camera You'll need a new app to open this ms-windows-store

new laptop
no microsoft account
laptop has a camera in the lid
I just want to test the camera app
I type "camera" in cortana and it says to get it from the app store.
Clicking on that camera app store in cortana pops up this
http://i64.tinypic.com/2v28w9h.jpg
You'll need a new app to open this ms-windows-store
What does that mean?
No matter what I click, nothing happens.
Can you help?

On 04/08/2019 02:01, Janice Cortell wrote:
new laptop
no microsoft account
laptop has a camera in the lid
I just want to test the camera app
I type "camera" in cortana and it says to get it from the app store.
Clicking on that camera app store in cortana pops up this
http://i64.tinypic.com/2v28w9h.jpg
You'll need a new app to open this ms-windows-store
What does that mean?
No matter what I click, nothing happens.
Can you help?
The easiest way to test your camera is to take your own photo with your
camera in the lid by going to:

Settings Accounts Your Info

Then you need to click on the Camera Icon as shown in this pictu

[ alt-no ] https://i.imgur.com/SWloY10.png

You don't need to install anything to use your own camera. Can you tell
us whether your laptop is from big brands such as DELL, HP, LENOVO,
Toshiba etc etc. these companies will give you everything to get
started quickly.

Hope this helps.





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On 8/3/2019 9:01 PM, Janice Cortell wrote:
new laptop
no microsoft account
laptop has a camera in the lid
I just want to test the camera app
I type "camera" in cortana and it says to get it from the app store.
Clicking on that camera app store in cortana pops up this
http://i64.tinypic.com/2v28w9h.jpg
You'll need a new app to open this ms-windows-store
What does that mean?
No matter what I click, nothing happens.
Can you help?

In my installation of my HP laptop there is a built in windows Camera app.

Go to the list of progams from the Windows 10 start menu. (Click MS Icon
on left end of the toolbar) On the left, the third icon from the top (a
series of `-----) scroll down to camera and click

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Janice Cortell wrote:
new laptop
no microsoft account
laptop has a camera in the lid
I just want to test the camera app
I type "camera" in cortana and it says to get it from the app store.
Clicking on that camera app store in cortana pops up this
http://i64.tinypic.com/2v28w9h.jpg
You'll need a new app to open this ms-windows-store
What does that mean?
No matter what I click, nothing happens.
Can you help?

That's a URI, and it's supposed to open the "Windows Store App".

This one for example, if issued in MSEdge browser in the
address bar, would vector you to the Windows Store application
and have it locate the App to switch Win10 S to vanilla Win10
(similar to an Anytime Upgrade operation).

ms-windows-sto//switchwindows

It's a Uniform Resource Indicator because it defines
a specific protocol only the Store App understands.

*******

In the picture you provided, I don't see the Windows Store
icon in the Task Bar. I've lost the Windows Store icon
twice, and I think in one case at least, the "app reinstall"
Powershell stuff worked to get it back. But the bugs in
Windows Store are "Win10 Release" specific, so each generation
of OS has different flaws. For example, at one time,
something called the Tile Cache might be breaking it.
Whereas today, something else is probably breaking it.

https://windowsreport.com/microsoft-...-after-update/

I would rate this six out of ten, in terms of "annoying" :-)
You would think the Windows Store app, which generates multiple
billions of dollars a year, would be worth making into a
reliable application... Shirely some manager suffers hair
loss when a copy of that goes missing... again.

Paul

Paul wrote

In the picture you provided, I don't see the Windows Store
icon in the Task Bar. I've lost the Windows Store icon
twice

This laptop started life as windows S which my son converted to 10.
The camera seems to be built in which the device manager shows as working
http://i66.tinypic.com/fdsqxe.jpg
I don't really even want or need the windows store.
I just want the camera to work so I can skype my son who is in college.

