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New laptop w/windows 8
I just bought a new laptop with W 8 and have a few questions. How do I get
rid of having to constantly put in a password to use it? It's frigging annoying as hell. The other question is how do I hack in WindowsMail like I did in W 7? WindowsMail works great in W 7 so I moved the folder to W 8 but it wont open. How can I get it to open? Please don't suggest other mail programs as I've tried most of the years and can't stand them. Thanks. |
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New laptop w/windows 8
R.H. Breener wrote on 2/21/2015 11:05 PM:
I just bought a new laptop with W 8 and have a few questions. How do I get rid of having to constantly put in a password to use it? It's frigging annoying as hell. The other question is how do I hack in WindowsMail like I did in W 7? WindowsMail works great in W 7 so I moved the folder to W 8 but it wont open. How can I get it to open? Please don't suggest other mail programs as I've tried most of the years and can't stand them. Thanks. run netplwiz Command prompt or run command etc. Whatever way you can. There is a check box on the first screen. Toggle it. Click okay. It will ask for the password. enter it twice. |
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"Big_Al" wrote in message ... R.H. Breener wrote on 2/21/2015 11:05 PM: I just bought a new laptop with W 8 and have a few questions. How do I get rid of having to constantly put in a password to use it? It's frigging annoying as hell. The other question is how do I hack in WindowsMail like I did in W 7? WindowsMail works great in W 7 so I moved the folder to W 8 but it wont open. How can I get it to open? Please don't suggest other mail programs as I've tried most of the years and can't stand them. Thanks. run netplwiz Command prompt or run command etc. Whatever way you can. There is a check box on the first screen. Toggle it. Click okay. It will ask for the password. enter it twice. What does Toggle it mean? |
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"Big_Al" wrote in message ... R.H. Breener wrote on 2/21/2015 11:05 PM: I just bought a new laptop with W 8 and have a few questions. How do I get rid of having to constantly put in a password to use it? It's frigging annoying as hell. The other question is how do I hack in WindowsMail like I did in W 7? WindowsMail works great in W 7 so I moved the folder to W 8 but it wont open. How can I get it to open? Please don't suggest other mail programs as I've tried most of the years and can't stand them. Thanks. run netplwiz Command prompt or run command etc. Whatever way you can. There is a check box on the first screen. Toggle it. Click okay. It will ask for the password. enter it twice. OK got it. Wasn't familiar with the toggle word. Thanks. |
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R.H. Breener wrote:
I just bought a new laptop with W 8 and have a few questions. How do I get rid of having to constantly put in a password to use it? It's frigging annoying as hell. The other question is how do I hack in WindowsMail like I did in W 7? WindowsMail works great in W 7 so I moved the folder to W 8 but it wont open. How can I get it to open? Please don't suggest other mail programs as I've tried most of the years and can't stand them. Thanks. You can use your search engine, like this "windows mail" site:sevenforums.com "windows mail" site:eightforums.com and get a solution for each OS. The second article mentions a DLL that has to be moved and registered so the OS knows it is there. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...dows-mail.html http://www.eightforums.com/browsers-...ndows-8-a.html On the first article, there is a download, but you can just as easily open the ZIP with 7-ZIP, take note of what files they're using, and copy over your Vista ones. In the first article, there is a .reg file. It may look like loads of "hex", but in fact those are text strings. The text strings use wide 16 bit characters. For English participants, the second byte of a pair is usually 0x00. The net result is, it looks like hex, when on a previous OS without wide character support, you'd be looking at an easy to read %path% type thing. So don't be freaked out by the hex look of the .reg file. It can be translated to something readable, with a moderate amount of effort. The contents aren't totally mysterious. (There are some things that are pure hex in Windows, but these aren't examples of that.) It's the inability of Microsoft to create a decent representation, that makes us go through this hell (of translation). At some point in the past, one of these USENET groups has had a posting on installing WM, but since there is no archive on Google, it's pretty hard to search what has already been posted here, when you need an answer. New groups added to alt.*, are not automatically added at Google headquarters. Have fun, Paul |
