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  #31  
Old May 1st 04, 07:10 AM
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
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I can think of no reason you shouldn't be able to use the same analog phone
line and analog fax modem with Win XP Fax as before you put in ISDN. But
there is no way for me to guess what else has changed on your system that
now prevents it. This is likely a hardware problem which we'd have no way of
solving from here. Is your analog phone line entirely separate from your
ISDN line?
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"Kaz" wrote in message
...
Hi Sorry I have been flat out working and got a few moments tonight to

check back with you.
Yes there is an analogue modem, its built in to the PC and I do have a

phone cable plugged into this.
As I mentioned I used to use this before the Wireless access Point was set

up on the PC. I also had ISDN connected then, about the only difference is
this Access Point.

I have the usual set up on the ISDN, two cables which run from the phone

companies ISDN point on the wall, to the ISDN unit. Then a third that plugs
to the PC by USB and provides the Internet etc.

The Phone cable thats plugged into the Modem within my PC is the standard

phone or modem cable. I can see my Analogue modem listed in Device manager,
the driver is there and it seems to test OK when you ask it to comunicate
with the system. How ever it now bumps me offline if I do attempt to query
it which is also something that didnt happen previously even with the ISDN
before Wireless was set up.

The Wireless Access uses one cable currently, as its a router which is

really only being used as an access point, and that cable goes from the
Routers LAN to the LAN on the PC.

Its got me Stumped, and in a pickle as Its something I do rely on due to

working from home.

I am convinced its something to do with this new set up we have, as things

go the Router is rightly designed for Broadband or cable and was not meant
for an ISDN. Not unlike the ISDN working fine with the other internal modem
still connected to the a phone line. When I first connected with that 7
months ago, several people at telstra had told me that I wouldnt be able to
use XP fax with it either, but I found you could as long as you didnt plug
directly into the ISDN box and only into the PC's internal modem connection.

I dont know, maybe I have just been snagging these set ups until now and

managing to do things that technically shouldnt be happening "I am Blonde by
the way" LOL.
anyway thanks again for your help
Kaz



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  #32  
Old May 1st 04, 08:32 AM
Kaz
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Hi Sorry I have been flat out working and got a few moments tonight to check back with you.
Yes there is an analogue modem, its built in to the PC and I do have a phone cable plugged into this.
As I mentioned I used to use this before the Wireless access Point was set up on the PC. I also had ISDN connected then, about the only difference is this Access Point.

I have the usual set up on the ISDN, two cables which run from the phone companies ISDN point on the wall, to the ISDN unit. Then a third that plugs to the PC by USB and provides the Internet etc.

The Phone cable thats plugged into the Modem within my PC is the standard phone or modem cable. I can see my Analogue modem listed in Device manager, the driver is there and it seems to test OK when you ask it to comunicate with the system. How ever it no
w bumps me offline if I do attempt to query it which is also something that didnt happen previously even with the ISDN before Wireless was set up.

The Wireless Access uses one cable currently, as its a router which is really only being used as an access point, and that cable goes from the Routers LAN to the LAN on the PC.

Its got me Stumped, and in a pickle as Its something I do rely on due to working from home.

I am convinced its something to do with this new set up we have, as things go the Router is rightly designed for Broadband or cable and was not meant for an ISDN. Not unlike the ISDN working fine with the other internal modem still connected to the a phon
e line. When I first connected with that 7 months ago, several people at telstra had told me that I wouldnt be able to use XP fax with it either, but I found you could as long as you didnt plug directly into the ISDN box and only into the PC's internal mo
dem connection.

I dont know, maybe I have just been snagging these set ups until now and managing to do things that technically shouldnt be happening "I am Blonde by the way" LOL.
anyway thanks again for your help
Kaz
  #33  
Old May 1st 04, 08:35 AM
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
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Default "Using XP Home Fax utility after setting up a network"

I can think of no reason you shouldn't be able to use the same analog phone
line and analog fax modem with Win XP Fax as before you put in ISDN. But
there is no way for me to guess what else has changed on your system that
now prevents it. This is likely a hardware problem which we'd have no way of
solving from here. Is your analog phone line entirely separate from your
ISDN line?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kaz" wrote in message
...
Hi Sorry I have been flat out working and got a few moments tonight to

check back with you.
Yes there is an analogue modem, its built in to the PC and I do have a

phone cable plugged into this.
As I mentioned I used to use this before the Wireless access Point was set

up on the PC. I also had ISDN connected then, about the only difference is
this Access Point.

