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Does anyone have the solution to stopping FileZilla from phoninghome?
On 4/14/2018 9:32 PM, Paul wrote:
Neil wrote: On 4/14/2018 11:21 AM, Mayayana wrote: "Neil" wrote | OTOH, ignoring maintenance updates | could cause problems. | Â*Â*Â* My copy seems to be dated 2013. I don't have any problems. I do see problems, however, with the assumption that newer is better. After all, that's how you got stuck with Win10. Apparently, you don't read the fixes included in the FZ updates. After all, that's why you think XP is a good OS. The extent to which you should be "fixated" on patches, depends on the development model. As well a the risk involved in the use of the app. I don't care so much about patches to apps that primarily involve off-line uses. However, FZ is ONLY used for on-line connections to servers and file transfers, and as such is a prime target for hacking exploits. The fixes that I read address this (and occasional expanded capability, which is less important to me). You can ignore that risk if you wish, and I'll continue to accept the updates. -- best regards, Neil |
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Does anyone have the solution to stopping FileZilla from phoning home?
"Neil" wrote
| However, FZ | is ONLY used for on-line connections to servers and file transfers, and | as such is a prime target for hacking exploits. The fixes that I read | address this And...? Two people keep saying that FZ users are in grave danger if not constantly updating. You and Jonathan. You say you know the specific issues/patches. So what are they? Is there something specific that we should know about? If so, which version is the fix in? Maybe some kind of FTP man-in-the-middle attack? I can't think of what else it might be. I'm certainly grateful to hear about serious bugs with patches, but so far I've only heard vague warnings and scolding, along with your position that people should always be in a general habit of auto-updating. |
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Does anyone have the solution to stopping FileZilla from phoning home?
Am Sun, 15 Apr 2018 12:25:20 -0400, schrieb Mayayana:
I'm certainly grateful to hear about serious bugs with patches, but so far I've only heard vague warnings and scolding, along with your position that people should always be in a general habit of auto-updating. Since my use model is exclusively on my LAN, I'm less worried about what Jonathan and Neil seem to be more worried about, but where I agree even so with Mayana's point, which was the same as my point. There are two kinds of we old men. a. Those who update because of an effuse "promise" of some sort of safety, b. Those who update when there is an actual known benefit of safety. In my case, I update if and when I want to, and even then, only if there is a compelling reason that is an actual known fact. I have nothing against those who update on faith, as long as they don't spout bull about the update being safe, if they can't name an actual threat that is being protected against that is has a statistically valid probability of occurring. |
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Does anyone have the solution to stopping FileZilla from phoning home?
Am Sun, 15 Apr 2018 12:16:50 -0400, schrieb Neil:
As well a the risk involved in the use of the app. I don't care so much about patches to apps that primarily involve off-line uses. However, FZ is ONLY used for on-line connections to servers and file transfers, and as such is a prime target for hacking exploits. The fixes that I read address this (and occasional expanded capability, which is less important to me). You can ignore that risk if you wish, and I'll continue to accept the updates. Neil brings up a good point about FileZilla being *sometimes* used for on-line activities, but, as it turns out, at least for me, FileZilla serves absolutely zero on-line purposes for me. I don't know of a single FTP site that I have login credentials for. What I use FileZilla for, exclusively, is to access the entire available file system of my mobile phones. So while FileZilla certainly *can* be used for online purposes, my use model is 100% offine (on my own LAN) to access all the mobile devices on my LAN (all of which run FTP servers). So this sentence needs to be fixed a bit for accuracy: "FZ is ONLY used for on-line connections to servers and file transfers, and as such is a prime target for hacking exploits." To something more accurate, such as: "FileZilla "can" be used for on-line connections, but it can also be used for local LAN connections" |
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Does anyone have the solution to stopping FileZilla from phoning home?
Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
[...] Using "vi" to search for a case-insensitive xml, I only find: :set ignorecase /xml next == I wish Windows 10 had an "easy" grep! Hi, I don't know what exactly you mean with 'an "easy" grep', but if you wish that Windows had grep(1) (etc.), you may want to have a look at Cygwin. Cygwin is a Linux-like environment for/on (MS) Windows. Highly recommended (see my 'User-Agent:' header). It makes us UNIX folks [1] feel quite at home. Who says you can't run good software on a bad OS!? :-) http://cygwin.com FWIW, I use grep(1) quite a lot in situations similar to the one you're describing. grep(1), don't leave home without it! FWIW2, my newsreader - tin(1) - is a Cygwin package, running on Windows. And of course this is typed into vim(1). HTH. [1] Just kidding. I'm not an insert_any_OS advocate. |
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Does anyone have the solution to stopping FileZilla from phoninghome?