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"Paul" wrote in message ... R.H. Breener wrote: I just bought a new laptop with W 8 and have a few questions. How do I get rid of having to constantly put in a password to use it? It's frigging annoying as hell. The other question is how do I hack in WindowsMail like I did in W 7? WindowsMail works great in W 7 so I moved the folder to W 8 but it wont open. How can I get it to open? Please don't suggest other mail programs as I've tried most of the years and can't stand them. Thanks. You can use your search engine, like this "windows mail" site:sevenforums.com "windows mail" site:eightforums.com and get a solution for each OS. The second article mentions a DLL that has to be moved and registered so the OS knows it is there. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...dows-mail.html http://www.eightforums.com/browsers-...ndows-8-a.html On the first article, there is a download, but you can just as easily open the ZIP with 7-ZIP, take note of what files they're using, and copy over your Vista ones. In the first article, there is a .reg file. It may look like loads of "hex", but in fact those are text strings. The text strings use wide 16 bit characters. For English participants, the second byte of a pair is usually 0x00. The net result is, it looks like hex, when on a previous OS without wide character support, you'd be looking at an easy to read %path% type thing. So don't be freaked out by the hex look of the .reg file. It can be translated to something readable, with a moderate amount of effort. The contents aren't totally mysterious. (There are some things that are pure hex in Windows, but these aren't examples of that.) It's the inability of Microsoft to create a decent representation, that makes us go through this hell (of translation). At some point in the past, one of these USENET groups has had a posting on installing WM, but since there is no archive on Google, it's pretty hard to search what has already been posted here, when you need an answer. New groups added to alt.*, are not automatically added at Google headquarters. Have fun, Paul Thanks Paul. There seems to be several ways to do it and I'll look into all. The biggest problem is deleting the WindowsMail from W 8 that it came with. It wont let me delete the copy it came with. Is there a way to get past that Trusted Installer BS? I have Unlocker but it wont work on W 8 64 bit. Any suggestions to get around this problem? |
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New laptop w/windows 8
"Paul" wrote in message ... R.H. Breener wrote: I just bought a new laptop with W 8 and have a few questions. How do I get rid of having to constantly put in a password to use it? It's frigging annoying as hell. The other question is how do I hack in WindowsMail like I did in W 7? WindowsMail works great in W 7 so I moved the folder to W 8 but it wont open. How can I get it to open? Please don't suggest other mail programs as I've tried most of the years and can't stand them. Thanks. You can use your search engine, like this "windows mail" site:sevenforums.com "windows mail" site:eightforums.com and get a solution for each OS. The second article mentions a DLL that has to be moved and registered so the OS knows it is there. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...dows-mail.html http://www.eightforums.com/browsers-...ndows-8-a.html On the first article, there is a download, but you can just as easily open the ZIP with 7-ZIP, take note of what files they're using, and copy over your Vista ones. In the first article, there is a .reg file. It may look like loads of "hex", but in fact those are text strings. The text strings use wide 16 bit characters. For English participants, the second byte of a pair is usually 0x00. The net result is, it looks like hex, when on a previous OS without wide character support, you'd be looking at an easy to read %path% type thing. So don't be freaked out by the hex look of the .reg file. It can be translated to something readable, with a moderate amount of effort. The contents aren't totally mysterious. (There are some things that are pure hex in Windows, but these aren't examples of that.) It's the inability of Microsoft to create a decent representation, that makes us go through this hell (of translation). At some point in the past, one of these USENET groups has had a posting on installing WM, but since there is no archive on Google, it's pretty hard to search what has already been posted here, when you need an answer. New groups added to alt.*, are not automatically added at Google headquarters. Have fun, Paul The information I found on those sites doesn't seem to match my version of W 8. I can't get Permission or past Trusted Installer to delete the Mail folder that came on W 8. Some of the steps can't be done because the choices aren't under properties in the WindowsMail folder. Perhaps that information is old? I can't find anything Googling to explain how to do this on my laptop with what I see. |