I have the usual set up on the ISDN, two cables which run from the phone

companies ISDN point on the wall, to the ISDN unit. Then a third that plugs
to the PC by USB and provides the Internet etc.

The Phone cable thats plugged into the Modem within my PC is the standard

phone or modem cable. I can see my Analogue modem listed in Device manager,
the driver is there and it seems to test OK when you ask it to comunicate
with the system. How ever it now bumps me offline if I do attempt to query
it which is also something that didnt happen previously even with the ISDN
before Wireless was set up.

The Wireless Access uses one cable currently, as its a router which is

really only being used as an access point, and that cable goes from the
Routers LAN to the LAN on the PC.

Its got me Stumped, and in a pickle as Its something I do rely on due to

working from home.

I am convinced its something to do with this new set up we have, as things

go the Router is rightly designed for Broadband or cable and was not meant
for an ISDN. Not unlike the ISDN working fine with the other internal modem
still connected to the a phone line. When I first connected with that 7
months ago, several people at telstra had told me that I wouldnt be able to
use XP fax with it either, but I found you could as long as you didnt plug
directly into the ISDN box and only into the PC's internal modem connection.

I dont know, maybe I have just been snagging these set ups until now and

managing to do things that technically shouldnt be happening "I am Blonde by
the way" LOL.
anyway thanks again for your help
Kaz



  #34  
Old May 2nd 04, 08:42 PM
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
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Default "Using XP Home Fax utility after setting up a network"

I'm getting lost here. How many changes were made to your setup and at what
point did you first encounter fax problems? It sounds like you were able to
use fax fine with ISDN, but only ran into trouble after a wireless network
was installed. Is that right?
Most faxing operations begin the same way printing does, with a rendering of
the document; so fax may well be looking for a print routine.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kaz" wrote in message
...
Hi Russ

Yes the anolog phone line is a separate phone connection using the

standard phone cable but the two pin version as I was told they are best for
Pc's and have never possed as any problem in the past. The phone cable runs
from the outlet that telstra installed using the standard phone line
sockets, the ISDN runs from the same point but from the ISDN sockets so I
have four sockets in all, 2 ordinary phone line sockets and two ISDN
sockets. ISDN has been on for 6 months and since networking or setting up
the access point the fax has always worked with out any problems. I dont
plug my phone cables into the ISDN modem as it confuses the daylights out of
it and it tends to run as a 56k modem if I do. I plug the phone line for
the fax directly to the back of the PC (Internal Modem).
I think I just need to sort out if I did configure something durring

setting the access point up that has caused the fax to stop, or from what I
can see or understand from the error messages I receive is that its unable
to locat the "Printer" when I do attempt to open the fax. I dont think it
should be looking for a printer when I attempt to open the fax utility, so I
am starting to think there is nothing wrong with the hardware, its more than
likely something I did setting up, but I just dont know what to look for
aside the obvious stuff that I have already checked out.
any way thanks again
Kaz



  #35  
Old May 2nd 04, 08:42 PM
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
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Default "Using XP Home Fax utility after setting up a network"

I'm getting lost here. How many changes were made to your setup and at what
point did you first encounter fax problems? It sounds like you were able to
use fax fine with ISDN, but only ran into trouble after a wireless network
was installed. Is that right?
Most faxing operations begin the same way printing does, with a rendering of
the document; so fax may well be looking for a print routine.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kaz" wrote in message
...
Hi Russ

Yes the anolog phone line is a separate phone connection using the

standard phone cable but the two pin version as I was told they are best for
Pc's and have never possed as any problem in the past. The phone cable runs
from the outlet that telstra installed using the standard phone line
sockets, the ISDN runs from the same point but from the ISDN sockets so I
have four sockets in all, 2 ordinary phone line sockets and two ISDN
sockets. ISDN has been on for 6 months and since networking or setting up
the access point the fax has always worked with out any problems. I dont
plug my phone cables into the ISDN modem as it confuses the daylights out of
it and it tends to run as a 56k modem if I do. I plug the phone line for
the fax directly to the back of the PC (Internal Modem).
I think I just need to sort out if I did configure something durring

setting the access point up that has caused the fax to stop, or from what I
can see or understand from the error messages I receive is that its unable
to locat the "Printer" when I do attempt to open the fax. I dont think it
should be looking for a printer when I attempt to open the fax utility, so I
am starting to think there is nothing wrong with the hardware, its more than
likely something I did setting up, but I just dont know what to look for
aside the obvious stuff that I have already checked out.
any way thanks again
Kaz



