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Is 7 any good?
"Bullwinkle's news" wrote in message
... "Annie Woughman" wrote in message ... "RustY ©" wrote in message ... I've been told that 7 is a limited version of windos for laptops. Is anyone running anything bigger on it [successfully]. My biggest gripe is the lack of any kind of newsreader. Win7 did away with Windows Mail. I still haven't found another newsreader for usenet and I refuse to go to those stupid fake newsgroups on different websites. Also, it isn't as "pretty" as Vista--I know small potatoes in the greater plan--but now the task bar is just a flat transparent ribbon instead of the rounded one in Vista. There is a newsreader built right into Windows Live Mail. Click on "Go" and it tells you right on it that you can go to Newsgroups. You still have to set it up depening on the newsgroup isp you are focussing on. Set it up the same way you set them up on your previous OS mail client. Regards, Is it any good at catching news spam that Windows Mail will not catch? For example, is it possible to set up a rule to tell it to delete any news posts that even mention a web page at a web site that I frequently see mentioned in spam , but never in on-topic posts? Robert |
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A Annie Woughman se le ha ocurrido que:
My biggest gripe is the lack of any kind of newsreader. Win7 did away with Windows Mail. I still haven't found another newsreader for usenet and I refuse to go to those stupid fake newsgroups on different websites. Also, it isn't as "pretty" as Vista--I know small potatoes in the greater plan--but now the task bar is just a flat transparent ribbon instead of the rounded one in Vista. Try MesNews. -- Un saludo, Alberto |
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"Robert Miles" wrote in message ... "Bullwinkle's news" wrote in message ... "Annie Woughman" wrote in message ... "RustY ©" wrote in message ... I've been told that 7 is a limited version of windos for laptops. Is anyone running anything bigger on it [successfully]. My biggest gripe is the lack of any kind of newsreader. Win7 did away with Windows Mail. I still haven't found another newsreader for usenet and I refuse to go to those stupid fake newsgroups on different websites. Also, it isn't as "pretty" as Vista--I know small potatoes in the greater plan--but now the task bar is just a flat transparent ribbon instead of the rounded one in Vista. There is a newsreader built right into Windows Live Mail. Click on "Go" and it tells you right on it that you can go to Newsgroups. You still have to set it up depening on the newsgroup isp you are focussing on. Set it up the same way you set them up on your previous OS mail client. Regards, Is it any good at catching news spam that Windows Mail will not catch? For example, is it possible to set up a rule to tell it to delete any news posts that even mention a web page at a web site that I frequently see mentioned in spam , but never in on-topic posts? Robert The "Rules" are the same as OE and WM. Some security will be better as they (MS) Can update with out the user having to get update fixes |
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Is 7 any good?
"RustY ©" schreef in bericht ... I've been told that 7 is a limited version of windos for laptops. Is anyone running anything bigger on it [successfully]. I'm afraid I have to say that Win7 is not much better than Vista. Personally i think that XP Pro is the last decent OS Microsoft has released. Fritz Deneken |
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Who ever told you that is full of crap. I'm running a Quad Core and it is
very good. "RustY ©" wrote in message ... I've been told that 7 is a limited version of windos for laptops. Is anyone running anything bigger on it [successfully]. |
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"Leviatan" wrote in message ... A Annie Woughman se le ha ocurrido que: My biggest gripe is the lack of any kind of newsreader. Win7 did away with Windows Mail. I still haven't found another newsreader for usenet and I refuse to go to those stupid fake newsgroups on different websites. Also, it isn't as "pretty" as Vista--I know small potatoes in the greater plan--but now the task bar is just a flat transparent ribbon instead of the rounded one in Vista. Try MesNews. -- Un saludo, Alberto I started a discussion over on one of the XP groups a short while ago about what we would see machine manufacturers package with Win 7 once it came out, and to the degree that there was any consensus, the choice was Thunderbird. Make of this what you will. |
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**SNIP**
