Access Point Setup

I am trying here as well since there seems to be some here who may have
been able to solve my Access Point problems. So please do not suggest
me calling tech support. I just do not feel up to holding a phone up
to my ear for hours. Hopefully someones here can have a meaningful
discussion.

I have a Amped R20000G hardwired to an Amped AP20000G at the other end
of the house.

I have a PC hardwired to the R20000G and another PC hardwired to the
AP20000G.

I have a security cam WiFi-ed to the R20000G and another security cam
WiFi-ed to the AP20000G. Through the mfrs app I can view all sec cams
on both PCs. So far so good. But through the same mfrs (Lorex) app I
can only directly access the cams through the respective PC. Strange.

But worse, I have a NAS on the R20000G that all can see, however I also
have another NAS on the AP20000G that only the PC on the R20000G can
see. That is confusing.

So what I left out is that the AP20000G has several device directly
plugged into it including a switch. The problematic NAS is plugged
into the switch. So it is really the path: NAS to switch to AP2000G
that seems to be failing. Yes I can move stuff around but shouldn't
that setup be allowed?

OK, boiling it down further.
The R20000G base IP is 192.168.3.1
The AP20000G base IP is 192.168.2.1 I think the AP set this itself.

This may be why I am having problems but I really do not know what to
do.

Are there setting in the R20000G or AP20000G that will make them work
transparently as one? I just do not know all the terminology to know
where to start.

Are there any other newsgroups that might be able to assist?

TIA



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OldGuy used his keyboard to write :
I am trying here as well since there seems to be some here who may have been
able to solve my Access Point problems. So please do not suggest me calling
tech support. I just do not feel up to holding a phone up to my ear for
hours. Hopefully someones here can have a meaningful discussion.

I have a Amped R20000G hardwired to an Amped AP20000G at the other end of the
house.

I have a PC hardwired to the R20000G and another PC hardwired to the
AP20000G.

I have a security cam WiFi-ed to the R20000G and another security cam WiFi-ed
to the AP20000G. Through the mfrs app I can view all sec cams on both PCs.
So far so good. But through the same mfrs (Lorex) app I can only directly
access the cams through the respective PC. Strange.

But worse, I have a NAS on the R20000G that all can see, however I also have
another NAS on the AP20000G that only the PC on the R20000G can see. That is
confusing.

So what I left out is that the AP20000G has several device directly plugged
into it including a switch. The problematic NAS is plugged into the switch.
So it is really the path: NAS to switch to AP2000G that seems to be failing.
Yes I can move stuff around but shouldn't that setup be allowed?

OK, boiling it down further.
The R20000G base IP is 192.168.3.1
The AP20000G base IP is 192.168.2.1 I think the AP set this itself.

This may be why I am having problems but I really do not know what to do.

Are there setting in the R20000G or AP20000G that will make them work
transparently as one? I just do not know all the terminology to know where
to start.

Typically an AP (access point) is on the same subnet (3rd octet of a
typical home network) as the router. Without knowing the equipment
itself in qustion and just generally speaking I woul dmake the IP of
the AP 192.168.3.2 (same subnet but different address as the router).
I would also make sure the AP is not giving out DHCP addressing but
letting that pass-through form the router. Then all your gear will be
on the same subnet.

Here at my house I have a non-wireless router in the basement on .1. I
then have 2 wireless routers (configured to act as APs) as well as an
AP on addresses .2 .3 and .4, all with their internal DHCP server
turned off. All devices on my network (both wired and wireless) get
addresses on the same subnet and can talk to each other as well as get
to the internet.

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 11:27:45 -0500, Seth
wrote:

OldGuy used his keyboard to write :
I am trying here as well since there seems to be some here who may have been
able to solve my Access Point problems. So please do not suggest me calling
tech support. I just do not feel up to holding a phone up to my ear for
hours. Hopefully someones here can have a meaningful discussion.

I have a Amped R20000G hardwired to an Amped AP20000G at the other end of the
house.

I have a PC hardwired to the R20000G and another PC hardwired to the
AP20000G.

I have a security cam WiFi-ed to the R20000G and another security cam WiFi-ed
to the AP20000G. Through the mfrs app I can view all sec cams on both PCs.
So far so good. But through the same mfrs (Lorex) app I can only directly
access the cams through the respective PC. Strange.

