, you're wrong.

1. "When more and more softwares [sic] are installed, the
performance of computer becomes poorer." That's completely false.

*[sic]* ??

Nope, not completely false. It may often not be NOTICEABLE but
anything that adds cpu cycles takes time. Some programs write
thousands of registry entries upon install. Witness the drop in
responsiveness that occurs when you one rebuids a computer and adds
say Microsoft Office to it. THERE is a noticeable slowdown in
several differing ways, one of which is registry related big time.

2. "To boost computer performance,periodic cleaning of registry is
required so that the unwanted entries can be removed." And that is
also completely false.

Nope, not completely false at all. Badly stated perhaps, but it's
simply the reverse of the above. It's wrong IMO in that it's not
"required" to remove unwanted entries. But anything occurring which
lowers the number of cpu cycles will result in faster response. There
are those that like to point out that a program goes
"directly" to the registry point it needs, but they neglect that
fact that in order to do that, there is a lookup to find the address
where that part of the registry lives, so ... "unwanted" entries are
still part of the lookup process and must be handled. Removing it
means it's not there to loop over, thus fewer cpu cycles, and thus
less time consumed. Removing something lke MSOffice definitely
results in a vry notiecable speed up, and then cleaning the
leftovers from it often results in another, much smaller but still
noticeable, increase in speed. The real problem is that registry
problems are much more than simply unwanted entries; it's a much
broader subject area.




tech_nova wrote:

Hi,

When more and more softwares are installed, the performance of
computer becomes poorer. To boost computer performance,periodic
cleaning of registry is required so that the unwanted entries can
be removed.. You can perform process of registry cleaning either
manually or by using any effective registry cleaner software..
Make sure that you have sound technical knowledge about registry
before trying it manually. For non technical users, registry
repair softwares are recommended...






  #42  
Old February 16th 09, 04:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Unknown
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 6,007
Default Registry Issues and more

In YOUR mind that's not arguing.
"Twayne" wrote in message
...
Unknown wrote:
Good grief, if you add 200 nanoseconds to a routine because you
installed another program, can anyone detect that.
You are arguing insignificant timings.


I am not arguing; I am pointing out deficiencies in the same proportions
as the claims. Learn to comprehend.

"Twayne" wrote in message
...
Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:05:40 -0400, "John John (MVP)"
wrote:

Not true at all.


Right, not true. And to be even more specific, he makes two
statements, both of which are completely false:

No, you're wrong.

1. "When more and more softwares [sic] are installed, the
performance of computer becomes poorer." That's completely false.

*[sic]* ??

Nope, not completely false. It may often not be NOTICEABLE but
anything that adds cpu cycles takes time. Some programs write
thousands of registry entries upon install. Witness the drop in
responsiveness that occurs when you one rebuids a computer and adds
say Microsoft Office to it. THERE is a noticeable slowdown in
several differing ways, one of which is registry related big time.

2. "To boost computer performance,periodic cleaning of registry is
required so that the unwanted entries can be removed." And that is
also completely false.

Nope, not completely false at all. Badly stated perhaps, but it's
simply the reverse of the above. It's wrong IMO in that it's not
"required" to remove unwanted entries. But anything occurring which
lowers the number of cpu cycles will result in faster response. There
are those that like to point out that a program goes
"directly" to the registry point it needs, but they neglect that
fact that in order to do that, there is a lookup to find the address
where that part of the registry lives, so ... "unwanted" entries are
still part of the lookup process and must be handled. Removing it
means it's not there to loop over, thus fewer cpu cycles, and thus
less time consumed. Removing something lke MSOffice definitely
results in a vry notiecable speed up, and then cleaning the
leftovers from it often results in another, much smaller but still
noticeable, increase in speed. The real problem is that registry
problems are much more than simply unwanted entries; it's a much
broader subject area.




tech_nova wrote:

Hi,

When more and more softwares are installed, the performance of
computer becomes poorer. To boost computer performance,periodic
cleaning of registry is required so that the unwanted entries can
be removed.. You can perform process of registry cleaning either
manually or by using any effective registry cleaner software..
Make sure that you have sound technical knowledge about registry
before trying it manually. For non technical users, registry
repair softwares are recommended...