  #36  
Old May 2nd 04, 09:12 PM
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
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Posts: n/a
Default "Using XP Home Fax utility after setting up a network"

I'm getting lost here. How many changes were made to your setup and at what
point did you first encounter fax problems? It sounds like you were able to
use fax fine with ISDN, but only ran into trouble after a wireless network
was installed. Is that right?
Most faxing operations begin the same way printing does, with a rendering of
the document; so fax may well be looking for a print routine.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kaz" wrote in message
...
Hi Russ

Yes the anolog phone line is a separate phone connection using the

standard phone cable but the two pin version as I was told they are best for
Pc's and have never possed as any problem in the past. The phone cable runs
from the outlet that telstra installed using the standard phone line
sockets, the ISDN runs from the same point but from the ISDN sockets so I
have four sockets in all, 2 ordinary phone line sockets and two ISDN
sockets. ISDN has been on for 6 months and since networking or setting up
the access point the fax has always worked with out any problems. I dont
plug my phone cables into the ISDN modem as it confuses the daylights out of
it and it tends to run as a 56k modem if I do. I plug the phone line for
the fax directly to the back of the PC (Internal Modem).
I think I just need to sort out if I did configure something durring

setting the access point up that has caused the fax to stop, or from what I
can see or understand from the error messages I receive is that its unable
to locat the "Printer" when I do attempt to open the fax. I dont think it
should be looking for a printer when I attempt to open the fax utility, so I
am starting to think there is nothing wrong with the hardware, its more than
likely something I did setting up, but I just dont know what to look for
aside the obvious stuff that I have already checked out.
any way thanks again
Kaz



  #37  
Old May 3rd 04, 02:01 PM
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
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Posts: n/a
Default "Using XP Home Fax utility after setting up a network"

I'm getting lost here. How many changes were made to your setup and at what
point did you first encounter fax problems? It sounds like you were able to
use fax fine with ISDN, but only ran into trouble after a wireless network
was installed. Is that right?
Most faxing operations begin the same way printing does, with a rendering of
the document; so fax may well be looking for a print routine.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Kaz" wrote in message
...
Hi Russ

Yes the anolog phone line is a separate phone connection using the

standard phone cable but the two pin version as I was told they are best for
Pc's and have never possed as any problem in the past. The phone cable runs
from the outlet that telstra installed using the standard phone line
sockets, the ISDN runs from the same point but from the ISDN sockets so I
have four sockets in all, 2 ordinary phone line sockets and two ISDN
sockets. ISDN has been on for 6 months and since networking or setting up
the access point the fax has always worked with out any problems. I dont
plug my phone cables into the ISDN modem as it confuses the daylights out of
it and it tends to run as a 56k modem if I do. I plug the phone line for
the fax directly to the back of the PC (Internal Modem).
I think I just need to sort out if I did configure something durring

setting the access point up that has caused the fax to stop, or from what I
can see or understand from the error messages I receive is that its unable
to locat the "Printer" when I do attempt to open the fax. I dont think it
should be looking for a printer when I attempt to open the fax utility, so I
am starting to think there is nothing wrong with the hardware, its more than
likely something I did setting up, but I just dont know what to look for
aside the obvious stuff that I have already checked out.
any way thanks again
Kaz



  #38  
Old May 3rd 04, 08:39 PM
kaz
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Yes thats right I could use the fax with the ISDN before attempting to set up the networking. I did try several times to set that networking up before It was finally configured, I think I tried using the networking wizard but that did not work, all the sa
me I did follow the wizard through as you normally would but it was no help in configuring things as the router we use is really only meant for a cable or broadband. It was not meant to be used with dial up or ISDN which is why it is connected from its La
n to the Networking card in the PC and not connected directly to the ISDN. I do think that I have either selected something durring one of the several attempts that I did make using the windows networking wizard earlier on that has caused the fax problem,
the thing is I just dont know what It is that I have done. To be totally honest about the only thing I do recall doing at one stage durring trying to set up using the windows networking wizard was that I may have selected to share the printer which is al
so connect to the PC, how ever this still operates with out any problems.
the other thing I have found recently is with in the Admin settings under the services etc. When I look at the list of services the one for Fax simply says "STOPPING" not stop or start or disabled, just the word "Stopping".
I can not do anything with this, it will not allow me to start or stop it and when I do try I get an error message back telling me that this has been marked for deletion. I am not sure that this is a normal setting to see listed next to a service and I a
m not sure why I can not change this setting. I am an administrator so there should be no reason why I am unable too configure those settings.
  #39  
Old May 4th 04, 02:39 AM
kaz
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Default "Using XP Home Fax utility after setting up a network"

