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  #16  
Old November 29th 11, 10:11 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
SC Tom[_3_]
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"Mortimer" wrote in message ...
"SC Tom" wrote in message ...

"Mortimer" wrote in message o.uk...
"SC Tom" wrote in message ...

"Microsoft Rippoff" wrote in message ...

Windows 7 is the new Windows ME.

IE9 sucks really bad too.

Windows 7 64-bit sucks even worse.

Don't buy it. Insist on XP or Mac!

Hope this helps.

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Windows 7 works great for me, and so does IE9. And I had no trouble with ME, either. In fact, I rolled my XP
installation back twice before finally sticking with XP.

Never used 64-bit anything; never found a use for it. Others have; good on them!

Haven't used a Mac OS since IIse; haven't felt the need to since Windows has always provided for me.

If you are having particular problems, post them here and maybe someone will look past your ranting and decide to
help :-)

In most respects, Windows 7 works perfectly for me.

The only downsides a

- no 64-bit driver is available for my Epson 1200 scanner so I need to keep an XP machine for this


Actually, that's Epson's fault, not Microsoft's.


True.

- the file-search capabilities of Vista and 7 are CRAP compared with those on XP: they don't consistently find files
with names that contain desired text


Agreed. That's why I use Agent Ransack.


I'll give that a try. I presume it allows me to find all files whose name contains a given word (dir | grep "text" in
Unix-speak) or to search for a word in the contents of (text) files (grep "text" *.*), as the XP file search tool did,
and can be set to search additionally for hidden/system files and in hidden/system folders.


Yes, it will. It's very versatile and best of all, FREE! It has a number of features that I haven't even delved into
since I haven't had a need for them. . . yet.


- the Explorer shell has a habit of deciding for me how to display a list of files (whether as a one-line-per-file
list of filenames, as icons and with various different columns depending on what sort of files it finds; I want the
standard filename, last modified date, file size headings for *all* folders)


Not a big deal for me. I kinda like my music folders sorted by track number, picture folders showing large icons,
etc. But that's just me; others have their own likes and dislikes, and that's fine.


The problem is that the folder customisation (right-click on a folder, Properties, Customise, Use this type of folder
as a template) resets itself every so often. I usually set all folders to type All Items, irrespective of how I
display the files (filnames, icons etc) so that if I do need to display photos or videos as filenames temporarily for
locating a file that has too long a name to be displayed under the icon, I can then sort by date of modification.
Seeing date photo taken or image dimensions for a list of video files or documents isn't a great deal of use.

- Windows Live Mail has a crap user-interface compared with Outlook Express and Windows Mail


Not a part of Windows 7. It came with no native mail program.


My Windows 7 PC came with Windows Live Mail already installed. I'd assumed it was part of Win 7, but it could have
been preinstalled by Dell (since people would want a working email client) as part of their build process.


If it was there when you bought it, you're correct in assuming Dell installed it (along with plenty of unnecessary
garbage, if Dell is anything like HP/Compaq or Gateway).


The problem with installing any other email program than WLM is that I'd have to install it on my Vista laptop as well
in case I wanted to forward any messages from the Sent Items mailbox on the laptop to the Sent Items on the Win 7
desktop for consolidation and backup to external HDD, and I bet if you attach an email in Windows Mail format and send
it to Thunderbird or whatever, Thunderbird won't be able to read it as a valid email. I'd prefer it if all email
clients (irrespective of their user interfaces) used an industry-standard file format for messages and folders.


Now you're just being unreasonable (in the various companies' way of thinking, not mine). That sounds like a great idea,
but I'm willing to bet it will never come to fruition. But, hey, everyone loves a dreamer :-)
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  #17  
Old November 29th 11, 11:29 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
arnold
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On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 16:03:58 -0500, Nil wrote:

On 29 Nov 2011, "Mortimer" wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

The problem with installing any other email program than WLM is that
I'd have to install it on my Vista laptop as well in case I wanted to
forward any messages from the Sent Items mailbox on the laptop to the
Sent Items on the Win 7 desktop for consolidation and backup to
external HDD, and I bet if you attach an email in Windows Mail format
and send it to Thunderbird or whatever, Thunderbird won't be able to
read it as a valid email.


That's not an issue. You should try it yourself and see.


I've used Thunderbird for years now. I gave up on Windows email clients a
long time ago. It's very easy to move anything to a different computer w/
T-Bird. I move my entire email from desktop to laptop for a trip and back
again when I return. It take less than two minutes.
  #18  
Old November 29th 11, 11:41 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Gene E. Bloch[_5_]
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On 11/29/2011, Peter Jason posted:
Firefox has one big advantage. It has a *selectable* default folder
for internet downloaded images.


