Lack of free space, new machine.

On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 06:36:42 -0700, Phil wrote:

Sharon thank you for your input!
I have done all you suggested, the file hiberfil.sys.
does not show any where? BTW it is not a Laptop.
Reduced cache sizes, and removed all temp file contents-
rebooted, but defraganalyse still show the same disk
usage? the biggest in add/remove is AutoRoute V11.0 @
about 933,000MB but i need that, and all others in there,
i have the same things installed on my W98 machine.
Where to next?
Why are you not in Seattle? :-)

If it's not a laptop that needs battery life protected, you can easily do
without hibernation and the accompanying hiberfil.sys file. Hibernation may
already be disabled (or is not available) and that would explain why
there's no sign of the file after showing hidden and system protected files
and folder.

Hang onto AutoRoute, it's only a GB of space and you use it.

Other space grabbers: Do you have Norton's Protected Recycle Bin installed?
If yes, check that it's not stashing up deleted files. On an oddball chance
that there may be a few chkdsk files hanging around, search for *.chk
files.

Seattle travel plans canceled when I couldn't find a replacement dog sitter
for my elderly black lab. Thanks for asking :^)

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User

On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 06:36:42 -0700, Phil wrote:

Sharon thank you for your input!
I have done all you suggested, the file hiberfil.sys.
does not show any where? BTW it is not a Laptop.
Reduced cache sizes, and removed all temp file contents-
rebooted, but defraganalyse still show the same disk
usage? the biggest in add/remove is AutoRoute V11.0 @
about 933,000MB but i need that, and all others in there,
i have the same things installed on my W98 machine.
Where to next?
Why are you not in Seattle? :-)

If it's not a laptop that needs battery life protected, you can easily do
without hibernation and the accompanying hiberfil.sys file. Hibernation may
already be disabled (or is not available) and that would explain why
there's no sign of the file after showing hidden and system protected files
and folder.

Hang onto AutoRoute, it's only a GB of space and you use it.

Other space grabbers: Do you have Norton's Protected Recycle Bin installed?
If yes, check that it's not stashing up deleted files. On an oddball chance
that there may be a few chkdsk files hanging around, search for *.chk
files.

Seattle travel plans canceled when I couldn't find a replacement dog sitter
for my elderly black lab. Thanks for asking :^)

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User

On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 22:38:42 +0100, Phil wrote:

working in this KB article-
http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=winxp

where?? do i find the following. Options in which program please?
1.. Start Ntbackup.exe, click Options on the Tools menu, click the Backup
Log tab, and then click Detailed.
2.. Click the Backup tab, back up the entire volume that is affected (in
this example, drive D), and then start the backup procedure.

Using XP Pro? Should find Backup (NTBackup) under System Tools in the Start
menu. When you start NTBackup, you should see a menu bar along the top. One
of the available menus is Tools and Options is underneath that. If you get
this far, the rest falls into place.

Question: The procedure from this article says to create a full backup. You
can delete the backup later as the object is to get a complete file list
from the backup log file. Where are you going to store that backup set?
There is no compression with NTBackup (except, I think, maybe with tape
backup).

If you have XP Home, it is a separate installation - not included as a
Windows component. It is in the ValueAdd folder on the XP Home CD:

HOW TO: Install Backup from the CD-ROM in Windows XP Home Edition
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=302894

Suggestion:
May want to take a look at these two very small (and free) programs
TreeSize and FileList from:
http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml

I think FileList will accomplish the same thing that the MS Knowledge Base
article is trying to do : create a filelist. Don't know if it can reach
beyond permissions as NTBackup though.

Treesize can help to show what files/folders are carrying the bulk of the
missing space.

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User

"Plato" |@|.| wrote in message
...

