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  #256  
Old April 16th 04, 01:35 AM
Phil
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"Plato" |@|.| wrote in message
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EasyCleaner | Space Usage
http://ptm2.cc.utu.fi/ftp/windows/tools/EClea1_7.exe


That tells me that I have 84% free space?
Good grief!!!! :-)


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  #257  
Old April 16th 04, 01:41 AM
Sharon F
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On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 22:46:02 +0100, Phil wrote:

Result
From a command prompt, send the output of a dir /a /s to a text file.

anyone see anything here please?


Directory of C:\Documents and Settings\Phil\My Documents\Ulead VideoStudio


Check with Ulead about this program. Someone else posted this week about a
problem with it... I think they were uninstalling and having some trouble
getting back disk space but can't recall exactly. Sorry my memory's hazy on
the details and sorry if it's a false lead.

Question: Do you know if you have a hidden partition on that drive with the
OEM recovery files?

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Sharon F
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  #258  
Old April 16th 04, 01:50 AM
Phil
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"Sharon F" wrote in message
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On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 22:46:02 +0100, Phil wrote:
Check with Ulead about this program. Someone else posted this week about a
problem with it... I think they were uninstalling and having some trouble
getting back disk space but can't recall exactly. Sorry my memory's hazy

on
the details and sorry if it's a false lead.


http://makeashorterlink.com/?E2F514FE7
Not as much space as i 'seem' to be missing?


Question: Do you know if you have a hidden partition on that drive with

the
OEM recovery files?


Not that i know of?
BTW i am stuck with what command prompt to use in the filelist application
you suggested?


  #259  
Old April 16th 04, 01:54 AM
Sharon F
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On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 23:54:49 +0100, Phil wrote:

BTW i am stuck with what command prompt to use in the filelist application
you suggested?


Place filelist and its DLL into the Windows folder. Open a command prompt
window (CMD.EXE) and try:

FILELIST C: list.csv

The resulting file will show up in Documents and Settings\your account

It can be imported to Excel or a similar program. Most database and
spreadsheet programs allow you to sort a column by numerical value.

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Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User
  #260  
Old April 16th 04, 01:57 AM
Phil
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"Sharon F" wrote in message
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On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 23:54:49 +0100, Phil wrote:

BTW i am stuck with what command prompt to use in the filelist

application
you suggested?


Place filelist and its DLL into the Windows folder. Open a command prompt
window (CMD.EXE) and try:

FILELIST C: list.csv

The resulting file will show up in Documents and Settings\your account

It can be imported to Excel or a similar program. Most database and
spreadsheet programs allow you to sort a column by numerical value.

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User


Thanks but i had worked ot out eventually :-)
It shows a total of 2056321415.00 bytes.
Did you see the result i got with the EasyCleaner | Space Usage
http://ptm2.cc.utu.fi/ftp/windows/tools/EClea1_7.exe


That tells me that I have 84% free space?
I removed autoroute, that gave me an extra 1% disk space :-(


  #261  
Old April 16th 04, 02:51 AM
Sharon F
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On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 23:54:49 +0100, Phil wrote:

BTW i am stuck with what command prompt to use in the filelist application
you suggested?


Place filelist and its DLL into the Windows folder. Open a command prompt
window (CMD.EXE) and try:

FILELIST C: list.csv

The resulting file will show up in Documents and Settings\your account

It can be imported to Excel or a similar program. Most database and
spreadsheet programs allow you to sort a column by numerical value.

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User
  #262  
Old April 16th 04, 02:54 AM
Phil
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"Sharon F" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 23:54:49 +0100, Phil wrote:

BTW i am stuck with what command prompt to use in the filelist

application
you suggested?


Place filelist and its DLL into the Windows folder. Open a command prompt
window (CMD.EXE) and try:

FILELIST C: list.csv

The resulting file will show up in Documents and Settings\your account

It can be imported to Excel or a similar program. Most database and
spreadsheet programs allow you to sort a column by numerical value.

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User


Thanks but i had worked ot out eventually :-)
It shows a total of 2056321415.00 bytes.
Did you see the result i got with the EasyCleaner | Space Usage
http://ptm2.cc.utu.fi/ftp/windows/tools/EClea1_7.exe


That tells me that I have 84% free space?
I removed autoroute, that gave me an extra 1% disk space :-(


  #263  
Old April 16th 04, 03:01 AM
Sharon F
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On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 01:17:12 +0100, Phil wrote:

Thanks but i had worked ot out eventually :-)
It shows a total of 2056321415.00 bytes.
Did you see the result i got with the EasyCleaner | Space Usage
http://ptm2.cc.utu.fi/ftp/windows/tools/EClea1_7.exe


That tells me that I have 84% free space?
I removed autoroute, that gave me an extra 1% disk space :-(


If we try hard enough, I bet we could get the rest of that drive filled up
with more free programs for you to try

I hesitate to suggest running chkdsk. If there is a disk problem - physical
or just a sick file system - running this tool could make things worse. On
the other hand, it might straighten out the weird report of free space. If
you have your important data backed up, you may want to give that a try.