I downloaded and installed Windows Live Mail for mail and newsgroups. It works fine. :-) Grenou I agree. The interface is very similar to OE, so the learning curve was nil. Plus I was able to export my address book/contacts from Vista's Windows Mail and import it into Live, along with my message and news group rules that take care of a lot of the spam my ISP doesn't catch. All in all, I like Win7. I upgraded my Vista notebook to Win7 Home Premium 32-bit, and definitely will NOT be going back. I find it faster and less "heavy" feeling than Vista is. Not sure if I'll go to Win7 on my XP desktop yet. Seems like a lot of work no matter which method is used, and I like XP anyhow. SC Tom Ah, just the information I was looking for. I wonder though, can the most recent version of OE be downloaded to a pc running windows 7? Or likewise, can Windows Live work on a system running XP. Both questions are pertenent to my sidiation...as I'm running my old computer beside my new one for awhile. |
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"IK" wrote in message ... **SNIP** I downloaded and installed Windows Live Mail for mail and newsgroups. It works fine. :-) Grenou I agree. The interface is very similar to OE, so the learning curve was nil. Plus I was able to export my address book/contacts from Vista's Windows Mail and import it into Live, along with my message and news group rules that take care of a lot of the spam my ISP doesn't catch. All in all, I like Win7. I upgraded my Vista notebook to Win7 Home Premium 32-bit, and definitely will NOT be going back. I find it faster and less "heavy" feeling than Vista is. Not sure if I'll go to Win7 on my XP desktop yet. Seems like a lot of work no matter which method is used, and I like XP anyhow. SC Tom Ah, just the information I was looking for. I wonder though, can the most recent version of OE be downloaded to a pc running windows 7? Or likewise, can Windows Live work on a system running XP. Both questions are pertenent to my sidiation...as I'm running my old computer beside my new one for awhile. Most components of Live will work in XP ( see he http://windowslive.com/systemrequirements ). OE will not work in Win7. SC Tom |
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"Annie Woughman" wrote in message ... "Grenou" wrote in message ... "Annie Woughman" wrote in message ... "RustY ©" wrote in message ... I've been told that 7 is a limited version of windos for laptops. Is anyone running anything bigger on it [successfully]. My biggest gripe is the lack of any kind of newsreader. Win7 did away with Windows Mail. I still haven't found another newsreader for usenet and I refuse to go to those stupid fake newsgroups on different websites. Also, it isn't as "pretty" as Vista--I know small potatoes in the greater plan--but now the task bar is just a flat transparent ribbon instead of the rounded one in Vista. I downloaded and installed Windows Live Mail for mail and newsgroups. It works fine. :-) Grenou Thanks for the heads up. I am now posting from Windows Live Mail Well done :-) |
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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 02:38:21 -0800, "Annie Woughman"
wrote: My biggest gripe is the lack of any kind of newsreader. That doesn't bother me at all, for two reasons: 1. Not coming with a newsreader gives each person the opportunity to choose whatever newsreader he prefers. I'm against operating systems coming with application software (whether a newsreader or anything else) since doing so makes it much more likely that many people will use what they are given, rather than explore the alternatives and choose what's best for them. 2. My personal preference is Forte Agent 5.0. I've used Agent for several years, with Windows 7 as well as with earlier Windows versions. I recommend that you try it, as well as the many others available, and choose what *you* like best. Win7 did away with Windows Mail. I still haven't found another newsreader for usenet ??? Then you haven't looked very hard. A Google search will get you many alternatives to try. and I refuse to go to those stupid fake newsgroups on different websites. I'm with you entirely there. I greatly dislike using web-based forums instead of newsreaders. Also, it isn't as "pretty" as Vista--I know small potatoes in the greater plan--but now the task bar is just a flat transparent ribbon instead of the rounded one in Vista. Your choice of course, but each of our views as to what is "pretty" is not necessarily the same. Personally, I don't find either Windows Vista or Windows 7 to be prettier than the other, nor would I care a lot if I did. -- Ken Blake Please Reply to the Newsgroup |
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Vadim Igorev wrote:
Fritz Deneken wrote: Personally i think that XP Pro is the last decent OS Microsoft has released. I think the same, even that Vista after recent upgrade runs much faster, there was no better OS by Microsoft than XP Pro, it's all downhill from there for them and for us. You got that right and why I still run XP. |
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"Fritz Deneken" wrote: "RustY ©" schreef in bericht ... I've been told that 7 is a limited version of windos for laptops. Is anyone running anything bigger on it [successfully]. I'm afraid I have to say that Win7 is not much better than Vista. Personally i think that XP Pro is the last decent OS Microsoft has released. Fritz Deneken Unfortunately I'm gradually realizing the same. Oh well, M$ can use the income. |
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Hi Ken - Sorry to butt in and top-post, but...