EasyCleaner | Space Usage
http://ptm2.cc.utu.fi/ftp/windows/tools/EClea1_7.exe

That tells me that I have 84% free space?
Good grief!!!! :-)

-----Original Message-----
Phil,
Try this.
Go to Start, search, choose "all files and folders".
In the box labeled "all or part of the file name" type *
Click on "What size it it?"
Select "Specify size (in KB)"
In the first drop down, select" at least"
In the second drop down type 100000
Scroll down and select "more advanced options"
Check the box labeled "search hidden files and folders"
Now click the Search button.
After the search completes, go to view on the top
toolbar and select
"details", then arrange icons by size.
Look for the largest files and let us know what you find.


Select "more advanced options"

ABOVE SEARCH CRITERIA:
With protected sys files showing:
pagefile 786,432kb
EURART 125,000KB
EUR CD 626,896KB
Looks like a ghost :-))
BTW no Norton on here

-----Original Message-----
Phil,
Try this.
Go to Start, search, choose "all files and folders".
In the box labeled "all or part of the file name" type *
Click on "What size it it?"
Select "Specify size (in KB)"
In the first drop down, select" at least"
In the second drop down type 100000
Scroll down and select "more advanced options"
Check the box labeled "search hidden files and folders"
Now click the Search button.
After the search completes, go to view on the top
toolbar and select
"details", then arrange icons by size.
Look for the largest files and let us know what you find.


Select "more advanced options"

ABOVE SEARCH CRITERIA:
With protected sys files showing:
pagefile 786,432kb
EURART 125,000KB
EUR CD 626,896KB
Looks like a ghost :-))
BTW no Norton on here

On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 22:46:02 +0100, Phil wrote:

Result
From a command prompt, send the output of a dir /a /s to a text file.

anyone see anything here please?

Directory of C:\Documents and Settings\Phil\My Documents\Ulead VideoStudio

Check with Ulead about this program. Someone else posted this week about a
problem with it... I think they were uninstalling and having some trouble
getting back disk space but can't recall exactly. Sorry my memory's hazy on
the details and sorry if it's a false lead.

Question: Do you know if you have a hidden partition on that drive with the
OEM recovery files?

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User

"Sharon F" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 22:46:02 +0100, Phil wrote:
Check with Ulead about this program. Someone else posted this week about a
problem with it... I think they were uninstalling and having some trouble
getting back disk space but can't recall exactly. Sorry my memory's hazy
on
the details and sorry if it's a false lead.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?E2F514FE7
Not as much space as i 'seem' to be missing?


Question: Do you know if you have a hidden partition on that drive with
the
OEM recovery files?

Not that i know of?
BTW i am stuck with what command prompt to use in the filelist application
you suggested?

On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 23:54:49 +0100, Phil wrote:

BTW i am stuck with what command prompt to use in the filelist application
you suggested?

Place filelist and its DLL into the Windows folder. Open a command prompt
window (CMD.EXE) and try:

FILELIST C: list.csv

The resulting file will show up in Documents and Settings\your account

It can be imported to Excel or a similar program. Most database and
spreadsheet programs allow you to sort a column by numerical value.

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User

"Sharon F" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 23:54:49 +0100, Phil wrote:

BTW i am stuck with what command prompt to use in the filelist
application
you suggested?

Place filelist and its DLL into the Windows folder. Open a command prompt
window (CMD.EXE) and try:

FILELIST C: list.csv

The resulting file will show up in Documents and Settings\your account

It can be imported to Excel or a similar program. Most database and
spreadsheet programs allow you to sort a column by numerical value.

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User

Thanks but i had worked ot out eventually :-)
It shows a total of 2056321415.00 bytes.
Did you see the result i got with the EasyCleaner | Space Usage
http://ptm2.cc.utu.fi/ftp/windows/tools/EClea1_7.exe

That tells me that I have 84% free space?
I removed autoroute, that gave me an extra 1% disk space :-(

working in this KB article-
http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=winxp

where?? do i find the following. Options in which program please?
1.. Start Ntbackup.exe, click Options on the Tools menu, click the Backup
Log tab, and then click Detailed.
2.. Click the Backup tab, back up the entire volume that is affected (in
this example, drive D), and then start the backup procedure.

working in this KB article-
http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=winxp

where?? do i find the following. Options in which program please?
1.. Start Ntbackup.exe, click Options on the Tools menu, click the Backup
Log tab, and then click Detailed.
2.. Click the Backup tab, back up the entire volume that is affected (in
this example, drive D), and then start the backup procedure.

using KB article:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=winxp

C:\Documents and Settings\Philchkdsk c:
The type of the file system is NTFS.

