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BillW50
It's amazing how many people find BillW50 to be an annoying fool.
BillW50: should check the library for this book How To Win Friends and Influence People I doubt if it will help, but you don't have much to lose. In , Blue typed: BillW50 wrote: In , Blue typed: BillW50 wrote: "Blue" wrote in message ... BillW50 wrote: "Blue" wrote in message ... BillW50 wrote: "Bob Henson" wrote in message ... On 05/03/2014 1:38 PM, BillW50 wrote: "Adam Kubias" wrote in message ... On 2014-03-04 9:34 PM, Windows8 User wrote: BillW50 wrote: "Blue" wrote in message ... BillW50 wrote: "Bob Henson" wrote in message ... On 05/03/2014 1:38 PM, BillW50 wrote: "Adam Kubias" wrote in message "Johnny" wrote in message ... On 03/05/2014 02:23 PM, Blue wrote: Wildman wrote: On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 15:00:59 +0100, Blue wrote: |
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BillW50
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Zaky Waky typed: It's amazing how many people find BillW50 to be an annoying fool. BillW50: should check the library for this book How To Win Friends and Influence People I doubt if it will help, but you don't have much to lose. Yeah people who tells the truth are not popular. But people who lies are. That is no big secret as everybody knows the truth hurts. "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~~ Arthur Schopenhauer -- German philosopher (1788 - 1860) -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2 Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2 |
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BillW50
On 3/6/2014 10:16 AM, BillW50 wrote:
In , Zaky Waky typed: It's amazing how many people find BillW50 to be an annoying fool. BillW50: should check the library for this book How To Win Friends and Influence People I doubt if it will help, but you don't have much to lose. Yeah people who tells the truth are not popular. But people who lies are. That is no big secret as everybody knows the truth hurts. "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~~ Arthur Schopenhauer -- German philosopher (1788 - 1860) Until they are proven, most of your "truths" are merely "assertions". |
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BillW50
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Alek Trishan typed: On 3/6/2014 10:16 AM, BillW50 wrote: In , Zaky Waky typed: It's amazing how many people find BillW50 to be an annoying fool. BillW50: should check the library for this book How To Win Friends and Influence People I doubt if it will help, but you don't have much to lose. Yeah people who tells the truth are not popular. But people who lies are. That is no big secret as everybody knows the truth hurts. "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~~ Arthur Schopenhauer -- German philosopher (1788 - 1860) Until they are proven, most of your "truths" are merely "assertions". Got any examples? -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2 Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2 |
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BillW50
On 3/6/2014 12:39 PM, BillW50 wrote:
In , Alek Trishan typed: On 3/6/2014 10:16 AM, BillW50 wrote: In , Zaky Waky typed: It's amazing how many people find BillW50 to be an annoying fool. BillW50: should check the library for this book How To Win Friends and Influence People I doubt if it will help, but you don't have much to lose. Yeah people who tells the truth are not popular. But people who lies are. That is no big secret as everybody knows the truth hurts. "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~~ Arthur Schopenhauer -- German philosopher (1788 - 1860) Until they are proven, most of your "truths" are merely "assertions". Got any examples? Hmmm...I went back and read about a dozen of your posts and I owe you an apology! Sorry. |
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BillW50
On 2014-03-06 2:10 PM, Alek Trishan wrote:
On 3/6/2014 12:39 PM, BillW50 wrote: In , Alek Trishan typed: On 3/6/2014 10:16 AM, BillW50 wrote: In , Zaky Waky typed: It's amazing how many people find BillW50 to be an annoying fool. BillW50: should check the library for this book How To Win Friends and Influence People I doubt if it will help, but you don't have much to lose. Yeah people who tells the truth are not popular. But people who lies are. That is no big secret as everybody knows the truth hurts. "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~~ Arthur Schopenhauer -- German philosopher (1788 - 1860) Until they are proven, most of your "truths" are merely "assertions". Got any examples? Hmmm...I went back and read about a dozen of your posts and I owe you an apology! Sorry. It has nothing to do with truth or not truth... It's just an abrasive manner of communication. If the point of communication is to get information across, and the tone of posts causes people to rebel against the information, why bother writing anything at all Bill? |
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BillW50
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Adam Kubias typed: It has nothing to do with truth or not truth... It's just an abrasive manner of communication. What? If the point of communication is to get information across, and the tone of posts causes people to rebel against the information, why bother writing anything at all Bill? Really? So how about a little test to test your theory out, shall we? Let us all tar and feather your butt and see if you are abrasive or not. And if you hold up to this test, I bow my head to you. Is it a deal? -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2 Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2 |
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BillW50
Adam Kubias wrote:
If the point of communication is to get information across, and the tone of posts causes people to rebel against the information, why bother writing anything at all Bill? Depends on whether you feel compelled to coddle other users while dispensing information to them. A curmudgeon that doles out help is still helping but isn't interested in stroking thin-skinned egos. Some posters are so frail that if you don't coddle them and are neutral so to appear even slimly abrasive that they get offended. They want their mommy to kiss their boo boo. I, and others, don't kiss ass here. They're getting FREE help from unpaid volunteers from a worldwide community which means they will experience a wide range of persona. |
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BillW50
On 3/6/2014 3:24 PM, BillW50 wrote:
In , Adam Kubias typed: It has nothing to do with truth or not truth... It's just an abrasive manner of communication. What? If the point of communication is to get information across, and the tone of posts causes people to rebel against the information, why bother writing anything at all Bill? Really? So how about a little test to test your theory out, shall we? Let us all tar and feather your butt and see if you are abrasive or not. And if you hold up to this test, I bow my head to you. Is it a deal? So the problem is that Bill can't take criticism? C'mon, Bill. Ease up. If you don't like what people are saying and are not inclined to change, just ignore them. Do NOT respond in kind and just add fuel to the fire. It just keeps going and going and going and in the end, no one wins. The DEL button is a marvelous tool. :-) |