In Settings Accounts Your Info
I can't even snap a picture because this happens when I try.
http://i64.tinypic.com/21v4gx.jpg

There is no camera defined in the start menu under "c"
http://i64.tinypic.com/28b6wrs.jpg

But there is a "Microsoft.WindowsCamera"
when I run Get-AppxPackage ¡VAllUsers which I found on the net over here
https://www.intowindows.com/how-to-r...in-windows-10/
http://i64.tinypic.com/2meu33q.jpg

Name : Microsoft.WindowsCamera
Publisher : CN=Microsoft Corporation, O=Microsoft Corporation,
L=Redmond, S=Washington, C=US
Architecture : X64
ResourceId :
Version : 2019.425.30.0
PackageFullName :
Microsoft.WindowsCamera_2019.425.30.0_x64__8wekyb3 d8bbwe
InstallLocation : C:\Program
Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.WindowsCamera_2019.425 .30.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe
IsFramework : False
PackageFamilyName : Microsoft.WindowsCamera_8wekyb3d8bbwe
PublisherId : 8wekyb3d8bbwe
PackageUserInformation : {S-1-5-18 [S-1-5-18]: Staged}
IsResourcePackage : False
IsBundle : False
IsDevelopmentMode : False
IsPartiallyStaged : False
SignatureKind : Store
Status : Ok

Janice Cortell wrote:
Paul wrote

In the picture you provided, I don't see the Windows Store
icon in the Task Bar. I've lost the Windows Store icon
twice

This laptop started life as windows S which my son converted to 10.
The camera seems to be built in which the device manager shows as working
http://i66.tinypic.com/fdsqxe.jpg
I don't really even want or need the windows store.
I just want the camera to work so I can skype my son who is in college.

In Settings Accounts Your Info
I can't even snap a picture because this happens when I try.
http://i64.tinypic.com/21v4gx.jpg

There is no camera defined in the start menu under "c"
http://i64.tinypic.com/28b6wrs.jpg

But there is a "Microsoft.WindowsCamera"
when I run Get-AppxPackage ¡VAllUsers which I found on the net over here
https://www.intowindows.com/how-to-r...in-windows-10/
http://i64.tinypic.com/2meu33q.jpg

Name : Microsoft.WindowsCamera
Publisher : CN=Microsoft Corporation, O=Microsoft Corporation,
L=Redmond, S=Washington, C=US
Architecture : X64
ResourceId :
Version : 2019.425.30.0
PackageFullName :
Microsoft.WindowsCamera_2019.425.30.0_x64__8wekyb3 d8bbwe
InstallLocation : C:\Program
Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.WindowsCamera_2019.425 .30.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe
IsFramework : False
PackageFamilyName : Microsoft.WindowsCamera_8wekyb3d8bbwe
PublisherId : 8wekyb3d8bbwe
PackageUserInformation : {S-1-5-18 [S-1-5-18]: Staged}
IsResourcePackage : False
IsBundle : False
IsDevelopmentMode : False
IsPartiallyStaged : False
SignatureKind : Store
Status : Ok

That seems to be the one running on my system.

https://i.postimg.cc/TwJfK0b0/camera-app-1903.gif

And it's in the Menu, in the letter C portion.

Paul

Janice Cortell wrote:
Paul wrote

In the picture you provided, I don't see the Windows Store
icon in the Task Bar. I've lost the Windows Store icon
twice

This laptop started life as windows S which my son converted to 10.
The camera seems to be built in which the device manager shows as working
http://i66.tinypic.com/fdsqxe.jpg
I don't really even want or need the windows store.
I just want the camera to work so I can skype my son who is in college.

In Settings Accounts Your Info
I can't even snap a picture because this happens when I try.
http://i64.tinypic.com/21v4gx.jpg

There is no camera defined in the start menu under "c"
http://i64.tinypic.com/28b6wrs.jpg

But there is a "Microsoft.WindowsCamera"
when I run Get-AppxPackage ¡VAllUsers which I found on the net over here
https://www.intowindows.com/how-to-r...in-windows-10/
http://i64.tinypic.com/2meu33q.jpg

