Google Menu Bar?

I am using Google Chrome, and want to remove some plug-ins. When I
tried to do that, I quickly discovered that I don't even have a Menu
Bar. I have googled the subject but am getting nowhere.

Can anyone tell me how to get back my Menu Bar? And also - how to
examine plug-ins and delete same?

What I really want to do is try to eliminate all these Ads that come
up every time I go to a site on Google.

Thanks

Big Fred

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On 4/1/2014 8:39 PM, wrote:
I am using Google Chrome, and want to remove some plug-ins. When I
tried to do that, I quickly discovered that I don't even have a Menu
Bar. I have googled the subject but am getting nowhere.

Can anyone tell me how to get back my Menu Bar? And also - how to
examine plug-ins and delete same?

What I really want to do is try to eliminate all these Ads that come
up every time I go to a site on Google.

Click on that thing that looks like 3 bars, near the top right of the
browser; I think that's what you're looking for.

BobbyM wrote:

On 4/1/2014 8:39 PM, wrote:
I am using Google Chrome, and want to remove some plug-ins. When I
tried to do that, I quickly discovered that I don't even have a Menu
Bar. I have googled the subject but am getting nowhere.

Can anyone tell me how to get back my Menu Bar? And also - how to
examine plug-ins and delete same?

What I really want to do is try to eliminate all these Ads that come
up every time I go to a site on Google.

Click on that thing that looks like 3 bars, near the top right of the
browser; I think that's what you're looking for.

Many web browsers are embracing the minimal UI to allow more screen real
estate for the site content. For some, you tap the Alt key to bring up
the menu bar. Once you pick a menu entry or click somewhere else, the
menu bar hides. Google decided that, gee, a menu bar along the top even
if only temporarily displayed is just too much screen real estate. They
use a drop-down list shown whn you click on the spanner icon (looks like
3 horizontal bars) or wrench icon. I don't remember which versions used
which version (I discarded Google Chrome for other reasons, including
security which could be better constrained in IE than in Google Chrome).
See:

http://www.ctgcts.com/KB/8972.8973.8...nuSettings.png
http://image.chromefans.org/id4/goog...tools-menu.png

Microsoft phucked up the desktop UI in post-XP Windows and in their
2003+ Office components so Google decided to follow suit. I'm sure to
mislead users into thinking Google came up with a whole new version
they'll also follow Microsoft's lead by changing the UI again sometime
later to pretend it's a new version.

I'm not against change if it promotes ease-of-use and increase
productivity but the UI changes I've seen in various products in the
last few years have failed. More mouse clicks or more wandering to find
a function rather than categorize it will fail.It's just change for
change sake. It's a con job to pretend it's a major new version. GUI
changes do not qualify as major or even minor version changes. They
merely qualify to upping the learning curve.

"I know engineers. They love to change things."
(Star Trek - The Movie, Leonard McCoy)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0W852wflMA, 1:24 timemark

VanguardLH wrote, On 4/1/2014 8:37 PM:

Microsoft phucked up the desktop UI in post-XP Windows and in their
2003+ Office components so Google decided to follow suit. I'm sure to
mislead users into thinking Google came up with a whole new version
they'll also follow Microsoft's lead by changing the UI again sometime
later to pretend it's a new version.

Could be 'tiled' options in Google's future g like Win8...though that
would be a return to the 1990's. AOL was one of the first web UI to use
a tile type 'menu'

I'm not against change if it promotes ease-of-use and increase
productivity but the UI changes I've seen in various products in the
last few years have failed. More mouse clicks or more wandering to find
a function rather than categorize it will fail.It's just change for
change sake. It's a con job to pretend it's a major new version. GUI
changes do not qualify as major or even minor version changes. They
merely qualify to upping the learning curve.

I'm not convinced it's 'change for change sake' since 'let your fingers,
not mouse, do the walking' for smart devices is becoming the norm for
the most recent (or last two) generations. Afaics, as the infrastructure
for faster internet access continues to improve (especially in the
largest population center - Asia and the Pacific basin) more 'touch'
type UI across all devices is inevitable for everyone on the consumer side.



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msft mvp consumer apps

....winston wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

I'm not against change if it promotes ease-of-use and increase
productivity but the UI changes I've seen in various products in the
last few years have failed. More mouse clicks or more wandering to find
a function rather than categorize it will fail.It's just change for
change sake.