But worse, I have a NAS on the R20000G that all can see, however I also have
another NAS on the AP20000G that only the PC on the R20000G can see. That is
confusing.

So what I left out is that the AP20000G has several device directly plugged
into it including a switch. The problematic NAS is plugged into the switch.
So it is really the path: NAS to switch to AP2000G that seems to be failing.
Yes I can move stuff around but shouldn't that setup be allowed?

OK, boiling it down further.
The R20000G base IP is 192.168.3.1
The AP20000G base IP is 192.168.2.1 I think the AP set this itself.

This may be why I am having problems but I really do not know what to do.

Are there setting in the R20000G or AP20000G that will make them work
transparently as one? I just do not know all the terminology to know where
to start.

Typically an AP (access point) is on the same subnet (3rd octet of a
typical home network) as the router. Without knowing the equipment
itself in qustion and just generally speaking I woul dmake the IP of
the AP 192.168.3.2 (same subnet but different address as the router).
I would also make sure the AP is not giving out DHCP addressing but
letting that pass-through form the router. Then all your gear will be
on the same subnet.

Here at my house I have a non-wireless router in the basement on .1. I
then have 2 wireless routers (configured to act as APs) as well as an
AP on addresses .2 .3 and .4, all with their internal DHCP server
turned off. All devices on my network (both wired and wireless) get
addresses on the same subnet and can talk to each other as well as get
to the internet.


+1 to everything Seth said. Put everything on the same subnet and make sure
you only have one DHCP server running. You'll be able to see and access
everything.

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Char Jackson

Tried that but it would not let me set it.
The main WiFi router R20000G is at 192.168.3.1

I tried the Ap20000G at 192.168.3.2 and DCHP Disabled but after Apply
and booting it came back as 192.168.2.1 and DCHP disabled.

The R20000 has a DCHP range set for of .100 to .200. Factory set that
way but I guess I can change that.
Does that make any difference?



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It happens that OldGuy formulated :
Tried that but it would not let me set it.
The main WiFi router R20000G is at 192.168.3.1

I tried the Ap20000G at 192.168.3.2 and DCHP Disabled but after Apply and
booting it came back as 192.168.2.1 and DCHP disabled.

The R20000 has a DCHP range set for of .100 to .200. Factory set that way
but I guess I can change that.
Does that make any difference?

The DHCP rangemakes no difference as long as each IP is unique. Your
issue is with clients being on different subnets and if you can't
change that not really sure what you can do. 192.168.x.x are not made
for spanning subnets, expecially since you need things to go both ways.
All of my routers and APs allow me to specify subnets and unique
addressing for each one so don't know why your won't.

I've never seen an AP that has a DHCP server and won't let you change
its IP and subnet. Are you sure it's an AP and not a router that you
are simply trying to use an as AP? Not all routers can be set to
emulate an AP.

Seth wrote:
It happens that OldGuy formulated :
Tried that but it would not let me set it.
The main WiFi router R20000G is at 192.168.3.1

I tried the Ap20000G at 192.168.3.2 and DCHP Disabled but after Apply
and booting it came back as 192.168.2.1 and DCHP disabled.

The R20000 has a DCHP range set for of .100 to .200. Factory set that
way but I guess I can change that.
Does that make any difference?

The DHCP rangemakes no difference as long as each IP is unique. Your
issue is with clients being on different subnets and if you can't change
that not really sure what you can do. 192.168.x.x are not made for
spanning subnets, expecially since you need things to go both ways. All
of my routers and APs allow me to specify subnets and unique addressing
for each one so don't know why your won't.

I've never seen an AP that has a DHCP server and won't let you change
its IP and subnet. Are you sure it's an AP and not a router that you are
simply trying to use an as AP? Not all routers can be set to emulate an AP.


http://www.ampedwireless.com/datashe...UsersGuide.pdf

You can assign a static address to the access point.
The default IP is 192.168.80.240.

His other box is this one.

http://www.ampedwireless.com/datashe...UsersGuide.pdf

Paul

Still reading about it all.
Ap20000 is a WiFi access point, hence the APxxxxx
R20000G is a WiFi router, hence the Rxxxxx
Both by Amped. Both dual band 600mwatts.