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:19:21 -0700, Ken Blake wrote: On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 02:38:21 -0800, "Annie Woughman" wrote: My biggest gripe is the lack of any kind of newsreader. That doesn't bother me at all, for two reasons: 1. Not coming with a newsreader gives each person the opportunity to choose whatever newsreader he prefers. I'm against operating systems coming with application software (whether a newsreader or anything else) since doing so makes it much more likely that many people will use what they are given, rather than explore the alternatives and choose what's best for them. 2. My personal preference is Forte Agent 5.0. I've used Agent for several years, with Windows 7 as well as with earlier Windows versions. I recommend that you try it, as well as the many others available, and choose what *you* like best. KEN: About Agent 5.0: that's what I use currently - on a WinXP Pro system I built. Specs: 8Gb DDR2 (will utilize this when Win7 gets loaded), AMD Phenom II X4 940, WD 300GB VelociRaptor (along with three WD TeraByte SATA 'data' drives), ASUS M4A79 Deluxe Mbd, Radeon HD 4650 & two external eSATA drives. AntiVirus - Kaspersky Internet Security 2009 (upgraded to 2010 then ran an update which went terribly wrong & then had to go back to the 2009 version) & MalwareBytes Anti-malware. Since upgrading from Agent 4.2 to 5.0 though, I've found that it's almost impossible to do anything else on my system while Agent is downloading binary files - it seems to take a large percentage of CPU time away from anything else that I try to run. I have the Windows 7 Pro Upgrade (purchased 64-bit EDU version from DigitalRiver for $30) and plan on using Gnome Partition Editor to make room on the 300GB drive for it - for dual boot. I have downloaded all required Win7 64-bit drivers to support my hardware. My question: in your opinion, will this setup work? And do you think Windows 7 will handle Agent 5.0 better than XP - without allowing Agent to hog the CPU and slow things to a crawl? I do still have the 4.2 version of Agent and could try it. Also, should I set my motherboard for AHCI to load Win7 - it's now set to IDE (compatable) mode - or just leave it alone? Again, sorry to intrude. I probably should've just started a new thread. Thanx in advance for your help. NRJ Win7 did away with Windows Mail. I still haven't found another newsreader for usenet ??? Then you haven't looked very hard. A Google search will get you many alternatives to try. and I refuse to go to those stupid fake newsgroups on different websites. I'm with you entirely there. I greatly dislike using web-based forums instead of newsreaders. Also, it isn't as "pretty" as Vista--I know small potatoes in the greater plan--but now the task bar is just a flat transparent ribbon instead of the rounded one in Vista. Your choice of course, but each of our views as to what is "pretty" is not necessarily the same. Personally, I don't find either Windows Vista or Windows 7 to be prettier than the other, nor would I care a lot if I did. |
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:41:36 -0500, Navin R. Johnson
wrote: Hi Ken - Sorry to butt in and top-post, but... Not a problem. On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:19:21 -0700, Ken Blake wrote: On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 02:38:21 -0800, "Annie Woughman" wrote: My biggest gripe is the lack of any kind of newsreader. That doesn't bother me at all, for two reasons: 1. Not coming with a newsreader gives each person the opportunity to choose whatever newsreader he prefers. I'm against operating systems coming with application software (whether a newsreader or anything else) since doing so makes it much more likely that many people will use what they are given, rather than explore the alternatives and choose what's best for them. 2. My personal preference is Forte Agent 5.0. I've used Agent for several years, with Windows 7 as well as with earlier Windows versions. I recommend that you try it, as well as the many others available, and choose what *you* like best. KEN: About Agent 5.0: that's what I use currently - on a WinXP Pro system I built. Specs: 8Gb DDR2 (will utilize this when Win7 gets loaded), AMD Phenom II X4 940, WD 300GB VelociRaptor (along with three WD TeraByte SATA 'data' drives), ASUS M4A79 Deluxe Mbd, Radeon HD 4650 & two external eSATA drives. AntiVirus - Kaspersky Internet Security 2009 (upgraded to 2010 then ran an update which went terribly wrong & then had to go back to the 2009 version) & MalwareBytes Anti-malware. Since upgrading from Agent 4.2 to 5.0 though, I've found that it's almost impossible to do anything else on my system while Agent is downloading binary files - it seems to take a large percentage of CPU time away from anything else that I try to run. I have no experience with binary newsgroups, so I can't agree or disagree with that. But I can tell that I've never had such an experience with text newsgroups. I have the Windows 7 Pro Upgrade (purchased 64-bit EDU version from DigitalRiver for $30) and plan on using Gnome Partition Editor to make room on the 300GB drive for it - for dual boot. I have downloaded all required Win7 64-bit drivers to support my hardware. My question: in your opinion, will this setup work? And do you think Windows 7 will handle Agent 5.0 better than XP - without allowing Agent to hog the CPU and slow things to a crawl? I do still have the 4.2 version of Agent and could try it. Also, should I set my motherboard for AHCI to load Win7 - it's now set to IDE (compatable) mode - or just leave it alone? Sorry, I can't comment about binary newsgroups, but my experience with text newsgroups in Agent 5.0 in both XP and Windows 7 has been fine. Again, sorry to intrude. I probably should've just started a new thread. Thanx in advance for your help. NRJ Win7 did away with Windows Mail. I still haven't found another newsreader for usenet ??? Then you haven't looked very hard. A Google search will get you many alternatives to try. and I refuse to go to those stupid fake newsgroups on different websites. I'm with you entirely there. I greatly dislike using web-based forums instead of newsreaders. Also, it isn't as "pretty" as Vista--I know small potatoes in the greater plan--but now the task bar is just a flat transparent ribbon instead of the rounded one in Vista. Your choice of course, but each of our views as to what is "pretty" is not necessarily the same. Personally, I don't find either Windows Vista or Windows 7 to be prettier than the other, nor would I care a lot if I did. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003 Please Reply to the Newsgroup |
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