Name : Microsoft.WindowsCamera
Publisher : CN=Microsoft Corporation, O=Microsoft Corporation,
L=Redmond, S=Washington, C=US
Architecture : X64
ResourceId :
Version : 2019.425.30.0
PackageFullName :
Microsoft.WindowsCamera_2019.425.30.0_x64__8wekyb3 d8bbwe
InstallLocation : C:\Program
Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.WindowsCamera_2019.425 .30.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe
IsFramework : False
PackageFamilyName : Microsoft.WindowsCamera_8wekyb3d8bbwe
PublisherId : 8wekyb3d8bbwe
PackageUserInformation : {S-1-5-18 [S-1-5-18]: Staged}
IsResourcePackage : False
IsBundle : False
IsDevelopmentMode : False
IsPartiallyStaged : False
SignatureKind : Store
Status : Ok

One other tiny thing to remember, is the Camera App
isn't the only application that can take pictures.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/btw...miscutils2.73/

wdmmiscutils2.73.zip 2004-02-23 46.8 kB

amcap.exe (version 8) 143,360 bytes

Microsoft did that as sample code originally.

One developer forked that and made a commercial
version which was sold.

The BTWINCAP project offers a version, and
it's sort of the middle ground between the
payware one and the original scrawny one.

It might still need permission settings to work.

Remember that Windows 10 has a FrameServe implementation,
which means you aren't actually talking directly
to the camera. Sure, Device Manager has an entry.
When a program "selects" a camera, it's likely
actually selecting a spigot on FrameServer. And
FrameServer pulls video from the camera. And when
FrameServer pulls video, it doesn't just use
any old mode. For some reason I think it tried
to select an uncompressed mode.

Skype had some sort of "test call" setup, but I
don't remember if you could actually verify the
webcam that way or not. I think that might have
been about as close to using Skype as I ever got.

Paul

On 8/3/19 9:45 PM, Janice Cortell wrote:
I just want the camera to work so I can skype my son who is in college.

If, as you say, you only want the camera for Skype, go straight for the
end game.

Start Skype. I use the built-in app in W10, not the downloadable desktop
version.
Open Settings. You find that by clicking the 3 horizontal dots to the
right
of your name, upper left corner of the Skype screen.
Click on Audio and Video. If the camera is working, you should get a
camera view.

My system is extremely slow, and it's an external webcam. So it takes a
couple of seconds for the camera to kick in.

You can also test the microphone here.

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On 8/3/19 9:45 PM, Janice Cortell wrote:
I just want the camera to work so I can skype my son who is in college.

If, as you say, you only want the camera for Skype, go straight for the
end game.

Start Skype. I use the built-in app in W10, not the downloadable desktop
version.
Open Settings. You find that by clicking the 3 horizontal dots to the right
of your name, upper left corner of the Skype screen.
Click on Audio and Video. If the camera is working, you should get a
camera view.

My system is extremely slow, and it's an external webcam. So it takes a
couple of seconds for the camera to kick in.

You can also test the microphone here.

--
Ken
MacOS 10.14.5
Firefox 67.0.4
Thunderbird 60.7
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"

On 8/3/19 9:45 PM, Janice Cortell wrote:
I just want the camera to work so I can skype my son who is in college.

If, as you say, you only want the camera for Skype, go straight for the
end game.

Start Skype. I use the built-in app in W10, not the downloadable desktop
version.
Open Settings. You find that by clicking the 3 horizontal dots to the
right of your name, upper left corner of the Skype screen.
Click on Audio and Video. If the camera is working, you should get a
camera view.

My system is extremely slow, and it's an external webcam. So it takes a
couple of seconds for the camera to kick in.

You can also test the microphone here.
--
Ken
MacOS 10.14.5
Firefox 67.0.4
Thunderbird 60.7
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"

On 8/3/19 9:45 PM, Janice Cortell wrote:
I just want the camera to work so I can skype my son who is in college.

If, as you say, you only want the camera for Skype, go straight for the
end game.

Start Skype. I use the built-in app in W10, not the downloadable desktop
version.
Open Settings. You find that by clicking the 3 horizontal dots to the
right of your name, upper left corner of the Skype screen.
Click on Audio and Video. If the camera is working, you should get a
camera view.

My system is extremely slow, and it's an external webcam. So it takes a
couple of seconds for the camera to kick in.

You can also test the microphone here.

