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Old November 15th 09, 10:35 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Craig
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Default OEM V's Retail..

Hi folks..
Ant truth to the rumour that if you buy the retail version of
win 7 compared to the oem version,you get both x64 AND x32 bit versions on
the retail version so you can make up your own mind..

Thanks in advance

Craig



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Old November 15th 09, 11:11 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Trev[_3_]
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"Craig" wrote in message
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Hi folks..
Ant truth to the rumour that if you buy the retail version
of win 7 compared to the oem version,you get both x64 AND x32 bit versions
on the retail version so you can make up your own mind..

Thanks in advance

Craig




Its Not a rumour You do. But surly you can make up your mind before you buy
a OEM too and for a third of the cost.

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Old November 15th 09, 04:45 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
PvdG42
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"Trev" wrote in message
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"Craig" wrote in message
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Hi folks..
Ant truth to the rumour that if you buy the retail version
of win 7 compared to the oem version,you get both x64 AND x32 bit
versions on the retail version so you can make up your own mind..

Thanks in advance

Craig




Its Not a rumour You do. But surly you can make up your mind before you
buy a OEM too and for a third of the cost.


True, but that's not the only difference between Retail and OEM. Two things
you don't get with OEM that nay affect your decision:

1. Support. When Microsoft sells an OEM license, the OEM (purchaser of the
license) is responsible for support, not Microsoft. So, if you're
comfortable with self-support, buy OEM.

2. Transferability. An OEM license is tied to the hardware on which it is
installed, while a retail license is transferable from one computer to
another. An OEM license does not allow you to *legally* install Win 7 on one
PC, then remove and then install it on a different computer using the same
license. If you have a new PC and plan to keep it for a while, OEM may make
sense.


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Old November 15th 09, 05:14 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
C
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Default OEM V's Retail..

PvdG42 wrote:

"Trev" wrote in message
...

"Craig" wrote in message
...
Hi folks..
Ant truth to the rumour that if you buy the retail
version of win 7 compared to the oem version,you get both x64 AND x32
bit versions on the retail version so you can make up your own mind..

Thanks in advance

Craig




Its Not a rumour You do. But surly you can make up your mind before
you buy a OEM too and for a third of the cost.


True, but that's not the only difference between Retail and OEM. Two
things you don't get with OEM that nay affect your decision:

1. Support. When Microsoft sells an OEM license, the OEM (purchaser of
the license) is responsible for support, not Microsoft. So, if you're
comfortable with self-support, buy OEM.

2. Transferability. An OEM license is tied to the hardware on which it
is installed, while a retail license is transferable from one computer
to another. An OEM license does not allow you to *legally* install Win 7
on one PC, then remove and then install it on a different computer using
the same license. If you have a new PC and plan to keep it for a while,
OEM may make sense.



I heard that if 120 days have past, the hardware hash for your computer
on MS servers is wiped clean and a new slate begins. As to whether it is
legal or not depends on the country's laws where you live and if and
when MS' EULA is ever taken to court and justified as legal. So one
*can* move an OEM copy from one computer to another although the
legality is not clear.

C
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Old November 15th 09, 09:55 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Cash[_2_]
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C wrote:
PvdG42 wrote:

"Trev" wrote in message
...

"Craig" wrote in message
...
Hi folks..
Ant truth to the rumour that if you buy the retail
version of win 7 compared to the oem version,you get both x64 AND
x32 bit versions on the retail version so you can make up your own
mind.. Thanks in advance

Craig




Its Not a rumour You do. But surly you can make up your mind before
you buy a OEM too and for a third of the cost.


True, but that's not the only difference between Retail and OEM. Two
things you don't get with OEM that nay affect your decision:

1. Support. When Microsoft sells an OEM license, the OEM (purchaser
of the license) is responsible for support, not Microsoft. So, if
you're comfortable with self-support, buy OEM.

2. Transferability. An OEM license is tied to the hardware on which
it is installed, while a retail license is transferable from one
computer to another. An OEM license does not allow you to *legally*
install Win 7 on one PC, then remove and then install it on a
different computer using the same license. If you have a new PC and
plan to keep it for a while, OEM may make sense.



I heard that if 120 days have past, the hardware hash for your
computer on MS servers is wiped clean and a new slate begins. As to
whether it is legal or not depends on the country's laws where you
live and if and when MS' EULA is ever taken to court and justified as
legal. So one *can* move an OEM copy from one computer to another
although the legality is not clear.

C


I have done that and, when the internet activation failed, a simple
telephone call with an automatic response got thing working on the new
computer. N.B. this was using the XP Home disk.


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Old November 16th 09, 03:43 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Jack Gillis[_3_]
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Default OEM V's Retail..

Craig wrote:
Hi folks..
Ant truth to the rumour that if you buy the retail version of
win 7 compared to the oem version,you get both x64 AND x32 bit versions on
the retail version so you can make up your own mind..

Thanks in advance

Craig



My OEM from New Egg contained 2 disk. 1 64bit and the other 32bit
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Old November 16th 09, 06:37 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Student
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My OEM from New Egg contained 2 disk. 1 64bit and the other 32bit



My OEM was one disk

However I did order the special promotional upgrade package which I ordered
in June.