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R.H. Breener wrote:
"Paul" wrote in message ... R.H. Breener wrote: I just bought a new laptop with W 8 and have a few questions. How do I get rid of having to constantly put in a password to use it? It's frigging annoying as hell. The other question is how do I hack in WindowsMail like I did in W 7? WindowsMail works great in W 7 so I moved the folder to W 8 but it wont open. How can I get it to open? Please don't suggest other mail programs as I've tried most of the years and can't stand them. Thanks. You can use your search engine, like this "windows mail" site:sevenforums.com "windows mail" site:eightforums.com and get a solution for each OS. The second article mentions a DLL that has to be moved and registered so the OS knows it is there. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...dows-mail.html http://www.eightforums.com/browsers-...ndows-8-a.html On the first article, there is a download, but you can just as easily open the ZIP with 7-ZIP, take note of what files they're using, and copy over your Vista ones. In the first article, there is a .reg file. It may look like loads of "hex", but in fact those are text strings. The text strings use wide 16 bit characters. For English participants, the second byte of a pair is usually 0x00. The net result is, it looks like hex, when on a previous OS without wide character support, you'd be looking at an easy to read %path% type thing. So don't be freaked out by the hex look of the .reg file. It can be translated to something readable, with a moderate amount of effort. The contents aren't totally mysterious. (There are some things that are pure hex in Windows, but these aren't examples of that.) It's the inability of Microsoft to create a decent representation, that makes us go through this hell (of translation). At some point in the past, one of these USENET groups has had a posting on installing WM, but since there is no archive on Google, it's pretty hard to search what has already been posted here, when you need an answer. New groups added to alt.*, are not automatically added at Google headquarters. Have fun, Paul Thanks Paul. There seems to be several ways to do it and I'll look into all. The biggest problem is deleting the WindowsMail from W 8 that it came with. It wont let me delete the copy it came with. Is there a way to get past that Trusted Installer BS? I have Unlocker but it wont work on W 8 64 bit. Any suggestions to get around this problem? I don't understand. I thought WLM was a purely independent program (registered in Programs and Features) since if Microsoft bundles it, they tend to get in trouble in Europe. It could be, on the laptop, that the manufacturer put that there. But even so, it should have a remover. Note that some software in Windows, is "removed" using the "Features" controls. That's a subsection of "Programs and Features" control panel. For example, Hyper-V as a Win8 feature hides in there. Only, they don't tell you when you don't have the correct hardware support for that one. Mine failed silently when I tested it a year ago. I would not expect WLM to be in Features, so don't get your hopes up. When a program is not properly registered with Programs and Features, sometimes if you look in the Program Files (x86) or equivalent folder, you'll see "uninst.exe", that sort of thing. That is an example of a program linked to Programs and Features, for removal purposes. But you can try clicking that manually, and see what happens. I don't use WLM here, so have *no* example installs :-) I can't help you. Really. ******* As a "suite" of tools, it might be hiding under another name. When you use this one in Programs and Features, it then has a sub-menu for removals. "Programs and features" then "Windows Live Essentials 2011" --- WLM hides in here http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...mail-uninstall Paul |
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"Paul" wrote in message ... R.H. Breener wrote: "Paul" wrote in message ... R.H. Breener wrote: I just bought a new laptop with W 8 and have a few questions. How do I get rid of having to constantly put in a password to use it? It's frigging annoying as hell. The other question is how do I hack in WindowsMail like I did in W 7? WindowsMail works great in W 7 so I moved the folder to W 8 but it wont open. How can I get it to open? Please don't suggest other mail programs as I've tried most of the years and can't stand them. Thanks. You can use your search engine, like this "windows mail" site:sevenforums.com "windows mail" site:eightforums.com and get a solution for each OS. The second article mentions a DLL that has to be moved and registered so the OS knows it is there. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...dows-mail.html http://www.eightforums.com/browsers-...ndows-8-a.html On the first article, there is a download, but you can just as easily open the ZIP with 7-ZIP, take note of what files they're using, and copy over your Vista ones. In the first article, there is a .reg file. It may look like loads of "hex", but in fact those are text strings. The text strings use wide 16 bit characters. For English participants, the second byte of a pair is usually 0x00. The net result is, it looks like hex, when on a previous OS without wide character support, you'd be looking at an easy to read %path% type thing. So don't be freaked out by the hex look of the .reg file. It can be translated to something readable, with a moderate amount of effort. The contents aren't totally mysterious. (There are some things that are pure hex in Windows, but these aren't examples of that.) It's the inability of Microsoft to create a decent representation, that makes us go through this hell (of translation). At some point in the past, one of these USENET groups has had a posting on installing WM, but since there is no archive on Google, it's pretty hard to search what has already been posted here, when you need an answer. New groups added to alt.*, are not automatically added at Google headquarters. Have fun, Paul Thanks Paul. There seems to be several ways to do it and I'll look into all. The biggest problem is deleting the WindowsMail from W 8 that it came with. It wont let me delete the copy it came with. Is there a way to get past that Trusted Installer BS? I have Unlocker but it wont work on W 8 64 bit. Any suggestions to get around this problem? I don't understand. I thought WLM was a purely independent program (registered in Programs and Features) since if Microsoft bundles it, they tend to get in trouble in Europe. It could be, on the laptop, that the manufacturer put that there. But even so, it should have a remover. I managed to make some changes in Properties/Security and deleted the one there as per the sites. But when I try to open WM I get the error that MSOE.dll can't be loaded. I've Googles myself into a tension headache and still can't find how to get past that problem. A lot of info online is old. Out of date. Note that some software in Windows, is "removed" using the "Features" controls. That's a subsection of "Programs and Features" control panel. For example, Hyper-V as a Win8 feature hides in there. Only, they don't tell you when you don't have the correct hardware support for that one. Mine failed silently when I tested it a year ago. I would not expect WLM to be in Features, so don't get your hopes up. When a program is not properly registered with Programs and Features, sometimes if you look in the Program Files (x86) or equivalent folder, you'll see "uninst.exe", that sort of thing. That is an example of a program linked to Programs and Features, for removal purposes. But you can try clicking that manually, and see what happens. I don't use WLM here, so have *no* example installs :-) I can't help you. Really. Odd there are so few people here to help others. These groups used to be very busy. ******* As a "suite" of tools, it might be hiding under another name. When you use this one in Programs and Features, it then has a sub-menu for removals. "Programs and features" then "Windows Live Essentials 2011" --- WLM hides in here The WindowsMail that comes with W 8 isn't there. It's gone now but the MSOE.dll problem persists. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...mail-uninstall Paul |
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R.H. Breener wrote:
"Paul" wrote in message ... R.H. Breener wrote: I just bought a new laptop with W 8 and have a few questions. How do I get rid of having to constantly put in a password to use it? It's frigging annoying as hell. The other question is how do I hack in WindowsMail like I did in W 7? WindowsMail works great in W 7 so I moved the folder to W 8 but it wont open. How can I get it to open? Please don't suggest other mail programs as I've tried most of the years and can't stand them. Thanks. You can use your search engine, like this "windows mail" site:sevenforums.com "windows mail" site:eightforums.com and get a solution for each OS. The second article mentions a DLL that has to be moved and registered so the OS knows it is there. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...dows-mail.html http://www.eightforums.com/browsers-...ndows-8-a.html On the first article, there is a download, but you can just as easily open the ZIP with 7-ZIP, take note of what files they're using, and copy over your Vista ones. In the first article, there is a .reg file. It may look like loads of "hex", but in fact those are text strings. The text strings use wide 16 bit characters. For English participants, the second byte of a pair is usually 0x00. The net result is, it looks like hex, when on a previous OS without wide character support, you'd be looking at an easy to read %path% type thing. So don't be freaked out by the hex look of the .reg file. It can be translated to something readable, with a moderate amount of effort. The contents aren't totally mysterious. (There are some things that are pure hex in Windows, but these aren't examples of that.) It's the inability of Microsoft to create a decent representation, that makes us go through this hell (of translation). At some point in the past, one of these USENET groups has had a posting on installing WM, but since there is no archive on Google, it's pretty hard to search what has already been posted here, when you need an answer. New groups added to alt.*, are not automatically added at Google headquarters. Have fun, Paul Thanks Paul. There seems to be several ways to do it and I'll look into all. The biggest problem is deleting the WindowsMail from W 8 that it came with. It wont let me delete the copy it came with. Is there a way to get past that Trusted Installer BS? I have Unlocker but it wont work on W 8 64 bit. Any suggestions to get around this problem? On Win8 the mail client is an app. Uninstall it via the Modern UI. - rt click the Mail app icon, scroll and select 'Uninstall' Note: doing so will also remove all other apps that are packaged with the Win8x mail client. -- ....winston msft mvp consumer apps |
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Paul wrote:
R.H. Breener wrote: "Paul" wrote in message ... R.H. Breener wrote: I just bought a new laptop with W 8 and have a few questions. How do I get rid of having to constantly put in a password to use it? It's frigging annoying as hell. The other question is how do I hack in WindowsMail like I did in W 7? WindowsMail works great in W 7 so I moved the folder to W 8 but it wont open. How can I get it to open? Please don't suggest other mail programs as I've tried most of the years and can't stand them. Thanks. You can use your search engine, like this "windows mail" site:sevenforums.com "windows mail" site:eightforums.com and get a solution for each OS. The second article mentions a DLL that has to be moved and registered so the OS knows it is there. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...dows-mail.html http://www.eightforums.com/browsers-...ndows-8-a.html On the first article, there is a download, but you can just as easily open the ZIP with 7-ZIP, take note of what files they're using, and copy over your Vista ones. In the first article, there is a .reg file. It may look like loads of "hex", but in fact those are text strings. The text strings use wide 16 bit characters. For English participants, the second byte of a pair is usually 0x00. The net result is, it looks like hex, when on a previous OS without wide character support, you'd be looking at an easy to read %path% type thing. So don't be freaked out by the hex look of the .reg file. It can be translated to something readable, with a moderate amount of effort. The contents aren't totally mysterious. (There are some things that are pure hex in Windows, but these aren't examples of that.) It's the inability of Microsoft to create a decent representation, that makes us go through this hell (of translation). At some point in the past, one of these USENET groups has had a posting on installing WM, but since there is no archive on Google, it's pretty hard to search what has already been posted here, when you need an answer. New groups added to alt.*, are not automatically added at Google headquarters. Have fun, Paul Thanks Paul. There seems to be several ways to do it and I'll look into all. The biggest problem is deleting the WindowsMail from W 8 that it came with. It wont let me delete the copy it came with. Is there a way to get past that Trusted Installer BS? I have Unlocker but it wont work on W 8 64 bit. Any suggestions to get around this problem? I don't understand. I thought WLM was a purely independent program (registered in Programs and Features) since if Microsoft bundles it, they tend to get in trouble in Europe. It could be, on the laptop, that the manufacturer put that there. But even so, it should have a remover. Note that some software in Windows, is "removed" using the "Features" controls. That's a subsection of "Programs and Features" control panel. For example, Hyper-V as a Win8 feature hides in there. Only, they don't tell you when you don't have the correct hardware support for that one. Mine failed silently when I tested it a year ago. I would not expect WLM to be in Features, so don't get your hopes up. When a program is not properly registered with Programs and Features, sometimes if you look in the Program Files (x86) or equivalent folder, you'll see "uninst.exe", that sort of thing. That is an example of