On 4/15/2018 1:54 PM, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
Am Sun, 15 Apr 2018 12:16:50 -0400, schrieb Neil: As well a the risk involved in the use of the app. I don't care so much about patches to apps that primarily involve off-line uses. However, FZ is ONLY used for on-line connections to servers and file transfers, and as such is a prime target for hacking exploits. The fixes that I read address this (and occasional expanded capability, which is less important to me). You can ignore that risk if you wish, and I'll continue to accept the updates. Neil brings up a good point about FileZilla being *sometimes* used for on-line activities, but, as it turns out, at least for me, FileZilla serves absolutely zero on-line purposes for me. I don't know of a single FTP site that I have login credentials for. I didn't consider that some people would use it for in-house functions, as you are doing, so...I would modify my sentence to read: "If FZ is used for on-line connections to servers for file transfers and as such it is a prime target for hacking exploits and should be kept up-to-date." -- best regards, Neil |
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Does anyone have the solution to stopping FileZilla from phoning home?
Am Sun, 15 Apr 2018 18:44:59 -0400, schrieb Neil:
I didn't consider that some people would use it for in-house functions, as you are doing, so...I would modify my sentence to read: "If FZ is used for on-line connections to servers for file transfers and as such it is a prime target for hacking exploits and should be kept up-to-date." You point is valid Neil, that people might very well be using FileZilla to connect to Internet FTP servers. I'm not - but others might. I use FTP to connect mobile devices on the LAN so that I don't have to use USB cables. |
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Does anyone have the solution to stopping FileZilla from phoninghome?
Frank Slootweg wrote:
Ragnusen Ultred wrote: [...] Using "vi" to search for a case-insensitive xml, I only find: :set ignorecase /xml next == I wish Windows 10 had an "easy" grep! Hi, I don't know what exactly you mean with 'an "easy" grep', but if you wish that Windows had grep(1) (etc.), you may want to have a look at Cygwin. Windows has the Bash shell, which has "grep" in it. You may need to insulate if some path has a space character in it. bash grep "hello there" /mnt/c/users/username/Downloads/some.txt grep "hello there" "/mnt/c/users/user name/Downloads/some.txt" Windows also has its own native fake grep called findstr. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...mmands/findstr findstr /c:"hello there" some.txt You no longer need gnuwin32 or Cygwin to find a string. Paul |
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Does anyone have the solution to stopping FileZilla from phoning home?
Am Sun, 15 Apr 2018 23:03:05 -0400, schrieb Paul:
Windows has the Bash shell, which has "grep" in it. You may need to insulate if some path has a space character in it. bash grep "hello there" /mnt/c/users/username/Downloads/some.txt grep "hello there" "/mnt/c/users/user name/Downloads/some.txt" Almost certainly needs s'more setup... C:\ bash "'bash' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file." Windows also has its own native fake grep called findstr. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...mmands/findstr findstr /c:"hello there" some.txt You no longer need gnuwin32 or Cygwin to find a string. As a user... C:\ dir c:\* /s/a/l/on/b c:\tmp\20180415salonb.txt C:\ findstr filezilla.xml c:\tmp\20180415salonb.txt Huh? That found nothing. C:\ findstr filezilla c:\tmp\20180415salonb.txt That found stuff. C:\ findstr filezilla c:\tmp\20180415salonb.txt c:\tmp\file2.txt C:\ findstr xml c:\tmp\file2.txt Hmmmm.mmm... it finds stuff, but not "filezilla.xml". I just looked, "appdata" isn't in the "dir" results. But otherwise, this would work. C:\ dir /s/a/l/on/b c:\*.* | findstr filezilla | findstr xml |
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Does anyone have the solution to stopping FileZilla from phoninghome?
On 4/15/2018 9:38 PM, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
Am Sun, 15 Apr 2018 18:44:59 -0400, schrieb Neil: I didn't consider that some people would use it for in-house functions, as you are doing, so...I would modify my sentence to read: "If FZ is used for on-line connections to servers for file transfers and as such it is a prime target for hacking exploits and should be kept up-to-date." You point is valid Neil, that people might very well be using FileZilla to connect to Internet FTP servers. As I wrote, that is the ONLY thing I use FZ for, and it's a typical use of that product. -- best regards, Neil |
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