"Microsoft is making another Windows variant: Windows 10 Lean"

"Microsoft is making another Windows variant: Windows 10 Lean"

http://www.osnews.com/story/30288/Mi...dow s_10_Lean

"Windows 10 Lean appears to live up to its name: an installation is
about 2GB smaller than Windows 10 Pro, and it is missing a bunch of
things, such as desktop wallpaper, Registry Editor, the MMC management
console, and more. Lucan reports that Lean does not seem to apply the
same restrictions as S Mode, and as such it is capable of running both
Universal Windows Programs from the Store and traditional Win32
applications."

So now we have Windows 10 S, Lean, Home, and Pro. This is getting weird.

Lynn

Lynn McGuire wrote:

"Microsoft is making another Windows variant: Windows 10 Lean"

http://www.osnews.com/story/30288/Mi...er_Windows_var
iant_Windows_10_Lean

"Windows 10 Lean appears to live up to its name: an installation is
about 2GB smaller than Windows 10 Pro, and it is missing a bunch of
things, such as desktop wallpaper, Registry Editor, the MMC management
console, and more. Lucan reports that Lean does not seem to apply the
same restrictions as S Mode, and as such it is capable of running both
Universal Windows Programs from the Store and traditional Win32
applications."

So now we have Windows 10 S, Lean, Home, and Pro. This is getting
weird.

If it's significantly cheaper than current editions, I'm game to try it. If I
need anything that's missing, I can always trying copying it over from my
Home install.

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Lynn McGuire wrote:
"Microsoft is making another Windows variant: Windows 10 Lean"

http://www.osnews.com/story/30288/Mi...dow s_10_Lean


"Windows 10 Lean appears to live up to its name: an installation is
about 2GB smaller than Windows 10 Pro, and it is missing a bunch of
things, such as desktop wallpaper, Registry Editor, the MMC management
console, and more. Lucan reports that Lean does not seem to apply the
same restrictions as S Mode, and as such it is capable of running both
Universal Windows Programs from the Store and traditional Win32
applications."

So now we have Windows 10 S, Lean, Home, and Pro.Â* This is getting weird.

Lynn

Not weird...the nature of the OEM market - selling limited storage
devices with a higher margin($) return
- i.e. for OEM low cost devices(tablets/laptops/slates) with 'less
storage' 16GB or less is the current 'rumor'. Basically a device with
the capacity/circuitry of a small USB stick.

'Lean' is being developed under the Redstone 5 platform(not the next
version - Redstone 4[aka 1803] soon to be released to the public)

The obvious intent is to allow prevent limited storage devices being
stuck on the as-shipped version of Windows. Development of 'Lean' though
does not mean it will or will not become a reality.


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On 2018/04/26, "...w¡ñ§±¤ñ" wrote:

The obvious intent is to allow prevent limited storage devices being
stuck on the as-shipped version of Windows. Development of 'Lean' though
does not mean it will or will not become a reality.

How much smaller is lean from regular windows?

On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 10:53:39 -0000 (UTC), Suzuki Ichiro wrote:

On 2018/04/26, "...w¡ñ§±¤ñ" wrote:

The obvious intent is to allow prevent limited storage devices
being stuck on the as-shipped version of Windows. Development of
'Lean' though does not mean it will or will not become a
reality.

How much smaller is lean from regular windows?

It's supposed to take 2GB less hard disk space.

On 2018/04/26, mechanic wrote:

It's supposed to take 2GB less hard disk space.

Thank you.

On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 12:17:12 +0100, mechanic
wrote:

On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 10:53:39 -0000 (UTC), Suzuki Ichiro wrote:

On 2018/04/26, "...w¡ñ§±¤ñ" wrote:

The obvious intent is to allow prevent limited storage devices
being stuck on the as-shipped version of Windows. Development of
'Lean' though does not mean it will or will not become a
reality.

How much smaller is lean from regular windows?

It's supposed to take 2GB less hard disk space.

Not exactly that lean. If Microsoft were serious, they should make
sure that the operating system take no more than 2GB installed. I used
to run Windows 95 on a 500MB hard disk with space left over for games
and applications yet could complete most of the basic tasks I complete
today.

On 4/27/2018 11:35 AM, a.m wrote:
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 12:17:12 +0100, mechanic
wrote:

On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 10:53:39 -0000 (UTC), Suzuki Ichiro wrote:

On 2018/04/26, "...w¡ñ§±¤ñ" wrote:

The obvious intent is to allow prevent limited storage devices
being stuck on the as-shipped version of Windows. Development of
'Lean' though does not mean it will or will not become a
reality.

How much smaller is lean from regular windows?

It's supposed to take 2GB less hard disk space.

Not exactly that lean. If Microsoft were serious, they should make
sure that the operating system take no more than 2GB installed. I used
to run Windows 95 on a 500MB hard disk with space left over for games
and applications yet could complete most of the basic tasks I complete
today.

Don't the minimal devices come with 16 GB of "disk" space nowadays ?

Lynn

On 4/25/2018 1:49 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
"Microsoft is making another Windows variant: Windows 10 Lean"

http://www.osnews.com/story/30288/Mi...dow s_10_Lean


"Windows 10 Lean appears to live up to its name: an installation is
about 2GB smaller than Windows 10 Pro, and it is missing a bunch of
things, such as desktop wallpaper, Registry Editor, the MMC management
console, and more. Lucan reports that Lean does not seem to apply the
same restrictions as S Mode, and as such it is capable of running both
Universal Windows Programs from the Store and traditional Win32
applications."