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BillW50
On 3/6/2014 4:22 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Adam Kubias wrote: If the point of communication is to get information across, and the tone of posts causes people to rebel against the information, why bother writing anything at all Bill? Depends on whether you feel compelled to coddle other users while dispensing information to them. A curmudgeon that doles out help is still helping but isn't interested in stroking thin-skinned egos. Some posters are so frail that if you don't coddle them and are neutral so to appear even slimly abrasive that they get offended. They want their mommy to kiss their boo boo. I, and others, don't kiss ass here. They're getting FREE help from unpaid volunteers from a worldwide community which means they will experience a wide range of persona. Isn't there a difference between coddling and just being polite? Why should anyone who is helping be abrasive? That's the antithesis of being helpful! If you're providing help just to stoke your own ego and have to lord it over the ignorant, you might think about what's wrong in your life. Cheers! |
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BillW50
On 2014-03-06 5:21 PM, Alek Trishan wrote:
On 3/6/2014 4:22 PM, VanguardLH wrote: Adam Kubias wrote: If the point of communication is to get information across, and the tone of posts causes people to rebel against the information, why bother writing anything at all Bill? Depends on whether you feel compelled to coddle other users while dispensing information to them. A curmudgeon that doles out help is still helping but isn't interested in stroking thin-skinned egos. Some posters are so frail that if you don't coddle them and are neutral so to appear even slimly abrasive that they get offended. They want their mommy to kiss their boo boo. I, and others, don't kiss ass here. They're getting FREE help from unpaid volunteers from a worldwide community which means they will experience a wide range of persona. Isn't there a difference between coddling and just being polite? Why should anyone who is helping be abrasive? That's the antithesis of being helpful! If you're providing help just to stoke your own ego and have to lord it over the ignorant, you might think about what's wrong in your life. Cheers! +1 |
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BillW50
On 2014-03-06 3:24 PM, BillW50 wrote:
In , Adam Kubias typed: It has nothing to do with truth or not truth... It's just an abrasive manner of communication. What? If the point of communication is to get information across, and the tone of posts causes people to rebel against the information, why bother writing anything at all Bill? Really? So how about a little test to test your theory out, shall we? Let us all tar and feather your butt and see if you are abrasive or not. And if you hold up to this test, I bow my head to you. Is it a deal? That doesn't make sense to me. |
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BillW50
On 2014-03-06 5:29 PM, Adam Kubias wrote:
On 2014-03-06 3:24 PM, BillW50 wrote: In , Adam Kubias typed: It has nothing to do with truth or not truth... It's just an abrasive manner of communication. What? If the point of communication is to get information across, and the tone of posts causes people to rebel against the information, why bother writing anything at all Bill? Really? So how about a little test to test your theory out, shall we? Let us all tar and feather your butt and see if you are abrasive or not. And if you hold up to this test, I bow my head to you. Is it a deal? That doesn't make sense to me. Oh wait, I get it now. You are saying that you are only abrasive when you are pilloried about town. I understand that, to a certain extent. I don't know you or your posts enough to know if it is true, but I will take your word for it. I like to live by "Grace under Pressure" so I'm sure I'll be ok. Tar and Feather away! |
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BillW50
Alek Trishan wrote:
On 3/6/2014 4:22 PM, VanguardLH wrote: Adam Kubias wrote: If the point of communication is to get information across, and the tone of posts causes people to rebel against the information, why bother writing anything at all Bill? Depends on whether you feel compelled to coddle other users while dispensing information to them. ... They're getting FREE help from unpaid volunteers from a worldwide community which means they will experience a wide range of persona. Isn't there a difference between coddling and just being polite? Why should anyone who is helping be abrasive? That's the antithesis of being helpful! I've found being neutral in a reply can offend others who think I'm supposed to placate their ego. Say you tell them a product won't do what they want. It's a fact. They get perturbed at you for telling them. If a user is spamming, yes, I'll be abrasive in telling them not to spam, like adding a signature regarding their choice of anti-virus software or whose Usenet service they use. I'm not going to pretend I'm blind to their spam. Then there are the folks that think there is a magic bullet that with a simple mouse click will fix their problem. When you ask them to try safe mode in IE or Windows or Thunderbird or to do other diagnostics, they aren't interested in actually solving the problem so you wonder why they chose to waste your time. So, yes, for those infant tuggers not willing to actually work on the problem then they'll get a retort for being so lazy. Changing a tire on a wheel is easy but it can require some effort. No one is getting paid here so just what is the impetus that they have to be polite (which usually means coddling to salve their ego)? They aren't paying anyone for the help. They're not a customer so "the customer is always right" has no basis here. Have YOU ever found EVERYONE at a helpdesk, IT folks, support center, or wherever you seek help to sugar coat a solution? And that's representing a very small group of paid helpers. Usenet is free help. Usenet is a worldwide mesh network so personalities of all types appear here. And Usenet is an anarchy where you don't get to dictate to anyone. Some chaff must be expected in Usenet; else, use moderated forums for a more cuddly experience. |
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BillW50
On 2014-03-06 6:39 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
4 valid reasons for being abrasive These are all responses to someone who is asking for help. Are you abrasive to those who are not asking for help and not saying anything insulting? I'm an engineer, I'm immune to chaff - but I also recognize that it exists and it can create problems in communication. |
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