I found that some AP20000G doc, not the user guide, says to leave the
DCHP to Auto since it will not interfer with the Router R20000G unless
it has to. i.e. Auto will let the router handle the DCHP.

It also says to set the AP20000G gateway to 192.168.3.1.
So maybe then I can set the AP20000G IP address where I want.
I am away from the hardware at the moment so I will play around later.

Googling has shown no other advice so far.



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"OldGuy" wrote in message ...
I am trying here as well since there seems to be some here who may have been able to solve my Access Point problems. So please do
not suggest me calling tech support. I just do not feel up to holding a phone up to my ear for hours. Hopefully someones here
can have a meaningful discussion.
I have a Amped R20000G hardwired to an Amped AP20000G at the other end of the house.
I have a PC hardwired to the R20000G and another PC hardwired to the AP20000G.
I have a security cam WiFi-ed to the R20000G and another security cam WiFi-ed to the AP20000G. Through the mfrs app I can view
all sec cams on both PCs. So far so good. But through the same mfrs (Lorex) app I can only directly access the cams through the
respective PC. Strange.
But worse, I have a NAS on the R20000G that all can see, however I also have another NAS on the AP20000G that only the PC on the
R20000G can see. That is confusing.

Lorex On Port: 5700 or 8080


So what I left out is that the AP20000G has several device directly plugged into it including a switch. The problematic NAS is
plugged into the switch. So it is really the path: NAS to switch to AP2000G that seems to be failing. Yes I can move stuff
around but shouldn't that setup be allowed?

OK, boiling it down further.
The R20000G base IP is 192.168.3.1
The AP20000G base IP is 192.168.2.1 I think the AP set this itself.

R20000G base IP is 192.168.3.1:80
AP20000G base IP is 192.168.2.1:80

Port:80 is by Default



This may be why I am having problems but I really do not know what to do. Are there setting in the R20000G or AP20000G that will
make them work transparently as one? I just do not know all the terminology to know where to start.


problems is in the Port #'


Are there any other newsgroups that might be able to assist?


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OldGuy brought next idea :
I am trying here as well since there seems to be some here who may have been
able to solve my Access Point problems. So please do not suggest me calling
tech support. I just do not feel up to holding a phone up to my ear for
hours. Hopefully someones here can have a meaningful discussion.

I have a Amped R20000G hardwired to an Amped AP20000G at the other end of the
house.

I have a PC hardwired to the R20000G and another PC hardwired to the
AP20000G.

I have a security cam WiFi-ed to the R20000G and another security cam WiFi-ed
to the AP20000G. Through the mfrs app I can view all sec cams on both PCs.
So far so good. But through the same mfrs (Lorex) app I can only directly
access the cams through the respective PC. Strange.

But worse, I have a NAS on the R20000G that all can see, however I also have
another NAS on the AP20000G that only the PC on the R20000G can see. That is
confusing.

So what I left out is that the AP20000G has several device directly plugged
into it including a switch. The problematic NAS is plugged into the switch.
So it is really the path: NAS to switch to AP2000G that seems to be failing.
Yes I can move stuff around but shouldn't that setup be allowed?

OK, boiling it down further.
The R20000G base IP is 192.168.3.1
The AP20000G base IP is 192.168.2.1 I think the AP set this itself.

This may be why I am having problems but I really do not know what to do.

Are there setting in the R20000G or AP20000G that will make them work
transparently as one? I just do not know all the terminology to know where
to start.

Are there any other newsgroups that might be able to assist?

TIA



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Update. The AP20000G locked up and after three hours with tech support
in their chat room and with the phone support they then declared it
broken. So now I HAVE TO PAY TO SHIP IT BACK for a replacement.
Yipes!!! Oh let me yell!



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OldGuy wrote:
OldGuy brought next idea :
I have a Amped R20000G hardwired to an Amped AP20000G at the other end
of the house.

I have a PC hardwired to the R20000G and another PC hardwired to the
AP20000G.


Update. The AP20000G locked up and after three hours with tech support
in their chat room and with the phone support they then declared it
broken. So now I HAVE TO PAY TO SHIP IT BACK for a replacement.
Yipes!!! Oh let me yell!

Maybe they are like router/switch/hubs... good for a year
then burn out due to poor ventilation.