--
Ken
MacOS 10.14.5
Firefox 67.0.4
Thunderbird 60.7
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"

Ken Springer wrote:
On 8/3/19 9:45 PM, Janice Cortell wrote:
I just want the camera to work so I can skype my son who is in college.

If, as you say, you only want the camera for Skype, go straight for the
end game.

Start Skype. I use the built-in app in W10, not the downloadable
desktop
version.
Open Settings. You find that by clicking the 3 horizontal dots to the
right of your name, upper left corner of the Skype screen.
Click on Audio and Video. If the camera is working, you should get a
camera view.

My system is extremely slow, and it's an external webcam. So it takes a
couple of seconds for the camera to kick in.

You can also test the microphone here.


Skype will need microphone and camera permissions enabled.

Just as the Camera App needs such permissions.

I understand Skype has a "Test Call" feature, and you
might be able to do some testing that way. I can't remember
though, whether my Test Call was multimedia or just audio.

Like, this page suggests the Test Call is audio only.

https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA2...echo-test-call

*******

The problem with most applications on Windows, is a
lack of camera controls. The Camera App does have
resolution choices (even if they're daft). But it
lacks custom controls such as "RightLight" and
"AutoFocus", which could be camera specific and
are not a part of UVC Class necessarily.

On Linux, GUVCView has the necessary control panel,
whereas Cheese doesn't. Windows generally is worse
off in this regard, in that you may find one
control panel in your travels, and that's about it.

If Microsoft would allow the proprietary software
to work, it wouldn't be as much of a problem. But
the FrameServer crap can break the proprietary
software install. And I'm not particularly
motivated to keep buying new hardware, just
to solve "OS indigestion" problems.

Paul

First, an apology for the multiple messages. Albasani.net has been
having issues, but I don't know what.

On 8/6/19 6:45 AM, Paul wrote:
Ken Springer wrote:
On 8/3/19 9:45 PM, Janice Cortell wrote:
I just want the camera to work so I can skype my son who is in college.

If, as you say, you only want the camera for Skype, go straight for the
end game.

Start Skype. I use the built-in app in W10, not the downloadable
desktop
version.
Open Settings. You find that by clicking the 3 horizontal dots to the
right of your name, upper left corner of the Skype screen.
Click on Audio and Video. If the camera is working, you should get a
camera view.

My system is extremely slow, and it's an external webcam. So it takes a
couple of seconds for the camera to kick in.

You can also test the microphone here.


Skype will need microphone and camera permissions enabled.

That was my point. Go straight to Skype, if that is the only thing the
OP wants the camera for, and see if the camera and mic work. If it
does, she's done.

Only those of us posting would worry about the rest.

Just as the Camera App needs such permissions.

I understand Skype has a "Test Call" feature, and you
might be able to do some testing that way. I can't remember
though, whether my Test Call was multimedia or just audio.

Echo/Sound Test Service. I've not played with it enough to know how
extensive the testing is. My mic and camera work on W7 and W10. Since
the same hardware is involved for W8 as W7, I'm assuming it works there
too. I've yet to set up the webcam on my Mac Mini.

Like, this page suggests the Test Call is audio only.

https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA2...echo-test-call

*******

The problem with most applications on Windows, is a
lack of camera controls. The Camera App does have
resolution choices (even if they're daft). But it
lacks custom controls such as "RightLight" and
"AutoFocus", which could be camera specific and
are not a part of UVC Class necessarily.

My Live! Cam webcam on W7 has controls such as that. Contrast,
brightness, etc. It all installed automatically when I hooked it up.
However, the Logitech I installed on W10 did not install anything. As I
rarely use w10, and Skype there even less, I've never bothered to check
Logitech's site out for a different driver.

On Linux, GUVCView has the necessary control panel,
whereas Cheese doesn't. Windows generally is worse
off in this regard, in that you may find one
control panel in your travels, and that's about it.

If Microsoft would allow the proprietary software
to work, it wouldn't be as much of a problem. But
the FrameServer crap can break the proprietary
software install. And I'm not particularly
motivated to keep buying new hardware, just
to solve "OS indigestion" problems.

Paul



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MacOS 10.14.5
Firefox 67.0.4
Thunderbird 60.7
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"