It took me about two minutes to find out, using Help, how to set the
default download folder in Internet Explorer.

I had to look it up because I don't usually use IE, but as I said, two
minutes to learn how...

BTW, I then followed the instructions. They work.

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  #19  
Old November 30th 11, 12:19 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
SC Tom[_3_]
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"Peter Jason" wrote in message ...
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 14:02:32 -0500, "SC Tom" wrote:


"Mortimer" wrote in message o.uk...
"SC Tom" wrote in message ...

"Microsoft Rippoff" wrote in message ...

Windows 7 is the new Windows ME.

IE9 sucks really bad too.

Windows 7 64-bit sucks even worse.

Don't buy it. Insist on XP or Mac!

Hope this helps.

--

http://tinyurl.com/66skkxb



Windows 7 works great for me, and so does IE9. And I had no trouble with ME, either. In fact, I rolled my XP
installation back twice before finally sticking with XP.

Never used 64-bit anything; never found a use for it. Others have; good on them!

Haven't used a Mac OS since IIse; haven't felt the need to since Windows has always provided for me.

If you are having particular problems, post them here and maybe someone will look past your ranting and decide to
help :-)

In most respects, Windows 7 works perfectly for me.

The only downsides a

- no 64-bit driver is available for my Epson 1200 scanner so I need to keep an XP machine for this


Actually, that's Epson's fault, not Microsoft's.

- the file-search capabilities of Vista and 7 are CRAP compared with those on XP: they don't consistently find files
with names that contain desired text


Agreed. That's why I use Agent Ransack.

- the Explorer shell has a habit of deciding for me how to display a list of files (whether as a one-line-per-file
list of filenames, as icons and with various different columns depending on what sort of files it finds; I want the
standard filename, last modified date, file size headings for *all* folders)


Not a big deal for me. I kinda like my music folders sorted by track number, picture folders showing large icons, etc.
But that's just me; others have their own likes and dislikes, and that's fine.

- Windows Live Mail has a crap user-interface compared with Outlook Express and Windows Mail


Not a part of Windows 7. It came with no native mail program.


I can live with these, mostly.


Me, too, mostly :-)


I use Firefox rather than IE, so I can't comment on IE9.


I didn't care for Firefox (been quite some time since I tried it, to be honest), so I came back to IE8, then
updated/upgraded to IE9. I didn't like it so much at first, but after a little customization, it's almost the same as
IE8 visually, but is a bit faster than IE8 on my XP desktop (which has a much faster quad core CPU than my laptops
dual
core).


Firefox has one big advantage. It has a *selectable* default folder
for internet downloaded images.


So does IE9 and IE8. Not that hard to do; don't know how easy it is for Firefox.
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  #20  
Old November 30th 11, 12:23 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Gene E. Bloch[_5_]
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On 11/29/2011, SC Tom posted:
"Peter Jason" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 14:02:32 -0500, "SC Tom" wrote:


"Mortimer" wrote in message
o.uk...
"SC Tom" wrote in message ...

"Microsoft Rippoff" wrote in message
...

Windows 7 is the new Windows ME.

IE9 sucks really bad too.

Windows 7 64-bit sucks even worse.

Don't buy it. Insist on XP or Mac!

Hope this helps.

--

http://tinyurl.com/66skkxb



Windows 7 works great for me, and so does IE9. And I had no trouble with
ME, either. In fact, I rolled my XP
installation back twice before finally sticking with XP.

Never used 64-bit anything; never found a use for it. Others have; good
on them!

Haven't used a Mac OS since IIse; haven't felt the need to since Windows
has always provided for me.

If you are having particular problems, post them here and maybe someone
will look past your ranting and decide to
help :-)

In most respects, Windows 7 works perfectly for me.

The only downsides a

- no 64-bit driver is available for my Epson 1200 scanner so I need to
keep an XP machine for this

Actually, that's Epson's fault, not Microsoft's.

- the file-search capabilities of Vista and 7 are CRAP compared with
those on XP: they don't consistently find files
with names that contain desired text

Agreed. That's why I use Agent Ransack.

- the Explorer shell has a habit of deciding for me how to display a list
of files (whether as a one-line-per-file
list of filenames, as icons and with various different columns depending
on what sort of files it finds; I want the
standard filename, last modified date, file size headings for *all*
folders)

Not a big deal for me. I kinda like my music folders sorted by track
number, picture folders showing large icons, etc.
But that's just me; others have their own likes and dislikes, and that's
fine.