  #43  
Old February 16th 09, 04:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
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That is utter sheer stupidity. I have done exactly that. I.E. installed
Office. Boot time is 'identical'. I do NOT load Office at boot time. I call
it when I need it.
"Twayne" wrote in message
...
Bruce Chambers wrote:


There's that silly boilerplate from the laziest closed mind here.

tech_nova wrote:
Hi,

When more and more softwares are installed, the performance of
computer becomes poorer.



No, that's completely untrue.


It is impossible for that to be untrue. INstall XP, check the boot time.
Install MS Office and check the boot time again. ARe they identical? I
don't THINK so! The computer performance HAS gotten slower! Quit being
an idiot!



To boost computer performance,periodic
cleaning of registry is required so that the unwanted entries can be
removed..


No, that's completely untrue.


No, it is NOT completely untrue at all. Your'e as far left as that
statement is right. It's actually a good idea and prevents the possibilty
of the buildup of useless database occupation over time resulting in more
code that can corrupt to possible inadvertant pickups on an old entry to
actual slowing down on the machine. It IS true that cleaners are probably
run more often than necessary, but that's no big deal since they will do
no harm. Many MS programs and functions are a LOT more dangerous than any
registry cleaner. It's fact of life that MS isn't stable all the time,
although it's now considerably improved, but the likelihood of a good
cleaner rendering problems is as remote as any other program on the
machine, more remote in most cases.


You can perform process of registry cleaning either manually
or by using any effective registry cleaner software.. Make sure that
you have sound technical knowledge about registry before trying it
manually. For non technical users, registry repair softwares are
recommended...






Silly boilerplate snipped.
...

A little further reading on the subject:


That's not reading: It's SPAM!

Why I don't use registry cleaners
http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=643

We all know why YOU don't use registry cleaners.
Self serving article contrinbuted to by ... guess who? And I don't mean
me!

AumHa Forums . View topic - AUMHA Discussion: Should I Use a Registry
Cleaner?
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099


Same thing. Spamming for his favorite place to get authored. You don't
have to be accurate to post your spews there, just willing to help
perpetuate their crappiness.


Regards,

Twayne






  #44  
Old February 16th 09, 04:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
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external usenet poster
 
Posts: 6,007
Default Registry Issues and more

That is utter sheer stupidity. I have done exactly that. I.E. installed
Office. Boot time is 'identical'. I do NOT load Office at boot time. I call
it when I need it.
"Twayne" wrote in message
...
Bruce Chambers wrote:


There's that silly boilerplate from the laziest closed mind here.

tech_nova wrote:
Hi,

When more and more softwares are installed, the performance of
computer becomes poorer.



No, that's completely untrue.


It is impossible for that to be untrue. INstall XP, check the boot time.
Install MS Office and check the boot time again. ARe they identical? I
don't THINK so! The computer performance HAS gotten slower! Quit being
an idiot!



To boost computer performance,periodic
cleaning of registry is required so that the unwanted entries can be
removed..


No, that's completely untrue.


No, it is NOT completely untrue at all. Your'e as far left as that
statement is right. It's actually a good idea and prevents the possibilty
of the buildup of useless database occupation over time resulting in more
code that can corrupt to possible inadvertant pickups on an old entry to
actual slowing down on the machine. It IS true that cleaners are probably
run more often than necessary, but that's no big deal since they will do
no harm. Many MS programs and functions are a LOT more dangerous than any
registry cleaner. It's fact of life that MS isn't stable all the time,
although it's now considerably improved, but the likelihood of a good
cleaner rendering problems is as remote as any other program on the
machine, more remote in most cases.


You can perform process of registry cleaning either manually
or by using any effective registry cleaner software.. Make sure that
you have sound technical knowledge about registry before trying it
manually. For non technical users, registry repair softwares are
recommended...






Silly boilerplate snipped.
...

A little further reading on the subject:


That's not reading: It's SPAM!

Why I don't use registry cleaners
http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=643

We all know why YOU don't use registry cleaners.
Self serving article contrinbuted to by ... guess who? And I don't mean
me!

AumHa Forums . View topic - AUMHA Discussion: Should I Use a Registry
Cleaner?
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099


Same thing. Spamming for his favorite place to get authored. You don't
have to be accurate to post your spews there, just willing to help
perpetuate their crappiness.


Regards,

Twayne






 




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