It is to upgrade my daughters vista. It came with 2 disk 32 and 64 bit.

I made an Acronis image of my system and tried both these versions on my
computer. I did not enter the key and activate.

After trying both I decided 32 bit was fine for me.

I then bought a 32 bit OEM home premium and did a fresh installation.

64 bit has a larger foot print.

ES
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Old November 16th 09, 08:37 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Craig
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Default OEM V's Retail..


"Craig" wrote in message
...
Hi folks..
Ant truth to the rumour that if you buy the retail version
of win 7 compared to the oem version,you get both x64 AND x32 bit versions
on the retail version so you can make up your own mind..

Thanks in advance

Craig





Thanks for all your help folks..:-)


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Old November 16th 09, 11:31 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
C
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Default OEM V's Retail..

Cash wrote:
C wrote:
PvdG42 wrote:
"Trev" wrote in message
...
"Craig" wrote in message
...
Hi folks..
Ant truth to the rumour that if you buy the retail
version of win 7 compared to the oem version,you get both x64 AND
x32 bit versions on the retail version so you can make up your own
mind.. Thanks in advance

Craig



Its Not a rumour You do. But surly you can make up your mind before
you buy a OEM too and for a third of the cost.
True, but that's not the only difference between Retail and OEM. Two
things you don't get with OEM that nay affect your decision:

1. Support. When Microsoft sells an OEM license, the OEM (purchaser
of the license) is responsible for support, not Microsoft. So, if
you're comfortable with self-support, buy OEM.

2. Transferability. An OEM license is tied to the hardware on which
it is installed, while a retail license is transferable from one
computer to another. An OEM license does not allow you to *legally*
install Win 7 on one PC, then remove and then install it on a
different computer using the same license. If you have a new PC and
plan to keep it for a while, OEM may make sense.


I heard that if 120 days have past, the hardware hash for your
computer on MS servers is wiped clean and a new slate begins. As to
whether it is legal or not depends on the country's laws where you
live and if and when MS' EULA is ever taken to court and justified as
legal. So one *can* move an OEM copy from one computer to another
although the legality is not clear.

C


I have done that and, when the internet activation failed, a simple
telephone call with an automatic response got thing working on the new
computer. N.B. this was using the XP Home disk.



Was it less than 120 days since the last activation/genuinization or
hardware change?

C
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Old November 16th 09, 04:03 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
JJG
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Default OEM V's Retail..

You are absolute right. I was mixed up with a full version I ordered
from Amazon.

Student wrote:



My OEM from New Egg contained 2 disk. 1 64bit and the other 32bit



My OEM was one disk

However I did order the special promotional upgrade package which I ordered
in June.

It is to upgrade my daughters vista. It came with 2 disk 32 and 64 bit.

I made an Acronis image of my system and tried both these versions on my
computer. I did not enter the key and activate.

After trying both I decided 32 bit was fine for me.

I then bought a 32 bit OEM home premium and did a fresh installation.

64 bit has a larger foot print.

ES

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Old November 18th 09, 05:23 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Brian W
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Default OEM V's Retail..



"PvdG42" wrote in message
...

"Trev" wrote in message
...

"Craig" wrote in message
...
Hi folks..
Ant truth to the rumour that if you buy the retail version
of win 7 compared to the oem version,you get both x64 AND x32 bit
versions on the retail version so you can make up your own mind..

Thanks in advance

Craig




Its Not a rumour You do. But surly you can make up your mind before you
buy a OEM too and for a third of the cost.


True, but that's not the only difference between Retail and OEM. Two
things you don't get with OEM that nay affect your decision:

1. Support. When Microsoft sells an OEM license, the OEM (purchaser of the
license) is responsible for support, not Microsoft. So, if you're
comfortable with self-support, buy OEM.

2. Transferability. An OEM license is tied to the hardware on which it is
installed, while a retail license is transferable from one computer to
another. An OEM license does not allow you to *legally* install Win 7 on
one PC, then remove and then install it on a different computer using the
same license. If you have a new PC and plan to keep it for a while, OEM
may make sense.


But the PC can be 'upgraded' ad infinitum without any problems. Even
changing the motherboard or HDD can be considered an 'upgrade', despite what
MS may say!
I did loads of 'upgrades' with OEM Vista (using retail Win 7 now)


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Old November 18th 09, 05:25 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Gordon
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"Brian W" wrote in message
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But the PC can be 'upgraded' ad infinitum without any problems. Even
changing the motherboard or HDD can be considered an 'upgrade', despite
what MS may say!
I did loads of 'upgrades' with OEM Vista (using retail Win 7 now)



MS doesn't actually say anywhere, what constitutes a "new" computer....

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Old November 18th 09, 05:40 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Brian W
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Default OEM V's Retail..



"Gordon" wrote in message
. uk...

"Brian W" wrote in message
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But the PC can be 'upgraded' ad infinitum without any problems. Even
changing the motherboard or HDD can be considered an 'upgrade', despite
what MS may say!
I did loads of 'upgrades' with OEM Vista (using retail Win 7 now)



MS doesn't actually say anywhere, what constitutes a "new" computer....


Exactly :-)


 




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