- Windows Live Mail has a crap user-interface compared with Outlook
Express and Windows Mail

Not a part of Windows 7. It came with no native mail program.


I can live with these, mostly.

Me, too, mostly :-)


I use Firefox rather than IE, so I can't comment on IE9.

I didn't care for Firefox (been quite some time since I tried it, to be
honest), so I came back to IE8, then
updated/upgraded to IE9. I didn't like it so much at first, but after a
little customization, it's almost the same as
IE8 visually, but is a bit faster than IE8 on my XP desktop (which has a
much faster quad core CPU than my laptops dual
core).


Firefox has one big advantage. It has a *selectable* default folder
for internet downloaded images.


So does IE9 and IE8. Not that hard to do; don't know how easy it is for
Firefox.


Easier than for IE9. Since IE9 is pretty easy, you can tell that it
isn't hard for FF.

Without even looking at Help, it took me 30 seconds, because at first I
looked in the wrong place :-)

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  #21  
Old November 30th 11, 12:30 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Nil[_2_]
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On 29 Nov 2011, arnold wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

I've used Thunderbird for years now. I gave up on Windows email
clients a long time ago. It's very easy to move anything to a
different computer w/ T-Bird. I move my entire email from desktop
to laptop for a trip and back again when I return. It take less
than two minutes.


Well, that's nice, but I don't think it has anything to do with the
OP's (non-)issue.
  #22  
Old November 30th 11, 12:56 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 14:41:54 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
wrote:

On 11/29/2011, Peter Jason posted:
Firefox has one big advantage. It has a *selectable* default folder
for internet downloaded images.


It took me about two minutes to find out, using Help, how to set the
default download folder in Internet Explorer.

I had to look it up because I don't usually use IE, but as I said, two
minutes to learn how...

BTW, I then followed the instructions. They work.


I'm reminded of the very astute observation you made yesterday about
people being unwilling to do their own research while simultaneously
appearing to be eager to use other people's time to respond to their
questions, some of which are elementary. If memory serves, that
observation was at least somewhat directed toward Peter Jason, and now
here he is again. :-)

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  #23  
Old November 30th 11, 12:57 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
arnold
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On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 18:30:17 -0500, Nil wrote:

On 29 Nov 2011, arnold wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

I've used Thunderbird for years now. I gave up on Windows email clients
a long time ago. It's very easy to move anything to a different
computer w/ T-Bird. I move my entire email from desktop to laptop for a
trip and back again when I return. It take less than two minutes.


Well, that's nice, but I don't think it has anything to do with the OP's
(non-)issue.


Never let it be said I know what's going on. :-)
  #24  
Old November 30th 11, 01:16 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Gene E. Bloch[_5_]
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On 11/29/2011, Char Jackson posted:
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 14:41:54 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
wrote:


On 11/29/2011, Peter Jason posted:
Firefox has one big advantage. It has a *selectable* default folder
for internet downloaded images.


It took me about two minutes to find out, using Help, how to set the
default download folder in Internet Explorer.

I had to look it up because I don't usually use IE, but as I said, two
minutes to learn how...

BTW, I then followed the instructions. They work.


I'm reminded of the very astute observation you made yesterday about
people being unwilling to do their own research while simultaneously
appearing to be eager to use other people's time to respond to their
questions, some of which are elementary. If memory serves, that
observation was at least somewhat directed toward Peter Jason, and now
here he is again. :-)


Yes, it was PJ...

Notice that I didn't give the answer, only the method to find it :-)

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  #25  
Old November 30th 11, 01:23 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Ignore it, it'll go away.

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Old November 30th 11, 01:34 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 14:41:54 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
wrote:

On 11/29/2011, Peter Jason posted:
Firefox has one big advantage. It has a *selectable* default folder
for internet downloaded images.


It took me about two minutes to find out, using Help, how to set the
default download folder in Internet Explorer.

I had to look it up because I don't usually use IE, but as I said, two
minutes to learn how...

BTW, I then followed the instructions. They work.


I'm still confused.

The help file gives:

***
Where are downloaded files saved?

When you download files, Windows usually saves them in the Downloads
folder, which is located under your user name in the Users folder on
the drive where Windows is installed (for example C:\users\your
name\downloads). When you are saving the file, you can choose to save
it to a different folder. Some different types of files are saved to
different folders by default. For example, if you right-click a
picture on a webpage and then choose Save Picture As from the menu,
the picture will be saved to the Pictures folder by default. If you're
not sure where the file was saved, you can search for it from the
Start menu.

