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order in left-hand (tree) pane?
In Windows Explorer, in the right-hand pane, the default sort order is
by name, but can be changed to date, size, or any other column heading by clicking on the column heading, with a second such click reversing the order (though I think folders always stay together, before or after files). However, the sorting in the _left_ pane, where the tree structure is shown, seems to be (increasing) name order only. Anyone know if it can be changed? I don't actually have any need or want to change it; I just wondered. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Lewis: ... d'you think there's a god? Morse: ... There are times when I wish to god there was one. (Inspector Morse) |
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order in left-hand (tree) pane?
On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 15:29:09 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote: In Windows Explorer, in the right-hand pane, the default sort order is by name, but can be changed to date, size, or any other column heading by clicking on the column heading, with a second such click reversing the order (though I think folders always stay together, before or after files). However, the sorting in the _left_ pane, where the tree structure is shown, seems to be (increasing) name order only. Anyone know if it can be changed? I don't actually have any need or want to change it; I just wondered. As far as I know, no it can't be changed. As you say, it's tree structure. Change the sort order and the tree structure would be lost. |
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order in left-hand (tree) pane?
In Windows Explorer, in the right-hand pane, the default sort order is by
name, but can be changed to date, size, or any other column heading by clicking on the column heading, with a second such click reversing the order (though I think folders always stay together, before or after files). However, the sorting in the _left_ pane, where the tree structure is shown, seems to be (increasing) name order only. Anyone know if it can be changed? I don't actually have any need or want to change it; I just wondered. You can manually reorder it somewhat! -- Garry Free usenet access at http://www.eternal-september.org Classic VB Users Regroup! comp.lang.basic.visual.misc microsoft.public.vb.general.discussion |
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order in left-hand (tree) pane?
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In Windows Explorer, in the right-hand pane, the default sort order is by name, but can be changed to date, size, or any other column heading by clicking on the column heading, with a second such click reversing the order (though I think folders always stay together, before or after files). However, the sorting in the _left_ pane, where the tree structure is shown, seems to be (increasing) name order only. Anyone know if it can be changed? For my own personal folders that I want at the top of the list (and easy to find) I put an underscore in front of the folder name. Like: _Photos or _Bills. They then will appear in a separate alphabetical order at the top of the list. If you precede them with numbers you can make them in any order. Like: 1Photos or 2Bills. Only works with your personal folders though. Try that with an app folder and things will likely get very screwed up... |
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In message , GS writes:
In Windows Explorer, in the right-hand pane, the default sort order is by name, but can be changed to date, size, or any other column heading by clicking on the column heading, with a second such click reversing the order (though I think folders always stay together, before or after files). However, the sorting in the _left_ pane, where the tree structure is shown, seems to be (increasing) name order only. Anyone know if it can be changed? I don't actually have any need or want to change it; I just wondered. You can manually reorder it somewhat! Only by changing names (e. g. by putting _ or numbers before them, as "123456789" describes), unless you know otherwise! -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf To keep leaf vegetables clean and crisp, cook lightly, then plunge into iced water (the vegetables, that is). - manual for a Russell Hobbs electric steamer |
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In message , Ken Blake
writes: On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 15:29:09 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote: In Windows Explorer, in the right-hand pane, the default sort order is by name, but can be changed to date, size, or any other column heading by clicking on the column heading, with a second such click reversing the order (though I think folders always stay together, before or after files). However, the sorting in the _left_ pane, where the tree structure is shown, seems to be (increasing) name order only. Anyone know if it can be changed? I don't actually have any need or want to change it; I just wondered. As far as I know, no it can't be changed. As you say, it's tree structure. Change the sort order and the tree structure would be lost. It could still be presented as a tree - just folders and subfolders would appear in a different order. (As I said, I have no need or desire to do it.) It wouldn't not still be a tree. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf To keep leaf vegetables clean and crisp, cook lightly, then plunge into iced water (the vegetables, that is). - manual for a Russell Hobbs electric steamer |