Also, might want to try hard drive diagnostic tools. These are available
from the hard drive manufacturers. They go on a floppy. Boot the machine
with the floppy disk and run the tests according to the directions.

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User
  #264  
Old April 16th 04, 03:28 AM
Sharon F
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Default Lack of free space, new machine.

On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 01:17:12 +0100, Phil wrote:

Thanks but i had worked ot out eventually :-)
It shows a total of 2056321415.00 bytes.
Did you see the result i got with the EasyCleaner | Space Usage
http://ptm2.cc.utu.fi/ftp/windows/tools/EClea1_7.exe


That tells me that I have 84% free space?
I removed autoroute, that gave me an extra 1% disk space :-(


If we try hard enough, I bet we could get the rest of that drive filled up
with more free programs for you to try

I hesitate to suggest running chkdsk. If there is a disk problem - physical
or just a sick file system - running this tool could make things worse. On
the other hand, it might straighten out the weird report of free space. If
you have your important data backed up, you may want to give that a try.

Also, might want to try hard drive diagnostic tools. These are available
from the hard drive manufacturers. They go on a floppy. Boot the machine
with the floppy disk and run the tests according to the directions.

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User
  #265  
Old April 16th 04, 04:18 AM
Sharon F
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Default Lack of free space, new machine.

On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 01:17:12 +0100, Phil wrote:

Thanks but i had worked ot out eventually :-)
It shows a total of 2056321415.00 bytes.
Did you see the result i got with the EasyCleaner | Space Usage
http://ptm2.cc.utu.fi/ftp/windows/tools/EClea1_7.exe


That tells me that I have 84% free space?
I removed autoroute, that gave me an extra 1% disk space :-(


If we try hard enough, I bet we could get the rest of that drive filled up
with more free programs for you to try

I hesitate to suggest running chkdsk. If there is a disk problem - physical
or just a sick file system - running this tool could make things worse. On
the other hand, it might straighten out the weird report of free space. If
you have your important data backed up, you may want to give that a try.

Also, might want to try hard drive diagnostic tools. These are available
from the hard drive manufacturers. They go on a floppy. Boot the machine
with the floppy disk and run the tests according to the directions.

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User
  #266  
Old April 17th 04, 08:23 PM
Phil
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"Phil" wrote in message
...
Can you throw any light on this one for me please?

I did a clean up & defrag of XP. (NTFS)

I note that on a 80GB drive I only have 28% free space,
after a month of use?
Where to look to determine the "hog"

My W98 machine, after 6 years, still has 70% free space.
What could cause this?

Volume (C
Volume size = 76.32 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 54.40 GB
Free space = 21.92 GB
Percent free space = 28 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 0 %
File fragmentation = 0 %
Free space fragmentation = 1 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 296,563
Average file size = 330 KB
Total fragmented files = 0
Total excess fragments = 0
Average fragments per file = 1.00

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 768 MB
Total fragments = 1

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 1,985
Fragmented folders = 1
Excess folder fragments = 0

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 297 MB
MFT record count = 300,838
Percent MFT in use = 98 %
Total MFT fragments = 3

----------------------------------------------------------
------------------

Phew!!!
At last - after using TreeSize
http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml
It showed several restore points, two of which where in excess of 21GB!!
the following post then solved it for me:

"You can delete all but the last restore point. Go to StartAll
programsAccessoriesSystem toolsDisk cleanup. Choose any drive for disk
cleanup and when disk cleanup has estimated the files usage, flip to the
"more options" tab and click on clean up under system restore. This will
clean up all but the last restore point."
Anando
Microsoft-MVP for Windows XP

The log now shows 94% free space :-)

I wonder why XP was able to store such large backups when set to a max of
12%?
Thank you to all who contributed!
-------
Volume (C
Volume size = 76.32 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 4.47 GB
Free space = 71.85 GB
Percent free space = 94 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 0 %
File fragmentation = 0 %
Free space fragmentation = 0 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 21,374
Average file size = 233 KB
Total fragmented files = 0
Total excess fragments = 0
Average fragments per file = 1.00

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 768 MB
Total fragments = 1

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 1,400
Fragmented folders = 1
Excess folder fragments = 0

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 297 MB
MFT record count = 22,817
Percent MFT in use = 7 %
Total MFT fragments = 3





  #267  
Old April 17th 04, 11:31 PM
Sharon F
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On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 18:41:24 +0100, Phil wrote:
Phew!!!
At last - after using TreeSize
http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml
It showed several restore points, two of which where in excess of 21GB!!
the following post then solved it for me:

"You can delete all but the last restore point. Go to StartAll
programsAccessoriesSystem toolsDisk cleanup. Choose any drive for disk
cleanup and when disk cleanup has estimated the files usage, flip to the
"more options" tab and click on clean up under system restore. This will
clean up all but the last restore point."
Anando
Microsoft-MVP for Windows XP

The log now shows 94% free space :-)

I wonder why XP was able to store such large backups when set to a max of
12%?
Thank you to all who contributed!