So now we have Windows 10 S, Lean, Home, and Pro.Â* This is getting weird.

Lynn

It looks like Windows Lean will be renamed Windows S and gaining Win32
API capabilities.

Lynn

Lynn McGuire wrote:

"Microsoft is making another Windows variant: Windows 10 Lean"

http://www.osnews.com/story/30288/Mi...dow s_10_Lean

"Windows 10 Lean appears to live up to its name: an installation
is about 2GB smaller than Windows 10 Pro, and it is missing a
bunch of things, such as desktop wallpaper, Registry Editor, the
MMC management console, and more. Lucan reports that Lean does not
seem to apply the same restrictions as S Mode, and as such it is
capable of running both Universal Windows Programs from the Store
and traditional Win32 applications."

Missing the registry editor is no surprise. Microsoft has royally
messed up registry entries, specifically to do with the appearance
of Windows. I would not be surprised if dumping the registry is the
direction Microsoft's main focus goes.

"a.m" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 12:17:12 +0100, mechanic
How much smaller is lean from regular windows?

It's supposed to take 2GB less hard disk space.

Not exactly that lean. If Microsoft were serious, they should make
sure that the operating system take no more than 2GB installed. I used
to run Windows 95 on a 500MB hard disk with space left over for games
and applications yet could complete most of the basic tasks I complete
today.

My first PC had a 20 MB (yes, megabyte) hard drive, and was designed for
running DOS.

I managed to install Windows 3 on it (from a stack of floppies), running in
a restricted 8086 mode because that's all my PC had. OK, there was no space
left for any other apps, and I had to remove things to make the space, but
it shows that Windows 3 would run on a 20 MB hard drive.

"a.m" wrote in message ...

Not exactly that lean. If Microsoft were serious, they should make
sure that the operating system take no more than 2GB installed. I used
to run Windows 95 on a 500MB hard disk with space left over for games
and applications yet could complete most of the basic tasks I complete
today.

Today, Win95 as a base reference 23 yrs later is a pipe dream.

No more than 2GB installed ?
Easy...Windows 'Click to Run' approach
- Install minimal and pull down from the cloud to RAM as needed.

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msft mvp 2007-2016, insider mvp 2016-2018

On 04/27/2018 01:59 PM, NY wrote:

[snip]

My first PC had a 20 MB (yes, megabyte) hard drive, and was designed for
running DOS.

I managed to install Windows 3 on it (from a stack of floppies), running
in a restricted 8086 mode because that's all my PC had. OK, there was no
space left for any other apps, and I had to remove things to make the
space, but it shows that Windows 3 would run on a 20 MB hard drive.

I had a 386SX with 30MB hard drive. The drive controller had a problem
that made it incompatible with protected mode.

BTW, Windows (3.1) used the save file system as DOS, so my old backup
batch file worked, to backup everything to 10 1.44MB floppies.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"A computer without Microsoft Windows is like chocolate cake without the
mustard."

On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 11:53:03 -0400, Wolf K
wrote:

On 2018-04-27 12:35, a.m wrote:
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 12:17:12 +0100, mechanic
wrote:

On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 10:53:39 -0000 (UTC), Suzuki Ichiro wrote:

On 2018/04/26, "...w¡ñ§±¤ñ" wrote:

The obvious intent is to allow prevent limited storage devices
being stuck on the as-shipped version of Windows. Development of
'Lean' though does not mean it will or will not become a
reality.

How much smaller is lean from regular windows?

It's supposed to take 2GB less hard disk space.

Not exactly that lean. If Microsoft were serious, they should make
sure that the operating system take no more than 2GB installed. I used
to run Windows 95 on a 500MB hard disk with space left over for games
and applications yet could complete most of the basic tasks I complete
today.


I think figuring out how to reduce the bloat is just not worth it from
MS's POV. Would cost too much time and money.

Probably not, but there truly is no reason for an operating system to
take the GBs that they currently do. Even Linux shouldn't be as large
post-installation as it is even though it's way smaller than Windows
is. I imagine that some of the bundled libraries take up space though.

On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 19:59:08 +0100, "NY" wrote:

"a.m" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 12:17:12 +0100, mechanic
How much smaller is lean from regular windows?

It's supposed to take 2GB less hard disk space.

Not exactly that lean. If Microsoft were serious, they should make
sure that the operating system take no more than 2GB installed. I used
to run Windows 95 on a 500MB hard disk with space left over for games
and applications yet could complete most of the basic tasks I complete
today.

My first PC had a 20 MB (yes, megabyte) hard drive, and was designed for
running DOS.

Mine had a whopping 30MB: the IBM PS/1 Model 2011 (286 running at
10MHz).

I managed to install Windows 3 on it (from a stack of floppies), running in
a restricted 8086 mode because that's all my PC had. OK, there was no space
left for any other apps, and I had to remove things to make the space, but
it shows that Windows 3 would run on a 20 MB hard drive.

Did the same. I remember Windows 3 actually running fairly well. I
never tried 3.1 on the machine but I imagine that it wasn't all that
bad.