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On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 21:15:54 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote: In message , Ken Blake writes: On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 15:29:09 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote: In Windows Explorer, in the right-hand pane, the default sort order is by name, but can be changed to date, size, or any other column heading by clicking on the column heading, with a second such click reversing the order (though I think folders always stay together, before or after files). However, the sorting in the _left_ pane, where the tree structure is shown, seems to be (increasing) name order only. Anyone know if it can be changed? I don't actually have any need or want to change it; I just wondered. As far as I know, no it can't be changed. As you say, it's tree structure. Change the sort order and the tree structure would be lost. It could still be presented as a tree - just folders and subfolders would appear in a different order. (As I said, I have no need or desire to do it.) It wouldn't not still be a tree. "Wouldn't not"? Yes, a double negative makes a positive, but I think that that's the first time I've seen that. g But for example, if you sorted by date created, a subfolder that appears presently under one folder might appear in a completely different place. |
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In message , Ken Blake
writes: On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 21:15:54 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote: In message , Ken Blake writes: On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 15:29:09 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote: In Windows Explorer, in the right-hand pane, the default sort order is by name, but can be changed to date, size, or any other column heading by clicking on the column heading, with a second such click reversing the order (though I think folders always stay together, before or after files). However, the sorting in the _left_ pane, where the tree structure is shown, seems to be (increasing) name order only. Anyone know if it can be changed? I don't actually have any need or want to change it; I just wondered. As far as I know, no it can't be changed. As you say, it's tree structure. Change the sort order and the tree structure would be lost. It could still be presented as a tree - just folders and subfolders would appear in a different order. (As I said, I have no need or desire to do it.) It wouldn't not still be a tree. "Wouldn't not"? Yes, a double negative makes a positive, but I think that that's the first time I've seen that. g It was deliberate! But for example, if you sorted by date created, a subfolder that appears presently under one folder might appear in a completely different place. No, the folder hierarchy would remain, just the subfolders _within_ a folder would appear in a different order. After all, in the right-hand pane, changing the displayed sort order doesn't suddenly show files from a different folder. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Feudalism : It's your count that votes. |
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On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 22:42:28 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote: In message , Ken Blake writes: On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 21:15:54 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote: In message , Ken Blake writes: On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 15:29:09 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote: In Windows Explorer, in the right-hand pane, the default sort order is by name, but can be changed to date, size, or any other column heading by clicking on the column heading, with a second such click reversing the order (though I think folders always stay together, before or after files). However, the sorting in the _left_ pane, where the tree structure is shown, seems to be (increasing) name order only. Anyone know if it can be changed? I don't actually have any need or want to change it; I just wondered. As far as I know, no it can't be changed. As you say, it's tree structure. Change the sort order and the tree structure would be lost. It could still be presented as a tree - just folders and subfolders would appear in a different order. (As I said, I have no need or desire to do it.) It wouldn't not still be a tree. "Wouldn't not"? Yes, a double negative makes a positive, but I think that that's the first time I've seen that. g It was deliberate! OK. But for example, if you sorted by date created, a subfolder that appears presently under one folder might appear in a completely different place. No, the folder hierarchy would remain, just the subfolders _within_ a folder would appear in a different order. After all, in the right-hand pane, changing the displayed sort order doesn't suddenly show files from a different folder. Yes, you're right. I hadn't thought of that. |
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In message , GS writes:
In Windows Explorer, in the right-hand pane, the default sort order is by name, but can be changed to date, size, or any other column heading by clicking on the column heading, with a second such click reversing the order (though I think folders always stay together, before or after files). However, the sorting in the _left_ pane, where the tree structure is shown, seems to be (increasing) name order only. Anyone know if it can be changed? I don't actually have any need or want to change it; I just wondered. You can manually reorder it somewhat! Only by changing names (e. g. by putting _ or numbers before them, as "123456789" describes), unless you know otherwise! I just drag-n-drop to arrange things how I want them ordered; - seems that WE remembers the positions because any time I reopen it the positions persist as I ordered them. IOW, the tree is CUSTOM ORDERED instead of sorted by any default means (NOTE: the default sort persists within the custom ordering of the tree nodes). -- Garry Free usenet access at http://www.eternal-september.org Classic VB Users Regroup! comp.lang.basic.visual.misc microsoft.public.vb.general.discussion |
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order in left-hand (tree) pane?