WARNING! F parameter not specified.
Running CHKDSK in read-only mode.

CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)...
File verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)...
Index verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)...
Security descriptor verification completed.
Correcting errors in the Volume Bitmap.
Windows found problems with the file system.
Run CHKDSK with the /F (fix) option to correct these.

80027765 KB total disk space.
56576232 KB in 297148 files.
71336 KB in 1994 indexes.
0 KB in bad sectors.
373285 KB in use by the system.
65536 KB occupied by the log file.
23006912 KB available on disk.

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
20006941 total allocation units on disk.
5751728 allocation units available on disk.

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C:\Documents and Settings\Philchkdsk /F
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Cannot lock current drive.

Chkdsk cannot run because the volume is in use by another
process. Would you like to schedule this volume to be
checked the next time the system restarts? (Y/N)

------------------------------
Selected Y - rebooting.
Result after chkdsk /f
---

80027765 KB total disk space.
56574760 KB in 297030 files.
71336 KB in 1994 indexes.
0 KB in bad sectors.
373285 KB in use by the system.
65536 KB occupied by the log file.
23008384 KB available on disk.

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
20006941 total allocation units on disk.
5752096 allocation units available on disk.
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I see only three changes:

56576232 KB in 297148 files. (1st run)
56574760 KB in 297030 files. (2nd run)
---
23006912 KB available on disk. (1st run)
23008384 KB available on disk. (2nd run)
---
5751728 allocation units available on disk. (1st run)
5752096 allocation units available on disk. (2nd run)
----------
Drive C: ERDNT Properties
Size 4.21 GB (4,523,535,926 bytes)
Size on disk 4.08 GB (4,389,797,639 bytes)
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Phil wrote:

I note that on a 80GB drive I only have 28% free space,
after a month of use?
Where to look to determine the "hog"

EasyCleaner | Space Usage
http://ptm2.cc.utu.fi/ftp/windows/tools/EClea1_7.exe


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http://www.bootdisk.com/

using KB article:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=winxp

C:\Documents and Settings\Philchkdsk c:
The type of the file system is NTFS.

WARNING! F parameter not specified.
Running CHKDSK in read-only mode.

CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)...
File verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)...
Index verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)...
Security descriptor verification completed.
Correcting errors in the Volume Bitmap.
Windows found problems with the file system.
Run CHKDSK with the /F (fix) option to correct these.

80027765 KB total disk space.
56576232 KB in 297148 files.
71336 KB in 1994 indexes.
0 KB in bad sectors.
373285 KB in use by the system.
65536 KB occupied by the log file.
23006912 KB available on disk.

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
20006941 total allocation units on disk.
5751728 allocation units available on disk.

------------
C:\Documents and Settings\Philchkdsk /F
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Cannot lock current drive.

Chkdsk cannot run because the volume is in use by another
process. Would you like to schedule this volume to be
checked the next time the system restarts? (Y/N)

------------------------------
Selected Y - rebooting.
Result after chkdsk /f
---

80027765 KB total disk space.
56574760 KB in 297030 files.
71336 KB in 1994 indexes.
0 KB in bad sectors.
373285 KB in use by the system.
65536 KB occupied by the log file.
23008384 KB available on disk.

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
20006941 total allocation units on disk.
5752096 allocation units available on disk.
------------------
I see only three changes:

56576232 KB in 297148 files. (1st run)
56574760 KB in 297030 files. (2nd run)
---
23006912 KB available on disk. (1st run)
23008384 KB available on disk. (2nd run)
---
5751728 allocation units available on disk. (1st run)
5752096 allocation units available on disk. (2nd run)
----------
Drive C: ERDNT Properties
Size 4.21 GB (4,523,535,926 bytes)
Size on disk 4.08 GB (4,389,797,639 bytes)
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