I'm not convinced it's 'change for change sake' since 'let your fingers,
not mouse, do the walking' for smart devices is becoming the norm for
the most recent (or last two) generations. Afaics, as the infrastructure
for faster internet access continues to improve (especially in the
largest population center - Asia and the Pacific basin) more 'touch'
type UI across all devices is inevitable for everyone on the consumer side.

So it's dumbing down the UI to accommodate the lowest common denominator
of toy computers. I see you focused on the mouse instead of the
keyboard probably users have been devolving in their profiency of that
input method.

VanguardLH wrote, On 4/2/2014 3:42 AM:
...winston wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

I'm not against change if it promotes ease-of-use and increase
productivity but the UI changes I've seen in various products in the
last few years have failed. More mouse clicks or more wandering to find
a function rather than categorize it will fail.It's just change for
change sake.

I'm not convinced it's 'change for change sake' since 'let your fingers,
not mouse, do the walking' for smart devices is becoming the norm for
the most recent (or last two) generations. Afaics, as the infrastructure
for faster internet access continues to improve (especially in the
largest population center - Asia and the Pacific basin) more 'touch'
type UI across all devices is inevitable for everyone on the consumer side.

So it's dumbing down the UI to accommodate the lowest common denominator
of toy computers. I see you focused on the mouse instead of the
keyboard probably users have been devolving in their profiency of that
input method.


Dumbing down/toy is one opinion but for the most part becoming more
narrow since the user base holding that perception is also diminishing.

The declination of the keyboard started years ago. Even though the mouse
was invented years prior its use remained relatively obscure/ambiguous
until 1984 when Apple introduced it with a version of the Mac thereafter
becoming the preferred device for navigation on pcs (including Windows)
instead of the keyboard. The 'touch' design for devices is just another
step in that same evolution.

Even the diehard keyboard preferred user base has proven adaptive to use
of the mouse and will (not necessarily all but many by choice) also
adapt to the touch capable UI's.

In the long run, its not about the 1995-2009 user base that we are part
of but the last two generations and the next...their disposable
(essential and discretionary) increasing income determines the future
direction...and the billions of potential users for smart devices in the
aforementioned Asian and Pacific basin is the primary population
determining the direction...and one that you, I, and others will adapt
to or forever become the Luddites of tomorrow.



--
...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

On 02/04/2014 19:17, Bob Henson wrote:

How do you envisage people typing in large amounts of data? How will people
write long reports, biographies, novels, Wikipedia articles? Don't tell me
they will use voice technology - it isn't good enough and won't be for a
very long time - if ever. Imagine voice technology trying to sort out your
average teenager - it's got no chance. Fancy writing War and Peace on a
fondleslab virtual keyboard?

The old-fashioned keyboard will be with us for a long time yet - if not
indefinitely. The fondleslab is OK for quick text messages, granny's e-mail
to Australia and those whose literary limit is 140 characters on f*c*book.

Well, of course you are right for things like tablets and smart(?)
phones. Even adding, for example, a proper keyboard to those still won't
help as the screens are too small.

Now envisage a desk /where the whole top is a screen/. But not just a
screen; a touch-sensitive screen. In fact, what you would have is a
horizontal, touch-sensitive screen. So instead of paper documents all
over a desk, and a keyboard, everything is on the screen. No paper, no
keyboard - except a virtual keyboard on the screen. That's not so
far-fetched as it might seem - we already have large TVs, where the
screen size is more-or-less equivalent to the size of the top of an
ordinary desk (and with UHD TV the sort of screen with excellent
detail). We also have large touch-sensitive screens on the way
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrcJdFseAcE).

The keyboard will not be with us indefinitely - the screen will take its
place.

--

Jeff

On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 18:21:26 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 19:17:54 +0100, Bob Henson wrote:

How do you envisage people typing in large amounts of data? How will people
write long reports, biographies, novels, Wikipedia articles? Don't tell me
they will use voice technology - it isn't good enough and won't be for a
very long time - if ever.

I want to agree with you, but in my case with my Samsung Galaxy S3, I can
talk as quickly as I like and it doesn't miss a beat. I don't intentionally
try to trick it*, but I can't remember the last time it transcribed my voice
incorrectly.