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 18:52:47 -0400, GS wrote:
In message , GS writes: In Windows Explorer, in the right-hand pane, the default sort order is by name, but can be changed to date, size, or any other column heading by clicking on the column heading, with a second such click reversing the order (though I think folders always stay together, before or after files). However, the sorting in the _left_ pane, where the tree structure is shown, seems to be (increasing) name order only. Anyone know if it can be changed? I don't actually have any need or want to change it; I just wondered. You can manually reorder it somewhat! Only by changing names (e. g. by putting _ or numbers before them, as "123456789" describes), unless you know otherwise! I just drag-n-drop to arrange things how I want them ordered; - seems that WE remembers the positions because any time I reopen it the positions persist as I ordered them. IOW, the tree is CUSTOM ORDERED instead of sorted by any default means (NOTE: the default sort persists within the custom ordering of the tree nodes). I just checked Windows Explorer in 10, 8.1, 7, and XP. None of them allowed me to drag any of the entries in the left pane. Do you have any custom software installed, or anything you might have done to enable dragging in the left pane of WE? I must be missing something obvious, which wouldn't be the first time. |
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On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 18:52:47 -0400, GS wrote:
In message , GS writes: In Windows Explorer, in the right-hand pane, the default sort order is by name, but can be changed to date, size, or any other column heading by clicking on the column heading, with a second such click reversing the order (though I think folders always stay together, before or after files). However, the sorting in the _left_ pane, where the tree structure is shown, seems to be (increasing) name order only. Anyone know if it can be changed? I don't actually have any need or want to change it; I just wondered. You can manually reorder it somewhat! Only by changing names (e. g. by putting _ or numbers before them, as "123456789" describes), unless you know otherwise! I just drag-n-drop to arrange things how I want them ordered; - seems that WE remembers the positions because any time I reopen it the positions persist as I ordered them. IOW, the tree is CUSTOM ORDERED instead of sorted by any default means (NOTE: the default sort persists within the custom ordering of the tree nodes). I just checked Windows Explorer in 10, 8.1, 7, and XP. None of them allowed me to drag any of the entries in the left pane. Do you have any custom software installed, or anything you might have done to enable dragging in the left pane of WE? I must be missing something obvious, which wouldn't be the first time. Ok, I just verified that my experience has been with (and only applies to) the Child nodes under the *Favorites* node. Anywhere else I want nodes to appear at the topmost position under a parent node I use the underscore character which, by default, also follows normal sort order according to the 1st character after the underscore. I apologize for causing any misleads! -- Garry Free usenet access at http://www.eternal-september.org Classic VB Users Regroup! comp.lang.basic.visual.misc microsoft.public.vb.general.discussion |
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Char Jackson wrote:
I just checked Windows Explorer in 10, 8.1, 7, and XP. None of them allowed me to drag any of the entries in the left pane. Well, on Win10 you can drag to re-order pinned items within the 'Quick Access' subtree, but I agree that dragging within any other parts of the tree pane is either disallowed, or just creates a shortcut. |
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote
| However, the sorting in the _left_ pane, where the tree structure is | shown, seems to be (increasing) name order only. | | Anyone know if it can be changed? | Isn't that what desktops and shortcuts are for? I've never used the Folders Explorer Bar. I find it too tedious to deal with all those tiny nodes. On XP and Win7-32 I have a custom Explorer Bar with links to folders within folder windows. On my desktop I have shortcuts to all drives and several commonly used folders. I also have whatever I'm currently working on spread out on the desktop. I use it just like a solid desktop, taking out the various "papers" I need for a project and then putting them away when I'm done. So it's rare that I need more than 2-3 clicks to get to where I want to be. Best of all, it's intuitive, custom design. The places I go most are the easiest to get to. The Folders Explorer Bar is just a generic list of everything. |
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On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 23:27:12 -0400, GS wrote:
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 18:52:47 -0400, GS wrote: In message , GS writes: In Windows Explorer, in the right-hand pane, the default sort order is by name, but can be changed to date, size, or any other column heading by clicking on the column heading, with a second such click reversing the order (though I think folders always stay together, before or after files). However, the sorting in the _left_ pane, where the tree structure is shown, seems to be (increasing) name order only. Anyone know if it can be changed? I don't actually have any need or want to change it; I just wondered. You can manually reorder it somewhat! Only by changing names (e. g. by putting _ or numbers before them, as "123456789" describes), unless you know otherwise! I just drag-n-drop to arrange things how I want them ordered; - seems that WE remembers the positions because any time I reopen it the positions persist as I ordered them. IOW, the tree is CUSTOM ORDERED instead of sorted by any default means (NOTE: the default sort persists within the custom ordering of the tree nodes). I just checked Windows Explorer in 10, 8.1, 7, and XP. None of them allowed me to drag any of the entries in the left pane. Do you have any custom software installed, or anything you might have done to enable dragging in the left pane of WE? I must be missing something obvious, which wouldn't be the first time. Ok, I just verified that my experience has been with (and only applies to) the Child nodes under the *Favorites* node. Anywhere else I want nodes to appear at the topmost position under a parent node I use the underscore character which, by default, also follows normal sort order according to the 1st character after the underscore. I apologize for causing any misleads! Thanks for clarifying! I've never found a use for the Favorites feature so mine is empty. Thus, no dragging for me in there. I'm probably the only one who was a bit confused. |
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