I'm glad you found the missing space, Peter. Enjoy!

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User
  #268  
Old April 18th 04, 07:36 AM
Phil
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"Phil" wrote in message
...
Can you throw any light on this one for me please?

I did a clean up & defrag of XP. (NTFS)

I note that on a 80GB drive I only have 28% free space,
after a month of use?
Where to look to determine the "hog"

My W98 machine, after 6 years, still has 70% free space.
What could cause this?

Volume (C
Volume size = 76.32 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 54.40 GB
Free space = 21.92 GB
Percent free space = 28 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 0 %
File fragmentation = 0 %
Free space fragmentation = 1 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 296,563
Average file size = 330 KB
Total fragmented files = 0
Total excess fragments = 0
Average fragments per file = 1.00

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 768 MB
Total fragments = 1

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 1,985
Fragmented folders = 1
Excess folder fragments = 0

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 297 MB
MFT record count = 300,838
Percent MFT in use = 98 %
Total MFT fragments = 3

----------------------------------------------------------
------------------

Phew!!!
At last - after using TreeSize
http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml
It showed several restore points, two of which where in excess of 21GB!!
the following post then solved it for me:

"You can delete all but the last restore point. Go to StartAll
programsAccessoriesSystem toolsDisk cleanup. Choose any drive for disk
cleanup and when disk cleanup has estimated the files usage, flip to the
"more options" tab and click on clean up under system restore. This will
clean up all but the last restore point."
Anando
Microsoft-MVP for Windows XP

The log now shows 94% free space :-)

I wonder why XP was able to store such large backups when set to a max of
12%?
Thank you to all who contributed!
-------
Volume (C
Volume size = 76.32 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 4.47 GB
Free space = 71.85 GB
Percent free space = 94 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 0 %
File fragmentation = 0 %
Free space fragmentation = 0 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 21,374
Average file size = 233 KB
Total fragmented files = 0
Total excess fragments = 0
Average fragments per file = 1.00

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 768 MB
Total fragments = 1

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 1,400
Fragmented folders = 1
Excess folder fragments = 0

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 297 MB
MFT record count = 22,817
Percent MFT in use = 7 %
Total MFT fragments = 3





  #269  
Old April 18th 04, 09:03 AM
Phil
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"Phil" wrote in message
...
Can you throw any light on this one for me please?

I did a clean up & defrag of XP. (NTFS)

I note that on a 80GB drive I only have 28% free space,
after a month of use?
Where to look to determine the "hog"

My W98 machine, after 6 years, still has 70% free space.
What could cause this?

Volume (C
Volume size = 76.32 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 54.40 GB
Free space = 21.92 GB
Percent free space = 28 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 0 %
File fragmentation = 0 %
Free space fragmentation = 1 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 296,563
Average file size = 330 KB
Total fragmented files = 0
Total excess fragments = 0
Average fragments per file = 1.00

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 768 MB
Total fragments = 1

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 1,985
Fragmented folders = 1
Excess folder fragments = 0

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 297 MB
MFT record count = 300,838
Percent MFT in use = 98 %
Total MFT fragments = 3

----------------------------------------------------------
------------------

Phew!!!
At last - after using TreeSize
http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml
It showed several restore points, two of which where in excess of 21GB!!
the following post then solved it for me:

"You can delete all but the last restore point. Go to StartAll
programsAccessoriesSystem toolsDisk cleanup. Choose any drive for disk
cleanup and when disk cleanup has estimated the files usage, flip to the
"more options" tab and click on clean up under system restore. This will
clean up all but the last restore point."
Anando
Microsoft-MVP for Windows XP

The log now shows 94% free space :-)

I wonder why XP was able to store such large backups when set to a max of
12%?
Thank you to all who contributed!
-------
Volume (C
Volume size = 76.32 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 4.47 GB
Free space = 71.85 GB
Percent free space = 94 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 0 %
File fragmentation = 0 %
Free space fragmentation = 0 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 21,374
Average file size = 233 KB
Total fragmented files = 0
Total excess fragments = 0
Average fragments per file = 1.00

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 768 MB
Total fragments = 1

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 1,400
Fragmented folders = 1
Excess folder fragments = 0

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 297 MB
MFT record count = 22,817
Percent MFT in use = 7 %
Total MFT fragments = 3





  #270  
Old April 18th 04, 09:05 AM
Sharon F
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On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 18:41:24 +0100, Phil wrote:
Phew!!!
At last - after using TreeSize
http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml
It showed several restore points, two of which where in excess of 21GB!!
the following post then solved it for me:

"You can delete all but the last restore point. Go to StartAll
programsAccessoriesSystem toolsDisk cleanup. Choose any drive for disk
cleanup and when disk cleanup has estimated the files usage, flip to the
"more options" tab and click on clean up under system restore. This will
clean up all but the last restore point."
Anando
Microsoft-MVP for Windows XP

The log now shows 94% free space :-)

I wonder why XP was able to store such large backups when set to a max of
12%?
Thank you to all who contributed!


I'm glad you found the missing space, Peter. Enjoy!

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User
 




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