*I could tell it the old joke that goes "I have 26 sheep. One dies, how many
do I have left?" Wow, it got that right, as well. BTW, if a person replies
with 25 the answer is 19, and if they respond with 19 the answer is 25.
Obviously.

And, pray tell, what's wrong with 31?

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 19:40:51 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 18:21:26 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 19:17:54 +0100, Bob Henson wrote:

How do you envisage people typing in large amounts of data? How will people
write long reports, biographies, novels, Wikipedia articles? Don't tell me
they will use voice technology - it isn't good enough and won't be for a
very long time - if ever.

I want to agree with you, but in my case with my Samsung Galaxy S3, I can
talk as quickly as I like and it doesn't miss a beat. I don't intentionally
try to trick it*, but I can't remember the last time it transcribed my voice
incorrectly.

*I could tell it the old joke that goes "I have 26 sheep. One dies, how many
do I have left?" Wow, it got that right, as well. BTW, if a person replies
with 25 the answer is 19, and if they respond with 19 the answer is 25.
Obviously.

And, pray tell, what's wrong with 31?

Show your work.

--

Char Jackson

Bob Henson wrote, On 4/2/2014 2:17 PM:
...winston wrote:

VanguardLH wrote, On 4/2/2014 3:42 AM:
...winston wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

I'm not against change if it promotes ease-of-use and increase
productivity but the UI changes I've seen in various products in the
last few years have failed. More mouse clicks or more wandering to find
a function rather than categorize it will fail.It's just change for
change sake.

I'm not convinced it's 'change for change sake' since 'let your fingers,
not mouse, do the walking' for smart devices is becoming the norm for
the most recent (or last two) generations. Afaics, as the infrastructure
for faster internet access continues to improve (especially in the
largest population center - Asia and the Pacific basin) more 'touch'
type UI across all devices is inevitable for everyone on the consumer side.

So it's dumbing down the UI to accommodate the lowest common denominator
of toy computers. I see you focused on the mouse instead of the
keyboard probably users have been devolving in their profiency of that
input method.


Dumbing down/toy is one opinion but for the most part becoming more
narrow since the user base holding that perception is also diminishing.

The declination of the keyboard started years ago. Even though the mouse
was invented years prior its use remained relatively obscure/ambiguous
until 1984 when Apple introduced it with a version of the Mac thereafter
becoming the preferred device for navigation on pcs (including Windows)
instead of the keyboard. The 'touch' design for devices is just another
step in that same evolution.

Even the diehard keyboard preferred user base has proven adaptive to use
of the mouse and will (not necessarily all but many by choice) also
adapt to the touch capable UI's.

In the long run, its not about the 1995-2009 user base that we are part
of but the last two generations and the next...their disposable
(essential and discretionary) increasing income determines the future
direction...and the billions of potential users for smart devices in the
aforementioned Asian and Pacific basin is the primary population
determining the direction...and one that you, I, and others will adapt
to or forever become the Luddites of tomorrow.

How do you envisage people typing in large amounts of data? How will people
write long reports, biographies, novels, Wikipedia articles? Don't tell me
they will use voice technology - it isn't good enough and won't be for a
very long time - if ever. Imagine voice technology trying to sort out your
average teenager - it's got no chance. Fancy writing War and Peace on a
fondleslab virtual keyboard?

The old-fashioned keyboard will be with us for a long time yet - if not
indefinitely. The fondleslab is OK for quick text messages, granny's e-mail
to Australia and those whose literary limit is 140 characters on f*c*book.



Hi Bob,
I carefully avoided stating that the keyboard would become obsolete
only that its use is diminishing due to the preference of other devices.

But the pattern of using the finger to do the walking is replacing the
need to do so via the keyboard and will continue to do so...as noted
above, both you and I will be using the finger...whether it's to
navigate or the proverbial 'up yours' directed at our devices.

--
...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 22:46:23 +0100, Jeff Layman
wrote:

On 02/04/2014 19:17, Bob Henson wrote:

How do you envisage people typing in large amounts of data? How will people
write long reports, biographies, novels, Wikipedia articles? Don't tell me
they will use voice technology - it isn't good enough and won't be for a
very long time - if ever. Imagine voice technology trying to sort out your
average teenager - it's got no chance. Fancy writing War and Peace on a
fondleslab virtual keyboard?