On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 20:29:05 -0800, OldGuy wrote:

Update. The AP20000G locked up and after three hours with tech support
in their chat room and with the phone support they then declared it
broken. So now I HAVE TO PAY TO SHIP IT BACK for a replacement.
Yipes!!! Oh let me yell!

Do you have to use their equipment, or is this an opportunity to go with
something a little more mainstream?

--

Char Jackson

On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 20:29:05 -0800, OldGuy wrote:

Update. The AP20000G locked up and after three hours with tech support
in their chat room and with the phone support they then declared it
broken. So now I HAVE TO PAY TO SHIP IT BACK for a replacement.
Yipes!!! Oh let me yell!

Do you have to use their equipment, or is this an opportunity to go with
something a little more mainstream?

Around here is is mainstream. The mfr is about 25 miles from me and
the local computer stores sell it off the shelf.

What do you recommend?



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On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 09:04:04 -0800, OldGuy wrote:

On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 20:29:05 -0800, OldGuy wrote:

Update. The AP20000G locked up and after three hours with tech support
in their chat room and with the phone support they then declared it
broken. So now I HAVE TO PAY TO SHIP IT BACK for a replacement.
Yipes!!! Oh let me yell!

Do you have to use their equipment, or is this an opportunity to go with
something a little more mainstream?

Around here is is mainstream. The mfr is about 25 miles from me and
the local computer stores sell it off the shelf.

What do you recommend?

Well, it's not a brand/model that I've heard of till now, so I suspect that
"around here" for you is different than it is for me. I'm in the US.

Personally, I check reviews and specs at places like Amazon or
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/ or www.newegg.com, with an eye toward
compatibility with 3rd party firmware. Before I buy a router, I make sure
it'll run dd-wrt firmware, but that may not be a requirement for anyone
else. What should be important, I think, are the performance and
connectivity specs, as well as the general favorability of the user reviews.

So for me it's something like this:
1. Is it in the top 10 performance leaders at Small Net Builder?
2. Are the LAN ports Gigabit or only Fast Ethernet?
3. Will the hardware run dd-wrt firmware?
4. Is it a respected brand? (In no particular order, Asus, Linksys, Netgear,
Buffalo, etc.) Brands that don't qualify for me are Belkin, most D-Link
products (except their switches), and most other brands. What are people
saying about it?

There are other considerations, like the 802.11 band(s) covered, whether it
has detachable antennas, etc., but those usually shake out on their own.

--

Char Jackson

OldGuy wrote:
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 20:29:05 -0800, OldGuy wrote:

Update. The AP20000G locked up and after three hours with tech
support in their chat room and with the phone support they then
declared it broken. So now I HAVE TO PAY TO SHIP IT BACK for a
replacement. Yipes!!! Oh let me yell!

Do you have to use their equipment, or is this an opportunity to go with
something a little more mainstream?

Around here is is mainstream. The mfr is about 25 miles from me and the
local computer stores sell it off the shelf.

What do you recommend?


If the mfr is 25 miles away, and you have an RMA number in your
possession, you could drive the boxed-up product with RMA number
printed on it, to their facility. And they can ship it to the depot
doing RMAs for you :-) There should be regular shipments going
back and forth.

Companies generally don't accept packages without an RMA number
printed on the outside. As Shipping & Receiving has to know what
to do with it. Incoming items are logged, and later, when
they "lose" your shipment, there needs to be a way to track
receipt of it.

Paul

Paul submitted this idea :
OldGuy wrote:

If the mfr is 25 miles away, and you have an RMA number in your
possession, you could drive the boxed-up product with RMA number
printed on it, to their facility. And they can ship it to the depot
doing RMAs for you :-) There should be regular shipments going
back and forth.

Companies generally don't accept packages without an RMA number
printed on the outside. As Shipping & Receiving has to know what
to do with it. Incoming items are logged, and later, when
they "lose" your shipment, there needs to be a way to track
receipt of it.

Paul

UPS.
It is 25 miles of nasty traffic and would burn more gas than the UPS
charge.
So it went UPS with an RMA number. First had to get a ticket number,
then they gave and RMA but NO shipping label. So I have to pay $10.00
to return it. Other companies I have had to RMA did send me a shipping
label so the return was free to me. Oh well.

Hopefully the replacement will have updated firmware and will be able
to do the real AP function as some of you have so graciously explained.



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