a program linked to Programs and Features, for removal purposes. But you can try clicking that manually, and see what happens. I don't use WLM here, so have *no* example installs :-) I can't help you. Really. ******* As a "suite" of tools, it might be hiding under another name. When you use this one in Programs and Features, it then has a sub-menu for removals. "Programs and features" then "Windows Live Essentials 2011" --- WLM hides in here http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...mail-uninstall Paul The op is referring to removing the Windows 8x inlcuded mail app (called Windows Mail) The op wishes to copy (aka force) Vista's Windows Mail client on Win8 for use instead of Win8x included mail app. WLM is not relevant to his desired outcome. -- ....winston msft mvp consumer apps |
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On 22/02/2015 04:25, R.H. Breener wrote:
"Big_Al" wrote in message ... R.H. Breener wrote on 2/21/2015 11:05 PM: I just bought a new laptop with W 8 and have a few questions. How do I get rid of having to constantly put in a password to use it? It's frigging annoying as hell. The other question is how do I hack in WindowsMail like I did in W 7? WindowsMail works great in W 7 so I moved the folder to W 8 but it wont open. How can I get it to open? Please don't suggest other mail programs as I've tried most of the years and can't stand them. Thanks. run netplwiz Command prompt or run command etc. Whatever way you can. There is a check box on the first screen. Toggle it. Click okay. It will ask for the password. enter it twice. What does Toggle it mean? It's means put the laptop back in the box and take it back where you bought it from. Tell them you are too stupid to own a computer. |
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R.H. Breener wrote on 2/21/2015 11:25 PM:
"Big_Al" wrote in message ... R.H. Breener wrote on 2/21/2015 11:05 PM: I just bought a new laptop with W 8 and have a few questions. How do I get rid of having to constantly put in a password to use it? It's frigging annoying as hell. The other question is how do I hack in WindowsMail like I did in W 7? WindowsMail works great in W 7 so I moved the folder to W 8 but it wont open. How can I get it to open? Please don't suggest other mail programs as I've tried most of the years and can't stand them. Thanks. run netplwiz Command prompt or run command etc. Whatever way you can. There is a check box on the first screen. Toggle it. Click okay. It will ask for the password. enter it twice. What does Toggle it mean? Toggle, in the case of a check box or radio box, change the state it was in. If it's on turn it off, if it's off turn it on. To switch between one of two states. In your case the auto login is not turned on. I don't care or know if that is with or without the check box checked. In your case the feature is off, so changing the state of that checkbox will change the state of your autologin. If it's currently off, it will turn it on. SO TOGGLE IT to the other state it's currently in. |
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 12:05:59 -0500, Big_Al wrote:
What does Toggle it mean? Toggle, in the case of a check box or radio box, change the state it was in. If it's on turn it off, if it's off turn it on. To switch between one of two states. In your case the auto login is not turned on. I don't care or know if that is with or without the check box checked. In your case the feature is off, so changing the state of that checkbox will change the state of your autologin. If it's currently off, it will turn it on. SO TOGGLE IT to the other state it's currently in. I had an adventure with that word when the DirecTV installer came. He told me the channel and volume were toggles, so I tried to press them in so as to change their state (which didn't make sense, since both deal with a series of values!). It turned out he meant that you rock them up or down, not push them in. He thought I was pretty dumb even after I told him what toggle means to me (same as you wrote above). BTW, both switches are quite small and don't have long bat handles, so it's not obvious at a glance that they rock rather than press in. Not to mention that what I did at first actually had an effect, but it wasn't consistent - i.e., sometimes volume up, sometimes volume down, and of course the same for the channel button. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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Gene E. Bloch wrote on 2/23/2015 5:37 PM:
I had an adventure with that word when the DirecTV installer came. He told me the channel and volume were toggles, so I tried to press them in so as to change their state (which didn't make sense, since both deal with a series of values!). And he was wrong. Those are called, believe it or not, rocker switches!!! ;-) |
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