The old-fashioned keyboard will be with us for a long time yet - if not
indefinitely. The fondleslab is OK for quick text messages, granny's e-mail
to Australia and those whose literary limit is 140 characters on f*c*book.

Well, of course you are right for things like tablets and smart(?)
phones. Even adding, for example, a proper keyboard to those still won't
help as the screens are too small.

Now envisage a desk /where the whole top is a screen/. But not just a
screen; a touch-sensitive screen. In fact, what you would have is a
horizontal, touch-sensitive screen. So instead of paper documents all
over a desk, and a keyboard, everything is on the screen. No paper, no
keyboard - except a virtual keyboard on the screen. That's not so
far-fetched as it might seem - we already have large TVs, where the
screen size is more-or-less equivalent to the size of the top of an
ordinary desk (and with UHD TV the sort of screen with excellent
detail). We also have large touch-sensitive screens on the way
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrcJdFseAcE).

Oh god, can you imagine how quickly those things will become dirty to
the point of unusability? I can barely stand to use my tablet after a
half an hour. If I had a desk-monitor I'd be spending more time
cleaning the damn thing then doing actual work.

Not to mention that a flat desk is not the optimal configuration for
typing; you want a slanted surface. And touch-screen keyboards offer
absolutely no feedback to the typist.

When those things inevitably break, you'd have to replace the whole
desk? Not to mention that - even if the businesses do finally go
paperless (as has been predicted for the last fifty years), desks
still need to serve other purposes, such as a place to sit on, hold
coffee, etc. A (comparatively) fragile screen would not stand up to
that sort of abuse.

Desks with embedded screens are not really a new concept (although a
desk-sized touch-screen has only recently become possible, the idea of
a monitor built into the desk was around at least since the '60s); it
was rejected because it is a terrible idea.

Almost as bad as voice-recognition; can you imagine trying to get any
work done in an office where everybody had to speak to input data?
Hell, can you imagine trying to PROGRAM using speech recognition?

While the layout may change a bit, keyboards are likely to remain with
us until we get direct neural inputs (and probably even after that, if
other people's minds are as cluttered as mine).

"Spalls Hurgenson" wrote in message
...
Not to mention that a flat desk is not the optimal configuration for
typing; you want a slanted surface. And touch-screen keyboards offer
absolutely no feedback to the typist.

And it would need to be made of a non-reflective substance. Present tablet
and mobile phone technology uses glass or plastic which suffer from the
problem of specular reflections - you see yourself and the windows and the
room lights reflected in them. A vertical screen can be angled to avoid the
worst of these, but a horizontal one, which would be needed to type on,
would at the very least reflect images of the overhead lights.

On Thu, 03 Apr 2014 10:18:53 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 22:46:23 +0100, Jeff Layman
wrote:

On 02/04/2014 19:17, Bob Henson wrote:

How do you envisage people typing in large amounts of data? How will people
write long reports, biographies, novels, Wikipedia articles? Don't tell me
they will use voice technology - it isn't good enough and won't be for a
very long time - if ever. Imagine voice technology trying to sort out your
average teenager - it's got no chance. Fancy writing War and Peace on a
fondleslab virtual keyboard?

The old-fashioned keyboard will be with us for a long time yet - if not
indefinitely. The fondleslab is OK for quick text messages, granny's e-mail
to Australia and those whose literary limit is 140 characters on f*c*book.

Well, of course you are right for things like tablets and smart(?)
phones. Even adding, for example, a proper keyboard to those still won't
help as the screens are too small.

Now envisage a desk /where the whole top is a screen/. But not just a
screen; a touch-sensitive screen. In fact, what you would have is a
horizontal, touch-sensitive screen. So instead of paper documents all
over a desk, and a keyboard, everything is on the screen. No paper, no
keyboard - except a virtual keyboard on the screen. That's not so
far-fetched as it might seem - we already have large TVs, where the
screen size is more-or-less equivalent to the size of the top of an
ordinary desk (and with UHD TV the sort of screen with excellent
detail). We also have large touch-sensitive screens on the way
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrcJdFseAcE).

Oh god, can you imagine how quickly those things will become dirty to
the point of unusability? I can barely stand to use my tablet after a
half an hour. If I had a desk-monitor I'd be spending more time
cleaning the damn thing then doing actual work.