******

This means I can sent the image anywhere I want, but I can't make the
change permanent. I have to remember every time.

Peter.



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Old November 30th 11, 02:46 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"XS11E" wrote in message ...

Ignore it, it'll go away.

"It" already did. The rest of us are just having fun :-)
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  #28  
Old November 30th 11, 02:50 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
SC Tom[_3_]
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"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message ...
On 11/29/2011, SC Tom posted:
"Peter Jason" wrote in message ...
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 14:02:32 -0500, "SC Tom" wrote:


"Mortimer" wrote in message o.uk...
"SC Tom" wrote in message ...

"Microsoft Rippoff" wrote in message ...

Windows 7 is the new Windows ME.

IE9 sucks really bad too.

Windows 7 64-bit sucks even worse.

Don't buy it. Insist on XP or Mac!

Hope this helps.

--

http://tinyurl.com/66skkxb



Windows 7 works great for me, and so does IE9. And I had no trouble with ME, either. In fact, I rolled my XP
installation back twice before finally sticking with XP.

Never used 64-bit anything; never found a use for it. Others have; good on them!

Haven't used a Mac OS since IIse; haven't felt the need to since Windows has always provided for me.

If you are having particular problems, post them here and maybe someone will look past your ranting and decide to
help :-)

In most respects, Windows 7 works perfectly for me.

The only downsides a

- no 64-bit driver is available for my Epson 1200 scanner so I need to keep an XP machine for this

Actually, that's Epson's fault, not Microsoft's.

- the file-search capabilities of Vista and 7 are CRAP compared with those on XP: they don't consistently find
files
with names that contain desired text

Agreed. That's why I use Agent Ransack.

- the Explorer shell has a habit of deciding for me how to display a list of files (whether as a one-line-per-file
list of filenames, as icons and with various different columns depending on what sort of files it finds; I want
the
standard filename, last modified date, file size headings for *all* folders)

Not a big deal for me. I kinda like my music folders sorted by track number, picture folders showing large icons,
etc.
But that's just me; others have their own likes and dislikes, and that's fine.

- Windows Live Mail has a crap user-interface compared with Outlook Express and Windows Mail

Not a part of Windows 7. It came with no native mail program.


I can live with these, mostly.

Me, too, mostly :-)


I use Firefox rather than IE, so I can't comment on IE9.

I didn't care for Firefox (been quite some time since I tried it, to be honest), so I came back to IE8, then
updated/upgraded to IE9. I didn't like it so much at first, but after a little customization, it's almost the same
as
IE8 visually, but is a bit faster than IE8 on my XP desktop (which has a much faster quad core CPU than my laptops
dual
core).

Firefox has one big advantage. It has a *selectable* default folder
for internet downloaded images.


So does IE9 and IE8. Not that hard to do; don't know how easy it is for Firefox.


Easier than for IE9. Since IE9 is pretty easy, you can tell that it isn't hard for FF.

Without even looking at Help, it took me 30 seconds, because at first I looked in the wrong place :-)

Like I said, I haven't used FF in forever, and didn't have installed long enough to search for things like that. IE9, I
looked up how to do it after my first download. IE8 wasn't quite as simple, but still wasn't hard to do (as I'm sure you
know :-) ).
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  #29  
Old November 30th 11, 03:11 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 29/11/2011 17:42, Mortimer wrote:

- no 64-bit driver is available for my Epson 1200 scanner so I need to
keep an XP machine for this


I dual booted Ubuntu to run my Canon scanner but eventually bit the
bullet and bought an 'all in one' (Kodak ESP C110. Mainly as the ink
was, relatively, cheap)

I use Firefox rather than IE, so I can't comment on IE9.

+1

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Old November 30th 11, 04:34 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 11/29/2011 9:11 PM, soup wrote:
On 29/11/2011 17:42, Mortimer wrote:

- no 64-bit driver is available for my Epson 1200 scanner so I need to
keep an XP machine for this


I dual booted Ubuntu to run my Canon scanner but eventually bit the
bullet and bought an 'all in one' (Kodak ESP C110. Mainly as the ink
was, relatively, cheap)

I use Firefox rather than IE, so I can't comment on IE9.

+1

Maybe one of these will help:
http://www.filecx.com/search/epson_1200/ukw/1

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