Yes thats right I could use the fax with the ISDN before attempting to set up the networking. I did try several times to set that networking up before It was finally configured, I think I tried using the networking wizard but that did not work, all the sa
me I did follow the wizard through as you normally would but it was no help in configuring things as the router we use is really only meant for a cable or broadband. It was not meant to be used with dial up or ISDN which is why it is connected from its La
n to the Networking card in the PC and not connected directly to the ISDN. I do think that I have either selected something durring one of the several attempts that I did make using the windows networking wizard earlier on that has caused the fax problem,
the thing is I just dont know what It is that I have done. To be totally honest about the only thing I do recall doing at one stage durring trying to set up using the windows networking wizard was that I may have selected to share the printer which is al
so connect to the PC, how ever this still operates with out any problems.
the other thing I have found recently is with in the Admin settings under the services etc. When I look at the list of services the one for Fax simply says "STOPPING" not stop or start or disabled, just the word "Stopping".
I can not do anything with this, it will not allow me to start or stop it and when I do try I get an error message back telling me that this has been marked for deletion. I am not sure that this is a normal setting to see listed next to a service and I a
m not sure why I can not change this setting. I am an administrator so there should be no reason why I am unable too configure those settings.
  #40  
Old May 4th 04, 03:01 AM
kaz
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Default "Using XP Home Fax utility after setting up a network"

Yes thats right I could use the fax with the ISDN before attempting to set up the networking. I did try several times to set that networking up before It was finally configured, I think I tried using the networking wizard but that did not work, all the sa
me I did follow the wizard through as you normally would but it was no help in configuring things as the router we use is really only meant for a cable or broadband. It was not meant to be used with dial up or ISDN which is why it is connected from its La
n to the Networking card in the PC and not connected directly to the ISDN. I do think that I have either selected something durring one of the several attempts that I did make using the windows networking wizard earlier on that has caused the fax problem,
the thing is I just dont know what It is that I have done. To be totally honest about the only thing I do recall doing at one stage durring trying to set up using the windows networking wizard was that I may have selected to share the printer which is al
so connect to the PC, how ever this still operates with out any problems.
the other thing I have found recently is with in the Admin settings under the services etc. When I look at the list of services the one for Fax simply says "STOPPING" not stop or start or disabled, just the word "Stopping".
I can not do anything with this, it will not allow me to start or stop it and when I do try I get an error message back telling me that this has been marked for deletion. I am not sure that this is a normal setting to see listed next to a service and I a
m not sure why I can not change this setting. I am an administrator so there should be no reason why I am unable too configure those settings.
  #41  
Old May 4th 04, 04:48 AM
kaz
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Posts: n/a
Default "Using XP Home Fax utility after setting up a network"

Yes thats right I could use the fax with the ISDN before attempting to set up the networking. I did try several times to set that networking up before It was finally configured, I think I tried using the networking wizard but that did not work, all the sa
me I did follow the wizard through as you normally would but it was no help in configuring things as the router we use is really only meant for a cable or broadband. It was not meant to be used with dial up or ISDN which is why it is connected from its La
n to the Networking card in the PC and not connected directly to the ISDN. I do think that I have either selected something durring one of the several attempts that I did make using the windows networking wizard earlier on that has caused the fax problem,
the thing is I just dont know what It is that I have done. To be totally honest about the only thing I do recall doing at one stage durring trying to set up using the windows networking wizard was that I may have selected to share the printer which is al
so connect to the PC, how ever this still operates with out any problems.
the other thing I have found recently is with in the Admin settings under the services etc. When I look at the list of services the one for Fax simply says "STOPPING" not stop or start or disabled, just the word "Stopping".
I can not do anything with this, it will not allow me to start or stop it and when I do try I get an error message back telling me that this has been marked for deletion. I am not sure that this is a normal setting to see listed next to a service and I a
m not sure why I can not change this setting. I am an administrator so there should be no reason why I am unable too configure those settings.
 




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