If (as I do) you drink your coffee black without sugar, I can tell you
that when you spill the coffee, if you wipe it up quickly enough, it
will do a serviceable job of cleaning the screen. And if the screen is
level, the coffee won't even get on your lap.

There is actually a serious fact behind the above: I've found that
straight coffee on a napkin is a pretty good way to clean eyeglasses in
an emergency.

SNIP

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 22:09:31 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 19:40:51 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 18:21:26 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 19:17:54 +0100, Bob Henson wrote:

How do you envisage people typing in large amounts of data? How will people
write long reports, biographies, novels, Wikipedia articles? Don't tell me
they will use voice technology - it isn't good enough and won't be for a
very long time - if ever.

I want to agree with you, but in my case with my Samsung Galaxy S3, I can
talk as quickly as I like and it doesn't miss a beat. I don't intentionally
try to trick it*, but I can't remember the last time it transcribed my voice
incorrectly.

*I could tell it the old joke that goes "I have 26 sheep. One dies, how many
do I have left?" Wow, it got that right, as well. BTW, if a person replies
with 25 the answer is 19, and if they respond with 19 the answer is 25.
Obviously.

And, pray tell, what's wrong with 31?

Show your work.

031 (i.e., 31 octal) = 3*8 + 1 = 25 decimal.

Nyaah, nyaah!

Also :-)

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 23:15:41 -0400, ...winston wrote:

Bob Henson wrote, On 4/2/2014 2:17 PM:
...winston wrote:

VanguardLH wrote, On 4/2/2014 3:42 AM:
...winston wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

I'm not against change if it promotes ease-of-use and increase
productivity but the UI changes I've seen in various products in the
last few years have failed. More mouse clicks or more wandering to find
a function rather than categorize it will fail.It's just change for
change sake.

I'm not convinced it's 'change for change sake' since 'let your fingers,
not mouse, do the walking' for smart devices is becoming the norm for
the most recent (or last two) generations. Afaics, as the infrastructure
for faster internet access continues to improve (especially in the
largest population center - Asia and the Pacific basin) more 'touch'
type UI across all devices is inevitable for everyone on the consumer side.

So it's dumbing down the UI to accommodate the lowest common denominator
of toy computers. I see you focused on the mouse instead of the
keyboard probably users have been devolving in their profiency of that
input method.


Dumbing down/toy is one opinion but for the most part becoming more
narrow since the user base holding that perception is also diminishing.

The declination of the keyboard started years ago. Even though the mouse
was invented years prior its use remained relatively obscure/ambiguous
until 1984 when Apple introduced it with a version of the Mac thereafter
becoming the preferred device for navigation on pcs (including Windows)
instead of the keyboard. The 'touch' design for devices is just another
step in that same evolution.

Even the diehard keyboard preferred user base has proven adaptive to use
of the mouse and will (not necessarily all but many by choice) also
adapt to the touch capable UI's.

In the long run, its not about the 1995-2009 user base that we are part
of but the last two generations and the next...their disposable
(essential and discretionary) increasing income determines the future
direction...and the billions of potential users for smart devices in the
aforementioned Asian and Pacific basin is the primary population
determining the direction...and one that you, I, and others will adapt
to or forever become the Luddites of tomorrow.

How do you envisage people typing in large amounts of data? How will people
write long reports, biographies, novels, Wikipedia articles? Don't tell me
they will use voice technology - it isn't good enough and won't be for a
very long time - if ever. Imagine voice technology trying to sort out your
average teenager - it's got no chance. Fancy writing War and Peace on a
fondleslab virtual keyboard?

The old-fashioned keyboard will be with us for a long time yet - if not
indefinitely. The fondleslab is OK for quick text messages, granny's e-mail
to Australia and those whose literary limit is 140 characters on f*c*book.



Hi Bob,
I carefully avoided stating that the keyboard would become obsolete
only that its use is diminishing due to the preference of other devices.

But the pattern of using the finger to do the walking is replacing the
need to do so via the keyboard and will continue to do so...as noted
above, both you and I will be using the finger...whether it's to
navigate or the proverbial 'up yours' directed at our devices.

The latter item will *never* go away, IMHO :-)

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)